WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.820 Hey, welcome to The Beta Show, episode 10 here. 00:00:05.280 --> 00:00:07.240 Excited to join you guys on a Thursday. 00:00:07.340 --> 00:00:08.680 We typically do this Wednesday. 00:00:09.320 --> 00:00:10.860 Scheduling conflicts, hey, it happens. 00:00:11.000 --> 00:00:11.960 Be flexible with us. 00:00:12.040 --> 00:00:13.000 Thank you for that. 00:00:13.100 --> 00:00:15.340 So hey, we're bringing in The Beta Show 00:00:15.340 --> 00:00:17.700 where we answer online ministry questions. 00:00:17.940 --> 00:00:22.800 You can text them, 484-324-8724 to us. 00:00:22.860 --> 00:00:23.840 That's number four of the church 00:00:23.840 --> 00:00:25.080 if you speak telephone alphabet. 00:00:25.620 --> 00:00:26.920 And we'd love to hear from you. 00:00:26.920 --> 00:00:29.480 Hey, we brought Ray DeArmis, of course, 00:00:29.900 --> 00:00:31.540 a digital pastor at Christ Fellowship Miami, 00:00:31.680 --> 00:00:34.740 joining us once again here at The Beta Show episode. 00:00:34.980 --> 00:00:38.300 And we're bringing in Ray's boss, Ben Stapley, 00:00:38.480 --> 00:00:39.900 who's the weekend experience director 00:00:39.900 --> 00:00:41.100 at Christ Fellowship Miami. 00:00:41.760 --> 00:00:44.620 I, myself, Jeffrey, I used to work at Christ Fellowship Miami 00:00:44.620 --> 00:00:46.740 doing similar to what their jobs are now. 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:49.660 And so this is kind of a homecoming of sorts. 00:00:50.080 --> 00:00:51.800 And honestly, within the next time, 00:00:51.860 --> 00:00:53.560 we are gonna see how awkward 00:00:53.560 --> 00:00:55.120 we're gonna make it for Ray DeArmis 00:00:55.120 --> 00:00:58.780 because, you know, I mean, his boss is here, former. 00:00:59.420 --> 00:01:01.420 And so it's just, and we're gonna start off. 00:01:01.560 --> 00:01:04.040 Even before we get, oh, let me tease the topic here. 00:01:04.580 --> 00:01:05.900 We're gonna talk Easter. 00:01:06.260 --> 00:01:07.800 We're 80 days out till Easter. 00:01:08.160 --> 00:01:08.980 It's crazy. 00:01:09.740 --> 00:01:11.260 There's so much political unrest, 00:01:11.340 --> 00:01:13.600 so much turmoil, physical, digital, 00:01:13.800 --> 00:01:15.860 fidgetal, everything that's happening 00:01:15.860 --> 00:01:16.820 in the world today. 00:01:17.260 --> 00:01:18.460 We're 80 days out. 00:01:18.820 --> 00:01:20.840 And so we're gonna talk here with Beta 10 00:01:20.840 --> 00:01:24.220 about how to plan Easter fidgetally, 00:01:24.460 --> 00:01:26.220 physically, and digitally. 00:01:26.440 --> 00:01:28.260 What does both of that look like? 00:01:28.440 --> 00:01:30.240 Ben Stapley, weekend experience director, 00:01:30.440 --> 00:01:31.980 is incredible in this area. 00:01:32.360 --> 00:01:35.440 I cannot wait to learn from him on this. 00:01:35.700 --> 00:01:36.420 It's incredible stuff. 00:01:36.600 --> 00:01:37.780 So before we get there, 00:01:38.240 --> 00:01:39.840 hey, Ray, I got an issue, all right? 00:01:39.980 --> 00:01:40.160 What's up? 00:01:40.380 --> 00:01:43.060 So my mom, I'm gonna talk about my mom here 00:01:43.060 --> 00:01:43.940 on the broadcast. 00:01:44.120 --> 00:01:45.940 Ben, I want your feedback here. 00:01:46.540 --> 00:01:49.920 My mom, who is one of your online small group leaders, 00:01:50.180 --> 00:01:51.800 actually, I think she leads multiple small groups. 00:01:51.880 --> 00:01:53.240 Actually, I would say that she's probably 00:01:53.240 --> 00:01:56.040 one of the best online small group leaders, 00:01:56.440 --> 00:01:58.120 one of the best small group leaders 00:01:58.120 --> 00:01:59.480 in all of Christ Fellowship. 00:01:59.880 --> 00:02:02.220 Phenomenal, the heart that she pours into this, 00:02:02.280 --> 00:02:03.240 incredible stuff. 00:02:04.260 --> 00:02:06.100 Ray, she says she's tried to give you 00:02:06.100 --> 00:02:08.780 a Christmas gift multiple times, 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:11.520 and you were not able and receptive 00:02:11.520 --> 00:02:12.760 to get it from her. 00:02:12.960 --> 00:02:14.740 Like, what's going on here, Ray? 00:02:14.860 --> 00:02:15.700 I don't understand. 00:02:15.880 --> 00:02:17.900 My mom wants to give you something, 00:02:18.020 --> 00:02:19.480 and you weren't able to get it? 00:02:19.800 --> 00:02:22.080 For me, it's been about actually traveling 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:24.040 to the office, and that's kind of the funny thing. 00:02:24.140 --> 00:02:26.840 I've been working from home more often than not 00:02:26.840 --> 00:02:28.560 that like the few times that I was headed in 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:30.120 that I contacted Linda, I was like, 00:02:30.160 --> 00:02:30.780 hey, are you available? 00:02:30.900 --> 00:02:32.600 And she's magically out, which I'm like, 00:02:32.700 --> 00:02:34.220 oh, wow, at least she's out of the house 00:02:34.220 --> 00:02:34.880 and doing stuff. 00:02:35.220 --> 00:02:36.440 And it kills me because I'm like, 00:02:36.480 --> 00:02:38.540 I want to go over, I want to pick up this thing, 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:40.260 and yet continually, every time, 00:02:40.320 --> 00:02:41.600 we keep missing each other. 00:02:41.760 --> 00:02:42.900 And so that's been a pain. 00:02:42.980 --> 00:02:44.000 It's been more on my part. 00:02:44.400 --> 00:02:46.420 But if nothing else, I got to tell you guys, 00:02:46.480 --> 00:02:49.940 this time, working from home has been fun, 00:02:50.340 --> 00:02:52.360 like getting to hang out with my kids 00:02:52.360 --> 00:02:54.040 and now a puppy and all this other stuff. 00:02:54.160 --> 00:02:55.760 Jeff, do you have the said gift now? 00:02:55.860 --> 00:02:56.280 Is that what happened? 00:02:56.280 --> 00:02:58.420 I have said gift right here. 00:02:58.760 --> 00:03:00.240 Oh, you see, Linda, that's not going to work. 00:03:00.520 --> 00:03:03.160 I'll see you in person, Linda, before I see Jeff. 00:03:03.280 --> 00:03:05.340 Like that's, I never see Jeff in person. 00:03:05.600 --> 00:03:07.160 So for those of you guys who don't know, 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:09.420 like this is Jeff and I's relationship. 