WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:09.940 Hey, we're going to get you to that podcast in one second, but before we get there, I, Jeff Reed, the Church Digital, Stadia Church Planning, I wanted to have a conversation with you, churches that are out there. 00:00:10.240 --> 00:00:23.360 One of the greatest things I arguably think that I've done in my life, other than married and kids, okay, that aside, one of the greatest ministry things I've ever done is this idea of the fidgetal learning communities that we are offering through Stadia Church Planning. 00:00:23.360 --> 00:00:31.780 We want to help you, we want to help your church learn to thrive, grow, and multiply fidgetally, physically, as well as digitally. 00:00:32.100 --> 00:00:38.320 We've seen about 200 churches go through this already, and it's been a phenomenal result of it. 00:00:38.380 --> 00:00:40.620 Culture is changing within these churches. 00:00:40.760 --> 00:00:42.640 They're understanding what it is to thrive. 00:00:43.140 --> 00:00:52.500 They're understanding how to grow people, how to grow their church, even in the midst of this COVID, not COVID, wherever we are in the season. 00:00:52.500 --> 00:00:58.460 And they're even starting to understand what it means to multiply in fidgetal space. 00:00:58.620 --> 00:01:01.880 There's no secret sauce to doing a digital strategy. 00:01:02.020 --> 00:01:04.940 There's no secret sauce to doing a fidgetal strategy. 00:01:05.080 --> 00:01:09.960 There's no secret sauce to making your church thrive, grow, and multiply. 00:01:10.140 --> 00:01:10.760 It takes work. 00:01:10.820 --> 00:01:11.660 I'm not going to lie. 00:01:12.140 --> 00:01:16.680 But through the framework, through the questions, through the learning communities, we connect you with churches. 00:01:16.680 --> 00:01:17.940 We give you some content. 00:01:17.940 --> 00:01:31.740 We coach you along the way to help you make the decisions that you need to make so that your church's strategy can thrive, grow, and multiply your church along the way. 00:01:31.940 --> 00:01:34.080 This is a great opportunity for your church. 00:01:34.180 --> 00:01:35.500 We would love to have you be a part of it. 00:01:35.500 --> 00:01:40.900 For more information, check out stadiachurchplanning.org slash fidgetal. 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:44.280 stadiachurchplanning.org slash fidgetal. 00:01:44.340 --> 00:01:47.840 P-H-Y-G-I-T-A-L. 00:01:48.140 --> 00:01:48.500 All right. 00:01:48.600 --> 00:01:49.320 Hey, that's it. 00:01:49.420 --> 00:01:51.240 We're going to get you back to that episode right now. 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:54.140 Hey, so we're at the one-year anniversary of COVID, right? 00:01:54.140 --> 00:02:08.840 March, March 13th, 16th, 2020 was when the world came to an end, so to speak, and a year into this, it is incredible to see how much churches, some churches, have learned in this season. 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:20.520 For example, and I want to present to you guys one community church in Plano, Texas, a mega, a giga church up in the northeast corner, I believe, of Dallas, Plano. 00:02:21.660 --> 00:02:24.200 Multicultural church, phenomenal church pre-COVID. 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:33.440 When COVID hit, let's be honest, and Matt talks about it a little bit here, they really did not have much of a digital strategy at one community church. 00:02:33.560 --> 00:02:40.680 But as a result of necessity, they had to learn a digital, they had to develop a digital strategy. 00:02:40.940 --> 00:02:42.800 And so Matt was the guy within the church. 00:02:43.320 --> 00:02:50.700 Pre-COVID, he was a campus pastor, but he was tasked with this role of helping to develop the digital strategy for the church. 00:02:50.700 --> 00:03:00.220 And Matt, along with the leadership there, Dr. Conway Edwards, his lead pastor there at One Community, leaned hard on Stadia's digital learning community. 00:03:00.300 --> 00:03:10.960 So we're going to talk about that, about how Stadia was part of that process of helping One Community Church develop what has ended up being an incredible digital process. 00:03:10.960 --> 00:03:20.140 So for this, I mean, even like church's platform, prayer experiences online, we want to create moments, but we also want to create a movement digital. 00:03:20.380 --> 00:03:24.500 Like there's just a beautiful strategy that's coming out of this conversation. 00:03:24.500 --> 00:03:33.260 So I want to invite you to listen to this conversation with Matt Anderson and myself, Jeff Reed, with The Church Digital. 00:03:33.880 --> 00:03:35.840 As an asterisk, I'll put that in there. 00:03:35.960 --> 00:03:36.880 We'll get to Matt in a second. 00:03:37.380 --> 00:03:44.360 We had Dr. Conway Edwards and his wife, Jada, spoke recently at Stadia's Innovation Meetup. 00:03:44.480 --> 00:03:48.000 Lead pastors at One Community Church. 00:03:48.120 --> 00:03:49.040 Both of them spoke. 00:03:49.520 --> 00:03:52.260 Matt spoke as well at this Innovation Meetup. 00:03:52.900 --> 00:04:11.440 Phenomenal, like, OK, I use the word phenomenal too much in my life, but oh, my gosh, the material, that stuff that he covered, the points, the passion, the almost entertainment value of Dr. Conway Edwards and his wife, Jada, speaking together is something you just you have to see to really appreciate. 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:13.480 That video is still online. 00:04:14.140 --> 00:04:15.280 That it's available. 00:04:15.420 --> 00:04:18.020 You have to register to see it even on demand. 00:04:18.760 --> 00:04:20.100 Stadia is opening it up. 00:04:20.100 --> 00:04:23.200 There was so popular, like, we want others to kind of catch this. 00:04:23.440 --> 00:04:37.480 So head over to stadiachurchplanning.org slash innovation to get that talk with Dr. Conway Edwards and his wife, Jada, talking about leading digital for the long haul. 00:04:38.100 --> 00:04:42.540 So good, so relevant, so applicable to all of your churches. 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:43.980 You must see it. 00:04:43.980 --> 00:04:49.440 So let's get into this conversation with Matt Anderson, One Community Church in Plano, Texas. 00:04:49.860 --> 00:04:51.480 I'm myself, Jeff, with The Church Digital. 00:04:51.980 --> 00:04:58.280 And Stadia Church Planning in a conversation that I'm simply calling Developing Your Church's Digital Strategy. 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:00.240 OK, everybody, here you go. 00:05:00.660 --> 00:05:10.260 Hey, Matt, just even to get us started here, tell us a little bit about yourself, your ministry story, how you kind of got yourself, found yourself there at One Community Church. 00:05:10.460 --> 00:05:15.660 Well, you know, it's a crazy story because it really started long before I got to One Community Church. 00:05:15.880 --> 00:05:18.340 One Community Church is about 12 years old. 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:23.320 I'm still a relatively young church, but in today's world, that might be an old church. 00:05:24.080 --> 00:05:29.740 Pastor Conway Edwards started the church 12 years ago, but him and I go back about 20 years. 00:05:29.840 --> 00:05:32.960 We were both in seminary together, and he was my small group leader. 00:05:33.440 --> 00:05:40.860 So we've known each other for about 20 years as a small group leader, and I was a member of the small group he led in seminary. 00:05:41.140 --> 00:05:45.660 And we've worked together in ministry in various churches and settings. 00:05:45.660 --> 00:05:54.160 And then when he started One Community Church about 12 years ago, just really just kept, I feel like every year he asked me, are you ready to come? 00:05:54.440 --> 00:05:55.160 Are you ready to come? 00:05:55.180 --> 00:05:57.820 And I was like, no, no, no. 00:05:57.900 --> 00:06:04.060 And then finally, when he said, we're thinking about going multisite, I said, that might be something that I'm willing to help figure out with you. 00:06:04.060 --> 00:06:12.400 And so that's kind of what drew me to One Community Church, besides the fact that our pastor is just hilarious and so authentically in the Bible. 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:17.900 It's just, it's a great, fun, and yet challenging church. 00:06:17.900 --> 00:06:21.300 It's not going to be the kind of place that you come and just have your ears tickled. 00:06:21.340 --> 00:06:22.460 You're going to be challenged with the truth. 00:06:22.660 --> 00:06:27.600 So that and just knowing my pastor for so long and his bent towards leadership. 00:06:27.880 --> 00:06:33.900 So I wanted a chance to grow and to grow in my leadership, and that's kind of how I got here about five and a half years ago. 00:06:34.060 --> 00:06:42.900 And try not to crash us starting multiple campuses, which I tried to do, but the Lord saved me. 00:06:43.980 --> 00:06:47.160 You know, I didn't realize you guys were just 12 years old. 00:06:47.400 --> 00:06:49.500 Like that's fascinating. 00:06:49.500 --> 00:07:07.600 And I would assume maybe it's easier to do some of these radical shifts like multisite, like even the digital shift that we're going to talk about soon, with a newer church, a church with just 12 years, maybe 11 or 12 years history, as opposed to, you know, a more legacy approach. 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:08.840 Do you find that to be true? 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:09.840 100%. 00:07:09.840 --> 00:07:11.720 We're much more agile. 00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:21.720 We don't have as much, no shade implied, but we don't have as much bureaucracy as some other older churches. 00:07:21.940 --> 00:07:24.300 We're a lot more nimble, a lot more agile. 00:07:25.060 --> 00:07:27.880 We can make decisions a lot quicker, and we don't have as much history. 