WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.180 This is episode 33. Time's flying here. I'm Jeff with the Church Digital Podcast. 00:00:05.360 --> 00:00:08.660 Once again, as always, powered by Stadia Church Planting. 00:00:09.360 --> 00:00:16.060 And welcome to The Beta Show. Here on The Beta Show, we answer your digital ministry questions live on the air. 00:00:16.160 --> 00:00:24.220 So we do the show every Thursday. 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00:01:50.220 Oh, that would be fun. 00:01:50.280 --> 00:01:52.000 Let's do a TikTok church, see what that looks like. 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:56.920 But for today, we're going to be talking a lot about fidgetal. 00:01:57.020 --> 00:02:03.460 Now, in recent weeks, yes, I've been poked and prided a little bit, made fun a little bit about this word, fidgetal. 00:02:03.520 --> 00:02:07.000 And look, you know, and I've said it time and time again, I didn't make up the word. 00:02:07.520 --> 00:02:11.240 I'm just the guy who says, hey, church needs to think like fidgetal. 00:02:11.240 --> 00:02:17.240 And so, yes, Jay Crandez made fun of me recently saying that it sounds fidgetal, sounds like something from a horror movie. 00:02:17.720 --> 00:02:24.220 I can't tell you how many people have asked me to sing the Olivia Newton-John 80s pop hit, Let's Get Fidgetal. 00:02:24.820 --> 00:02:26.620 But we're not going to do that today. 00:02:26.680 --> 00:02:27.620 Let's get fidgetal. 00:02:27.740 --> 00:02:30.220 Okay, well, that's all you're going to get today of that. 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:36.760 Because at the heart of this, really, we need to remember that fidgetal is, I think it's different than hybrid. 00:02:36.760 --> 00:02:38.700 Hybrid is, hey, let's use both of it. 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:47.220 Fidgetal, maybe I'm nuancing here, but it's this opportunity to utilize the strengths and the physical, the strengths of digital, and find ways to get it to work together. 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:57.980 Not just shove an idea together and do it in physical and digital because you have to, but more of a nuance towards an intentional strategy to help the physical and the digital work together. 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:01.740 And by the way, Stadia has a dead set. 00:03:01.800 --> 00:03:03.200 You can see the logo behind me. 00:03:03.200 --> 00:03:07.980 We are excited to help churches learn to thrive, grow, and multiply physically and digitally. 00:03:08.220 --> 00:03:12.280 We, I mean, we literally own the trademark on Fidgetal Church. 00:03:12.500 --> 00:03:14.620 So, hey, we want to help you with that. 00:03:14.700 --> 00:03:17.560 Go to stadiachurchplanning.org slash Fidgetal. 00:03:17.560 --> 00:03:26.480 We've got cohorts starting here in the fall and plenty of opportunities for churches that are serious about digital, even in this new post-COVID society that we're walking into. 00:03:26.660 --> 00:03:33.000 Plenty of opportunities to connect with that, which really, really brings us here to the topic that we're going to talk about today with Beta 33. 00:03:33.660 --> 00:03:37.180 Five foundations of a Fidgetal Church. 00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:37.500 That's right. 00:03:37.580 --> 00:03:39.180 Five foundations of a Fidgetal Church. 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:42.520 If you're thinking about Fidgetal, how do you need to be thinking? 00:03:42.700 --> 00:03:45.720 What is the foundation that you're being built on? 00:03:46.020 --> 00:03:49.380 And so this is really the heart of what we're going to pull on in this episode today. 00:03:49.480 --> 00:03:52.420 Five foundations to be Fidgetal in your church. 00:03:52.480 --> 00:03:54.480 Number one here, let's just dive in. 00:03:54.700 --> 00:03:57.220 More about strategy, less about panic. 00:03:57.920 --> 00:03:58.420 This is funny. 