WEBVTT 00:00:01.000 --> 00:00:04.280 All right, welcome to The Beta Show, episode 31. 00:00:04.480 --> 00:00:07.260 Hey, this is Jeff with the Church Digital Podcast. 00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:09.240 Once again, it's powered by Stadia Church Planting. 00:00:09.620 --> 00:00:14.180 Hey, this is the vacation edition of The Beta Show. 00:00:14.360 --> 00:00:15.900 I'm actually on vacation right now. 00:00:16.260 --> 00:00:20.120 Through the magic of pre-recording in SimLive, 00:00:20.380 --> 00:00:21.580 I am joining you guys. 00:00:22.300 --> 00:00:24.800 SimLive, from the internet right now, 00:00:24.860 --> 00:00:28.040 I'm actually sitting back on this Thursday afternoon, 00:00:28.040 --> 00:00:31.300 probably sitting on the beach somewhere around Central Florida. 00:00:31.460 --> 00:00:33.420 My family and I, we're going to go check out NASA, 00:00:33.920 --> 00:00:36.920 the launch center up there, and it's going to be a great time. 00:00:36.980 --> 00:00:39.280 But before I went away on vacation, it was like, 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:41.640 hey, let me at least record this session, 00:00:41.660 --> 00:00:44.460 and we can SimLive it so that the people at home, 00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:46.880 wherever they are, can enjoy the greatness 00:00:46.880 --> 00:00:50.340 of Talking Digital Church here in this season. 00:00:50.460 --> 00:00:51.840 Remember, with The Beta Show, 00:00:52.300 --> 00:00:56.260 we are answering your digital ministry questions, 00:00:56.260 --> 00:01:00.160 so text them in, 484-324-8724. 00:01:00.340 --> 00:01:03.040 Yes, that is actually my cell phone number. 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:06.020 And so if you really want to call me on vacation, 00:01:06.300 --> 00:01:06.720 guess what? 00:01:06.960 --> 00:01:09.380 I literally just gave you my cell phone number, 00:01:09.500 --> 00:01:11.420 and I'm taking it with me on vacation, 00:01:11.560 --> 00:01:14.520 484-324-8724. 00:01:14.640 --> 00:01:17.020 The Beta Show is broadcast live, 00:01:17.020 --> 00:01:18.780 as you know if you're watching this on social media, 00:01:18.880 --> 00:01:21.040 every Thursday, noon Eastern. 00:01:21.040 --> 00:01:24.860 It's on Facebook, facebook.com slash thechurchdigital. 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:26.780 And of course, it's on YouTube as well, 00:01:26.880 --> 00:01:30.180 youtube.com slash thechurchdigital. 00:01:30.260 --> 00:01:33.220 Normally, I would invite you guys to chat with us live, 00:01:33.260 --> 00:01:34.060 and actually, you know what, I will. 00:01:34.140 --> 00:01:35.500 Go ahead and throw your questions in 00:01:35.500 --> 00:01:37.540 and comments in on the social media platform 00:01:37.540 --> 00:01:39.040 you're currently watching in. 00:01:39.600 --> 00:01:42.260 Hey, this is SimLive, so this is simulated live. 00:01:42.600 --> 00:01:45.640 I am not actually answering these things in real time. 00:01:45.940 --> 00:01:49.020 That being said, I'll be glad to engage with this stuff 00:01:49.020 --> 00:01:50.600 when I get back from vacation 00:01:50.600 --> 00:01:52.580 and happily answer any questions 00:01:52.580 --> 00:01:54.300 or comment on any thoughts you guys throw 00:01:54.300 --> 00:01:56.080 in on social media. 00:01:56.180 --> 00:01:59.300 Next week, we are talking about four examples. 00:01:59.440 --> 00:02:01.420 That's one, two, three, four different examples 00:02:01.420 --> 00:02:03.120 of digital-only churches. 00:02:03.460 --> 00:02:05.320 And so, share some examples of that 00:02:05.320 --> 00:02:07.280 and give some testimonies to what's happening. 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:09.900 But for this week, we're Beta 31. 00:02:10.280 --> 00:02:12.460 The differences between a digital broadcast, 00:02:12.920 --> 00:02:14.580 digital discipleship, digital campus, 00:02:15.060 --> 00:02:16.620 and digital church. 