00:07:28.460 --> 00:07:34.360 So at our church, everyone's a lot more open to new things and new methods. 00:07:34.640 --> 00:07:40.380 And really, even for our church, there's not many churches like ours, which our church is a predominantly African-American church. 00:07:40.880 --> 00:07:44.960 There's not many churches like ours that are even multisite right now. 00:07:44.960 --> 00:07:53.840 So even going multisite five and a half years ago was a very new thing at our church and in the culture of kind of where a lot of people from our church have come from. 00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:56.100 That's fascinating. 00:07:56.300 --> 00:08:01.040 I actually would almost love to have a side conversation about like the multicultural approach. 00:08:01.540 --> 00:08:06.540 We may kind of tease some of that into this conversation, but we're recording this. 00:08:06.820 --> 00:08:07.880 And often I don't talk. 00:08:07.980 --> 00:08:10.140 Obviously, it's a podcast, video, YouTube. 00:08:10.280 --> 00:08:11.280 Like we're not doing this live. 00:08:11.400 --> 00:08:12.980 There's a recording component to this. 00:08:12.980 --> 00:08:16.220 And so today is Friday, March 12th. 00:08:16.220 --> 00:08:23.760 And so my wife this morning told me that it was 365 days ago today that basically the end of the world came about. 00:08:24.260 --> 00:08:25.100 COVID was a thing. 00:08:25.200 --> 00:08:27.860 The schools, her school, my wife's teacher shut down. 00:08:28.400 --> 00:08:30.300 Churches were like, dude, you're not meeting for the weekend. 00:08:30.520 --> 00:08:31.680 Figure something else out. 00:08:32.160 --> 00:08:34.260 Everybody was panicking towards streaming. 00:08:34.660 --> 00:08:38.180 And so like this is literally when we're doing this recording, it's the one year anniversary. 00:08:38.940 --> 00:08:43.540 What did it look like for one community 365 days ago? 00:08:43.680 --> 00:08:50.760 What did that Friday the 13th, 2020, what was the state of one community at the time? 00:08:51.320 --> 00:08:52.260 That's good, Jeff. 00:08:52.980 --> 00:08:56.860 So we were on this day about a year ago. 00:08:57.340 --> 00:09:02.360 We were a church in the DFW area, more specifically in Plano, Texas, north of Dallas. 00:09:02.880 --> 00:09:09.400 And we were really trying to just knock it out of the ballpark and reach our area and our community for Jesus. 00:09:10.220 --> 00:09:12.560 We have a reach. 00:09:12.800 --> 00:09:18.160 We have four campuses at the time in Plano, Louisville, Prosper, and Dallas. 00:09:18.460 --> 00:09:20.820 So we kind of were spread out across DFW. 00:09:20.920 --> 00:09:23.580 And we were doing all we could to reach this area. 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:27.540 Our digital reach was an afterthought. 00:09:27.640 --> 00:09:28.500 Did we have digital? 00:09:28.900 --> 00:09:29.220 Yes. 00:09:29.300 --> 00:09:34.400 We checked that box that, yes, we have a church online platform, iCampus. 00:09:34.880 --> 00:09:35.840 We have that. 00:09:35.940 --> 00:09:40.100 We did not stream our services at any other time except on our iCampus platform. 00:09:40.540 --> 00:09:44.340 And we had that out there so that we could just say that we were doing what everybody else was doing. 00:09:44.400 --> 00:09:47.260 But we put very minimal effort into it. 00:09:47.620 --> 00:09:51.960 We were so focused on everything physical and everything right around where we were. 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:56.260 So when this all hit, we just, we weren't ready. 00:09:56.440 --> 00:09:58.180 We did not have the digital reach. 00:09:58.180 --> 00:10:03.640 We were not very active on social media, on YouTube, on many different platforms. 00:10:03.800 --> 00:10:06.160 We were just kind of there just so we could say we were there. 00:10:07.520 --> 00:10:16.380 So, yeah, I totally, looking back, I have a file on my note sheet that shows the date and how many weeks it's been since the initial shutdown. 00:10:16.520 --> 00:10:19.280 And this is the 52 weeks right now. 00:10:19.380 --> 00:10:23.940 And it just was a, it was a major shift in thinking for us. 00:10:23.980 --> 00:10:31.400 And since we're agile, we just started right that very week figuring out what is this going to mean for us. 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:36.600 You know, and for us, the first thing was, was, oh, my goodness. 00:10:36.740 --> 00:10:40.300 And I'm not saying, Jeff, this was the right response, but it was the next response. 00:10:40.600 --> 00:10:41.200 Oh, my goodness. 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:44.020 We've got to get church up online so everybody can see it. 00:10:44.620 --> 00:10:48.200 And we weren't thinking about what does it mean to be a digital church? 00:10:48.280 --> 00:10:49.700 What does it mean to be a fidgetal church? 00:10:50.100 --> 00:10:51.020 We weren't thinking about any of those. 00:10:51.100 --> 00:10:54.400 We were just thinking, how can we get church online so people can watch us? 00:10:54.780 --> 00:10:59.460 And, you know, that drove the first couple of weeks for us while this was going on. 00:10:59.520 --> 00:11:01.000 How do we, how do we go digital? 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:05.900 How can we have, how can we up our game in what we broadcast out? 00:11:05.980 --> 00:11:09.540 And at that time, we didn't even know if we were going to be able to get into the church building. 00:11:09.540 --> 00:11:14.320 So how do we set up many studios in different pastors' homes at our church? 00:11:14.380 --> 00:11:18.840 Because we were talking about, you're going to be locked in your house for the next 60 days, 90 days. 00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:20.500 So what do we do from here? 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:22.880 So step one for us was, let's just get online. 00:11:24.060 --> 00:11:25.780 And we had a long ways to go. 00:11:27.400 --> 00:11:33.160 Yeah, and so many churches were just like you in those first weeks and maybe the first month or so. 00:11:33.460 --> 00:11:35.180 Let's get the service online. 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:37.340 Let's focus on the service. 00:11:37.920 --> 00:11:47.100 One of the things that even surprised me, and we've talked about it on the show, is I was surprised the number of churches that actually pivoted beyond just the service. 00:11:47.100 --> 00:11:54.600 That looked towards small groups, that recognized, you know, maybe getting the physical small groups moved into digital. 00:11:54.760 --> 00:12:01.660 The challenge in wrestling with the idea of creating digital community or utilizing digital community. 00:12:01.660 --> 00:12:10.840 You know, and I can even remember, I recorded an online conference, a session for American Bible Society. 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:14.820 And I think I recorded it like right around this time. 00:12:14.900 --> 00:12:16.360 It was either the 12th or the 13th. 00:12:16.760 --> 00:12:21.020 And it was one of these, once again, another pre-recorded session, gave it to American Bible Society for one of their virtual conferences. 00:12:21.020 --> 00:12:41.180 Oh my gosh, if the world shut down for two weeks, what we could do with Bible engagement, with Bible reading, how you could disciple and now relationally connect with your kids. 00:12:41.400 --> 00:12:42.580 What else are you going to do? 00:12:42.620 --> 00:12:48.100 If you watch Netflix, you've got two weeks of lockdown, you know, and here we are like 52 weeks. 00:12:48.180 --> 00:12:51.240 Well, Texas, you know, you guys are now back open and everything's normal. 00:12:51.440 --> 00:12:55.740 The rest of the country is maybe not quite as aggressive as you guys are in Texas, once again. 00:12:56.140 --> 00:13:07.000 But it's incredible to see how some churches have been very resilient in this season of trying to figure out how to master this digital thing. 00:13:07.140 --> 00:13:10.500 And you, with one community, did a great job in the season. 00:13:10.620 --> 00:13:18.040 Once again, not having that infrastructure beforehand, but agilely adjusting almost on the fly towards it. 00:13:18.040 --> 00:13:28.740 And so, what are some lessons, what are some tips, what are some mistakes maybe that you did in that first couple months where you didn't know what you were doing, you're trying to figure it out? 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:30.900 Like, what did that rough season look like for you? 00:13:31.100 --> 00:13:33.120 I'm assuming it was rough, but yeah. 00:13:33.460 --> 00:13:34.120 Very rough. 00:13:34.260 --> 00:13:41.760 And we, you know, we learned a lot and we said, you know, we've, basically our entire staff, there's nobody that held their position on staff tightly. 00:13:42.160 --> 00:13:45.160 So, at our church, everybody on staff became digital experts. 00:13:45.160 --> 00:13:53.060 We all started pouring into everything, your podcast, what Stadia does, what everybody digital we could find is doing. 00:13:53.180 --> 00:13:54.580 We all started pouring into it. 00:13:54.620 --> 00:13:59.140 The first thing we discovered is we need to start small, we need to start online groups. 00:13:59.400 --> 00:14:02.600 We already had a huge small group ministry, but we had nothing online. 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:07.820 So, in a matter of about four weeks, we launched about 100 online groups on Zoom. 00:14:08.400 --> 00:14:11.140 We went to all of our church leaders and we said, we need you. 00:14:11.260 --> 00:14:14.400 Our number one goal now is connection for everybody in this digital world. 00:14:14.700 --> 00:14:17.980 We've got to create an online place to do that. 00:14:18.040 --> 00:14:22.220 So, we're going to start Zoom groups and we trained everyone up or something of a training. 