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For more 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:47.220 information and to find out how you can save 20%, visit thechurch.digital.com. 00:00:51.180 --> 00:00:56.120 Hey, welcome to The Church Digital Podcast. My name is Jeff. We've got a great episode coming up. Well, 00:00:56.820 --> 00:01:00.160 actually, truthfully, we're going to have a great series of episodes coming up because we're going 00:01:00.160 --> 00:01:06.160 to spend three weeks in a row doing a deep dive into First Capital Christian Church of Cordon, Indiana. 00:01:06.360 --> 00:01:11.120 Chances are you probably never heard of Cordon, Indiana, maybe First Capital Christian Church. 00:01:11.520 --> 00:01:16.760 If you remember, we talked with Tyler Sampson back in episode four of The Church Digital Podcast. It's 00:01:16.760 --> 00:01:22.680 actually one of the first episodes that we launched with. He's a church that he's doing, a small church, 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:29.380 but he's doing this great ministry of doing church online, online discipleship, but utilizing the online 00:01:29.380 --> 00:01:36.960 services to birth physical locations. And so what I wanted to do here with this and what we got with 00:01:36.960 --> 00:01:42.080 with the last episode is, hey, we learned about how Church Anywhere works and what it's like to birth 00:01:42.080 --> 00:01:47.640 these locations, but I want to hear the stories. I want to actually talk to the people who are at these 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:53.420 micro locations who's doing this ministry. And so we've got Brad Reed coming on the podcast who's 00:01:53.420 --> 00:01:58.040 no relation, although it's a great last name. His dad's actually Jeff Reed, and so there's some 00:01:58.040 --> 00:02:01.420 off-air jokes like, I'm your daddy, but we just cut that out of the broadcast. 00:02:01.580 --> 00:02:08.280 So we got Brad Reed, and we got Cindy Timmons, who are both volunteers who coordinate the ministry at 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:15.300 these micro locations. They're essentially campus pastors at these respective micro locations, and they 00:02:15.300 --> 00:02:22.220 are going to tell some phenomenal stories about how God is moving in the small, how God is doing some 00:02:22.220 --> 00:02:29.200 awesome things through a small church, creating small locations. And it's funny, there's these really 00:02:29.200 --> 00:02:33.520 powerful moments, especially at the end where we, well, you know what? I don't want to get there. 00:02:33.800 --> 00:02:38.600 I'm going to let them get there. So here you go. Here are some phenomenal stories from Church Anywhere. 00:02:39.000 --> 00:02:44.940 All right. Hey, so we're at the Church Digital Podcast, and I'm excited about this interview because 00:02:44.940 --> 00:02:50.220 I've got real live people that are doing ministry through Church Online here, and we're going to tell 00:02:50.220 --> 00:02:54.940 some stories, which by far is the favorite thing that I get to do here at the podcast. And so 00:02:54.940 --> 00:03:03.600 I've got Cindy Timmons, Tyler Sampson, and Brad Reed, all from First Capital Christian Church in Indiana, 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:09.700 Church Anywhere. We've talked about them before. Tyler, by the way, has been on the podcast before. It 00:03:09.700 --> 00:03:15.420 was one of the first podcasts we've had. By the way, Tyler, you don't know this, but you are the most, 00:03:15.540 --> 00:03:19.540 at the time of this recording, you are the most listened podcast through the Church Digital Podcast. 00:03:19.540 --> 00:03:28.740 All my wife. She's done it like that. Just basically reload, reload, reload, reload. Every device you have 00:03:28.740 --> 00:03:34.380 has listened to this podcast at one time or another. That's awesome. Hey, so before we get into the 00:03:34.380 --> 00:03:40.000 others, Tyler, man, just take a moment. Tell me a little bit about, let's say somebody hasn't listened 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:45.360 to episode four where they talked all about First Capital Christian. 