00:02:16.720 --> 00:02:19.060 So often, and this, yes, okay, look, 00:02:19.140 --> 00:02:19.980 I'll confess here. 00:02:20.200 --> 00:02:22.560 There may be a little bit of nuancing here. 00:02:22.760 --> 00:02:25.040 Maybe a fine line of difference between it, 00:02:25.120 --> 00:02:28.300 but within those nuances comes a lot of intentionality 00:02:28.300 --> 00:02:30.320 that will really get us to the heart 00:02:30.320 --> 00:02:33.040 of being effective in digital space. 00:02:33.160 --> 00:02:35.820 So, this is the heart of what we're trying to do here. 00:02:35.900 --> 00:02:37.520 Let's recognize, I would challenge you, 00:02:37.940 --> 00:02:40.120 churches that are out here listening to this conversation, 00:02:40.500 --> 00:02:44.080 let's recognize who you are and who you are not. 00:02:44.160 --> 00:02:45.360 And maybe there's some next steps 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:47.740 that we need to take in this season 00:02:47.740 --> 00:02:51.000 to help your church progress digitally. 00:02:51.420 --> 00:02:52.820 Even as we're going back to the building, 00:02:52.920 --> 00:02:55.160 even as that emphasis is happening in physical space, 00:02:55.160 --> 00:02:57.580 I still think there's bonuses, there's benefits, 00:02:57.960 --> 00:02:59.800 there's purposes to doing this stuff 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:01.640 digitally as well. 00:03:01.780 --> 00:03:02.400 Well, here we go. 00:03:02.640 --> 00:03:05.000 The four, we've got number one here, 00:03:05.480 --> 00:03:06.860 digital broadcast. 00:03:07.060 --> 00:03:09.220 So, essentially, a digital broadcast 00:03:09.220 --> 00:03:14.640 is the broadcasting of the church experience online. 00:03:14.760 --> 00:03:17.360 Essentially, if you're the typical church, 00:03:17.440 --> 00:03:19.200 it's that one hour on Sunday. 00:03:19.340 --> 00:03:21.280 You're doing that in physical space, 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:25.840 and you're broadcasting that service online digitally. 00:03:26.180 --> 00:03:29.460 Now, in this season, there are churches that are considering shutting down 00:03:29.460 --> 00:03:32.060 the physical broadcast, the digital broadcast, 00:03:32.060 --> 00:03:34.420 because they want more emphasis. 00:03:34.420 --> 00:03:35.740 They don't want people being lazy. 00:03:35.860 --> 00:03:37.320 They want people to come back to the building. 00:03:37.880 --> 00:03:39.640 Listen, and that may be a strategy. 00:03:39.740 --> 00:03:40.520 That may be a good strategy. 00:03:40.600 --> 00:03:41.700 That may be a bad strategy. 00:03:41.960 --> 00:03:44.500 For the majority of you, maybe it's too soon to tell. 00:03:44.860 --> 00:03:48.280 But at the heart of this, broadcasting those services 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:51.460 is a great step. 00:03:51.740 --> 00:03:53.960 It's the first part of something. 00:03:54.060 --> 00:03:56.460 Now, for many of you, you stop there, 00:03:56.580 --> 00:03:58.760 and that's where this gets dangerous, 00:03:58.760 --> 00:04:01.500 because if the only thing you're doing is broadcasting services, 00:04:01.500 --> 00:04:04.080 and you're not doing any digital discipleship, 00:04:04.180 --> 00:04:07.660 or you're not using—people are not coming back to the building 00:04:07.660 --> 00:04:08.960 to get discipled, 00:04:09.020 --> 00:04:13.140 this is where digital broadcasting of church services 00:04:13.140 --> 00:04:19.760 gets to this place of being a—it's a content that's being consumed. 00:04:20.060 --> 00:04:21.700 We're creating consumers. 00:04:21.700 --> 00:04:24.180 We're not creating disciple-makers. 00:04:24.180 --> 00:04:27.780 And so the ecclesiology of a church, Acts 2, 00:04:27.820 --> 00:04:31.460 is not just grounded in our weekly experiences. 00:04:31.580 --> 00:04:33.800 If you read Acts 2, 36 through 47, 00:04:34.080 --> 00:04:38.400 you're not getting this experience of haze machines and lights. 00:04:38.440 --> 00:04:39.500 By the way, I'm a production guy. 00:04:39.740 --> 00:04:41.160 I'm totally making fun of myself here. 00:04:41.400 --> 00:04:45.360 But what we consider church is more than that. 00:04:45.460 --> 00:04:47.820 So if you're doing the digital broadcast, 00:04:48.320 --> 00:04:49.480 and that's all you're doing, 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:50.840 ask yourself this question, 00:04:51.380 --> 00:04:53.640 what happens next? 00:04:53.980 --> 00:04:56.820 Are you trying to drive people back to the physical building? 