00:03:09.420 --> 00:03:10.700 Like this is where it is, 00:03:10.740 --> 00:03:12.660 despite the fact that I am probably two miles 00:03:12.660 --> 00:03:14.060 from his house right now. 00:03:14.300 --> 00:03:16.600 But yeah, this is like the extent of like the time 00:03:16.600 --> 00:03:17.700 that we see each other. 00:03:18.280 --> 00:03:21.500 But yeah, Linda is the best, the top small group leader, 00:03:21.760 --> 00:03:24.780 not just in CF, but because she started underneath Jeff 00:03:24.780 --> 00:03:26.060 and she's been doing this since now. 00:03:26.320 --> 00:03:27.020 She's an innovator. 00:03:27.100 --> 00:03:28.220 She's done such incredible work. 00:03:28.320 --> 00:03:29.760 And so Linda, thank you so much. 00:03:30.060 --> 00:03:30.640 You're incredible. 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:31.320 You're awesome. 00:03:31.480 --> 00:03:32.460 I value you so much. 00:03:32.500 --> 00:03:34.080 And so thank you for continually being great. 00:03:35.040 --> 00:03:36.420 So since you don't care enough 00:03:36.420 --> 00:03:38.240 to even pick up this package from my mother, 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:40.420 I'm going to go ahead and open it here live 00:03:40.420 --> 00:03:43.060 I am on the internet in this broadcast here 00:03:43.060 --> 00:03:44.440 and let's just show it off. 00:03:45.080 --> 00:03:45.560 I want to see it. 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:49.060 So hey, Ray, you would have gotten an incredible, 00:03:49.480 --> 00:03:52.180 an incredible Mandalorian hat. 00:03:52.260 --> 00:03:56.040 I mean, this is literally like Mando on your head, bro. 00:03:56.380 --> 00:03:57.120 That's still mine. 00:03:57.360 --> 00:03:57.880 That's still mine. 00:03:57.920 --> 00:03:59.020 I'm coming to claim that. 00:03:59.160 --> 00:04:00.140 I'm not sure. 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:01.720 I'm coming to claim that, Jeffrey. 00:04:02.060 --> 00:04:03.900 But listen, it doesn't stop there. 00:04:04.420 --> 00:04:07.440 The level of rejection on my mother here. 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:08.920 Check this out. 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:10.060 I'm not going to put it on. 00:04:10.120 --> 00:04:11.000 Maybe I'll put it on. 00:04:12.080 --> 00:04:13.560 A Mandalorian mask. 00:04:14.180 --> 00:04:15.020 I'm coming to claim it. 00:04:15.220 --> 00:04:17.140 You don't buy this in a store, Ray. 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:20.200 My mom personally made this. 00:04:20.200 --> 00:04:24.120 This stitching is from my mother to you. 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:26.320 And you didn't take the time, bro. 00:04:26.960 --> 00:04:28.160 You didn't care enough. 00:04:28.540 --> 00:04:28.640 All right. 00:04:28.700 --> 00:04:29.520 I'm coming for it. 00:04:30.020 --> 00:04:32.000 Ben Stapley, Weekend Experience Director, 00:04:32.180 --> 00:04:33.420 Christ Fellowship Miami. 00:04:34.300 --> 00:04:38.840 What are your thoughts and Ray's boss thoughts? 00:04:39.520 --> 00:04:40.540 We're five minutes in. 00:04:40.580 --> 00:04:42.360 I just want to hear you keep on throwing Ray under the bus. 00:04:42.420 --> 00:04:42.800 This is great. 00:04:42.860 --> 00:04:43.640 I'm here for this content. 00:04:44.020 --> 00:04:45.700 I think the internet is here for this content. 00:04:45.980 --> 00:04:48.380 Man, you know, I'm feeling canceled right now. 00:04:48.460 --> 00:04:49.560 I'm feeling censored. 00:04:49.760 --> 00:04:52.420 This is a moment where I feel like, you know, 00:04:52.520 --> 00:04:55.780 where I feel like Jeff as a liberal is coming after me. 00:04:56.220 --> 00:04:57.220 Oh, I'm going to stop you there. 00:04:57.360 --> 00:04:58.180 I'm going to stop you there. 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:03.660 This is, you're either getting the viewership now, Jeff, 00:05:03.680 --> 00:05:04.280 or you're losing it. 00:05:04.340 --> 00:05:05.720 I'm not sure which way your audience is going. 00:05:05.740 --> 00:05:06.600 I'm not scared. 00:05:07.800 --> 00:05:08.280 Go ahead. 00:05:09.180 --> 00:05:09.760 I don't know. 00:05:09.840 --> 00:05:10.860 I was going to say it's great to be here. 00:05:10.900 --> 00:05:13.100 I was going to say with the three amigos. 00:05:13.720 --> 00:05:15.800 But at this point, it's kind of feeling more Three Musketeers. 00:05:15.900 --> 00:05:18.340 Either way, it's great to be here with you guys. 00:05:19.140 --> 00:05:20.020 Let's talk about Easter, right? 00:05:20.100 --> 00:05:20.880 80 days left. 00:05:21.060 --> 00:05:21.760 80 days left. 00:05:22.140 --> 00:05:24.940 And so, yeah, I'd love to talk about that and give some context, 00:05:25.020 --> 00:05:27.340 how to do that well in relationship to physically, 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:29.120 but more importantly, your audience, right? 00:05:29.140 --> 00:05:30.120 How to do that digitally. 00:05:30.420 --> 00:05:32.180 I think there's some great next steps there to help. 00:05:32.300 --> 00:05:34.500 Be very practical with your audience to make sure that's a win. 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:37.220 Like we already, you know, call it out, right? 00:05:37.360 --> 00:05:38.080 80 days left. 00:05:38.520 --> 00:05:41.080 So the first thing, just some overview things, 00:05:41.260 --> 00:05:42.700 would be start the planning now. 00:05:43.080 --> 00:05:44.300 You don't have much time. 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:45.540 This hits us every year, right? 00:05:45.540 --> 00:05:48.800 We usually plan like six months to plan Christmas 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:50.780 and then six weeks to plan Easter. 00:05:51.020 --> 00:05:53.000 But it's just because of where it falls on the calendar. 00:05:53.120 --> 00:05:53.700 So start now. 00:05:54.520 --> 00:05:55.240 You've been called out. 00:05:55.340 --> 00:05:56.040 You got 80 days. 00:05:56.140 --> 00:05:56.700 You can do this. 00:05:56.800 --> 00:05:57.240 Start your planning. 00:05:57.480 --> 00:05:59.920 The second, like two big overarching things I'd say 00:05:59.920 --> 00:06:00.660 in terms of the planning 00:06:00.660 --> 00:06:03.060 is make sure there's a strong action step. 00:06:03.440 --> 00:06:04.660 And so this is like for the people, 00:06:04.860 --> 00:06:06.020 the pastors who are leading 00:06:06.020 --> 00:06:07.620 or the people who are leading up to the pastors. 