00:14:22.880 --> 00:14:27.400 And then we told everyone, hey, starting small groups, good. 00:14:27.780 --> 00:14:29.460 What we said next, not so good. 00:14:30.260 --> 00:14:35.200 We're going to be in this online small group thing for probably eight to ten weeks. 00:14:35.420 --> 00:14:42.920 So, we need you ready to go, online groups, on Zoom, the next eight to ten, maybe 12 weeks tops, we're going to do these online groups. 00:14:43.060 --> 00:14:44.740 Ready, set, let's go. 00:14:44.940 --> 00:14:48.040 And then we just started like crazy connecting people to groups. 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:53.480 So, one of the things is we had this mindset of we're going to be back by Easter. 00:14:53.620 --> 00:14:54.780 I know everybody remembers that. 00:14:54.860 --> 00:15:00.260 By Easter, we're going to be back and we'll be back in person and we'll be back in chairs in the church. 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:05.240 And we were making decisions as if we knew when this was going to end. 00:15:06.080 --> 00:15:07.440 So, that was not so good. 00:15:07.540 --> 00:15:10.240 So, we started to shift throughout the process. 00:15:10.460 --> 00:15:14.340 We started a ton of small groups and we unified them. 00:15:14.420 --> 00:15:16.480 They were all either men's or women's groups on Zoom. 00:15:16.640 --> 00:15:19.680 And then we unified the curriculum. 00:15:19.860 --> 00:15:25.480 So, we said we're going to partner with Right Now Media and we're going to unify our curriculum. 00:15:25.620 --> 00:15:30.220 Everybody's going to go through the same thing initially and get these groups going. 00:15:30.220 --> 00:15:36.360 And then after we got the groups going and after we saw this wasn't going to be something that ends quick, 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:41.400 we realized we needed to get our reach much greater in the digital world. 00:15:41.540 --> 00:15:42.740 And we had next to nothing. 00:15:43.760 --> 00:15:46.020 So, we got our groups going great on the church. 00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:48.160 We got broadcasting the service going great. 00:15:48.560 --> 00:15:52.400 We got Facebook private groups for all of our campuses. 00:15:52.680 --> 00:15:57.800 And each of our campus pastor would do a daily devotion on Facebook on their campus group. 00:15:58.620 --> 00:16:00.320 So, we got that going good. 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:05.560 And then we also started, again, us thinking we knew the answers. 00:16:05.660 --> 00:16:09.620 We started something that we've done in the past in our church where we would do a live morning prayer. 00:16:10.280 --> 00:16:12.040 And this is from our church sanctuary. 00:16:12.540 --> 00:16:14.080 We just turn on a camera and we go. 00:16:14.280 --> 00:16:15.780 It's not produced. 00:16:15.940 --> 00:16:21.880 It's just us sitting in a couple of chairs and a couch and somebody playing a keyboard, singing. 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:23.000 We have a little worship. 00:16:23.800 --> 00:16:29.380 We said we're going to do our morning prayer at 6.30 a.m. every day for the next two weeks. 00:16:29.940 --> 00:16:32.360 And then we'll be, we'll know where we're headed from this. 00:16:33.400 --> 00:16:38.200 So, we started this morning live prayer and it really just took off. 00:16:39.460 --> 00:16:44.500 Basically, what we'll do is sing a song and then we'll beg everyone, send us your prayer request. 00:16:44.560 --> 00:16:46.120 We want to pray for you live. 00:16:46.200 --> 00:16:49.400 And we'll have two or three different members of our staff there every morning. 00:16:50.020 --> 00:16:50.980 Send us your prayer request. 00:16:51.100 --> 00:16:52.980 We share about a three or four minute devotion. 00:16:53.560 --> 00:17:01.700 And then we just go through and just start praying for people and encouraging others to pray, encouraging everyone to share so that their friends can start their day off with prayer. 00:17:01.700 --> 00:17:09.360 And this thing just exploded and it became our highest engaging online event out of everything we do. 00:17:09.840 --> 00:17:17.340 Something like 30 to 35 percent of the people on there were engaged in one way or another, either liking, sharing, commenting or being active. 00:17:17.460 --> 00:17:19.740 So, that was a huge thing was to have a morning prayer. 00:17:19.860 --> 00:17:22.760 We got people when they were at home, they weren't on the road. 00:17:23.040 --> 00:17:26.480 We hit them right where they're at and we were live every time. 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:35.320 And it does something when people are sharing requests and live, you're praying for them, pastors that they know and others. 00:17:35.440 --> 00:17:40.180 We always encourage everybody when you're in the chat, pray for others in the chat as well. 00:17:40.180 --> 00:17:42.420 Drop a scripture, like, say hello. 00:17:42.560 --> 00:17:46.680 So, it wasn't just about us on stage praying, but we did our best to get everyone else involved. 00:17:47.460 --> 00:17:51.440 So, that live prayer event was huge for us. 00:17:51.860 --> 00:17:56.020 And here we are, 52 weeks later, now we have a whole schedule. 00:17:56.240 --> 00:17:57.960 We have our staff all oriented around it. 00:17:57.980 --> 00:18:00.360 It's something that we're going to continue to do ongoing. 00:18:00.900 --> 00:18:05.460 It went from a two-week thing to a 52-week thing and our church just loves it. 00:18:05.900 --> 00:18:10.660 So, we've built a lot around morning prayer at our church, Monday through Friday. 00:18:11.380 --> 00:18:14.140 It's on Facebook and on our iCampus platform. 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:19.980 So, it's been a great, great tool to keep people engaged in the digital world. 00:18:21.060 --> 00:18:28.580 I think the next big thing we hit was, and you've heard about these, we started a bunch of, every two or three weeks, we started an online party. 00:18:30.780 --> 00:18:32.740 And from prayer to party. 00:18:32.980 --> 00:18:34.020 From prayer to party. 00:18:34.160 --> 00:18:34.300 Right? 00:18:34.760 --> 00:18:35.780 Yeah, that's great. 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:37.600 That's how we kind of roll. 00:18:37.600 --> 00:18:38.500 That's how you roll at one community. 00:18:39.680 --> 00:18:41.000 We do whatever we can. 00:18:41.180 --> 00:18:41.680 That's right. 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:42.580 From prayer to party. 00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:44.640 We're going to start using that, Jeff. 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:45.380 Prayer to party. 00:18:46.300 --> 00:18:51.580 We needed to find a way to build our connection online. 00:18:51.940 --> 00:18:58.220 So, our first attempt at doing that was something, we were calling it back then, party, I'm sorry, shelter in place. 00:18:58.280 --> 00:19:00.300 So, we said, we're going to call this party in place. 00:19:00.740 --> 00:19:03.080 You're going to have a party that you can watch from home. 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:07.860 So, our very first party in place was for our high school seniors who were going to miss graduation. 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:10.780 So, we said, hey, you know what? 00:19:10.780 --> 00:19:12.040 We're going to have a huge party. 00:19:12.200 --> 00:19:15.300 We got local DJs from the radio stations around here. 00:19:15.800 --> 00:19:20.120 And we just want to have a huge giveaway to celebrate high school seniors that are going to miss graduation. 00:19:20.760 --> 00:19:25.480 And our heart has always been who's hurting the most and how can we reach them where they're at. 00:19:26.040 --> 00:19:30.800 And we know that our teens and our next generation through this pandemic have been struggling as much as anyone. 00:19:32.160 --> 00:19:38.440 So, what we did was we said, we're going to have a huge online party on a Friday night from 8 to 9.30 p.m. 00:19:38.620 --> 00:19:43.580 We're going to have giveaways every five minutes, gift cards, you name it. 00:19:43.640 --> 00:19:47.640 And then at the end of the event, we're going to give away a car live on YouTube. 00:19:47.700 --> 00:19:48.520 We're going to give away a car. 00:19:48.520 --> 00:19:58.780 And all you got to do is go subscribe to our YouTube page, follow us on Facebook, and then you'll be eligible. 00:19:59.020 --> 00:19:59.840 And then be watching. 00:19:59.980 --> 00:20:02.520 You have to be live to win any of the prizes that we're going to give away. 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:12.940 So, that was the first big thing that helped us grow our YouTube followers in a big, big way so that we could begin to expand our reach. 00:20:13.060 --> 00:20:14.440 And it was just a blast of an event. 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:16.140 Thousands of kids were on there. 00:20:16.220 --> 00:20:17.160 It wasn't just for our church. 00:20:17.220 --> 00:20:18.380 It was all across the country. 00:20:18.780 --> 00:20:20.140 As many people as possible. 00:20:20.380 --> 00:20:23.400 We encourage everybody to share, be a part of this. 00:20:23.480 --> 00:20:24.200 It was music. 00:20:24.380 --> 00:20:25.160 It was dancing. 00:20:25.320 --> 00:20:30.740 Every five, six, seven minutes, we would scroll names of people on the screen who were winning the different giveaways. 00:20:31.800 --> 00:20:33.360 It was a blast. 00:20:33.460 --> 00:20:35.140 And at the end, we gave away a car. 00:20:36.100 --> 00:20:37.580 And it was so awesome. 00:20:37.580 --> 00:20:38.480 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. 00:20:38.600 --> 00:20:40.880 You gave away your church. 00:20:41.060 --> 00:20:42.320 Let's focus on that. 00:20:42.620 --> 00:20:46.900 Your church gave away a car, you're telling me, in a virtual party on YouTube. 00:20:47.500 --> 00:20:48.320 Tell that story. 00:20:48.680 --> 00:20:53.480 Yeah, so we, it is really crazy how this all happened. 