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 All right, welcome to Beta Show, Episode 4.

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 It's Christmastime here.

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 Jeff here with the Church.Digital and Stadia Church Planning,

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 and joining me today for the show is Reindeer de Armas.

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 Ho, ho, ho!

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 Man, listen, Halloween is past, it's done.

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 It's not even Turkey Day.

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 We don't know who the President of the United States is,

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 at least today when we're doing this broadcast,

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 but I can tell you right now

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 that break out your Spotify playlist,

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 bring out the Christmas movies,

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 put Die Hard on repeat over and over again,

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 and let's embrace this idea of a fidgetal Christmas

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 here on the Beta Show.

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 So once again, here with the Beta Show,

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 we answer your questions,

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 the questions that you guys have in ministry,

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 and so text us your questions,

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 484-324-8724.

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 We do this.

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 I feel so silly wearing this hat.

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 I don't think I can wear this hat the entire...

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 I'm going to try to wear it the entire show.

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 We'll see how we get.

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 But text us your questions on online ministry,

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 church online,

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 fidgetal church,

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 online discipleship,

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 whatever that is.

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 Send us those questions.

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 We'll answer them in future episodes

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 here of the Beta Show.

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 And for today,

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 in case you haven't noticed,

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 buy my ridiculous hat

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 or the T-shirt you can't see,

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 which is in fact Darth Vader

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 riding Santa's sleigh

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 with the at-at

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 being the reindeer chasing it,

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 heading into the moonscape

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 of the Death Star.

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 Yeah, I do own that T-shirt.

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 And I wore it for this.

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 And honestly,

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 I wear it regularly throughout the year,

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 not even during Christmas season.

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 It's just,

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 it's awesome.

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 So we really want to focus

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 on this idea of Christmas

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 and excited to drill into it.

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 You know,

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 even to just get into the holiday spirit,

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 you may be thinking to yourself,

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 it's beginning to look a lot

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 like Fidgetal Christmas.

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 You know,

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 you can hear that,

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 that Christmas song

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 just resonating out there.

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 I'll be home for Christmas,

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 assuming my Zoom account works.

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 You know,

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 this may be the Christmas for you,

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 kind of doing that social distancing thing,

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 even in the home.

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 You're probably sharing

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 that same Zoom account

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 with like four or five other people.

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 So it depends

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 on how that's working out for you,

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 right?

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 Definitely.

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 Hey,

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 one of my favorites

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 is Little Drummer Boy.

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 You remember that time

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 when Little Drummer Boy

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 presented that gift to Jesus

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 of high-speed internet,

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 giving him that extra boost

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 to allow for it.

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 Still waiting on that gift.

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 Oh my gosh.

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 That's the gift

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 that keeps giving it,

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 even into 2021.

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 Naming and claiming 5G

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 in the name of Jesus.

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 Let's go.

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 I'm dreaming

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 of a Fidgetal Christmas.

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 I mean,

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 there's so much

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 we can really get into.

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 But honestly,

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 I just,

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 I want all spotlights here

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 on my friend Ray

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 as he presents

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 It's the most stressful

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 time of the year.

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 Ray,

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 are you ready for this?

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 Folks,

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 sing along

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 if you know it at home.

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 Here we go.

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 It's the most stressful

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 time of the year.

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 What with COVID

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 still growing,

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 the elections now slowing

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 and doom seems so near.

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 It's the most stressful

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 time of the year.

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 Man,

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 we are really missing out.

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 We should be like

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 marketing that publicly.

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 Like,

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 get Tyler Sansom.

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 Let's do a cover of that

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 and put it on YouTube

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 and like start bankrolling

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 or something.

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 We're not utilizing

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 all of that.

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 Tyler will get a million

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 streams on Spotify.

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 No problem.

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 Me,

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 five streams.

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 So he's got it.

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 Oh,

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 so cool.

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 Well,

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 hey,

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 for us here,

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 we really wanted to dig

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 into what Christmas

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 looks like.

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 Obviously,

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 Christmas is going

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 to look different

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 here in 2020.

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 You know,

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 Easter was a struggle.

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 Easter was a lesson

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 for all of us

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 as we wrestled

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 with this idea

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 of how to do

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 Easter digital only.