00:03:58.500 --> 00:04:00.820 Someone else told me this, and I was like, oh, that's good. 00:04:00.900 --> 00:04:02.400 I totally want to explore that. 00:04:02.700 --> 00:04:14.820 If our move towards Fidgetal is more about, oh, my gosh, we've got to get everybody to the building, so we need to do digital as much as possible to drive people from digital back into physical, I mean, you're being led by fear. 00:04:14.820 --> 00:04:25.200 And so there's obvious some things maybe to work through and address, but at the end of that, you're going to put all this energy and effort into Fidgetal, and then you're going to abandon it at the end. 00:04:25.500 --> 00:04:34.820 Or you're not going to put the energy into digital that needs to happen, and as a result, it's not going to be effective in getting people back to the building. 00:04:35.440 --> 00:04:39.940 Our posture should not be we'll do anything possible to get people back to the building. 00:04:40.380 --> 00:04:44.340 We need to remember that buildings, just like digital, these are tools. 00:04:44.340 --> 00:04:51.020 The end game is not, and we've said this time and time again, it's not building, it's disciple-making. 00:04:51.220 --> 00:04:53.780 It's not digital, it's disciple-making. 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:55.860 It's go and make disciples, Matthew 28. 00:04:56.340 --> 00:04:58.440 And so let that be the challenge. 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:01.780 Tools, venues, these things don't matter. 00:05:02.460 --> 00:05:12.960 And so having that mindset up front, well, maybe you're doing more ministry right now in digital space than you even realize because you're stuck in the mindset of you've got to get them back in the building. 00:05:12.960 --> 00:05:16.920 Pastor, don't be afraid people are not currently in your building. 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:21.700 Be afraid they have no spiritual purpose when they're not in your building. 00:05:21.900 --> 00:05:23.120 That's the thing to fear. 00:05:23.220 --> 00:05:24.860 That's the thing to be frustrated about. 00:05:25.180 --> 00:05:28.200 And let's keep that in mind even moving forward. 00:05:28.400 --> 00:05:35.100 Fidgetal Church develops a strategy towards discipleship, towards disciple-making, towards multiplication. 00:05:35.780 --> 00:05:39.660 It's not about filling seats, but it's more about starting a movement. 00:05:39.780 --> 00:05:41.220 So be thinking more that way. 00:05:41.420 --> 00:05:45.960 It's much more about strategy than it is about panic and fear. 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:47.620 Well, let's swing into number two. 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:51.820 More about conversation, less about content. 00:05:52.480 --> 00:05:53.820 No, I lied here. 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:55.940 Actually, it's just like 2B is coming up also. 00:05:56.040 --> 00:05:58.520 So more about conversation, less about content. 00:05:58.700 --> 00:06:00.900 And at that same time, it's more about individuals. 00:06:01.320 --> 00:06:04.060 And it's less about masses. 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:12.660 It's very easy when you're looking at doing things in digital space to press play on that virtual VCR player, virtual DVD player. 00:06:12.880 --> 00:06:16.880 Send the video off to Restream.io, which sends it all over the place. 00:06:17.360 --> 00:06:18.900 And just, hey, it's done. 00:06:19.020 --> 00:06:21.040 I've reached thousands of people. 00:06:21.140 --> 00:06:22.540 Oh, my gosh, this is so easy. 00:06:22.660 --> 00:06:31.120 I can, like, be on vacation now because I played the sermon, and I can just sit back and relax poolside here for the summer. 00:06:31.380 --> 00:06:32.120 I wish. 00:06:32.700 --> 00:06:38.200 And sadly, I think that's some of the situation where maybe we were digitally because some churches were thinking that. 00:06:38.260 --> 00:06:39.480 And it was more about content. 00:06:39.480 --> 00:06:49.600 It was more about getting content and stuff out in front of masses instead of realizing, hey, I still need to be building relationships digitally. 