00:20:53.640 --> 00:20:55.880 We gave away a car on a virtual party. 00:20:55.960 --> 00:20:59.000 This is the, this is what we've learned is the blend between fidgetal. 00:20:59.100 --> 00:21:02.300 It's blending, going back and forth between physical and digital. 00:21:02.700 --> 00:21:08.140 We had thousands of kids sign up for this event and share their story. 00:21:08.500 --> 00:21:11.700 And why, why, what, what God's been doing in their life. 00:21:11.820 --> 00:21:22.760 And what we basically do was during that afternoon, the evening up to the event, we filtered through about five people that we thought, you know what, this kid needs to be blessed. 00:21:23.040 --> 00:21:27.300 And we went through and we had a team of people evaluating after we picked the top five. 00:21:27.520 --> 00:21:32.580 And then we figured out about an hour before the event who was going to actually win the car. 00:21:32.740 --> 00:21:35.100 Now, all the other prizes were live on the spot. 00:21:35.160 --> 00:21:36.480 So I'm giving you the behind the scenes. 00:21:36.620 --> 00:21:42.260 We knew who was going to win the car about an hour before the event, because we had to call, make sure they were going to be home. 00:21:42.460 --> 00:21:44.860 We didn't tell them they were going to win a car, but call the parents. 00:21:44.980 --> 00:21:47.500 Hey, just making sure you're going to be watching the event tonight. 00:21:47.540 --> 00:21:48.660 It's going to be so much fun. 00:21:49.300 --> 00:21:50.140 Get the address. 00:21:50.500 --> 00:21:54.560 We had to show up and make sure we could find the house where the car was going to be given away. 00:21:55.420 --> 00:21:57.000 So we had to do all this pre-work. 00:21:57.060 --> 00:22:03.400 And I was actually involved in the pre-work of getting the car to the, it ended up being an apartment and live on TV. 00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:07.420 And we just knew we just had to, we needed to bless. 00:22:08.360 --> 00:22:14.000 And the number of thousands of dollars we gave away was unbelievable. 00:22:14.440 --> 00:22:15.900 But the car was the highlight. 00:22:16.140 --> 00:22:20.620 And we connected FaceTime on one of our phones, one of our Mac computers. 00:22:20.620 --> 00:22:22.980 And we FaceTimed giving away the car. 00:22:23.240 --> 00:22:24.740 And we rolled up to the apartment. 00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:30.000 We had the keys, the car, camera crew knocked on the door and no one answered. 00:22:32.460 --> 00:22:33.960 We were at the wrong apartment. 00:22:34.100 --> 00:22:38.100 We vetted, we came and we figured everything out and we got to the wrong apartment. 00:22:38.200 --> 00:22:39.580 That was the funniest thing about the event. 00:22:39.640 --> 00:22:44.980 We were live and we were at the wrong, the buildings each had the same apartment numbers on them. 00:22:45.420 --> 00:22:47.880 And we were at the building next to the one we should have been. 00:22:47.960 --> 00:22:54.280 And it was just crazy that we, it just, it just showed that this was not a well-produced, this was just a, let's put this together. 00:22:54.760 --> 00:22:56.660 We're going to be real and pull this off. 00:22:56.800 --> 00:23:01.340 And we were able to call and make sure where the correct apartment was, run over there. 00:23:01.440 --> 00:23:04.180 The police came because everybody was making so much noise. 00:23:04.340 --> 00:23:05.120 Neighbors were yelling. 00:23:05.260 --> 00:23:05.900 But here we are. 00:23:06.240 --> 00:23:10.860 We had this 18-year-old girl who got a brand new car, getting ready to go to college. 00:23:11.020 --> 00:23:12.680 It was a blast. 00:23:14.140 --> 00:23:18.160 I'll tell you, Jeff, the really cool thing is we did these for college kids. 00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:21.380 We did this for, every month we did one of these. 00:23:21.880 --> 00:23:23.620 And there was always some big giveaway. 00:23:23.980 --> 00:23:28.920 And on the registration page for every event we did, we never asked anybody for any money. 00:23:28.920 --> 00:23:37.440 But we said, if you're from our church or somewhere else and you want to, you want to donate toward making this a special event, here's a link where you can donate. 00:23:37.760 --> 00:23:44.180 In every event we had, the donations covered the cost of every single giveaway we had. 00:23:44.620 --> 00:23:45.780 And we didn't plan it. 00:23:45.880 --> 00:23:47.620 We didn't, we didn't know that was going to happen. 00:23:47.780 --> 00:23:52.620 But the generosity of our church to bless others just completely overwhelmed us. 00:23:53.840 --> 00:23:57.440 Later on in the year, we did one for teachers as they got ready to go back to school in August. 00:23:57.700 --> 00:23:59.800 And the same kind of thing for teachers. 00:23:59.920 --> 00:24:03.940 But what we did is every minute of the event, a different teacher won an iPad. 00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:06.340 So we gave away 60 iPads in 60 minutes. 00:24:07.080 --> 00:24:10.980 And again, just our church showing up to bless others. 00:24:11.260 --> 00:24:14.740 And every one of these events would have some component of a giveaway. 00:24:15.080 --> 00:24:20.080 And it was just, it was overwhelming to see God's people show up to bless others. 00:24:20.380 --> 00:24:26.240 And through a digital event, blessing people in person, blessing people online, it was amazing. 00:24:26.620 --> 00:24:28.120 Our church just really showed up. 00:24:28.340 --> 00:24:32.480 Hey, like you're really, I mean, even just with backing up even to the prayer, the prayer 00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:38.920 to the party, this is really thinking outside the box, at least in context of where you were 00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:44.100 May, June 2020, like celebrating in that graduation season when it started. 00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:46.040 Churches weren't thinking that way. 00:24:46.460 --> 00:24:52.620 You know, as a matter of fact, Barna on the prayer side has really confirmed a lot of the things that you've seen. 00:24:52.620 --> 00:25:14.900 And just even this year, February, I think 2021, Barna's released a digital prayer report working with Alpha, focusing on prayer and how there's this huge percentage of people, Christians and non-Christians, that are looking to digital as a place of prayer and are wanting the churches to create. 00:25:14.960 --> 00:25:28.520 And when it comes to the percentage of churches out there that are doing it, I'm not talking about doing like a 30-second prayer thing in your service. 00:25:28.520 --> 00:25:39.580 I'm talking about like what you're doing, a daily expression of prayer, come get prayed for, come pray over others, share scripture and encourage others in that format. 00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:45.980 Like that, nobody was thinking like that in, maybe some churches were, but the majority weren't. 00:25:46.420 --> 00:25:52.400 And now talking about doing this party thing, like both of these are very outside of the box thinking. 00:25:52.680 --> 00:25:55.860 For your church, where did that come from? 00:25:56.300 --> 00:25:59.180 Do you have like some personnel that are very outside of the box? 00:25:59.300 --> 00:26:01.100 Was it just gun to your head? 00:26:01.140 --> 00:26:01.960 You had to do it? 00:26:02.060 --> 00:26:08.520 Like where did some of that creative process, energy, where is that stored? 00:26:08.520 --> 00:26:09.900 How did that get released? 00:26:10.100 --> 00:26:11.600 Yeah, that's a great question, Jeff. 00:26:12.540 --> 00:26:15.720 I've got to just, there is one place this came from. 00:26:15.860 --> 00:26:21.680 Our pastor, Conway Edwards, is the most forward thinking for years. 00:26:21.840 --> 00:26:26.340 He's always been talking about leadership and looking around the corner. 00:26:27.620 --> 00:26:35.540 He's always talked about our leadership capacity, the umbrella of how big of a problem and how we can lead. 00:26:35.540 --> 00:26:39.480 And part of that trajectory is looking around the corner and what that's caused him to do. 00:26:39.600 --> 00:26:43.040 And for our entire staff is, is we are a church of learners. 00:26:43.740 --> 00:26:51.540 We have always been learning and not just from other churches, but from industry and not just industry in the U.S., but industry across the globe. 00:26:51.940 --> 00:26:53.500 So we've always been learning. 00:26:53.500 --> 00:26:59.400 And our pastor is the kind of guy that he never settles for the status quo. 00:26:59.820 --> 00:27:06.840 So we're always trying to figure out how do we not become, and everybody said it, how do we not become a blockbuster? 00:27:07.500 --> 00:27:10.360 How do we not become what movie theaters have become now? 00:27:10.560 --> 00:27:15.960 And we're always trying to look around the corner and anticipate what that could be for our church. 00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:17.800 And we've got so many ideas coming up. 00:27:17.820 --> 00:27:21.720 But I would say our pastors always kept us on the edge. 00:27:21.720 --> 00:27:30.000 And one of the things he's challenged our executive staff and hold us accountable for is always having a peer or cohort that we're a part of. 00:27:31.340 --> 00:27:31.860 Always. 00:27:32.680 --> 00:27:38.540 And I love what Simon Sinek recently had a video called Be the Idiot or Be an Idiot. 00:27:39.040 --> 00:27:45.800 And he talks about being curious and just not always needing to be the smartest person in the room. 00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:47.080 So our pastor says, you know what? 00:27:47.400 --> 00:28:00.400 Everybody on our executive team, you need to be a part of a cohort or building connections, either with somebody at a church the same size as ours or larger, or somebody at a church that's doing things that we can't even imagine doing. 