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 And so really,

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 it was like the apex.

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 It was the peak

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 of Church Online

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 where so many people

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 came and viewed

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 an online service.

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 Now,

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 here in December 2020,

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 it's starting

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 to look a little different.

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 It's not like

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 it's all online.

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 Some of you

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 may be thinking physical.

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 Some of you

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 may be thinking digital.

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 Some of you

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 may be thinking

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 digital.

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 Some of you,

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 okay,

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 maybe not those of you

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 who are up north.

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 Some of you

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 may be thinking

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 outdoor venue again.

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 I know that was

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 kind of the go-to

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 during Easter

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 as a fallback

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 for physical

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 was that outdoor venue.

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 Some of your venues

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 you can use

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 at full capacity.

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 Some you can't.

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 And so,

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 it's really

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 a mixed bag

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 kind of heading

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 into 2020,

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 into this

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 Christmas Eve

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 service season.

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 Ray,

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 any thoughts on this

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 just kind of

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 right at the get-off?

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 Yeah,

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 with so many

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 different options

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 and,

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 you know,

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 we talk about

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 this a lot

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 on our shows.

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 You've got to

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 think through

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 strategy.

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 You've got to

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 think through

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 what's your

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 ultimate goal

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 and then

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 allow the

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 strategy to

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 meet that goal,

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 right?

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 Don't try to

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 force back

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 into physical

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 just because

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 you have the

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 capability of

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 reopening.

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 I know some

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 churches have

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 already done

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 and you're

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 hoping and

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 praying that

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 we can go

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 to some

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 semblance

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 of last

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 December.

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 But as

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 we're all

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 already

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 identifying,

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 for those

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 of you

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 who've

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 opened,

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 you already

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 recognize us

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 and see

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 this.

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 It's not

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 going to be

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 2019.

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 And so,

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 we have to

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 prepare and

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 think through

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 how to

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 meet 2020

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 problems with

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 2020 solutions.

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 Totally and

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 completely.

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 And recognize

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 what your

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 venues are

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 capable of

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 space-wise and

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 what they're not

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 going to be

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 capable of.

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 having a

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 more distributed

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 approach,

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 either multiple

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 days,

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 multiple services,

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 online and

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 micro and

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 watch parties.

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 And we're

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 going to get

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 into all these

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 different options

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 here in a

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 little bit.

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 But it

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 obviously is not

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 going to be a

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 carbon copy of

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 what 2019 is.

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 And we need to

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 be comfortable

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 with it even

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 up front that

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 just like the

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 rest of 2020

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 has been a

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 messy year.

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 I mean,

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 look,

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 I'm wearing a

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 freaking hat

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 with antlers.

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 2020 has been

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 messy and it's

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 going to continue

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 to get messy

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 even heading into

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 21.

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 Even questions

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 like,

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 and I know

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 we're all

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 asking these

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 questions,

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 right?

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 Do we do a

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 live broadcast

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 of Christmas

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 Eve?

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 Do we do a

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 pre-recorded

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 of Christmas

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 Eve?

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 And honestly,

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 like just for

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 me,

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 my knee-jerk

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 would be go

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 with what

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 you're comfortable

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 with.

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 If you've

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 never done

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 a live

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 broadcast,

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 let's not

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 use Christmas

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 Eve as the

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 opportunity to

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 do something

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 new.

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 If all you

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 do is live

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 broadcast,

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 then you're

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 not comfortable

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 necessarily with

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 the workflow

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 of doing the

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 pre-recorded

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 service.

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 So maybe

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 evaluate if it's

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 really worth it.

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 I think the

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 big win of a

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 Christmas like

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 this is to

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 create an

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 experience where

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 you are able to

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 preach to people

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 specifically in the

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 room if they're in

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 the room.

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 And if you're

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 doing it online,

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 you're creating

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 an experience where

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 you're able to

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 preach to people

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 specifically online.

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 There are

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 opportunities where

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 you can look

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 straight into that

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 camera when you're

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 doing the

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 broadcast.

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 But when you're

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 preaching to the

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 room, now you're

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 looking in different

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 directions connecting

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 with people in that

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 way.