00:06:07.960 --> 00:06:09.080 What is the next step? 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:10.100 What is the call to action? 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:11.840 What am I supposed to do with this message? 00:06:12.220 --> 00:06:13.300 So make sure that you have, 00:06:13.640 --> 00:06:14.440 you got everybody in the room, 00:06:14.540 --> 00:06:15.660 biggest service of the year. 00:06:15.760 --> 00:06:16.840 What are you wanting them to do? 00:06:16.860 --> 00:06:18.680 And if you're looking for a strong action step, 00:06:18.820 --> 00:06:21.740 baptism is always a great way to go. 00:06:21.980 --> 00:06:23.820 You see a lot of churches do this again and again. 00:06:23.940 --> 00:06:26.840 You could do baptism, spontaneous baptisms that day. 00:06:27.320 --> 00:06:29.900 Or for the people who have accepted Christ saying, 00:06:30.020 --> 00:06:31.320 hey, sign up for baptism. 00:06:31.460 --> 00:06:32.220 That's your next step. 00:06:32.280 --> 00:06:34.680 We're doing that next week or next month or whatever it is. 00:06:34.760 --> 00:06:37.020 Just make sure you call people to an action 00:06:37.020 --> 00:06:40.280 because our life of faith is continually moving forward. 00:06:40.380 --> 00:06:41.260 So what is that next step? 00:06:41.840 --> 00:06:43.060 And then the next, yeah, yeah. 00:06:43.060 --> 00:06:44.180 Let's unpack a little bit here. 00:06:44.340 --> 00:06:46.820 Like spontane, first off, my mom just texted LOL. 00:06:47.940 --> 00:06:50.200 So Ray, I think you saw much love there. 00:06:50.300 --> 00:06:51.420 Literally, that did just happen. 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:53.320 But unpack here, Ben. 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:56.280 Talk to me a little bit about like a spontaneous baptism. 00:06:56.440 --> 00:06:57.800 What would that, I haven't, honestly, 00:06:57.860 --> 00:06:59.280 I've not done a lot of those in my life. 00:06:59.380 --> 00:07:01.120 What's a spontaneous baptism service look like? 00:07:01.420 --> 00:07:01.660 In context. 00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:03.080 Big words, prep. 00:07:03.480 --> 00:07:04.700 So you need to be prepped for that. 00:07:05.200 --> 00:07:05.220 So. 00:07:05.540 --> 00:07:06.420 Spontaneously prepping. 00:07:06.940 --> 00:07:07.780 Prepping spontaneously. 00:07:08.200 --> 00:07:11.220 You plan and then God provides. 00:07:11.840 --> 00:07:13.500 If you don't plan, you're going to, 00:07:13.500 --> 00:07:16.560 I don't know if he's going to miraculously bring a baptismal tank 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:20.320 into your sanctuary, you know, just manifested it or nothing. 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:21.100 Maybe you will. 00:07:21.380 --> 00:07:21.860 Maybe, you know. 00:07:22.280 --> 00:07:24.920 But I would say you plan so that God can provide. 00:07:25.220 --> 00:07:30.240 So you have everything lined up for those who want to be baptized that day. 00:07:30.440 --> 00:07:31.560 So it's the tank's ready. 00:07:31.980 --> 00:07:33.220 The shirts are ready. 00:07:33.320 --> 00:07:34.720 The changing room is ready. 00:07:34.940 --> 00:07:37.960 You've given yourself time in the service or in between services 00:07:37.960 --> 00:07:39.520 to handle that as well. 00:07:39.520 --> 00:07:42.480 You have the people who are going to be vetting some of those stories. 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:43.680 And probably vetting is not the right word. 00:07:43.880 --> 00:07:46.560 But hearing out those stories to affirm that, first of all, 00:07:46.580 --> 00:07:48.700 they understand the life choice that they're making 00:07:48.700 --> 00:07:50.700 and the step of faith and demonstration. 00:07:51.400 --> 00:07:54.640 And that if they don't, they kind of counsel those people through that 00:07:54.640 --> 00:07:55.880 and say, you know, I don't necessarily, 00:07:56.500 --> 00:07:58.460 I'm not sure you fully understand what this is. 00:07:58.680 --> 00:07:59.360 Can we keep talking? 00:07:59.620 --> 00:08:02.680 Instead of putting someone who gets the fever of the moment, 00:08:03.060 --> 00:08:05.120 taking a step that they don't actually believe in 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:08.400 just because the momentum of the room took hold of them. 00:08:08.780 --> 00:08:13.100 So that's, those are some basic ways to handle a spontaneous baptism moving forward. 00:08:13.860 --> 00:08:14.000 Yeah. 00:08:14.120 --> 00:08:16.540 I've got Eric Kidwell throwing a comment right here. 00:08:17.500 --> 00:08:20.640 Plantaneously, plantaneous equals planned and spontaneous. 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:21.940 Make room for God to move. 00:08:22.340 --> 00:08:22.760 Love it. 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:24.000 The great feedback, Eric. 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:27.040 Hey, I've seen one, I want to tell the story real quick. 00:08:27.140 --> 00:08:31.280 I've seen one spontaneous baptism service at a church that I was at. 00:08:31.520 --> 00:08:33.540 They had like, I want to say 25 people get baptized. 00:08:33.980 --> 00:08:36.820 And I was floored at what happened. 00:08:36.860 --> 00:08:38.080 I went up to the executive pastor. 00:08:38.200 --> 00:08:39.380 I was like, this is incredible. 00:08:39.520 --> 00:08:41.200 All these people came forward to get baptized. 00:08:41.420 --> 00:08:43.800 Like, I've never seen this in a spontaneous environment. 00:08:44.020 --> 00:08:45.740 And he said, Jeff, here's the secret. 00:08:45.980 --> 00:08:47.180 And I'll tell this to you. 00:08:47.580 --> 00:08:48.260 Maybe this is good. 00:08:48.300 --> 00:08:48.960 Maybe this is bad. 00:08:48.980 --> 00:08:50.220 You figure out if it's good for your church. 00:08:50.580 --> 00:08:54.400 He said, out of the three services, Jeff, we had a ringer in every service. 00:08:54.580 --> 00:08:57.660 We had one person that was already set that needed to get baptized. 