00:06:49.780 --> 00:06:52.920 I need to know the names of people digitally. 00:06:53.140 --> 00:07:00.080 I need to be involved in these people's lives, utilizing digital communication tools to know who they are. 00:07:00.080 --> 00:07:08.920 And a fidgetal church is going to be a lot more about those conversations, and it's going to be a lot more about those individuals. 00:07:09.480 --> 00:07:14.220 It's going to be more engaged in a two-way conversations with these people. 00:07:14.340 --> 00:07:15.760 That's the challenge of fidgetal. 00:07:16.140 --> 00:07:24.280 Can we use these digital tools not to reach millions but to reach individuals and get those individuals to multiply here? 00:07:24.600 --> 00:07:29.380 Yes, discovering who these people are who are watching these services are hard. 00:07:29.580 --> 00:07:37.020 I had that conversation yesterday with an executor or part of a church that I'm doing work with. 00:07:37.320 --> 00:07:40.120 And, yes, it's hard to discover who these people are. 00:07:40.120 --> 00:07:42.820 But to be effective, we need to have relationships. 00:07:43.220 --> 00:07:45.520 We need to have names, not numbers. 00:07:46.020 --> 00:07:58.640 And the analytics don't tell you the story if you don't know who these people are because in order to get them to those next levels, in order to get them connected into groups, in order to move them along that disciple-making process, you've got to have a name. 00:07:58.980 --> 00:08:02.020 And you've got to have a relationship to guide them along those ways. 00:08:02.100 --> 00:08:10.260 Number two, it's more about conversations, less about content, and to be, I cheated a little bit, more about individuals, less about masses. 00:08:10.400 --> 00:08:11.680 Let's move to, hey, you know what? 00:08:11.680 --> 00:08:12.280 We've got a comment. 00:08:13.200 --> 00:08:14.300 Let's swing in here. 00:08:14.360 --> 00:08:16.000 Oh, yeah, somebody's sending some love. 00:08:16.440 --> 00:08:18.460 That would be a fun song. 00:08:18.880 --> 00:08:19.620 Let's get fidgetal. 00:08:19.700 --> 00:08:27.520 Okay, look, if I get 50 shares on this video, I will sing in the next episode, let's get fidgetal. 00:08:27.660 --> 00:08:33.000 By the way, we've got somebody else just through in here watching live all the way from India, South Asia. 00:08:33.160 --> 00:08:46.140 Love that, and it's fascinating to me in the season how much fidgetal, how much digital church, how much the global church is asking for help, is looking for help, and is challenging ideas at the same time. 00:08:46.140 --> 00:08:47.680 Shane Fernelli just shared this video. 00:08:47.780 --> 00:08:48.220 That's awesome. 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:51.600 49 more people, and I will sing the Let's Get Fidgetal song. 00:08:51.700 --> 00:08:56.760 All right, number three, more about consistency, less about quality. 00:08:56.860 --> 00:09:03.180 This one hurts, because so much in the world today, post-COVID, we're trying to get the best stream possible. 00:09:03.340 --> 00:09:04.400 We're upgrading the cameras. 00:09:04.500 --> 00:09:05.340 We're working our lighting. 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:09.340 We're doing all this, and quality is important. 00:09:10.000 --> 00:09:22.180 But if we're doing everything possible to try to get the best product out there, and we're sacrificing things like discipleship, community, 00:09:22.660 --> 00:09:30.220 we're ignoring who these people are because we're convinced that it's more about producing the masses, that's not going to help at a fidgetal church. 00:09:30.640 --> 00:09:34.620 That's not going to help you in this process of trying to make disciple-making. 00:09:35.140 --> 00:09:39.640 It's almost like I feel, maybe I'm speaking out of turn, like this desire for the best product. 00:09:39.800 --> 00:09:40.740 And believe me, I'm the guy. 00:09:41.180 --> 00:09:43.220 I run a tech company on the side. 00:09:43.780 --> 00:09:46.140 I help churches improve their products. 