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 I see wins like

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 that in this

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 holiday season and

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 how best you can

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 set up that

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 engagement where

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 you're creating the

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 video content that

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 speaks, literally

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 speaks, to the

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 people in the room

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 versus speaking to

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 the people online.

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 That's right.

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 And it's so

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 important to remember

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 that if you've

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 determined this

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 strategy, that you

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 continue to

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 communicate it

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 clearly.

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 So don't do

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 live broadcasts for

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 the sake of, hey,

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 we're going to have

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 this up Christmas

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 Eve night at

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 7 o'clock.

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 You'll be able to

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 do it alongside

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 with folks or

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 whatever else.

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 Don't be so

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 consumed by that.

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 Last year, what

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 we did is we

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 took, here at

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 Christ Fellowship,

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 we took our

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 service that was

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 recorded at

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 7 o'clock and

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 we had a team of

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 editors that we

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 contracted out to

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 make sure that we

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 could get it up

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 online by 9 o'clock.

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 We just capped it

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 beginning and end and

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 we made sure that

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 the in-between was

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 set up in such a

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 format so that it

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 wouldn't look weird

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 and require a

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 whole lot of

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 editing online.

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 The big thing for

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 us has always been

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 the quality of mix,

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 especially since so

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 many of you are

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 consumed with putting

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 in music experiences

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 that don't always

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 play so well online,

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 right, Jeff?

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 We've talked about

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 that in terms of

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 worship online.

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 Christmas plays off

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 a little bit

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 differently because

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 families just like to

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 get together and

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 sing Christmas songs

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 and so that can

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 work a little bit

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 more in an online

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 experience, but a

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 poorly mixed online

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 experience is a rough

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 one either way,

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 whether it's

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 Christmas, Christmas

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 Eve or not.

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 Definitely.

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 And so wrestle with

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 those ideas and

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 we've created a lot

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 of content and

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 have addressed those

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 questions on how to

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 do the audio mix

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 and solve that

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 problem.

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 If you're still

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 asking those

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 questions, feel free

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 to put it into the

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 comment fields,

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 you know, ask that

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 or reach out to us

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 at the Church

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 Digital and we can

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 kind of help you

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 get pointed in the

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 right direction.

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 But, you know,

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 more than, you're

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 at Christmas carols,

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 that's a part of

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 doing a Christmas

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 Eve service or a

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 Christmas service.

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 But there's other

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 things that start to

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 get weird, like how

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 do you do a

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 digital candle

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 lighting?

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 Like, candle

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 lighting is a big

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 part, you know, for

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 me growing up, being

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 in churches, you

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 know, my Christmas

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 Eve service had the

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 candle lighting.

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 And so, you know,

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 you do that at the

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 end, you'd raise the

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 light up, you'd see

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 all the hundreds of

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 candles across the

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 room being lit.

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 And, well, dang

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 it, you know, like a

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 digital service doesn't

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 quite have that same

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 effect or can it.

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 You know, a lot of

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 times when we really

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 define the word

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 digital and things

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 like this, it's meant

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 to be, maybe there's

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 an opportunity to

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 draw physical objects

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 into what you're

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 doing online.

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 Like, I'll be honest,

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 here at my desk, 24

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 7, I have a fidget

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 cube, that's what you

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 call these things,

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 right?

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 And so, like, for

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 me, this, even when

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 I'm on Zoom meetings

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 or doing broadcasts

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 even naturally, just

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 even as I'm talking

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 with you, I'm

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 interacting with this

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 to keep me grounded,

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 to keep me aware of

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 what's happening

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 physically.

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 And so, during your

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 fidgetal broadcast,

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 during your sermons,

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 maybe start to bring

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 in outside objects

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 that maybe somebody

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 has within the house

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 and use it as part

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 of the storytelling.

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 So, maybe you're

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 inviting people to

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 go get candles

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 and even in advance,

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 hey, we're going to

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 do a fidgetal

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 candle lighting

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 service, get your

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 candles, bring them

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 in.

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 You're not seeing

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 the massive number

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 of people, but people

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 even distributed

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 digitally are connecting

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 with it.

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 Maybe there's parts

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 of the sermon

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 elements where you're

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 talking about a

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 Christmas ornament

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 or a Christmas gift

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 or things that they

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 would have physically

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 within the room

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 that you can start

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 to connect

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 digitally, this idea

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 of what's in the

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 physical world

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 with what you're

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 teaching digitally.