00:08:58.280 --> 00:09:04.040 And we told him, hey, when it's time, when the pastor calls y'all forward to get baptized, go. 00:09:04.560 --> 00:09:09.640 But by going, by being that first person to start, you're setting the trend and others will follow suit. 00:09:10.360 --> 00:09:18.920 And so in every one of those services, multiple people ran forward to get baptized to publicly proclaim what God had done. 00:09:18.920 --> 00:09:21.620 And it was because somebody set the pace, set that standard for that. 00:09:21.680 --> 00:09:27.140 And it's always stuck with me, that story about how modeling and doing that in digital spaces is awesome. 00:09:27.880 --> 00:09:32.660 Yeah, we used to do this at a church I was at before up in New Jersey, Liquid Church. 00:09:32.860 --> 00:09:33.880 And we would do it. 00:09:34.540 --> 00:09:36.120 And there was one Sunday. 00:09:36.220 --> 00:09:41.100 It was so powerful that we kept on having to take the time in between services to keep baptizing. 00:09:41.340 --> 00:09:43.260 And we had to tell people, we're full. 00:09:43.420 --> 00:09:44.860 Like, we actually need to start the next service. 00:09:44.900 --> 00:09:45.840 So we have to stop doing this. 00:09:46.060 --> 00:09:47.860 But you can get baptized at the end of the next service. 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:50.840 We kept on doing that to the end of the third service. 00:09:51.140 --> 00:09:52.660 And it was like 20 minutes over. 00:09:52.900 --> 00:09:58.820 And we told all of our guests who weren't coming for a 90-minute experience or two-hour experience. 00:09:59.060 --> 00:10:00.020 We said, hey, you know what? 00:10:00.500 --> 00:10:02.400 We're going to officially end the service. 00:10:02.680 --> 00:10:04.260 We have more baptisms we're going to do. 00:10:04.920 --> 00:10:06.480 You can feel free to leave. 00:10:06.580 --> 00:10:08.100 We know you've got lunch plans, et cetera, et cetera. 00:10:08.240 --> 00:10:08.960 Thanks so much. 00:10:09.400 --> 00:10:09.840 God bless. 00:10:09.920 --> 00:10:10.640 We'll see you next week. 00:10:11.220 --> 00:10:12.440 And everyone just sat there. 00:10:13.140 --> 00:10:15.900 And no, we're here for this. 00:10:16.100 --> 00:10:17.160 We're here for this. 00:10:17.340 --> 00:10:20.940 And so, again, God will take hold of it and do something powerful. 00:10:21.260 --> 00:10:25.400 But there is some ownership on our end in terms of being planned, like Eric said. 00:10:26.160 --> 00:10:32.500 Keeping that in mind, Ben, would you encourage people to have some of those facilities ready outside of the room because of that? 00:10:32.540 --> 00:10:35.680 Because I know that, like, the spontaneous baptisms in the room, it's very popular. 00:10:35.800 --> 00:10:36.340 It's very cool. 00:10:36.480 --> 00:10:39.880 But especially Easter Sunday, you've got to make sure you're on time. 00:10:39.960 --> 00:10:41.760 You've got those first-time guests that you're thinking of. 00:10:42.040 --> 00:10:44.760 And so, there's not as much space to run over, even for a spiritual moment. 00:10:44.860 --> 00:10:47.120 And we're talking about, like, plantaneous kind of thing. 00:10:47.240 --> 00:10:49.920 And so, how would you encourage churches to navigate some of that stuff? 00:10:51.220 --> 00:10:52.360 Fidgetal, plantaneous. 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:53.740 You guys love the hybrid words here. 00:10:54.180 --> 00:10:58.340 If space allows, yeah, do it and have it planned for somewhere else. 00:10:58.680 --> 00:11:02.300 The lobby space sometimes works nice because your service can still go on. 00:11:02.300 --> 00:11:06.580 But then that people in the lobby can see it and it can experience some energy. 00:11:06.980 --> 00:11:10.020 It's not tucked away in the nursery or even outside. 00:11:10.140 --> 00:11:13.640 If you have warmer weather like Miami, people are seeing that as they're coming in. 00:11:13.760 --> 00:11:17.360 Like, you're seeing people being baptized from the last service as you're entering into the new service. 00:11:17.700 --> 00:11:18.680 Talk about priming the pump. 00:11:18.800 --> 00:11:19.600 Man, that's exciting. 00:11:20.060 --> 00:11:20.960 What was that all about? 00:11:21.040 --> 00:11:21.700 I want to participate. 00:11:22.460 --> 00:11:22.620 Yep. 00:11:22.780 --> 00:11:28.520 And then I would even encourage churches, as much as possible, if you can, set up a live stream of that that day. 00:11:28.520 --> 00:11:32.200 Because even if it's, like, right on the front page of your website or something along those lines, 00:11:32.260 --> 00:11:36.140 because if somebody's going to get baptized the day of, but they want a family member to be part of it, 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:41.240 if you give them a place to go or a place to share it, just imagine how much more they'll appreciate that. 00:11:41.660 --> 00:11:46.680 So if it's right on the front of your website, you know, in our case, if it's CFMiami.org or if it's on your social media and you just tell them, 00:11:46.740 --> 00:11:51.540 hey, look, go to the YouTube account or go to their Instagram account and you can watch it happening live, 00:11:51.780 --> 00:11:56.940 that would be big because then it becomes a shareable experience that people can have real time, even if they're not in the building. 00:11:57.800 --> 00:11:57.880 Yeah. 00:11:58.480 --> 00:12:01.640 I'm going to hit some of those digital assets as well. 00:12:02.040 --> 00:12:02.780 Ray, that's super helpful. 00:12:03.060 --> 00:12:06.700 I know that you guys are all about that here on the site in this show. 00:12:06.940 --> 00:12:16.040 So two quick things before I jump to that is, hey, plan that action step and then plan your callback series or what your next thing you want people to come back for. 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:24.780 So you get everybody in the room and I've done this as a creative and we plan all of our energy on Easter and then the what's happening next is a want-want. 00:12:24.880 --> 00:12:25.580 Nobody knows. 00:12:25.700 --> 00:12:27.040 You didn't spend any effort on it. 00:12:27.140 --> 00:12:29.480 It isn't attractional for a first-time guest. 00:12:29.860 --> 00:12:33.440 They don't know what's in it for them and how it's going to hit a felt need of theirs. 00:12:33.940 --> 00:12:36.260 And it's like, oh, yeah, come back and we're studying Job. 00:12:36.920 --> 00:12:41.100 Okay, I thought it was pronounced Job, but sure, I'll come back and hear more about Job. 00:12:41.220 --> 00:12:41.360 Sure. 00:12:42.120 --> 00:12:42.680 Don't do that. 00:12:42.700 --> 00:12:43.420 The economy is rough. 