00:28:00.860 --> 00:28:06.620 So ever since I've been at our church for the last five and a half years, I've always been challenged and done it. 00:28:06.620 --> 00:28:16.580 I've got other campus pastors from other larger churches and other digital church ministry people that I've connected with for the last five and a half years, about once a quarter. 00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:18.500 So we're always trying to grow and learn. 00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:20.560 And then that just fed in naturally over the summer. 00:28:20.760 --> 00:28:21.660 We heard, you know what? 00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:25.260 There's going to be this Stadia Fidgetal Church cohort. 00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:28.760 And our pastor was like, that's for you, Matt. 00:28:28.780 --> 00:28:30.820 You need to go hop in this and you need to be a part of this. 00:28:30.820 --> 00:28:36.120 And we actually found a cohort for all of our executive team to be a part of in different areas of ministry. 00:28:36.620 --> 00:28:43.600 And really just being a part of connecting with other leaders who are headed in the same direction. 00:28:43.840 --> 00:28:50.720 And what we learned in our Fidgetal experience with Stadia just changed and shaped how we do church. 00:28:51.420 --> 00:29:04.760 Getting to hear from guys all across the country to guys with VR churches, to church at home in the Northwest, churches across the Midwest, just churches all across the country in different contexts. 00:29:05.420 --> 00:29:07.780 Some that aren't doing a whole lot digital. 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:09.580 Some that are just sharing all kinds of things. 00:29:09.760 --> 00:29:19.340 That really, it turned into a, for me and for our team, because everybody on our team was in a different cohort, every week coming back as a team and saying, what did you learn? 00:29:19.420 --> 00:29:20.200 What did you learn? 00:29:20.540 --> 00:29:21.980 What do you have to bring to the table? 00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:37.080 And for us as a leadership team at our church, we try to focus not on, one of the ways we battle being in our own silos is when we come together, all contributing to the greater organization of our church. 00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:40.020 So not what I just learned from my area, what did you learn? 00:29:40.140 --> 00:29:42.580 How are we all contributing to our church at large? 00:29:42.820 --> 00:29:48.920 And man, coming back, I think I won with the best ideas because I was coming from the Fidgetal cohort. 00:29:49.700 --> 00:29:58.900 But just learning, what does it mean to go from just an online church to, or just a church broadcasting a service to being an online church? 00:29:59.220 --> 00:30:02.460 That shaped how we began to look at how do we do digital membership? 00:30:03.020 --> 00:30:06.120 What if somebody wants to get baptized who lives in Florida, which happened? 00:30:06.600 --> 00:30:11.540 And we began to have to process all of these things as I came back and shared every week what I was learning. 00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:17.480 And it just shaped, it shaped how we looked at being innovative. 00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:22.840 And the biggest thing we got is last September, we took our church in a series called Pivot. 00:30:22.980 --> 00:30:27.740 And it was, it was reimagining church, new, new methods, same mission. 00:30:27.740 --> 00:30:30.220 And we used the illustration of a lighthouse. 00:30:30.860 --> 00:30:36.540 And, you know, it was really just for too long, we've looked at the church building as a lighthouse. 00:30:37.500 --> 00:30:42.140 And really God's model has always been that every single believer in Jesus Christ is a lighthouse. 00:30:43.060 --> 00:30:48.220 And the imagery we used is no longer is our church going to be the only lighthouse or our campuses, 00:30:48.500 --> 00:30:52.520 but every individual, every family, you are a lighthouse right where you're at. 00:30:52.740 --> 00:31:02.020 And we began to make the big shift on how we look at church and how we look at individuals in the church and how we can make a difference right where we're at. 00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:05.640 So, you know, I just went down a couple of different rabbit trails for you. 00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:09.800 No, I loved every second of it. 00:31:09.860 --> 00:31:16.480 First off, you know, Stadia, Stadia, Fidgetal, one of the things we talk about there, and I love the nice words towards that. 00:31:16.860 --> 00:31:22.560 But one of the things we talk about, we talk about how physical and digital ministries are different. 00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:27.380 Doing ministry in physical space, doing ministry in digital space, it's different. 00:31:27.820 --> 00:31:31.420 Sometimes I feel like when I say it, you know, people shake their heads, yes, I agree. 00:31:31.740 --> 00:31:36.820 And then they go, they do their ministry the exact same way, physical and digital is combined together. 00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:38.580 And they're not taking advantage of that. 00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:41.040 What I know of you, you've been taking advantage of it. 00:31:41.040 --> 00:31:52.100 So, like, as a participant of a Stadia Fidgetal, of the coaching and of some of the training and the cohorts and learning and the content, all the stuff that we've done, 00:31:52.620 --> 00:31:53.720 this is a test. 00:31:53.840 --> 00:31:54.420 This is a quiz. 00:31:54.540 --> 00:31:56.040 I want to see how much of it actually stuck. 00:31:57.200 --> 00:31:59.920 What does it look like in your church right now? 00:32:00.260 --> 00:32:05.380 How is physical and digital ministry, physical church, digital church, how is it different? 00:32:05.580 --> 00:32:08.280 I would love your take of what you're seeing in real time. 00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:08.900 Wow. 00:32:09.740 --> 00:32:12.080 You know, that's even evolving right now. 00:32:12.820 --> 00:32:14.880 How is the physical and the digital different? 00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:19.700 We're still primarily digital, I would say. 00:32:19.700 --> 00:32:27.080 We did have in-person services start last September, but there's no mistake. 00:32:27.080 --> 00:32:30.080 If you think about it, 80% of our audience is still watching online. 00:32:32.060 --> 00:32:40.320 So, our physical experience has turned into, we do have Sunday, Saturday, and Sunday worship services in person. 00:32:40.320 --> 00:32:48.840 But primarily, we've been digital in the fact of small groups, how we stay involved online and how we blend those together. 00:32:48.980 --> 00:32:55.000 I think the thing we're seeing in this is really how do we blend and create experiences. 00:32:55.100 --> 00:33:02.000 And I learned this was some people will never come to your church in person. 00:33:02.100 --> 00:33:03.100 They will only watch online. 00:33:03.100 --> 00:33:08.360 Some people are dying to come back in person and some want the flexibility to go back and forth. 00:33:09.080 --> 00:33:17.580 So, for us, digital has become how do we give individuals at our church the opportunity to go back and forth between one platform and another. 00:33:18.080 --> 00:33:19.120 And we're figuring that out. 00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:27.820 For us, it has been huge on our online groups, huge on empowering people to, as I said before, be a lighthouse. 00:33:28.080 --> 00:33:30.860 And we did something called neighborhood champions. 00:33:31.280 --> 00:33:36.100 And a neighborhood champion just means you're a lighthouse, and you're going to be a lighthouse right where you're at. 00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:42.780 We're going to give you tools to disciple others, to start small groups, to put up a how can I pray for you sign in your front yard. 00:33:44.060 --> 00:33:49.080 And really figuring how do we empower people right in their neighborhoods to make a difference. 00:33:49.540 --> 00:33:56.800 And then even as we have groups of people across the country start wanting to be a part of our church, we're starting to look now at small micro sites. 00:33:56.880 --> 00:34:01.460 And once we get 15 to 20 people that want to watch in a certain area doing that together. 00:34:01.860 --> 00:34:05.760 So, the major shift for us has been in mindset. 00:34:06.560 --> 00:34:15.640 And it's gone from attendance, from just attendance to two movements. 00:34:16.100 --> 00:34:18.500 Well, really, we focus on moments and movements. 00:34:19.020 --> 00:34:26.220 So, creating moments online and then giving individuals ways that they can take next steps from that moment. 00:34:26.820 --> 00:34:28.220 So, it's not just attendance. 00:34:28.420 --> 00:34:29.780 It's not just a physical environment. 00:34:29.780 --> 00:34:33.420 It's creating a moment and then giving people next steps. 00:34:33.560 --> 00:34:36.220 And that next step could be on a Sunday morning as they're watching. 00:34:36.540 --> 00:34:41.460 That next step could be on a Tuesday if they're watching the service on a Tuesday, a recording of it on YouTube. 00:34:41.940 --> 00:34:50.000 But giving people opportunities to take steps throughout the week and not just view church as a Sunday morning experience. 00:34:51.020 --> 00:34:52.800 So, physical, you know, we just learned. 00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:55.020 Physical, it's hard to get that thing going physical. 