00:09:46.280 --> 00:09:48.680 So maybe I am being a hypocrite here. 00:09:48.760 --> 00:09:55.940 But if all we care about is the quality, and we're not looking at the other stuff, then we're missing the mark of what a fidgetal church can be. 00:09:56.540 --> 00:10:06.580 Consistency is far more important when it comes towards this idea of being fidgetal, and this idea of reaching people in digital space as well as physical. 00:10:06.580 --> 00:10:14.220 And, you know, I'm almost tempted to say some things like Gary Vee, if version one is always better than version none. 00:10:14.720 --> 00:10:17.120 You know, Gary has said that many times in his lifetime. 00:10:17.120 --> 00:10:19.060 He's a secular marketing guy. 00:10:19.380 --> 00:10:26.180 Also, you know, I would quote Mark Venti, if you're not embarrassed by the first version of your product, then you waited too soon to release it. 00:10:26.860 --> 00:10:30.380 Because whatever you're going to do, you're going to release it, you're going to learn something, you're going to experiment from it. 00:10:30.680 --> 00:10:35.860 So these are some of the challenges where consistency is more important than quality. 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:39.360 Take those steps and get out there sooner than later. 00:10:39.700 --> 00:10:40.020 Experiment. 00:10:40.220 --> 00:10:41.100 We're going to talk about this. 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:42.040 Start simple. 00:10:42.680 --> 00:10:43.960 Yes, it takes time. 00:10:44.160 --> 00:10:45.640 There's no formulaic answer. 00:10:45.760 --> 00:10:47.260 This is not an easy thing to do. 00:10:47.360 --> 00:10:53.120 But get out there and start with what you have and work consistently towards it. 00:10:53.600 --> 00:11:08.740 Very few people, even where we are in this post-COVID society, they're not going to complain about the product, especially if you're doing more than the product, especially if you're using the product to get you connected into relationships. 00:11:09.180 --> 00:11:10.580 People have a relationship with you. 00:11:10.640 --> 00:11:12.100 They're not going to complain about the product. 00:11:12.400 --> 00:11:13.100 Let's say it that way. 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:17.620 Number four, it's more about creating something new. 00:11:18.260 --> 00:11:21.200 It's less about maintaining something old. 00:11:21.560 --> 00:11:27.620 Speaking of experimenting, there's no better time to try something different than right now. 00:11:27.780 --> 00:11:30.540 Coming out of COVID, all the playbooks are scrambled. 00:11:31.140 --> 00:11:32.980 Everybody's trying to figure out something new. 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:37.720 In the world of church today, nobody has the right answer. 00:11:37.980 --> 00:11:40.360 Everybody's trying to experiment and do something new. 00:11:41.100 --> 00:11:46.820 And if what you're trying to do is just main—you know what should never be said in the church today? 00:11:48.040 --> 00:11:49.680 That's not the way that we used to do it. 00:11:50.280 --> 00:11:58.060 Like, where we are in 2021, July 7th, whatever the date is, that's not the way that we used to do it. 00:11:58.260 --> 00:12:03.880 Do you know how much stuff has changed in culture over the past 18, 16, 15 months? 00:12:04.100 --> 00:12:07.240 And this is the thing that fears me, that makes me afraid. 00:12:07.380 --> 00:12:08.420 Maybe afraid is the wrong word. 00:12:08.520 --> 00:12:09.300 See, point one. 00:12:09.560 --> 00:12:18.700 But if what we're trying to do is just go back to the way that it used to be, what we're seeing in culture is new things, is different things. 00:12:18.700 --> 00:12:20.420 They're having far more engagement. 00:12:20.420 --> 00:12:37.140 And so a church that didn't have a really aggressive digital strategy, now embracing digital and going into multiple models of church, physical and digital, well, shoot, you are now having an opportunity to do something different, something new. 00:12:37.340 --> 00:12:44.460 And what we're seeing culturally is when new things happen, new people are interested in engaging with it. 00:12:44.900 --> 00:12:46.340 And so this is the opportunity here. 00:12:46.460 --> 00:12:48.640 Don't be afraid of a new idea. 00:12:49.160 --> 00:12:49.560 Experiment. 