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 And so, it's a lot

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 of that kind

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 of multi-sensory

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 approach that's

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 really going to

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 tie into this idea

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 of creating a real

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 fidgetal experience.

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 Yeah, you know,

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 and this is difficult.

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 This is going to be

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 hard for so many

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 churches, right?

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 Because part of our

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 metrics when it comes

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 to church online has

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 been in the number

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 of streams or the

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 number of views

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 that we receive

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 on the back end.

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 But the reality

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 with a fidgetal

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 candle lighting

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 experience, if the

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 people that we're

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 going to feel

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 most comfortable

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 with this holiday

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 season and coming

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 around is our

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 family.

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 And some people

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 may have larger

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 families and other

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 adults that they

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 group up with in

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 the season.

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 If you equip them

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 through digital

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 means to have a

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 candle lighting

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 service where

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 they're at and

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 hey, we'll provide

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 the content, you

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 guys provide the

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 candles and however

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 many of you are

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 on the table,

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 whether it's 12,

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 15, 20 in your

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 backyard, whatever

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 else, you know, do

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 this along with us

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 and you'd be

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 surprised at what

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 kind of response

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 you might get.

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 Now, will it show

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 up in the stream

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 numbers that 12 or

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 15 or 20 people

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 were there watching

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 it?

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 No.

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 But if you

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 encourage your

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 folks to, hey,

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 take a photo of

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 it, share it on

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 social media,

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 encourage other

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 folks to do the

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 same, you know,

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 put up a hashtag

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 for it, you know,

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 our church

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 Christmas, you

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 know, whatever it

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 is, you'd be

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 surprised the kind

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 of feedback that

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 you would get for

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 your folks because

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 you equip them to

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 have the service

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 where they're at.

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 And the other

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 thing is, and

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 this is always a

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 struggle for those

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 of us that hold

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 those services in

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 physical environments

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 is that we feel

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 like we're taking

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 church members away

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 from their families

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 on those days to

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 help enact

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 experiences where

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 we're at,

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 right?

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 Like I know in

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 Miami, Christmas

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 Eve is bigger than

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 Christmas Day.

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 And so whenever

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 we hold a

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 Christmas Eve

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 service, Christmas,

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 you know, we're

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 taking away

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 volunteers from

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 family events where

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 they could be

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 impacting non-believers.

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 This provides an

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 opportunity to

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 equip them to go

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 reach their

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 non-believing

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 friends where

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 they're at to

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 share the gospel

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 with them right

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 at their own

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 family event.

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 It really can be

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 a solid thing that

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 can bring the

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 family together

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 instead of seeing

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 the church as

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 something that

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 takes their

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 family member

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 away.

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 Yeah, it's a

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 different strategy

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 there, but it's

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 this idea of

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 creating this

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 digital service

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 as the glue to

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 connect families

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 together.

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 It's not a

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 separate event that

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 you're bringing

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 them to, but it's

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 a central piece, a

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 central part of

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 what's happening

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 through the holiday,

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 through the Christmas

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 Eve, the Christmas

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 day, experience

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 celebration that's

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 happening at the

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 house.

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 And so in

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 families, inviting

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 others to come

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 together, neighbors,

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 other family

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 members, whatever

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 social distancing

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 allows, huge

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 evangelical

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 opportunity, huge

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 opportunity for us

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 to reach out to

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 our ones, our

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 individual ones, and

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 start to connect

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 with them in a new

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 way.

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 Well, hey, we

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 reached out, and

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 so we asked some

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 churches in some

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 Facebook groups,

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 hey, what are you

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 guys doing for

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 Christmas?

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 And got a lot of

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 good feedback, because

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 I mean, listen, 2020

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 if nothing else is a

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 big giant experiment.

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 And so it's really

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 interesting to see

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 some different

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 approaches out here.

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 Justin Percy from

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 Connection Church,

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 hey, so we're

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 creating a

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 subscription box or

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 crate to make the

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 experience interactive

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 for our families at

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 home, as well as to

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 make it easier for our

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 people to invite

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 friends to.

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 The boxes are

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 printed like presents

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 with do not open

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 till and a QR code

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 for the stream.