30 seconds, man. Tell me the story 00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:54.660 the church. Yeah, so the church is about 800 people in a town of roughly 3,000 or so. We are on the 00:03:54.660 --> 00:04:00.740 outskirts of Louisville, Kentucky, about 30 minutes from Louisville, real small town. And so that's a 00:04:00.740 --> 00:04:08.280 unique situation in itself. About three years ago, we started doing an online campus. And from there, 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:14.700 we decided to do an online to an offline model. So we take the same kind of technology we use for an 00:04:14.700 --> 00:04:21.620 online campus, and we go and use that as a worship experience within a physical location. So that 00:04:21.620 --> 00:04:28.020 could be a home, it could be a nursing home, a jail, schools. Really, it's endless possibilities where 00:04:28.020 --> 00:04:34.420 that could be. That's awesome. And we're going to want to dive a lot into that online to offline and 00:04:34.420 --> 00:04:38.960 kind of the micro location. But I just want to make something clear because you glossed it over. 00:04:38.960 --> 00:04:44.020 So you've got about 800 people physically involved in the ministry of the church. That's including 00:04:44.020 --> 00:04:48.500 what I would call the broadcast center, the main campus, as well as the micro locations, 00:04:48.620 --> 00:04:52.820 the multi-site campuses that are... No, that's 800 on the broadcast location. 00:04:53.460 --> 00:05:00.880 Oh, that's 800 just at broadcast. Yeah. Somewhere around like 450-ish a week everywhere else. 00:05:02.420 --> 00:05:06.300 Okay. So straight up, you're not playing online. That's just physical bodies. 00:05:07.260 --> 00:05:15.920 So just clarity. You're in a town of 3,000, and you've got over 1,000 actively involved physically, 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:22.020 either at the main campus or in the physical locations, the micro locations that are around. 00:05:22.400 --> 00:05:22.660 Yeah. 00:05:23.180 --> 00:05:25.320 That's a phenomenal ratio. 00:05:25.980 --> 00:05:47.640 What do you attribute to... I mean, okay, Holy Spirit, God. I understand that. And I'm not... I don't want to downplay the Spirit of God moving among these people at the church. But like, what are some things that you've done to maybe bring some attention to that? Or how has that happened kind of up there at First Capital Christian? 00:05:48.820 --> 00:05:50.700 Oh, man. You guys can chime in. 00:05:50.700 --> 00:05:51.380 Loaded question. 00:05:51.780 --> 00:05:54.060 Yeah. They've all been here as long as I have. 00:05:54.780 --> 00:05:56.460 Cindy, Brad, what do you all think? 00:05:57.000 --> 00:06:21.000 I think a large part of it is because Harrison and Crawford counties are both very underprivileged counties. They're low-income areas that have a lot of poverty and outreach needs. And it was a niche that when we started filling it, word spread quickly. And everybody wanted to get involved and help. And the community just embraced the... 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:27.340 They did. They just opened their arms to us and let us in. It wasn't a battle. 00:06:27.760 --> 00:06:43.700 Yeah. I'll just say a quick story about that. About four, five years ago, there's a really, really impoverished school system called Heath, Washington, where it's like 87% of the families are on free lunch, free breakfast, that kind of thing. 00:06:44.620 --> 00:06:57.160 And we found out that they had no shoes, no Christmas gifts, nothing. But we found this out on like a Sunday morning. And so our senior pastor basically just got up without asking all of us and said, 00:06:57.620 --> 00:07:03.380 Hey, why don't we take up an extra offering and see if we can get enough to get these kids some Christmas presents? 00:07:03.380 --> 00:07:17.580 And our people, like that's the where we live. Like a lot of our people are under the poverty line, but we gave our normal offering plus enough that Sunday to get them, every kid, a new pair of shoes, a new sweatshirt, pair of pants, and a Christmas present. 