00:12:50.220 --> 00:12:51.980 Find ways to try it out. 00:12:52.400 --> 00:12:55.340 New things, historically, are more likely to grow. 00:12:55.800 --> 00:12:57.240 Well, let's continue on here. 00:12:57.420 --> 00:12:58.340 Number five. 00:12:58.900 --> 00:13:00.180 It's not just about wide. 00:13:00.620 --> 00:13:01.300 It's about deep. 00:13:02.380 --> 00:13:02.780 5B. 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:04.500 Let's throw this at the same time. 00:13:04.660 --> 00:13:05.660 It's not just about deep. 00:13:05.980 --> 00:13:06.880 It's also about wide. 00:13:06.880 --> 00:13:10.280 Now, if anybody's singing deep and wide, deep, why do I sing so much? 00:13:10.460 --> 00:13:12.100 Like, I need to stop singing. 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:13.800 Really, just throw them both together. 00:13:14.500 --> 00:13:15.960 It's not just about wide. 00:13:16.280 --> 00:13:17.280 It's also about deep. 00:13:17.920 --> 00:13:19.340 And it's not just about deep. 00:13:19.380 --> 00:13:20.360 It's also about wide. 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:23.480 Like, this is the thing that a fidgetal does. 00:13:23.920 --> 00:13:31.320 And so often in churches, maybe pre-COVID, we saw this, where a church had a strong leaning towards evangelism. 00:13:31.540 --> 00:13:41.820 And so it was more driven by that pastor on that stage, preaching that message physically or digitally, trying to expose, to reach as many people as possible. 00:13:42.460 --> 00:13:59.620 But then, like, now we're seeing, and you'd also see at the same time, discipleship-heavy churches, churches that didn't have a lot of evangelism, but were very strong towards knowledge-based discipleship, where you would get people in classes, get people in groups, and where there was depth to it. 00:13:59.620 --> 00:14:04.820 But there wasn't necessarily the evangelical reach, the connection point. 00:14:04.820 --> 00:14:11.320 And I think where we are here in 2021, I think the answer is, you need both. 00:14:12.360 --> 00:14:19.100 And this is really where I think that a fidgetal church can shine, because a digital church can complement here. 00:14:19.100 --> 00:14:26.180 Now, notice here up front, all the other language points that I've said through one through four were, like, more and less. 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:27.180 We need more of this. 00:14:27.260 --> 00:14:28.020 We need less of this. 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:34.000 And here, like I'm saying, with this, this is not, we don't just need more wide. 00:14:34.100 --> 00:14:35.560 We also need more deep. 00:14:36.420 --> 00:14:37.580 It's both. 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:39.760 And we need to have that mindset fidgetal. 00:14:39.820 --> 00:14:42.580 Yeah, sure, we can broadcast to thousands of people. 00:14:42.700 --> 00:14:43.300 Go for it. 00:14:43.540 --> 00:14:45.740 But don't stop with that reach. 00:14:46.180 --> 00:14:48.120 Those reach are creating consumers. 00:14:48.560 --> 00:14:52.340 And so, yes, we can broadcast the message out for a lot of people to engage with. 00:14:52.660 --> 00:15:02.940 But what does it look like to take them to a deeper point, to engage, to dialogue, to disciple them to the point where they can reach their oikos, their circle of influence? 00:15:03.540 --> 00:15:10.580 In 2021, and I do believe this, our church in 2021, it needs to be both an evangelist and a disciple maker. 00:15:11.500 --> 00:15:17.280 And it's, yes, you know, the disciple making crew out there is saying, yes, but the disciple makers become the evangelist. 00:15:17.280 --> 00:15:17.840 I know that. 00:15:18.020 --> 00:15:18.720 That's kind of the point. 