00:34:55.340 --> 00:35:05.220 And the battle of keeping our team working on digital just as passionately they are as physical has been one of the tensions we've had to live in. 00:35:06.540 --> 00:35:20.820 And even what you're talking about, by the way, you're talking about doing probably at least what I just heard, three different types of church coming out of your one community church location. 00:35:20.820 --> 00:35:22.860 So, you've talked about the physical. 00:35:23.540 --> 00:35:29.840 You've talked about this idea of broadcasting the services and doing the digital services, the YouTube. 00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:35.840 Like that, a digital church is a completely separate thing from the physical. 00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:45.520 You even hinted you're working on micro locations and starting to turn those watch parties, digital expressions exuding into like homes. 00:35:45.720 --> 00:35:49.400 That's a completely separate expression of church as well. 00:35:49.460 --> 00:35:55.860 And the thing that I love about you, and I'm going to tell you a word you probably don't even know yet, but it's the reason that I love your church. 00:35:56.280 --> 00:35:58.480 Your church, and I'm the guy who makes up words. 00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:01.340 So, we did physical and digital coming together. 00:36:01.680 --> 00:36:07.080 What you're talking about doing here really is you're becoming a multimodal church. 00:36:08.040 --> 00:36:11.460 Multiple models, multimodal church. 00:36:11.460 --> 00:36:13.240 You are a physical church. 00:36:13.380 --> 00:36:15.020 You are a digital church. 00:36:15.020 --> 00:36:21.080 And you're wrestling and you're trying to figure out even how to get to that micro church level in the community. 00:36:21.220 --> 00:36:31.760 For you, innovation, thinking differently, maybe seeing where God is moving and joining him in that journey is not a hard thing. 00:36:31.820 --> 00:36:37.440 Now, maybe that's because you're like sub-12 years old and you're able to turn on a dime. 00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:41.040 I mean, your pastor is one of these creative guys who's thinking out of the box. 00:36:41.140 --> 00:36:42.940 Thank you very much, Dr. Conway Edwards. 00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:53.360 But you have this option of saying, hey, we're recognizing that people are, they disciple differently in different spaces. 00:36:53.360 --> 00:37:02.720 For me to disciple someone in a physical building versus discipling someone digitally versus discipling someone maybe even at a house. 00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:04.680 First off, it looks different. 00:37:05.020 --> 00:37:09.640 But secondly, the type of person I'm going to reach in that space is different. 00:37:09.900 --> 00:37:19.320 The type of person that's going to come to a digital only versus a physical versus the type of person I can reach more in a missional community focused micro location. 00:37:19.780 --> 00:37:22.660 Those are each different types of people. 00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:24.060 Do you feel that? 00:37:24.140 --> 00:37:24.800 Do you see that? 00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:29.900 Like, is that the vision why you're looking at doing these different modals, multimodal approach? 00:37:30.040 --> 00:37:30.340 Definitely. 00:37:31.040 --> 00:37:35.360 So the goal is to just straight up reach people where they're at. 00:37:36.020 --> 00:37:38.240 And we've seen a huge culture shift. 00:37:38.380 --> 00:37:39.780 It's evident to us. 00:37:40.540 --> 00:37:42.720 Church will never be the same as we know it. 00:37:43.140 --> 00:37:44.200 We're not waiting. 00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:46.920 We're not looking at the stopwatch for when we go back to normal. 00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:52.980 It's how do we reach people right where they're at and create moments where they can have experiences, whatever that looks like. 00:37:53.060 --> 00:37:55.040 And this was so far in left field for us. 00:37:56.040 --> 00:37:57.700 But now it's where we're at. 00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:08.140 And we are committed to providing resources and being, as it were, from what I learned in the cohort, being a platform. 00:38:08.900 --> 00:38:16.480 And what we want to do is we want to empower and let happen what's already going to happen. 00:38:16.860 --> 00:38:18.800 People are going to already build relationships. 00:38:19.020 --> 00:38:20.760 They're going to stay connected in their neighborhoods. 00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:27.700 So what we've decided we want to do is instead of coming to us, let us empower you so that what's going to happen can already happen. 00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:34.360 And that's been such a big shift because normally in, like, say, a small group ministry, it's somebody says, I want to be a small group leader. 00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:36.720 And then we say, here's 10 people for you to lead in your group. 00:38:37.460 --> 00:38:47.540 Now, if somebody says, I want to be a neighborhood champion, I want to reach my community, we say, we're going to do a monthly call, we're going to give you resources, and then we're going to set you free to do that. 00:38:48.220 --> 00:38:54.620 Instead of us saying, we're going to make all these connections, we're going to empower you to make a difference right where you're at. 00:38:54.680 --> 00:38:58.920 And that's so much more biblical, as we've discovered, than anything else. 00:38:59.300 --> 00:39:02.120 We're going to give you the tools to be a disciple maker right where you're at. 00:39:02.240 --> 00:39:04.860 We're going to call it being a neighborhood champion. 00:39:05.380 --> 00:39:08.000 But really, you're being a disciple maker right where you're at. 00:39:08.220 --> 00:39:11.000 And it may not ever look the same for us, and that's okay. 00:39:11.100 --> 00:39:16.740 And, you know, the crazy thing in Texas, Jeff, is every restaurant I drive by right now has reopened. 00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:22.640 There's only one restaurant in Texas that has not reopened their dining area, Chick-fil-A. 00:39:23.520 --> 00:39:27.060 It makes me wonder, will Chick-fil-A ever reopen their dining area? 00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:29.340 I have no idea, but they don't have to. 00:39:29.900 --> 00:39:36.420 They have pivoted and shifted, and they are the best drive-thru experience in the country. 00:39:36.700 --> 00:39:43.320 And I don't know if they ever need to reopen because they saw a need, and they improved what they already had. 00:39:43.460 --> 00:39:45.340 And now they're probably not going to go back. 00:39:45.340 --> 00:39:50.280 And I just think about us as a church is we don't have to go back to how it was. 00:39:50.820 --> 00:39:55.240 We can make improvements and stay in those improvements and just figure it out as we go. 00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:56.160 We don't have to be perfect. 00:39:56.500 --> 00:39:58.060 We need to be real and authentic. 00:39:58.560 --> 00:40:01.460 And we're comfortable in that place. 00:40:01.660 --> 00:40:06.560 It's an awkward place to be in, but we're comfortable living in that learning and growing space. 00:40:08.200 --> 00:40:09.360 I love this. 00:40:09.420 --> 00:40:12.540 This is arguably, for me, one of my favorite podcasts I've recorded. 00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:17.220 I'm not even sure, 150 probably plus conversations at this point. 00:40:17.580 --> 00:40:26.160 And I just, and honestly, it's because a lot of this stuff with the fidgetal mindset and the coaching and church's platform and all of this stuff, 00:40:26.540 --> 00:40:29.060 I feel like I have these conversations with churches. 00:40:29.580 --> 00:40:32.620 And sometimes the churches are like, Jeff, you're completely wrong. 00:40:33.340 --> 00:40:36.360 Sometimes churches are like, Jeff, you are exactly right. 00:40:36.720 --> 00:40:38.180 We just can't do it. 00:40:38.340 --> 00:40:42.720 There's no way we can turn, change our culture and get there. 00:40:43.420 --> 00:40:48.080 And I don't want to say it's few because there's more and more as we're doing these fidgetal learning communities. 00:40:48.660 --> 00:40:51.800 But to hear, hey, Jeff, we're doing this. 00:40:52.160 --> 00:40:58.440 We're seeing success with it so much so that we want to carry this into the long haul, into the future. 00:40:58.940 --> 00:41:02.400 Like, Texas is 100% open up. 00:41:02.520 --> 00:41:06.340 The governor's like, everybody open your doors, get rid of the masks, everything's back to normal. 00:41:06.700 --> 00:41:10.740 And you're telling me stories about how Chick-fil-A isn't open and maybe that's okay. 00:41:10.860 --> 00:41:14.760 And you guys as a church, you're looking at digital, not as a stopgap. 00:41:14.860 --> 00:41:20.720 Hey, we can go back physical now, but it's, hey, maybe this is a method for us, 00:41:20.780 --> 00:41:23.800 one of many methods for us to effectively reach people. 00:41:24.260 --> 00:41:26.440 What does this look like long term? 00:41:26.600 --> 00:41:28.260 Like, where are you going with this thing? 00:41:28.260 --> 00:41:40.020 Wow, long term is continuing to do, we've always been a church that has a deep passion for community. 00:41:40.860 --> 00:41:43.260 So that's what's been driving everything we do. 00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:51.540 So long term for us, whether it's digital or physical, we have always wanted to create environments where people can be fully known and fully loved. 00:41:52.200 --> 00:41:56.060 And we will focus long term on groups. 00:41:56.520 --> 00:41:59.340 We'll continue to create great digital. 00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:04.600 I mean, we're in it for the long haul for our weekend services are all going to be live online. 