00:12:43.500 --> 00:12:45.520 We need to read more about jobs in the Bible. 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:46.840 It's a financial series. 00:12:46.880 --> 00:12:47.260 I got it. 00:12:47.280 --> 00:12:47.400 Sure. 00:12:48.780 --> 00:13:01.220 I try to say plan 50-50, 50 for that holiday service and then 50% of your energy in terms of whatever that callback is because that's where you really see prolonged growth and not just a spike in attendance, right? 00:13:01.220 --> 00:13:06.140 But a sustained attendance because people are getting plugged in beyond that holiday service. 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:15.540 And then some physical – I think the only physical suggestion I had was a photo booth, which then lends itself to digital, right? 00:13:15.580 --> 00:13:16.980 You have a physical photo booth. 00:13:17.080 --> 00:13:17.860 People are on site. 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:20.520 They take a photo themselves and they share it digitally. 00:13:21.800 --> 00:13:25.060 Beyond that, there's a lot of other great digital assets. 00:13:25.060 --> 00:13:32.340 I like to say if you have – for the boomers, for your parents, create a Facebook frame that has your Easter branding on it. 00:13:33.060 --> 00:13:34.260 Get it out there a month early. 00:13:34.360 --> 00:13:40.580 They can attach that to their profile photo and then people see who you are just based upon scrolling on their social media. 00:13:41.020 --> 00:13:42.580 So that's great for the boomer, for your parent. 00:13:43.060 --> 00:13:49.560 For the millennial or for your child, a GIF on Instagram would be a great way to do that as well. 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:55.100 You can then upload that into your stories with whatever your Easter GIF may be. 00:13:55.500 --> 00:14:09.000 If you want to see some examples, go into Instagram and type in CFMiami and you'll see some of our Christmas ones are still up there, ways that we're trying to engage people digitally with that content during the series. 00:14:09.520 --> 00:14:13.060 And then a big one for all social media platforms is the hashtag, right? 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:14.920 What is the hashtag that you're going to use? 00:14:15.260 --> 00:14:16.820 And make sure it's not from another church. 00:14:17.660 --> 00:14:34.420 We started to use Easter at CF until we found out that our big brother, Christ Fellowship up in West Palm, who've got about five times the size of us, had already been on that handle for that hashtag for a long time. 00:14:34.500 --> 00:14:37.120 And so when you typed it in, they showed up, which is phenomenal. 00:14:37.980 --> 00:14:38.980 We're not going to compete with them. 00:14:39.520 --> 00:14:44.040 So we'll do Easter with Christ Fellowship is the hashtag that we landed on. 00:14:44.040 --> 00:14:51.680 So find a great hashtag that's going to work for you and your church and then promote that, promote that, promote that because it increases shareability. 00:14:52.580 --> 00:14:58.580 And then another digital tool, I'm trying to be practical here, Jeff, and give you guys lots of them, is digital tools. 00:14:59.180 --> 00:15:04.480 Ray does this incredible at Christ Fellowship is helping empower people being digital evangelists. 00:15:04.700 --> 00:15:09.440 So what are the tools that they need and they can have to share what's going on? 00:15:09.740 --> 00:15:18.280 We actually have a whole website created for it, cfmiami.org slash share, that all those tools, all those digital invites are there for a series. 00:15:18.800 --> 00:15:19.820 We do it per series. 00:15:20.260 --> 00:15:22.500 But even if you don't do it per series, at least do it for Easter. 00:15:23.100 --> 00:15:24.260 Make a digital invite. 00:15:24.740 --> 00:15:30.760 People can download, they can text it to a friend, and or they can post it on social media. 00:15:30.760 --> 00:15:38.980 It's a great way to mobilize your people digitally during the season to spread the word and to get more people coming to church, more importantly, coming to Christ. 00:15:39.620 --> 00:15:39.740 Yep. 00:15:40.040 --> 00:15:42.820 Shout out to Stuart Putnam over at CF West Palm. 00:15:42.940 --> 00:15:44.380 That's my search online dog up there. 00:15:44.760 --> 00:15:46.680 Real quick, Ben, because I know we're talking digital. 00:15:46.760 --> 00:15:47.720 I'm going to keep pumping into that. 00:15:47.800 --> 00:15:57.800 I'm going to let Jeff ask that in a second, but there's a saying that we use that really helps promote what we do and the safety measures here physically on campus. 00:15:57.960 --> 00:15:59.100 And you've crafted this thing. 00:15:59.180 --> 00:16:01.080 You've made sure that it's regularly part of our staff culture. 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:03.360 Can you let everybody know about it and how they can do that? 00:16:03.380 --> 00:16:07.420 Because so many people are still dealing with the questions of, hey, I want to be a first-time guest at your church. 00:16:07.520 --> 00:16:08.340 I want to come physically. 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:12.740 I've been watching you guys digitally, but I'm afraid of virus protocol. 00:16:12.740 --> 00:16:14.140 I'm afraid with some of that stuff. 00:16:14.220 --> 00:16:17.380 And so how do we communicate that out here at CF, and how can that help others? 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:20.760 Yeah, I'm a good Christian, so I love alliteration. 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:28.760 And so for us, it's being safe, spacious, and sanitized is not only what we are saying to people, so it's memorable, but it's actually what we're doing, right? 00:16:28.860 --> 00:16:32.540 So we're making sure that it's safe, that we're trying to minimize all the contacts. 00:16:32.620 --> 00:16:33.640 No hugging, no high-fiving. 00:16:34.020 --> 00:16:35.440 Everyone in masks, it's spacious. 00:16:35.800 --> 00:16:40.040 Six feet apart when we're standing, three seats apart when you're sitting. 00:16:40.100 --> 00:16:41.160 And then sanitized. 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:44.280 We're cleaning off every tie-touched area in between services. 