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:22.360 We need to be focused on getting the message brought. 00:15:22.900 --> 00:15:31.500 At the same time, we need to be training people on how to multiply, on how to share their faith, to reach the people that are around them. 00:15:31.940 --> 00:15:50.760 And through the strength of digital reaching people very easily using digital tools, at the same time equipping people, which is one of the strengths of digital, training them via digital tools and methods, the fidgetal attachment to any given church is going to help that church. 00:15:50.820 --> 00:15:57.660 And it's going to help that church train up both the evangelists and the disciple makers. 00:15:57.660 --> 00:16:03.180 And it's going to help them have a completely different strategy in their church moving forward. 00:16:04.460 --> 00:16:18.800 Our churches need to challenge our members, our attenders, to be that, to be the evangelists and the disciple makers, to share their story in Christ and to help others see how what Christ can do for them. 00:16:18.800 --> 00:16:28.400 That's the heart of fidgetal and then to take those people through a multiplication process and help them understand that they need to tell others that same vision. 00:16:28.500 --> 00:16:32.540 So there you go, five foundations of a fidgetal church. 00:16:32.640 --> 00:16:35.800 Number one, it's more about strategy, less about panic. 00:16:36.220 --> 00:16:42.700 Number two, it's more about conversations, less about content, and it's more about individuals, less about masses. 00:16:43.140 --> 00:16:43.540 Love that. 00:16:43.620 --> 00:16:46.580 Number three, more about consistency. 00:16:47.080 --> 00:16:48.220 It's less about quality. 00:16:48.620 --> 00:16:52.080 Number four, it's more about creating something new. 00:16:52.400 --> 00:16:54.620 It's less about maintaining something old. 00:16:55.120 --> 00:16:57.520 Number five, it's not just about wide. 00:16:57.680 --> 00:16:58.900 It's also about deep. 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:00.480 And it's not just about deep. 00:17:00.540 --> 00:17:02.120 It's also about wide. 00:17:02.540 --> 00:17:05.200 There's your five foundations of a fidgetal church. 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:07.300 I love this. 00:17:07.340 --> 00:17:09.820 So, by the way, I had a comment just quick thrown in here. 00:17:10.120 --> 00:17:12.660 I do love the idea of a TikTok church. 00:17:12.720 --> 00:17:13.900 We have to wrestle with that. 00:17:13.960 --> 00:17:22.420 We'll dig into that some next week as we're talking a bit with Beta 34 about dreaming of a social media church. 00:17:22.420 --> 00:17:25.580 So, hey, this has been a great time, a great conversation with that. 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:26.320 We're going to wrap here. 00:17:26.860 --> 00:17:29.680 Beta 33 found five foundations of a fidgetal church. 00:17:29.800 --> 00:17:35.380 Don't forget, Stadia wants to help you find your digital purpose in ministry. 00:17:35.780 --> 00:17:40.520 Whether it's digital-only church planting, fidgetal, multimodal, there's so many different approaches. 00:17:40.660 --> 00:17:44.720 Check out my website, thechurch.digital, for next steps there. 00:17:45.080 --> 00:17:49.360 Oh, by the way, let's get you started on your fidgetal journey here. 00:17:49.600 --> 00:17:54.860 You got questions, I'm literally putting my cell phone on here, 484-324-8724. 00:17:55.020 --> 00:17:55.940 Feel free to give me a call. 00:17:56.260 --> 00:18:01.000 Like I said, next week, Beta 34, dreaming of a social media church. 00:18:01.060 --> 00:18:01.820 Looking forward to it. 00:18:02.560 --> 00:18:03.420 So, it's been great. 00:18:03.520 --> 00:18:03.960 Thanks for this. 00:18:04.060 --> 00:18:10.100 Beta 33 is in the can for Jeff, me, for Stadia Church Planning, for the Church Digital. 00:18:10.180 --> 00:18:11.560 It's great to have you here. 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:13.420 And we'll see you next week here on the Beta Show. 00:18:13.540 --> 00:18:14.000 Y'all have a good one.