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 I love, and

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 they're up in

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 Canada, so they're

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 Connection Church, so

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 they've got all

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 sorts of cold up

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 there.

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 Justin, hope you're

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 staying warm with

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 what you're doing.

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 You're welcome to

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 come down to Miami

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 anytime you want and

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 thaw out, but love

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 this idea.

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 Subscription, there's

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 pros and cons.

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 Yeah, it can be

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 inward facing, but if

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 you're communicating in

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 advance, almost looking

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 at it like the RSVP

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 for the seats.

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 Towards that, not

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 making the service

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 exclusive to only if

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 you have the box, but

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 as a way to, once

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 again, provide some

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 fidgetal touch

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 points, some physical

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 touch points that tie

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 into the service, I

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 think there's lots of

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 positives with that.

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 Ray, are you

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 thinking anything?

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 Yeah, there's a

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 couple things, right?

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 Like, Insider can

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 actually be so cool that

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 you can make a kind of

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 FOMO to something to

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 where even outsiders

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 will want to be part

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 of it, and they may

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 want a box as well.

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 So I think if you can,

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 Justin, just make sure

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 that you got your boxes

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 ready early enough so

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 that for those who

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 aren't part of the

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 church that want to

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 take part in this

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 experience that may or

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 may not be believers

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 might want to actually

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 get a box and that

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 their friend can hook

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 them up with a box.

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 Like, man, I can't go

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 over to your house or

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 maybe I don't feel

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 comfortable with that

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 right now, but do you

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 think I could get a

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 box for my family?

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 Absolutely.

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 You know, or even

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 there's just, and we

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 all recognize this, there's

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 a lot of churches that

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 aren't offering any

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 experiences right now.

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 And it's not that

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 you're trying to steal

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 help out a brother in

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 Christ in this season

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 just by providing a

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 digital experience for

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 them and their family

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 at home, why not do

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 it?

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 So kudos to you,

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 Justin.

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 Sounds very creative.

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 Sounds a lot of fun.

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 Love, love that.

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 Love what's happening

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 up at Conexus.

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 Hey, we've got Nathan

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 Martin here.

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 We're doing a totally

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 digital approach.

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 Now, applause with

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 that, just one sentence

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 right there.

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 A totally digital

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 approach.

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 We're producing a

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 30-minute Christmas

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 Eve service that will

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 premiere on Facebook

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 and the YouTube page.

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 We're asking our

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 entire congregation

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 to make sure to

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 share the experience

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 with someone in

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 their life.

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 And so very

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 outward-facing,

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 very evangelical

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 with that.

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 We're making it

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 clear that they

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 should not just

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 simply share the

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 link to these

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 people's profiles,

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 but to share the

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 experience with the

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 other person.

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 Now, what you're

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 hearing is like a

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 physical invite,

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 come watch this with

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 me, that type of

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 thing where it's

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 either been doing,

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 it's happening in

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 physical space, let

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 me invite you over to

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 my house, let me

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 invite you into a

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 watch party and do

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 this experience

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 through Facebook or

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 a number of

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 platforms that are

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 doing it at this

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 point.

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 I love the

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 intentionality, Nathan,

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 towards the evangelism,

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 towards using this

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 digital content to

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 connect with people

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 through the

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 Christmas service

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 season to create

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 an experience to

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 dialogue, to have

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 conversations.

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 And so the

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 ability to not just

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 create that 30-minute

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 piece, but to also

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 maybe have some

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 prep questions,

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 follow-up questions,

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 dialogue questions.

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 Hey, so I just

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 shared this service

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 with my friend, what

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 do I need to talk

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 about afterwards?

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 Do I, as the

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 person who's sharing

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 the service with

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 someone else, am I

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 equipped to kind of

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 even take that next

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 level?

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 Those would be some

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 questions that I would

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 dig into.

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 Don't just create the

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 experience, but help

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 me as the person

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 who's sharing it.

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 Help me with some

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 wisdom to facilitate

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 the conversation

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 towards it.

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 Wisdom, and I'm

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 wearing an antler

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 hat.

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 Anyway, what do

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 you got, Ray?

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 What are you

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 thinking about?

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 No, I think that's

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 great.