00:16:44.580 --> 00:16:50.660 I know a lot of churches are probably doing this kind of 10 months into the pandemic now, or almost coming on a year into the pandemic. 00:16:51.520 --> 00:17:01.120 But in terms of using that terminology is helpful because, so a first-time guest who's not come to your church before is, I have no idea their level of cleanliness. 00:17:01.280 --> 00:17:04.700 I have no idea of their level of interest over me. 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:12.240 So you need to communicate during this season that it is going to be, for the lead pastor, it's going to be like they're going to be nauseous, right? 00:17:12.300 --> 00:17:13.160 I've been saying this forever. 00:17:13.300 --> 00:17:20.920 Yes, you need to reemphasize this during the season because you are trying to get people who have not heard this in the past year because they've not been tuned into your church. 00:17:21.220 --> 00:17:22.660 So re-upped that communication. 00:17:22.840 --> 00:17:24.000 Great point, Ray, on that one. 00:17:25.140 --> 00:17:25.460 Awesome. 00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:28.200 I want to back up to a couple things. 00:17:28.600 --> 00:17:34.440 By the way, Eric Kidwell, let's ask this question first because we're talking about spontaneous baptisms or even baptisms in digital. 00:17:34.580 --> 00:17:35.200 It needs to be digital. 00:17:35.720 --> 00:17:39.460 Have you guys seen baptisms work in light of lots of people doing church online? 00:17:39.820 --> 00:17:48.200 Any tips on encouraging baptisms at home, watching the baptisms, making it like how do you do this spontaneous baptism? 00:17:48.340 --> 00:17:49.200 What would that look like? 00:17:49.740 --> 00:17:53.340 Digitally, mashing words together physically, we got digitally. 00:17:53.420 --> 00:17:54.300 How do we do that digitally? 00:17:54.460 --> 00:17:55.220 What do you guys do at CF? 00:17:55.980 --> 00:17:56.840 A couple things. 00:17:56.960 --> 00:18:03.980 First of all, I'll say I want to be gracious towards how people view this sacrament within Christendom. 00:18:04.320 --> 00:18:05.900 Different churches see this differently. 00:18:05.900 --> 00:18:12.000 Some are pretty lenient with how they execute it, and some are pretty tight-fisted. 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:17.060 There's probably a better word than tight-fisted, but probably a little more strict on how they actually execute it. 00:18:17.260 --> 00:18:21.940 For us at Christ Fellowship, I'd say we probably lean more on the lenient side on how we do this. 00:18:22.020 --> 00:18:32.160 And for us, this is a sacrament for believers, someone who's professed faith in Christ, to be executed by a believer. 00:18:32.660 --> 00:18:35.300 And outside of those parameters, we're going for it. 00:18:35.440 --> 00:18:37.520 And so it doesn't need to be the lead pastor. 00:18:37.660 --> 00:18:40.500 It doesn't need to be someone clergy or someone with a particular title. 00:18:41.040 --> 00:18:47.480 For safety protocols, we said that's best to do someone who's in your social sphere that you have contact with. 00:18:47.540 --> 00:18:49.380 Because we don't want to bring the lead pastor over to your place. 00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:52.520 We don't know if that person has had infection recently. 00:18:53.020 --> 00:18:57.520 So find a relative that is in your social circle who is a follower of Christ. 00:18:58.260 --> 00:19:02.460 And if you are a follower of Christ and you've got a body of water, go for it. 00:19:02.660 --> 00:19:04.340 The nice thing in Miami, we can do that year-round. 00:19:04.960 --> 00:19:10.240 A lot of other churches can't do that, but I've seen churches do that with hot tubs in the home as well. 00:19:10.440 --> 00:19:11.400 And people have been opening up. 00:19:11.540 --> 00:19:14.160 We've found new creative opportunities here. 00:19:14.500 --> 00:19:18.100 The big thing I would encourage in relationship to this is just make sure you capture it. 00:19:18.540 --> 00:19:21.080 We all know that what gets rewarded gets repeated. 00:19:21.460 --> 00:19:25.340 And so take those stories, capture those stories, show them. 00:19:25.800 --> 00:19:28.780 And beyond rewarding it, it normalizes it, right? 00:19:29.120 --> 00:19:29.980 You might be the first one. 00:19:30.040 --> 00:19:30.560 Like, this is weird. 00:19:30.660 --> 00:19:32.360 I'm in my kiddie pool in the backyard. 00:19:32.560 --> 00:19:33.620 Yeah, that is really weird. 00:19:33.840 --> 00:19:34.800 But God sees it. 00:19:35.180 --> 00:19:36.040 He blesses it. 00:19:36.420 --> 00:19:37.880 It brings him great joy. 00:19:38.520 --> 00:19:39.080 Share that. 00:19:39.180 --> 00:19:41.080 And then we'll normalize that with other people. 00:19:41.480 --> 00:19:48.220 And again, kind of be a vanguard in this and take this new step so other people see it and be bold and do this as well in a new way during this new season. 00:19:49.040 --> 00:19:49.120 Right. 00:19:49.220 --> 00:19:52.040 And also provide a place for them to upload the content. 00:19:52.120 --> 00:20:00.940 So if you want an example of how this played out in real time for us, because last year baptism was our next step, even though we did a full-blown online service like many of you during Easter. 00:20:01.100 --> 00:20:07.580 If you go to cfmiami.org slash baptism, you'll see how we laid out an instructional video of how somebody can do an at-home baptism. 00:20:07.840 --> 00:20:12.180 And then we gave them instructions on how to upload their cell phone-taken video. 00:20:12.380 --> 00:20:15.280 We gave them a Dropbox file that they could easily upload to. 00:20:15.760 --> 00:20:18.580 So for us, it was Google Drive so that we could take that content. 00:20:18.580 --> 00:20:26.120 And then we can then show it in the following week's online service so that we could celebrate it as a whole with the rest of the congregation. 00:20:26.260 --> 00:20:27.760 And it was a great next step. 00:20:27.940 --> 00:20:35.920 And then we've just continued it so that if folks still want to do that from home, we still have baptism physically, but you can also do it at home and submit it digitally. 00:20:36.860 --> 00:20:37.300 Awesome. 