00:42:05.140 --> 00:42:11.560 One of the things we did is where, and I'm not saying other churches were wrong, but it was different for us. 00:42:12.100 --> 00:42:16.100 Every one of our services we did on Sunday mornings during COVID. 00:42:16.940 --> 00:42:18.680 We did, we never prerecorded. 00:42:18.800 --> 00:42:22.560 We just felt there was something special with having that experience live. 00:42:22.720 --> 00:42:24.640 And again, it's not right or wrong, it's different. 00:42:25.120 --> 00:42:29.100 And we had a live pre and post time before every service. 00:42:29.100 --> 00:42:33.640 And we just felt like there was something with being able to connect with the people watching live. 00:42:34.140 --> 00:42:40.500 And then when we would rebroadcast those, say on a Sunday evening, having our teams there to still make connections in the chat. 00:42:40.640 --> 00:42:52.920 So I think for us, it's continuing to build opportunities for people to have authentic community, continuing to create spaces for people to exercise their gifts. 00:42:53.600 --> 00:42:57.540 And the challenge we've had is, is how do you serve digitally? 00:42:57.540 --> 00:43:00.960 And that's where we've been reaching in the dark of creating ways. 00:43:01.080 --> 00:43:05.000 If you're a digital member, you're an online member, here are the different ways you can volunteer. 00:43:05.520 --> 00:43:08.300 And we've thrown some out there and they were complete flops. 00:43:08.420 --> 00:43:11.120 We've thrown some out there and they worked phenomenal. 00:43:11.560 --> 00:43:16.640 But the area we have to grow on is how we can continually keep people engaged that are online. 00:43:16.640 --> 00:43:26.940 Because many of our church, if say you were a greeter and all of a sudden you showed up to greet every other Sunday and there's no longer an in-person service. 00:43:26.940 --> 00:43:29.360 Well, you've just lost your community and your connection. 00:43:30.240 --> 00:43:37.860 So for us, we're looking at ways to create community around groups that used to serve together and then new ways for them to serve. 00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:40.500 And it might be you're now a greeter in an online chat. 00:43:40.500 --> 00:43:45.060 But always pushing the envelope on how you can be involved. 00:43:45.320 --> 00:44:01.140 And one of the things, I'll tell you this, the thing that we get most excited about for the long haul is one of the best, this doesn't sound very digital, I guess it's analog and digital, is one of the best things we've done at our church is call every member at our church. 00:44:01.140 --> 00:44:07.020 Not just every member, every person who's ever visited our campus that we have a phone number for. 00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:11.240 Over the last year, every quarter, we've called everyone. 00:44:11.780 --> 00:44:14.200 And when I say everyone, I mean everyone. 00:44:14.620 --> 00:44:22.600 I'm talking into the thousands upon thousands and all we've done is we take our whole staff and we divide it up, say, hey, you've got a thousand, you've got two thousand. 00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:28.780 Here's what we're going to do over the next couple of weeks call and just call people and say, hey, this is Matt from One Community Church. 00:44:29.200 --> 00:44:32.140 Just want to see how we can pray for you today. 00:44:32.740 --> 00:44:34.660 And again, you talked about the need for prayer. 00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:39.560 These care calls have just unlocked so much in the life of our church. 00:44:39.660 --> 00:44:40.980 We discover needs we didn't know. 00:44:41.060 --> 00:44:43.140 We discover people who want to help out we didn't know about. 00:44:43.500 --> 00:44:47.060 We discover people who moved away and are still watching online. 00:44:48.040 --> 00:44:53.540 But that's been, I don't know where that fits in the physical and digital, but our calls have been relentless. 00:44:54.040 --> 00:44:56.180 And we've been making personal connections. 00:44:56.620 --> 00:44:58.780 And we're going to continue to do that. 00:44:58.860 --> 00:45:04.240 And it's this this blending of digital and physical is kind of where we're at. 00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:12.980 I don't think we'll ever be one or the other, but we'll continue to create create moments and experiences that people can latch on to and then help connect them. 00:45:14.460 --> 00:45:22.940 Yeah, I think there's more of a omni channel approach, maybe where people can interweave between the physical and digital. 00:45:23.600 --> 00:45:28.100 You can have somebody attend a physical small physical church service, a digital small group. 00:45:28.520 --> 00:45:29.960 Digital church service physical. 00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:39.520 And like, it's beautiful when those two channels work together because, you know, and this is just a reference and an example. 00:45:40.140 --> 00:45:46.140 Susie's a single mom with three kids who literally lives across the street from your broadcast campus. 00:45:46.820 --> 00:45:58.640 She's probably better off attending a physical service if possible on Sunday because she could use time alone to worship God without having to deal with the three kids. 00:45:58.860 --> 00:46:04.300 And the three kids are probably in a worship experience that's better suited for them specifically. 00:46:04.940 --> 00:46:07.720 And so being that type of person is great. 00:46:07.720 --> 00:46:22.880 Now, Susie, because she's a single mom with three kids, the, you know, the realistic nature of packing all three of those kids in the minivan, driving them halfway across Dallas for a physical small group on a school night probably is not the best option for Susie. 00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:30.400 And so even having her start to intermix digitally and seeing how those two can work together, love that. 00:46:30.540 --> 00:46:38.380 And as your church is even wrestling more and more with how do we honor the physical environments? 00:46:38.380 --> 00:46:41.460 How do we complement it with what the digital developed that strategy? 00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:49.300 How do we even look at more models, more modal approaches towards doing ministry with this church's platform? 00:46:49.700 --> 00:46:50.260 It's interesting. 00:46:50.380 --> 00:47:01.700 You know, in the whole thing of not having places to serve, I had a guy, excuse me, a lead pastor tell me this with another church, another church that has gone through the stadia digital things. 00:47:01.700 --> 00:47:22.200 And for them, their small groups have shifted towards more of what they call impact groups, where instead of having like the, what's the word I'm looking for, the content really being the focus of the small group, it's been more of service opportunities. 00:47:22.200 --> 00:47:32.720 And just yesterday, they were telling me that one of these impact groups, essentially one of the small groups adopted the local fire station. 00:47:32.720 --> 00:47:42.060 They went into whatever the lead guy at the fire station was, had the conversation, forgive me, I just, I don't know what the ranks are, but had a conversation with the guy. 00:47:42.100 --> 00:47:50.380 And he said, honestly, we could really use a chaplain and we would love just the opportunity to get prayer and support, maybe even do services here. 00:47:50.640 --> 00:47:56.560 And this small group is now, one of the volunteers, there's no staffing of this. 00:47:56.640 --> 00:47:59.160 There's no professional Christians that are a part of it. 00:47:59.240 --> 00:48:10.740 There's a volunteer chaplain who's now spiritually and shepherding and caring for the flock, the 25 employees here at this fire station. 00:48:10.740 --> 00:48:18.200 There are regular prayer meetings, there's regular services on the weekend, like the church's platform idea. 00:48:18.840 --> 00:48:26.160 The church has enabled these people and empowered them to go out and now be the church literally in a fire station. 00:48:26.740 --> 00:48:34.360 And this is just another opportunity to say, hey, maybe, maybe not being guest services, maybe there's something different. 00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:35.580 Maybe there's another option. 00:48:35.680 --> 00:48:36.000 I don't know. 00:48:36.060 --> 00:48:37.720 Like that, that may seem radical. 00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:45.980 Maybe it is better to eventually get the 25 people to come to a physical expression, but they're not coming now. 00:48:46.180 --> 00:48:52.020 And so you got to do at least what you can in that environment to build those relationships and connect with people. 00:48:52.260 --> 00:49:04.480 So as you guys are reinventing and thinking outside the box, I think that would maybe be a great opportunity for you guys as you're looking more at serving, trying to empower people and release them out. 00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:09.820 That, and you know, that's, people want to make a difference. 00:49:10.140 --> 00:49:15.620 We've learned that our church and everybody connected with our church wants to make a difference. 00:49:15.620 --> 00:49:18.300 And they're struggling with how to do that in today's world. 00:49:18.860 --> 00:49:21.020 And opportunities like that are phenomenal. 00:49:21.420 --> 00:49:31.060 Like you just said, that's any way that you can empower somebody to make a difference, whether it's a phone call or serving or going to a hospital or a fire station. 00:49:31.980 --> 00:49:37.720 Everything we can do as a church to provide those opportunities are just huge. 00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:40.340 And we've done, we've done quite a few of those too. 00:49:40.420 --> 00:49:43.920 And it's just finding as many opportunities and options as we can. 00:49:44.560 --> 00:49:47.120 I mean, that church's platform is huge. 00:49:47.160 --> 00:49:49.420 And I think that's the new world of where we're headed. 