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 Some of the things, and

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 I know we're going to

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 cover this in a little

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 bit, Jeff, but even

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 thinking through, so

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 what is that next

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 step for the person

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 who's watching that

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 isn't so connected to

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 church, right?

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 That's kind of the

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 big thing that I always

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 wonder is, all right,

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 so now how do I

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 interact with you, and

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 what is that going to

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 mean for me as a

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 non-believer if I'm

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 watching your broadcast

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 and I loved it and I

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 want to take that next

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 step?

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 Just making sure

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 that that's very

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 clear, that it's

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 baked into the

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 message, that it's

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 even baked into the

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 hosting ahead of time,

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 having one clear next

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 step for the entire

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 broadcast of, hey,

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 listen, this is your

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 next step.

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 Go to this website,

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 you know, click on

00:17:30.600 --> 00:17:31.780
 this form, fill it

00:17:31.780 --> 00:17:32.600
 out, let us know that

00:17:32.600 --> 00:17:33.480
 you watched it, let us

00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:34.180
 know what questions you

00:17:34.180 --> 00:17:34.960
 have, et cetera, but

00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:35.500
 give a way to get

00:17:35.500 --> 00:17:36.660
 feedback from those

00:17:36.660 --> 00:17:37.800
 folks, and then

00:17:37.800 --> 00:17:39.280
 encouraging those

00:17:39.280 --> 00:17:40.020
 church members that

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 are going to be

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 sharing this to

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 encourage others to

00:17:41.880 --> 00:17:43.080
 fill out that form.

00:17:43.220 --> 00:17:43.560
 Like, hey, you

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 watched it?

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 Awesome.

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 Did you fill out the

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 form?

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 No, man, here, let

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 me go ahead and send

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 you a link, you

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 know, following up to

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 make sure that that

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 took place, because

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 that next step form,

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 really, it's so much

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 for those of us who

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 do church online.

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 It really is.

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 It's the way that

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 people move from

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 anonymity to being

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 part of the church, and

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 so they have to take

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 that next step.

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 So if you're

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 designing this, you

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 got, you know, six,

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 seven weeks, right

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 now is the time to

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 make sure that it's

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 baked in as best as

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 possible and have it

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 clear as day.

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 And one, one, please,

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 one next step.

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 Yes, and so a lot

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 of that really comes

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 into, like, just the

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 clarity of the service

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 where there is one

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 thing I want these

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 people to do and try

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 to get that, judge

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 that business term,

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 conversion rate, judge

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 the successfulness off

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 of that one thing.

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 You know, I tell the

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 story of Easter 2020

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 where a church that's a

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 friend of mine had

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 500,000 views online

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 and on TV, but they

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 only had 11 connection

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 cards filled out.

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 And some of that

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 really comes down to

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 there's so much

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 others going, other

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 things going on, they

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 didn't clearly

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 communicate the

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 connection card, or

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 it just got lost in

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 the shuffle of

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 everything else, a

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 number of issues.

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 But for y'all who

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 are starting and doing

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 this out, make sure

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 the connection card

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 is clear, that it's

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 very simple to fill

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 out.

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 It's not overly

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 evasive.

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 And judge the

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 successfulness of the

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 service based on your

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 ability to get people

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 connected into something

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 else.

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 Maybe if it's whatever

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 that next step is for

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 your church and your

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 engagement pathway.

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 Whatever you want to

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 drive them to, I would

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 suggest your Christmas

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 Eve service for 2020

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 is only successful as

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 whatever it drives

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 those people to at the

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 next level.

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 Right.

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 And then the last

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 thing with that is

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 being realistic about

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 what the expectations

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 are of that.

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 your church is only

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 so large, and

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 especially during the

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 season where so many

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 of us are unsure as

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 far as who's still

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 part of the core, the

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 committed, the

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 congregation, and the

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 crowd, right?

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 And so make sure that

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 your expectations are

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 right for whatever that

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 experience is going to

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 look like and what

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 next steps that you're

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 communicating towards.

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 Definitely, definitely

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 there.

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 Hey, so even though

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 we're as late in the

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 year as we are,

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 normally, you know,

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 most, some churches

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 will start talking

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 Christmas, like June,

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 July, there were

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 seasons as creative

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 director was like,

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 if I'm not talking

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 about Christmas in

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 August, there's

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 something wrong.