00:04:56.920 --> 00:04:58.440 And if you are, great. 00:04:58.740 --> 00:04:59.440 Is it effective? 00:04:59.920 --> 00:05:03.180 If you are not trying to drive them back to the building, 00:05:03.380 --> 00:05:06.980 this kind of gets into what I want to talk about next. 00:05:07.400 --> 00:05:12.500 I think you should consider exploring this idea of digital discipleship. 00:05:12.640 --> 00:05:14.120 So like we said earlier, 00:05:14.320 --> 00:05:15.100 Matthew 28, 00:05:15.200 --> 00:05:18.120 go and make disciples of all nations. 00:05:18.460 --> 00:05:21.360 Well, what does it look like for your church, 00:05:21.740 --> 00:05:23.780 for your existing physical church 00:05:23.780 --> 00:05:24.640 to make disciples? 00:05:24.640 --> 00:05:27.400 Is that happening in the digital space? 00:05:27.400 --> 00:05:29.020 Is it happening in the physical space? 00:05:29.160 --> 00:05:30.540 Is it small groups? 00:05:30.620 --> 00:05:34.080 Is it one-on-one or individual disciple making? 00:05:34.340 --> 00:05:36.200 Like where do we teach evangelism, 00:05:36.660 --> 00:05:37.100 multiplication? 00:05:37.580 --> 00:05:40.340 Where do we really get into the depth 00:05:40.340 --> 00:05:42.040 so that people have the capacity 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:43.640 to multiply? 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:46.340 And is that multiplication really happening? 00:05:46.340 --> 00:05:47.620 Once again, 00:05:47.620 --> 00:05:50.120 through our digital discipleship, 00:05:50.220 --> 00:05:54.380 are we just creating opportunities for content, 00:05:54.760 --> 00:05:56.480 for people to consume content? 00:05:56.820 --> 00:06:00.580 Are we creating opportunities for knowledge to be learned? 00:06:01.140 --> 00:06:02.700 And are we larger than that? 00:06:02.700 --> 00:06:06.260 Are we even giving them opportunities and challenging them 00:06:06.260 --> 00:06:09.200 and encouraging them to go out 00:06:09.200 --> 00:06:12.540 and multiply and reproduce and share with somebody else 00:06:12.540 --> 00:06:15.280 to put that knowledge to work, 00:06:15.280 --> 00:06:17.240 not just for the benefit of oneself, 00:06:17.240 --> 00:06:20.040 but to help and have conversations 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:22.340 as people are having spiritual questions 00:06:22.340 --> 00:06:24.220 in other opportunities. 00:06:24.220 --> 00:06:26.840 This is the heart of what we wanted to talk about 00:06:26.840 --> 00:06:28.180 here with this conversation. 00:06:28.540 --> 00:06:30.860 Look, the strength of digital, 00:06:31.380 --> 00:06:32.100 believe it or not, 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:34.000 really does lean towards this idea 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:35.700 of digital discipleship. 00:06:35.960 --> 00:06:38.040 The strength of digital is equipping. 00:06:38.580 --> 00:06:40.680 We're creating learning opportunities 00:06:40.680 --> 00:06:43.320 and there's community opportunities as well 00:06:43.320 --> 00:06:46.780 that gives us a chance to encourage others 00:06:46.780 --> 00:06:48.680 to have those conversations. 00:06:48.900 --> 00:06:50.860 This works in digital space. 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:51.400 Honestly, 00:06:51.780 --> 00:06:53.700 the equipping portion is the strength 00:06:53.700 --> 00:06:55.560 compared to even the idea 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:57.880 of creating the content and the reach 00:06:57.880 --> 00:06:59.200 because there's so much content. 00:06:59.540 --> 00:07:00.820 It's really the community. 00:07:01.340 --> 00:07:03.180 It's that engagement piece. 00:07:03.180 --> 00:07:05.280 It's really this equipping piece 00:07:05.280 --> 00:07:07.900 that gives churches an opportunity 00:07:07.900 --> 00:07:09.840 to stand out digitally 00:07:09.840 --> 00:07:13.180 because it's working relationally. 