00:49:49.420 --> 00:49:54.080 And, and I'm excited about the challenge we have of what's in front of us. 00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:58.100 I'm not looking, I'm not, I don't want to go back to how it used to be. 00:49:58.260 --> 00:50:01.320 Our church, our pastor does, our team does not want to go back. 00:50:01.440 --> 00:50:07.960 We want to continue to explore the new ways that, that God has for us to reach this world and our community. 00:50:08.600 --> 00:50:08.860 Love it. 00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:09.420 Hey, yeah. 00:50:09.460 --> 00:50:16.040 So if you want more information on church's platform, go to the church.digital slash platform. 00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:19.660 The idea of Fidgetal, the Fidgetal Learning Communities. 00:50:20.120 --> 00:50:28.460 And honestly, I think this is what separates some of the things that Stadia is doing with Fidgetal with some of the other offerings that are out there with other organizations. 00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:35.820 I really don't, as I've looked at them, and I don't want to disparage, like I've got friends that are doing this in other space. 00:50:35.940 --> 00:50:43.420 But we Stadia, because multiplication is so important to us, because planting and starting new things is so important. 00:50:43.540 --> 00:50:57.060 This idea of Fidgetal really comes down to this idea of creating multimodal, creating new expressions in different areas and allowing your church to multiply physically, digitally, and whatever other method your church can come up with. 00:50:57.060 --> 00:50:59.480 So that's really the heart of this. 00:50:59.640 --> 00:51:07.440 And even hearing here, Matt, your story of how one community is doing this just, man, just warms the heart. 00:51:07.580 --> 00:51:08.600 I love this. 00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:14.160 I do want to, I'm up against time, so I just got a couple minutes for this question. 00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:18.040 I do want to touch on, because I want to deal with this later. 00:51:18.740 --> 00:51:26.780 Talk to me about some of the stresses, some of the challenges, some of the joys. 00:51:27.820 --> 00:51:28.260 Multicultural. 00:51:28.420 --> 00:51:34.520 Many of our churches, many of the digital churches, I don't know, and maybe this is even just education on my part. 00:51:34.520 --> 00:51:42.560 I don't know that it's a multicultural church as much as a monocultural stage expression with a multicultural audience. 00:51:43.340 --> 00:51:47.140 You know, what I hear from you, and this is a later conversation. 00:51:47.260 --> 00:51:48.500 I just want you to tease it here. 00:51:49.160 --> 00:52:00.620 What I'm feeling from one community is it's really more of a multicultural, not just in the stage, or not just from the audience, not just from the attenders, but even with the stage. 00:52:01.620 --> 00:52:08.660 What does that look like for you, like, as a church, being that multicultural approach? 00:52:08.820 --> 00:52:10.300 Is there tensions? 00:52:10.560 --> 00:52:11.200 Is there winds? 00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:14.420 Even in Plano, Texas, like, what does that look like? 00:52:14.660 --> 00:52:15.860 Wow, that's a good question. 00:52:17.240 --> 00:52:30.260 I would say one of the things we always look, and our pastor has been so good at this, is if what we're preaching and teaching can only be applied in North America, 00:52:30.260 --> 00:52:31.900 then we've got more work to do. 00:52:33.280 --> 00:52:39.380 So everything we talk about when we talk about money, when we talk about discipleship, when we talk about groups, 00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:42.700 if it only works in our country, then we've missed the mark. 00:52:43.520 --> 00:52:50.800 So we've always got to look at really what is the timeless biblical principle that we're trying to address. 00:52:51.180 --> 00:52:55.700 And once you do that, you begin to then hit all different cultures. 00:52:55.700 --> 00:53:06.400 And I would say this, too, for us, when last year, when the George Floyd situation happened, 00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:09.900 our church, being right where we're at, said, you know, we need to make a difference. 00:53:10.380 --> 00:53:14.340 And we had many other churches from us say, what are you guys going to do? 00:53:14.780 --> 00:53:19.920 And we held in the middle of COVID in June in Texas at the local courthouse. 00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:21.580 We said, we're going to do a unity rally. 00:53:21.580 --> 00:53:31.400 And we got together and our pastor rallied about 10 or 15 African-American pastors, 10 or 15 white pastors, 10 or 15 pastors from other cultures. 00:53:31.520 --> 00:53:35.980 And we just got our churches together and had 3,000 or 4,000 people show up for a prayer rally. 00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:45.020 And anything we could do to bring cultures together and to have others see it going on in our church has just been a bonus. 00:53:46.260 --> 00:53:54.600 You know, Jesus did not say that the world will know we are his disciples because of how much we know, but it's because of the love we have for each other. 00:53:55.040 --> 00:53:58.700 So we say that and we live that. 00:53:58.700 --> 00:54:04.740 And even in the midst of other cultures, church is done differently in different cultures. 00:54:05.460 --> 00:54:07.080 There's different expressions. 00:54:07.740 --> 00:54:13.500 And we try to, the best we can, live in all as many different ones as we can. 00:54:13.940 --> 00:54:15.660 And sometimes that gets messy. 00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:17.960 It doesn't always go just right. 00:54:18.560 --> 00:54:22.560 But we've fought to have a diverse staff, to have a diverse style, 00:54:22.560 --> 00:54:26.100 and to try to have principles that reach across different cultures. 00:54:26.800 --> 00:54:28.280 And we think it makes a big difference. 00:54:28.460 --> 00:54:29.920 So that's what we're trying to do. 00:54:30.380 --> 00:54:31.660 We got a long ways to go. 00:54:32.220 --> 00:54:32.900 That's beautiful. 00:54:33.480 --> 00:54:35.100 Yeah, we're going to bring you back on. 00:54:35.220 --> 00:54:36.640 We're going to unpack that. 00:54:36.800 --> 00:54:42.700 If it just works in one country, if it just works for one culture, we're missing it. 00:54:42.720 --> 00:54:45.220 Go back to the drawing board and keep going. 00:54:46.240 --> 00:54:47.040 That's beautiful. 00:54:47.780 --> 00:54:49.400 This has been a fun conversation. 00:54:49.400 --> 00:54:53.820 Like, I've loved hanging out with you and digging through this herein. 00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:57.040 I love what One Community Church is doing. 00:54:57.580 --> 00:55:03.140 And so we'll, Matt, we'll include some contact information for you in the show notes. 00:55:03.260 --> 00:55:05.760 Some of our people may have questions. 00:55:06.020 --> 00:55:09.320 And so you might get bombarded by people on social media wanting to know 00:55:09.320 --> 00:55:13.140 how to get people to donate money to give a car so they can give it away on YouTube. 00:55:13.140 --> 00:55:13.800 There we go. 00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:20.060 But even like the multicultural things, we're going to revisit this. 00:55:20.120 --> 00:55:20.960 I don't know if it's Clubhouse. 00:55:21.040 --> 00:55:22.340 I don't know if it's another podcast. 00:55:22.680 --> 00:55:27.540 But like for me, that multicultural has been the thing that's tugging at my heartstrings. 00:55:27.600 --> 00:55:32.980 That's like, hey, this is one of the big hurdles that the church, the North American church, 00:55:33.100 --> 00:55:35.160 the Western Civilization Church, maybe we need. 00:55:35.360 --> 00:55:37.080 This is the next thing that we really need to tackle. 00:55:37.080 --> 00:55:41.060 So, hey, thanks for jumping on here. 00:55:41.440 --> 00:55:45.140 Maybe any last minute closing thoughts as we're landing the plane? 00:55:45.220 --> 00:55:45.660 What are you thinking? 00:55:45.900 --> 00:55:48.760 Yeah, no, I just, it's an honor for me to be a part of this conversation. 00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:51.100 It's an honor to grow, to learn. 00:55:51.260 --> 00:55:54.740 And I'd love to hear from everybody else learning just what you're doing. 00:55:54.880 --> 00:55:56.100 I just love learning. 00:55:56.480 --> 00:55:59.440 And really, our pastor, if you haven't looked him up, 00:55:59.460 --> 00:56:01.960 you need to look up Dr. Conway Edwards and see what he's doing 00:56:01.960 --> 00:56:03.480 and what he's got out there going on. 00:56:03.480 --> 00:56:07.260 Because he's really on the edge of trying to create what's going to be new 00:56:07.260 --> 00:56:09.420 and what's going to be lasting for churches. 00:56:09.620 --> 00:56:12.820 So, just grateful to be on here and learn with everybody today. 00:56:13.500 --> 00:56:13.900 Awesome. 00:56:14.040 --> 00:56:17.220 Yeah, we'll include some links to some resources on Dr. Conway Edwards. 00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:21.260 I've been very impressed with him as well in recent months, 00:56:21.340 --> 00:56:23.880 just as he's gotten more on my radar here in COVID. 00:56:24.140 --> 00:56:29.980 But, hey, for Matt, this is Jeff with the Church Digital and Stadia Church Planning. 00:56:29.980 --> 00:56:32.120 Thanks for joining us here on the pod. 00:56:32.180 --> 00:56:33.260 We'll see you next time here at the show. 00:56:33.480 --> 00:56:34.340 Y'all have a good day.