00:07:17.940 --> 00:07:24.060 Every kid in the entire school. So that's just the, that's the type of, I don't know, it's different than any church I've ever been to. 00:07:24.060 --> 00:07:32.940 Like every church says they're really loving. We truly are. We're a super loving church. You can't walk in here and not feel loved. 00:07:33.460 --> 00:07:35.240 And we care about our community. 00:07:35.540 --> 00:07:35.680 Yeah. 00:07:36.340 --> 00:07:53.660 Okay. So, so that, that loving culture, that, that environment, that DNA you create, like that, that not only exists within the physical campus there, your broadcast campus there with First Capital, but I mean, it's, it's the way that it sounds like with, with Church Anywhere. 00:07:53.660 --> 00:08:01.540 It's literally overflowing out of the online campus, creating some of these, these new environments, right? These, these new campus locations. 00:08:01.840 --> 00:08:19.620 And so with Cindy and with Brad, the reason I wanted to bring them on the podcast to, to be part of this story is because they're leading some of these physical locations, these, you know, micro locations, these micro campuses, whatever the label your church wants to call them or what the church calls them today. 00:08:20.140 --> 00:08:28.600 They're leading these small locations that are meeting within the city up there in Indiana. Is that, is that correct? Is that the main gist? 00:08:29.180 --> 00:08:37.300 Yeah. Not everyone owns within the city. So Cindy's is, is in our, in our city. It's not super far from the church. Brad's is like a far away in a different time zone. 00:08:38.320 --> 00:08:42.060 Oh, that's awesome. So is that still within Indiana or is that even in another state? 00:08:42.260 --> 00:08:43.100 Yeah. Yeah. It's in Indiana. 00:08:43.100 --> 00:08:46.420 Cool. So Brad, what city are you in? 00:08:47.080 --> 00:08:53.980 Uh, we go, it's closest to tell city. It's about a, like you said, about 45 minutes to an hour drive. 00:08:54.360 --> 00:09:01.940 And so, yeah, it's a, yeah, it's time travel. We get to different time zone on our way there. We, uh, every Tuesday and it's, uh, 00:09:03.400 --> 00:09:11.920 I don't know. It's still small town feel, but it's a good little drive. We, we take the bus and we gather everybody together and we all ride down together. 00:09:11.920 --> 00:09:24.460 And so, yeah. So our volunteers for that location literally have to, it's, it's, it'd be a, basically an hour drive there, an hour service and an hour drive back, except you lose an hour on the way back. 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:31.900 So it's like a four hour time commitment every Tuesday. Um, they're willing to do that. 00:09:32.180 --> 00:09:40.460 They're busing back and forth every Tuesday to, to lead a service down. That's, that's great. Now tell, tell me about the service. 00:09:40.460 --> 00:09:44.520 Tell me about the people you're ministering to. What is, what does that look like there in tail city? 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:50.200 Well, it's, uh, it's the Branchville correctional facility. It's a prison, a level two. 00:09:50.940 --> 00:09:57.300 They, um, I mean, it's, it's hard to get in the door. We have to take, take our shoes, our belt off. 00:09:57.340 --> 00:10:05.240 It's like, it's like going to the airport and every time we go in and out and it's, um, well, they, uh, a guard has to let us in. 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:15.500 There's a chapel on campus, a small building where we get to go have worship service and a big projector screen comes out of the ceiling and we show our service on the projector. 00:10:15.500 --> 00:10:24.120 And on an average, we might get 25 inmates on a regular Tuesday, but we, uh, once a month, we open it up to the whole campus. 00:10:24.380 --> 00:10:29.720 And sometimes we can get the 250 to 300 number show up for that particular service. 00:10:30.060 --> 00:10:34.160 So we do get to do, uh, two different kinds of things there. 00:10:34.660 --> 00:10:42.240 Okay. So why, why is it once a month, it's opened up to everybody? Like what's, what's the difference there? Just operationally. 00:10:42.440 --> 00:10:55.500 When it first started, we, uh, cause at, at Branchville, they have, uh, six different dorms and each one is kind of catered to a different type of guy. 00:10:55.500 --> 00:11:05.200 You know, like, you know, you got your real rowdy criminals and then you got your good behavior guys and then you got different, uh, working different programs and, you know, educational type things. 