00:07:13.700 --> 00:07:15.340 Yet the majority of churches, 00:07:15.520 --> 00:07:17.580 it seems for whatever reason, 00:07:17.900 --> 00:07:20.160 are not interested in using digital 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:21.380 for disciple-making. 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:23.860 They want to broadcast the services, 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:25.260 but when it comes towards 00:07:25.260 --> 00:07:26.340 creating communities, 00:07:26.500 --> 00:07:27.520 creating small groups, 00:07:27.940 --> 00:07:29.380 unleashing people in digital space, 00:07:29.460 --> 00:07:32.220 there's this weird aura, 00:07:32.400 --> 00:07:33.420 this weird reaction of, 00:07:33.520 --> 00:07:35.280 no, that's only reserved for physically. 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:37.440 We can't do that digitally. 00:07:38.400 --> 00:07:40.400 And so whatever your opinion is, 00:07:40.420 --> 00:07:41.260 is what I would suggest 00:07:41.260 --> 00:07:42.360 if digital church, 00:07:42.400 --> 00:07:44.700 you should consider integrating digital 00:07:44.700 --> 00:07:46.100 into your disciple-making. 00:07:46.300 --> 00:07:47.580 You're not really a big fan 00:07:47.580 --> 00:07:49.120 of broadcasting the services online. 00:07:49.340 --> 00:07:50.020 That's great. 00:07:50.140 --> 00:07:52.260 I've been quoted recently as saying, 00:07:52.640 --> 00:07:53.140 hey, churches, 00:07:53.260 --> 00:07:54.760 we should stop broadcasting 00:07:54.760 --> 00:07:56.560 our church services entirely. 00:07:56.760 --> 00:07:58.360 If you only do one thing digitally, 00:07:58.920 --> 00:08:00.320 focus on discipleship. 00:08:00.860 --> 00:08:03.100 Broadcasting services creates consumers. 00:08:03.340 --> 00:08:04.800 It leans that way. 00:08:05.780 --> 00:08:07.620 Relationships that are developed digitally, 00:08:07.900 --> 00:08:08.860 those stick. 00:08:09.300 --> 00:08:10.620 And through those relationships, 00:08:10.620 --> 00:08:14.040 we see disciples being made. 00:08:14.260 --> 00:08:15.260 That's the challenge 00:08:15.260 --> 00:08:16.760 I want to give to you today. 00:08:17.460 --> 00:08:18.080 All right, look here. 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:18.940 Number three here. 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:20.900 So first was a digital experience, 00:08:20.960 --> 00:08:21.680 a digital broadcast. 00:08:22.140 --> 00:08:22.840 Number two here, 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:23.820 digital discipleship. 00:08:23.900 --> 00:08:24.680 Number three, 00:08:25.060 --> 00:08:27.900 this idea of a digital campus. 00:08:27.960 --> 00:08:28.640 So essentially, 00:08:29.200 --> 00:08:30.200 here's what I'm saying. 00:08:30.440 --> 00:08:32.920 If you're combining the church experience 00:08:32.920 --> 00:08:35.620 and you're combining digital discipleship 00:08:35.620 --> 00:08:36.800 and putting it together, 00:08:37.340 --> 00:08:38.780 well, now your church is operating 00:08:38.780 --> 00:08:40.540 more like a church 00:08:40.540 --> 00:08:41.760 in digital space. 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:44.440 It's operating more like that campus. 00:08:44.780 --> 00:08:45.840 Digital is becoming 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:48.940 more of like a fully functioning church. 00:08:48.940 --> 00:08:51.700 because if you're able to do discipleship 00:08:51.700 --> 00:08:54.500 and experience in the physical space 00:08:54.500 --> 00:08:55.740 and you're calling that a church, 00:08:56.060 --> 00:08:57.120 well, then arguably, 00:08:57.320 --> 00:08:59.160 now that you're doing those things digitally, 00:08:59.560 --> 00:09:01.340 it's starting to operate more like a church 00:09:01.340 --> 00:09:04.600 or at least more like a campus would. 00:09:05.160 --> 00:09:06.840 Here's the challenge I would throw at you. 00:09:06.920 --> 00:09:09.460 Don't call yourself a digital campus 00:09:09.460 --> 00:09:13.080 if your goal is to drive people to a building. 