00:20:37.540 --> 00:20:37.660 Yeah. 00:20:37.740 --> 00:20:38.260 Love that. 00:20:38.340 --> 00:20:40.040 Love that baptism, the uploading. 00:20:40.040 --> 00:20:46.640 I remember there was when I was digital pastor there, there was a guy that was baptizing someone. 00:20:47.220 --> 00:20:51.680 We were in Miami, it was online and it was in a small apartment in New York City. 00:20:51.860 --> 00:21:01.480 Like I'm talking uber small apartment, like they're baptizing somebody in a bathtub and they baptized towards the nozzle instead of away from the nozzle. 00:21:02.020 --> 00:21:06.800 And I'm not saying it was like an inch away from like this guy's head getting clocked by the nozzle. 00:21:07.520 --> 00:21:11.080 Everybody's watching, it's freaking out, the tension provided. 00:21:11.860 --> 00:21:13.240 And it was awesome. 00:21:13.600 --> 00:21:18.340 Just even the response, people seeing that, half the people were like, you can't do that. 00:21:18.400 --> 00:21:19.760 They got to get baptized in a church. 00:21:20.040 --> 00:21:22.600 The other half of the people, that's the coolest thing I've ever seen. 00:21:22.660 --> 00:21:28.620 We're baptizing people in another city, in another state, you know, in a bathtub. 00:21:28.740 --> 00:21:29.500 This is incredible. 00:21:29.760 --> 00:21:37.040 So celebrate those stories because I'm sure it'll cause a lot of conversations even within your organization afterwards. 00:21:37.180 --> 00:21:39.560 Hey, I want to pull another thread here, Ben. 00:21:39.840 --> 00:21:45.000 We're talking about these, and both you, Ray, we're talking about this website, you know, that you would share. 00:21:45.140 --> 00:21:46.860 It's cfmiami.org slash share. 00:21:47.220 --> 00:21:48.440 So here's the tension. 00:21:48.440 --> 00:21:54.760 Your multiple campuses, your multi-site church, 567, whatever the magic number is. 00:21:54.840 --> 00:21:56.460 I know it's changing because of COVID. 00:21:57.440 --> 00:22:00.760 So this is what you are, multi-site campuses and online. 00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:03.520 Do you communicate physical only? 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:05.240 Do you visit all of the campuses? 00:22:05.420 --> 00:22:08.320 Do you communicate online times as well? 00:22:08.800 --> 00:22:13.180 Do you, like, what's the, where are even like digital invites that are created? 00:22:13.380 --> 00:22:16.440 Are you listing physical times with online times separate? 00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:21.560 How many online services are you doing this Easter compared to physical? 00:22:21.700 --> 00:22:25.120 Like, just kind of maybe unpack a little bit what that looks like. 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:26.900 Great question. 00:22:27.120 --> 00:22:28.640 We currently do that. 00:22:28.800 --> 00:22:34.400 We currently create the invites based upon our campuses with online attached to all that. 00:22:34.840 --> 00:22:39.300 So we're finding that, again, people have affinity to their campuses. 00:22:39.760 --> 00:22:43.420 And so we've made special ones for each of our campuses in particular. 00:22:43.880 --> 00:22:48.640 And then, but coupled with that is, hey, I don't know how, I don't know how you are attending at your campus. 00:22:49.020 --> 00:22:52.240 You may, you know, attend the Redland campus or you may attend online. 00:22:52.360 --> 00:22:54.880 So both of those are on there in particular. 00:22:55.080 --> 00:23:02.940 That also just really helps play up the fact that we are one church at many locations, just allowing those campuses to feel like their own thing. 00:23:03.280 --> 00:23:04.060 And then, you know, call that out. 00:23:04.140 --> 00:23:07.840 Whenever you have a multi-site church, you have your, you usually have your broadcast campus. 00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:12.740 And then you have your other campuses, which can make the big brother, little brother syndrome feel real. 00:23:12.960 --> 00:23:18.500 And so for us to do, to help avoid that, we make particular invite cards, which is fairly easy. 00:23:18.560 --> 00:23:19.160 It's cut and paste. 00:23:19.480 --> 00:23:20.380 We change the title. 00:23:20.820 --> 00:23:23.800 But then it lets, really lets that campus feel like, hey, we are our own thing. 00:23:23.980 --> 00:23:25.780 We are acknowledged uniquely. 00:23:25.900 --> 00:23:29.620 And we're not just absorbed into the borg of the whole organization. 00:23:29.820 --> 00:23:32.180 We are still our particular campus. 00:23:32.320 --> 00:23:32.580 Yay. 00:23:32.740 --> 00:23:34.520 And that really gives a lot of ownership there. 00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:36.520 That's true. 00:23:37.300 --> 00:23:37.660 Yeah. 00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:40.640 And it's a big deal just to make sure and arm our people with the invites. 00:23:40.840 --> 00:23:44.260 You know, so often our folks have to come to church to pick up an invite. 00:23:44.280 --> 00:23:47.680 When you think of physical invites, with digital invites, they can get them wherever they're at. 00:23:47.740 --> 00:23:48.300 They're accessible. 00:23:48.540 --> 00:23:54.300 And especially in a time where somebody is not necessarily going to want to pass a piece of paper to somebody else, especially somebody they don't know. 00:23:54.300 --> 00:23:55.680 But they will text something to them. 00:23:56.100 --> 00:23:58.680 And it has far greater reach digitally than it does physically. 00:23:59.240 --> 00:24:00.920 And then it helps save on cost, too. 00:24:01.020 --> 00:24:14.000 I mean, for those of you churches that you take a look at the cost of printing and you think about all that, really, your folks have a lot more capabilities by posting something in their Instagram stories that will guaranteed get viewed by hundreds of people as opposed to the limitations of one physical invite. 00:24:14.460 --> 00:24:20.120 And so the reach that we can have by giving our folks the option to share things digitally, it's just in mass. 00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:20.560 It's huge. 00:24:20.620 --> 00:24:21.040 It's awesome. 00:24:21.040 --> 00:24:28.140 But the biggest thing is educating your people on how to be digital evangelists and making sure that they're aware that the tools exist and how to get there. 