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 Well, 2020 is weird.

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 Like, we know that

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 coming in.

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 And I guarantee you

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 probably weren't

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 talking about it in

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 August.

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 But even as late as

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 we are in the year,

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 there's still time to

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 plan and prepare for

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 something to be done

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 creative in this

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 holiday season heading

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 into Christmas to

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 connect with it.

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 So take the time,

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 talk with your teams,

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 develop a strategy

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 that envelops, I

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 mean, all the things

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 that we talked about,

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 how to be digital,

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 how to reach out and

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 really utilize this as

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 an opportunity to

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 connect with ones and

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 create a very powerful

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 evangelical tool for

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 your people and make

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 sure that they

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 understand how to do

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 these things.

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 So lots of wisdom

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 here in this broadcast.

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 And oh, by the way,

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 don't forget about

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 December 26th and 27th,

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 that literal next week.

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 You know, I know

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 Ray, Christ Fellowship

00:20:58.460 --> 00:20:59.400
 Miami, like you guys

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 aren't doing any

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 physical services that

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 week.

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 You're shutting down

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 and only doing online.

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 You want to talk a

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 little bit about that?

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 Yeah, much like other

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 churches have done in

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 the past.

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 I mean, we learned a

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 whole lot from COVID

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 and especially in a

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 year where our max

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 capacity right now

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 down here in South

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 Florida is 25% of our

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 physical venues.

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 That's the maximum

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 amount of people that

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 we're allowed to hit.

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 And so the reality of

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 it is, is many of our

00:21:21.020 --> 00:21:22.040
 staff are going to be

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 putting in a lot of

00:21:22.780 --> 00:21:23.460
 work that week,

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 Christmas week, even

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 leading into the 24th.

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 We're going to do a

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 physical experience on

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 Christmas Eve, but

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 because of that, because

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 of there's so much

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 expectation, we want

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 them to give as much

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 as they can to those

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 services, but also

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 understanding that

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 staff, volunteer staff

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 and volunteers are

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 going to have a

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 weekend where they can

00:21:41.160 --> 00:21:42.340
 spend time with their

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 families and

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 especially Christmas

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 day.

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 You know, we don't

00:21:45.100 --> 00:21:45.680
 want them worrying

00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:46.700
 about Christmas that

00:21:46.700 --> 00:21:47.860
 weekend in the sense of

00:21:47.860 --> 00:21:48.160
 church.

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 We want them

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 experiencing it and

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 then also sharing

00:21:50.860 --> 00:21:51.740
 that experience, that

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 special online digital

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 experience, sharing that

00:21:55.020 --> 00:21:55.740
 with their unbelieving

00:21:55.740 --> 00:21:57.000
 friends, you know, or

00:21:57.000 --> 00:21:58.180
 experiencing it together

00:21:58.180 --> 00:21:59.060
 with them after they've

00:21:59.060 --> 00:21:59.540
 unwrapped their

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 PlayStation 5.

00:22:00.840 --> 00:22:01.960
 why not stop by CF

00:22:01.960 --> 00:22:02.800
 Miami.org and that

00:22:02.800 --> 00:22:03.720
 terrible Sony web

00:22:03.720 --> 00:22:05.000
 browser and watch a

00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:05.680
 service, you know?

00:22:06.080 --> 00:22:07.040
 So if they have the

00:22:07.040 --> 00:22:07.820
 case, we don't have a

00:22:07.820 --> 00:22:08.720
 PS5 app yet.

00:22:08.780 --> 00:22:09.680
 You guys, we're not

00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:10.080
 that cool.

00:22:10.220 --> 00:22:11.580
 So anyways, you know, if

00:22:11.580 --> 00:22:12.500
 they've got the capability

00:22:12.500 --> 00:22:13.980
 of doing that, then why

00:22:13.980 --> 00:22:15.080
 not leveraging that

00:22:15.080 --> 00:22:16.120
 weekend, especially a

00:22:16.120 --> 00:22:17.040
 weekend which typically

00:22:17.040 --> 00:22:18.920
 pre-COVID was a poorly

00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:20.180
 attended weekend for us.