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:15.720 So often I hear this phrase of, 00:09:16.100 --> 00:09:18.420 you know, we're a digital campus, 00:09:18.420 --> 00:09:19.220 we're a digital church 00:09:19.220 --> 00:09:20.120 or a digital church 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:22.100 when really what you're trying to do 00:09:22.100 --> 00:09:22.980 is drive people 00:09:22.980 --> 00:09:24.480 back to the physical building. 00:09:24.640 --> 00:09:26.220 If you're not doing discipleship, 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:28.540 if you're not helping people 00:09:28.540 --> 00:09:30.840 develop spiritually in digital space, 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:33.340 recognize that you're really 00:09:33.340 --> 00:09:34.760 a digital front door. 00:09:35.160 --> 00:09:37.140 You're not a digital campus. 00:09:37.400 --> 00:09:38.900 You're not a digital church. 00:09:39.160 --> 00:09:40.480 And this isn't bad. 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:43.080 But don't set up the illusion 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:44.740 that you are creating 00:09:44.740 --> 00:09:47.180 a church experience digitally, 00:09:47.180 --> 00:09:50.240 a fully functioning church digitally. 00:09:50.560 --> 00:09:51.880 All you're giving people, 00:09:51.980 --> 00:09:53.560 if you're not doing the discipleship, 00:09:53.660 --> 00:09:54.860 is an experience. 00:09:55.060 --> 00:09:56.700 You're setting up that, you know, 00:09:56.780 --> 00:09:58.340 camera in the back 00:09:58.340 --> 00:10:00.460 so people can stay tapped into the message 00:10:00.460 --> 00:10:03.140 so that they can enjoy the musical worship, 00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:04.520 maybe so even that they can 00:10:04.520 --> 00:10:08.620 do church at home with their kids. 00:10:08.960 --> 00:10:11.140 And this may not be a bad thing, 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:14.060 but it's not a fully functioning church 00:10:14.060 --> 00:10:15.920 according to the ecclesiology, 00:10:16.160 --> 00:10:17.560 according to the biblical functions 00:10:17.560 --> 00:10:19.000 of what we see that God calls 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:20.380 the church to be. 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:21.680 So understand 00:10:21.680 --> 00:10:23.540 that you're a front door. 00:10:23.760 --> 00:10:24.860 And the front door may be 00:10:24.860 --> 00:10:26.280 the right strategy for you, 00:10:26.340 --> 00:10:28.720 but don't oversell what you're doing 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:30.700 by trying to set yourself up 00:10:30.700 --> 00:10:33.160 to be something else. 00:10:33.300 --> 00:10:35.700 There's validity in both models. 00:10:36.220 --> 00:10:37.760 Both lean on the broadcast. 00:10:37.920 --> 00:10:39.360 The broadcast is important, 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:42.040 but that discipleship is key. 00:10:42.040 --> 00:10:45.580 It is crucial for where we want to go 00:10:45.580 --> 00:10:48.760 if we are being that fully functioning 00:10:48.760 --> 00:10:50.600 digital campus. 00:10:51.340 --> 00:10:51.560 All right. 00:10:51.720 --> 00:10:52.720 And once again, 00:10:52.780 --> 00:10:55.260 that's leaning on the stream. 00:10:55.380 --> 00:10:57.720 It's leaning on that broadcast piece. 00:10:58.220 --> 00:10:59.060 Number four here, 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:01.680 digital only church. 00:11:02.180 --> 00:11:03.360 Who needs a building? 00:11:03.900 --> 00:11:05.060 Who needs to broadcast 00:11:05.060 --> 00:11:07.880 that live service on Sunday morning? 00:11:08.520 --> 00:11:08.960 Who's got, 00:11:09.060 --> 00:11:11.660 we don't have that in a digital church. 00:11:11.920 --> 00:11:14.060 A digital only expression of church, 00:11:14.120 --> 00:11:14.280 you know, 00:11:14.340 --> 00:11:16.540 I'm kind of adding the word only here 00:11:16.540 --> 00:11:18.060 to get it to stand out, 00:11:18.060 --> 00:11:20.120 is essentially a church 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:21.640 without a physical footprint. 