00:24:28.260 --> 00:24:31.360 So creating a simple tool like share just gives us that capability. 00:24:31.640 --> 00:24:35.160 And our job then is to make sure that it's fresh as much as possible. 00:24:35.960 --> 00:24:36.100 Yeah. 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:44.040 And so just even to reiterate, you guys keep that share site, that share language, that page, landing page. 00:24:44.100 --> 00:24:45.740 That's 24-7, 365. 00:24:46.120 --> 00:24:47.860 You just refresh it with the current series. 00:24:48.420 --> 00:24:49.100 That's golden. 00:24:49.100 --> 00:24:53.360 Because now you're building that shareability culture within your church. 00:24:53.360 --> 00:24:56.620 Just go there, grab the resources, connect with it. 00:24:56.800 --> 00:24:58.020 You know, and it's interesting. 00:24:58.640 --> 00:25:05.460 You know, even Barna was talking about how the ability for individuals to invite, to bring into services. 00:25:05.680 --> 00:25:14.020 If our services are going to have lasting impact to people who are called to Christ, it's going to be through people that are bringing them along into it. 00:25:14.080 --> 00:25:18.340 It's not, as a standalone, people called to Christ aren't interested in church services. 00:25:18.340 --> 00:25:21.720 They're not interested online or physical. 00:25:22.180 --> 00:25:29.140 But having a friend in that process, a relationship, bringing it along has far more better value towards it. 00:25:29.140 --> 00:25:34.220 And so creating that share culture, like what they're doing here, is golden long-term. 00:25:34.420 --> 00:25:36.080 So, hey, this has been a great conversation. 00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:42.300 And we can sit here and talk about how good Ray's Mandalorian hat looks on me at a later time. 00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:49.420 But, hey, so maybe even just as we're landing the plane here, Ben, any closing thoughts? 00:25:50.380 --> 00:25:50.960 Yeah, two. 00:25:51.320 --> 00:25:55.820 I knew we wouldn't be able to get all the content we wanted into this short conversation. 00:25:55.820 --> 00:26:00.140 So I provided additional free resources at planeaster.com. 00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:04.760 If you guys visit that now, Plan Easter, it's not hidden behind a paywall or even an email sign-up. 00:26:04.840 --> 00:26:05.900 Just free. 00:26:06.260 --> 00:26:11.100 And I believe on that list of resources, there may even be a reference to the digital church. 00:26:11.520 --> 00:26:13.340 So visit that, planeaster.com. 00:26:13.380 --> 00:26:19.180 And then the last thing I like to say is try to – we've talked about planning and promoting Easter. 00:26:19.660 --> 00:26:21.600 Don't forget to pray over Easter. 00:26:21.880 --> 00:26:25.340 And I don't think this needs to be a third, a third, a third in terms of your times. 00:26:26.180 --> 00:26:27.520 But I will say this. 00:26:27.620 --> 00:26:35.720 In terms of what gets kind of neglected in how I do Easter is usually that last one, the prayer. 00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:42.100 And so we can do all our cool online digital promoting and planning for a great digital experience. 00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:44.540 But are we praying over that digitally as well? 00:26:45.060 --> 00:26:47.740 And if not, we're not going to see the blessing that we want from God. 00:26:47.740 --> 00:26:51.460 And so that's my last challenge for all the incredible church leaders listening right now. 00:26:51.980 --> 00:26:52.300 That's good. 00:26:52.600 --> 00:26:54.700 Ben, can I – because you're so good about that every year. 00:26:54.760 --> 00:26:56.300 You tell us to pray, to plan. 00:26:57.020 --> 00:26:58.460 And I'm sorry, what was the last P? 00:26:58.780 --> 00:26:59.880 Like I'm slipping right now. 00:27:00.020 --> 00:27:02.240 It was pray, plan, promote, and pray. 00:27:02.660 --> 00:27:02.800 Yeah. 00:27:02.940 --> 00:27:05.100 For me, can we personalize Easter as well? 00:27:05.140 --> 00:27:09.460 Because I feel like as a church leader so often, I think about just sharing the invite on my social. 00:27:09.620 --> 00:27:16.840 But personalizing in the sense of, man, who is that one individual in my family, in my life that I'm going to invite as well? 00:27:16.840 --> 00:27:20.300 I think so often as church staff, we think, man, let's resource the people and let them go. 00:27:20.360 --> 00:27:27.140 But not even think about personalizing it in the sense of, man, my neighbor, my friend, that person that's next to me that needs to know Jesus. 00:27:27.320 --> 00:27:28.900 Who am I bringing with me as well? 00:27:30.260 --> 00:27:30.440 Yeah. 00:27:30.740 --> 00:27:31.100 Awesome. 00:27:31.600 --> 00:27:33.900 So, hey, we're going to – I love that in real time. 00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:37.060 Plan, promote, personalize, and pray. 00:27:37.220 --> 00:27:43.720 So, hey, audience out there, thanks for joining in and jumping here on another beta show here with the Church Digital. 00:27:44.140 --> 00:27:50.360 By the way, hey, just in closing, Stadia is launching another set of digital learning communities here in 2021. 00:27:50.620 --> 00:27:52.820 For more information on that, swing over. 00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:54.800 I'm totally making up words here. 00:27:54.800 --> 00:28:00.940 Once again, Stadia, which actually is the actual name of the organization, not a made-up word, stadiatchurchplanning.org. 00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:03.920 And, no, we're not the gaming organization of Google. 00:28:04.060 --> 00:28:05.000 I do get that a lot too. 00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:11.040 Stadiaplanning.org slash Fidgetal for more information on that there. 00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:18.460 So, hey, for Ben, for Ray, this is Jeff with the Church Digital and Stadia Church Planning. 00:28:18.820 --> 00:28:22.400 Thanks for joining us here on the show. 00:28:22.460 --> 00:28:23.800 And we'll see you next time here at the beta show. 00:28:24.060 --> 00:28:24.440 Y'all have a good day. 00:28:24.760 --> 00:28:25.160 Plantaneous. 00:28:25.620 --> 00:28:26.340 Plantaneous, y'all.