00:22:20.740 --> 00:22:21.700
 We can leverage it as an

00:22:21.700 --> 00:22:23.100
 opportunity to maximize our

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 results on digital.

00:22:23.960 --> 00:22:24.540
 And when I say poorly

00:22:24.540 --> 00:22:25.240
 attended, I meant

00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:26.780
 physically, digitally, it's

00:22:26.780 --> 00:22:27.580
 always been off the charts.

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 So.

00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:29.600
 Yeah.

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 So there's an opportunity

00:22:30.600 --> 00:22:31.700
 here to rethink some

00:22:31.700 --> 00:22:32.660
 things, you know, like

00:22:32.660 --> 00:22:35.160
 evaluate how those

00:22:35.160 --> 00:22:36.640
 services post Christmas

00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:37.880
 works.

00:22:37.980 --> 00:22:39.040
 Is it worth the effort?

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 Is it worth the stress

00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:43.220
 that it puts on the

00:22:43.220 --> 00:22:43.700
 staff?

00:22:43.880 --> 00:22:45.340
 And so wrestle with some

00:22:45.340 --> 00:22:46.220
 of these things where you

00:22:46.220 --> 00:22:47.200
 may not have considered

00:22:47.200 --> 00:22:48.500
 digital being an option

00:22:48.500 --> 00:22:50.540
 2018, 2019.

00:22:50.860 --> 00:22:52.020
 Digital certainly is an

00:22:52.020 --> 00:22:53.780
 option in 2020.

00:22:53.960 --> 00:22:56.520
 To help maybe spread the

00:22:56.520 --> 00:22:58.000
 stress or put it more on

00:22:58.000 --> 00:22:59.380
 the Christmas instead of

00:22:59.380 --> 00:23:01.040
 what's happening there the

00:23:01.040 --> 00:23:01.560
 week after.

00:23:01.760 --> 00:23:03.660
 So, hey, love conversations

00:23:03.660 --> 00:23:05.380
 like this and love what

00:23:05.380 --> 00:23:06.520
 we're doing here with

00:23:06.520 --> 00:23:07.700
 beta helping churches like

00:23:07.700 --> 00:23:08.680
 yours answer some of these

00:23:08.680 --> 00:23:09.020
 questions.

00:23:09.220 --> 00:23:10.860
 Once again, text your

00:23:10.860 --> 00:23:12.900
 questions that you have to

00:23:12.900 --> 00:23:16.540
 for the church, 44-324-8724.

00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:18.600
 And we'll most likely

00:23:18.600 --> 00:23:20.120
 address them in a future

00:23:20.120 --> 00:23:22.040
 episode here at the beta

00:23:22.040 --> 00:23:23.120
 show with the church

00:23:23.120 --> 00:23:23.440
 digital.

00:23:23.640 --> 00:23:24.720
 And, hey, we're going to

00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:25.440
 wrap with this.

00:23:25.600 --> 00:23:26.540
 We may talk about

00:23:26.540 --> 00:23:27.200
 Christmas again.

00:23:27.300 --> 00:23:28.460
 We may, we've got other

00:23:28.460 --> 00:23:29.580
 questions that we want to

00:23:29.580 --> 00:23:30.100
 hit that are getting

00:23:30.100 --> 00:23:31.000
 texted in as well.

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 So text us your stuff.

00:23:32.820 --> 00:23:34.320
 And thanks for jumping on

00:23:34.320 --> 00:23:35.000
 here with the beta show.

00:23:35.320 --> 00:23:36.740
 For Ray, this is, excuse

00:23:36.740 --> 00:23:38.520
 me, for Reindeer Day

00:23:38.520 --> 00:23:41.580
 Armas, this is Jeff, who's

00:23:41.580 --> 00:23:43.060
 evidently lighting up the

00:23:43.060 --> 00:23:45.460
 holiday with the church.digital

00:23:45.460 --> 00:23:46.400
 and Stated Church Planning.

00:23:46.520 --> 00:23:48.020
 Thanks for being here for the

00:23:48.020 --> 00:23:48.160
 show.

00:23:48.220 --> 00:23:49.680
 We'll see you next time here

00:23:49.680 --> 00:23:50.220
 at beta.

00:23:50.440 --> 00:23:50.920
 Y'all have a good day.