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:23.620 I don't have a worship center 00:11:23.620 --> 00:11:25.260 for 1,300 people 00:11:25.260 --> 00:11:26.340 in a stage 00:11:26.340 --> 00:11:29.280 with five awesome Panasonic varicams 00:11:29.280 --> 00:11:31.020 to broadcast the service. 00:11:31.220 --> 00:11:33.500 I don't have those resources. 00:11:34.160 --> 00:11:35.160 And what's fortunate 00:11:35.160 --> 00:11:36.380 with digital only churches, 00:11:36.520 --> 00:11:38.840 they don't need those resources. 00:11:39.040 --> 00:11:40.300 There's ways to be 00:11:40.300 --> 00:11:43.160 a digital only expression of church 00:11:43.160 --> 00:11:45.220 without having the resources 00:11:45.220 --> 00:11:46.140 of a building 00:11:46.140 --> 00:11:47.380 or a massive stage 00:11:47.380 --> 00:11:50.580 or massive financial resources, 00:11:50.740 --> 00:11:51.240 AVL, 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:52.160 things like that. 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:53.840 Because at the heart of it, 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:56.040 what a digital only church is, 00:11:56.340 --> 00:11:58.400 is it looks at the ecclesiology, 00:11:58.520 --> 00:11:59.380 the biblical functions, 00:11:59.480 --> 00:12:01.340 it looks at starting with Acts 2, 00:12:01.780 --> 00:12:04.240 and it reimagines it contextually. 00:12:04.340 --> 00:12:06.240 This is not throwing away the Bible 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:07.620 and doing something radical. 00:12:07.860 --> 00:12:10.160 This is reinterpreting the Bible 00:12:10.160 --> 00:12:13.360 in context with the digital communities 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:14.580 that we're going in. 00:12:14.580 --> 00:12:16.800 And so we're talking about virtual reality 00:12:16.800 --> 00:12:21.480 and video games and Twitch, 00:12:21.820 --> 00:12:23.440 maybe even contextualizing it 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:24.400 for our communities, 00:12:24.400 --> 00:12:26.940 for the people that we're trying to reach 00:12:26.940 --> 00:12:29.280 and shaping the message for them, 00:12:29.380 --> 00:12:30.680 trying to get them to own it, 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:31.400 to replicate it, 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:32.120 to tell others. 00:12:32.620 --> 00:12:34.160 And so there's strengths 00:12:34.160 --> 00:12:34.940 and there's weaknesses. 00:12:34.940 --> 00:12:36.000 Let's call it what it is. 00:12:36.040 --> 00:12:36.400 There's strengths 00:12:36.400 --> 00:12:37.100 and there's weaknesses 00:12:37.100 --> 00:12:38.640 towards this idea 00:12:38.640 --> 00:12:42.700 of doing a digital only expression of church. 00:12:42.700 --> 00:12:44.480 But the idea here 00:12:44.480 --> 00:12:47.400 is that it's not moving away from the Bible. 00:12:47.660 --> 00:12:51.180 It's reimagining it in digital space. 00:12:51.740 --> 00:12:54.700 And rather than building everything around 00:12:54.700 --> 00:12:57.560 what is happening in a physical building 00:12:57.560 --> 00:13:00.640 and then trying to cram that square peg 00:13:00.640 --> 00:13:03.640 into a round hole of the digital space, 00:13:03.800 --> 00:13:05.240 what it is doing, 00:13:05.340 --> 00:13:06.900 it's not limited. 00:13:07.380 --> 00:13:09.220 It doesn't have the roof, the ceiling. 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:12.840 It is trying to create that round peg 00:13:12.840 --> 00:13:16.280 that's going to go in that round hole 00:13:16.280 --> 00:13:17.300 that is digital. 00:13:17.700 --> 00:13:19.640 So it's not a limitation. 00:13:19.640 --> 00:13:22.600 It's actually an opportunity to recognize, 00:13:23.060 --> 00:13:25.380 hey, we can do something different digitally. 00:13:25.620 --> 00:13:27.460 We're not limited to what's happening. 00:13:27.560 --> 00:13:29.120 In the physical space. 00:13:29.580 --> 00:13:31.720 By the way, you know, talking crazy here, 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:34.020 Stadia is looking to work 00:13:34.020 --> 00:13:35.620 with digital only church planters. 00:13:36.060 --> 00:13:37.360 Just in a couple of weeks, 00:13:37.460 --> 00:13:38.580 I am starting a cohort 00:13:38.580 --> 00:13:41.800 with a number of digital only church planters 00:13:41.800 --> 00:13:43.160 exploring this space. 00:13:43.560 --> 00:13:44.600 And so if you're interested 00:13:44.600 --> 00:13:45.820 in having a conversation 00:13:45.820 --> 00:13:48.660 about what digital only church planting 00:13:48.660 --> 00:13:49.880 could look like starting 00:13:49.880 --> 00:13:53.280 and running a church in digital space 00:13:53.280 --> 00:13:54.820 completely from scratch, 00:13:54.820 --> 00:13:57.540 go to stadiachurchplanting.org. 00:13:57.560 --> 00:14:00.660 By the way, 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:02.140 throwing on that same vein, 00:14:02.340 --> 00:14:05.020 Stadia is looking for established churches 00:14:05.020 --> 00:14:07.220 that are wanting to go multimodal. 00:14:07.280 --> 00:14:08.880 I'm looking for physical churches here 00:14:08.880 --> 00:14:10.420 that are wanting to plant 00:14:10.420 --> 00:14:12.760 a digital only church. 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:14.120 Once again, 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:15.100 like out of, 00:14:15.160 --> 00:14:15.840 completely separate. 00:14:15.940 --> 00:14:17.600 This is not broadcasting services. 00:14:18.020 --> 00:14:19.240 This is reimagining 00:14:19.240 --> 00:14:20.360 what church can be digitally. 00:14:20.800 --> 00:14:21.280 Believe it or not, 00:14:21.340 --> 00:14:21.780 there are churches 00:14:21.780 --> 00:14:23.500 that are wanting to do this, 00:14:23.540 --> 00:14:24.280 that are excited 00:14:24.280 --> 00:14:25.560 about being a part of this. 00:14:25.600 --> 00:14:26.580 I've got an experiment running 00:14:26.580 --> 00:14:27.460 with a number of churches 00:14:27.460 --> 00:14:29.080 here in the fall. 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:30.680 If you're wanting to be a part, 00:14:30.740 --> 00:14:31.640 you want more information, 00:14:31.760 --> 00:14:32.640 we can talk about it. 00:14:33.380 --> 00:14:35.200 stadiachurchplanning.org 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:36.200 slash digital, 00:14:36.420 --> 00:14:36.940 or excuse me, 00:14:36.980 --> 00:14:37.440 digital there. 00:14:37.680 --> 00:14:38.180 So, hey, 00:14:38.340 --> 00:14:39.740 you're wanting to do something from scratch, 00:14:39.740 --> 00:14:41.540 or maybe you're wanting, 00:14:41.620 --> 00:14:42.660 you're an established church 00:14:42.660 --> 00:14:44.580 that's wanting to experiment a little bit 00:14:44.580 --> 00:14:45.560 and do something different. 00:14:46.560 --> 00:14:48.000 stadiachurchplanning.org 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:49.940 slash digital. 00:14:50.300 --> 00:14:50.600 Well, hey, 00:14:50.640 --> 00:14:51.420 we're going to keep building 00:14:51.420 --> 00:14:52.800 on this digital theme 00:14:52.800 --> 00:14:53.760 next Thursday, 00:14:54.280 --> 00:14:55.360 noon Eastern. 00:14:55.560 --> 00:14:56.360 Four examples 00:14:56.360 --> 00:14:58.180 of digital only churches. 00:14:58.180 --> 00:14:59.220 I'm going to tell some stories. 00:14:59.300 --> 00:14:59.820 We're going to celebrate 00:14:59.820 --> 00:15:01.360 some things that are happening digitally. 00:15:01.560 --> 00:15:02.980 Going to encourage you guys 00:15:02.980 --> 00:15:05.100 to be a part of it. 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:05.540 So, hey, 00:15:05.660 --> 00:15:06.920 that is going to wrap 00:15:06.920 --> 00:15:08.360 episode 31 00:15:08.360 --> 00:15:09.660 of the beta show 00:15:09.660 --> 00:15:11.200 Vacation Edition. 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:12.040 Hey, this is Jeff 00:15:12.040 --> 00:15:13.260 with the Church Digital 00:15:13.260 --> 00:15:14.680 and with Stadia Church Planning. 00:15:14.820 --> 00:15:15.920 Thanks for jumping here 00:15:15.920 --> 00:15:16.720 on the beta show. 00:15:17.000 --> 00:15:17.920 We'll see you next time 00:15:17.920 --> 00:15:18.780 here at the show. 00:15:18.860 --> 00:15:19.340 Y'all have a good day.