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:10.740 So when we first started going, we just got the one dorm or one small good behavior dorm. 00:11:11.160 --> 00:11:27.600 And when the guys get out of that dorm and moved to different dorms, they were complaining and telling, you know, the chapel at the facility that, uh, they really missed the church anywhere service that when they got moved out, they were upset that they couldn't keep coming. 00:11:27.920 --> 00:11:32.520 So they opened it up once a month to we, it's available to everybody. 00:11:32.520 --> 00:11:35.420 They may have to sign up for it and they have to get okayed. 00:11:35.420 --> 00:11:45.160 Like they're not just going to let any guy come, you know, they sign up for a reason and they check the list to make sure we're not going to have a problem or anything. 00:11:45.160 --> 00:11:49.100 So, but yeah, the, the one, once a month service can get pretty big. 00:11:49.160 --> 00:11:54.240 It's a, we get the gymnasium and it's, it's a loud rowdy group. 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:55.620 I mean, it's a big group of guys. 00:11:56.020 --> 00:11:56.460 Yeah. 00:11:56.560 --> 00:12:02.380 With that, it's, it would be nearly impossible with the current staffing at the prison to do that every week. 00:12:02.520 --> 00:12:10.520 Um, like there's been multiple times where we've had to kick out like 30 plus gang members that are trying to have a gang meeting during church or something like that. 00:12:10.860 --> 00:12:18.580 So anytime you open up, uh, an entire prison to come into one area, uh, people will take advantage of it to use it for their own agenda. 00:12:18.580 --> 00:12:22.940 But like a vast, vast majority of those services have gotten exceptionally smooth. 00:12:23.180 --> 00:12:29.440 And, um, uh, if there's 300 guys there, 250 of them are there for, for the reason that you want them to be there for. 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:31.400 That's, that's awesome. 00:12:31.880 --> 00:12:34.920 So now Cindy, you, you lead one as well. 00:12:34.920 --> 00:12:41.740 And you, you lead it there in Conroy in, in the main city, you know, so, um, Corden, I'm sorry, Corden, apologies. 00:12:42.400 --> 00:12:45.860 Uh, so Brad's at Brad's different town doing prison ministry. 00:12:45.860 --> 00:12:49.560 Tell me a little bit about what, what your church anywhere looks like. 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:52.240 Um, we are at a local nursing home. 00:12:52.380 --> 00:12:56.560 I think we have three or four nursing homes that we do church anywhere. 00:12:56.560 --> 00:13:02.740 Three, three, this one's unique though, um, but I am at one that is a Huntington's disease unit. 00:13:03.280 --> 00:13:21.820 So there are a lot of different challenges there because, um, Huntington's is, um, something in this country that there are very few nursing homes that can, um, have those individuals as residents and they have different, um, disabilities. 00:13:21.820 --> 00:13:35.840 As far as some can't speak, some are bed bound, some are wheelchair bound, some walk it, each person is a different individual that you have to learn how to communicate and work with while you're there. 00:13:37.700 --> 00:13:38.180 Wow. 00:13:38.360 --> 00:13:48.460 So Tyler, I know Tyler, we talked about this in the, in the last, um, when you were on an episode four and, and just my heart went out even at this idea of. 00:13:48.980 --> 00:13:55.020 So you're doing a church service in a, in a, a, a Huntington's, uh, a rehab center, right? 00:13:55.040 --> 00:13:57.560 Like this is where they're recovering for it. 00:13:57.680 --> 00:14:05.560 So I, I don't, I mean, I know about this much of, of Huntington's, um, like what's the, what's the prognosis for somebody like this? 00:14:05.640 --> 00:14:09.600 It is a terminal illness that at some point will take their life. 00:14:09.760 --> 00:14:16.620 Um, we have actually, um, had two residents that we led to Christ that passed away shortly thereafter. 00:14:16.620 --> 00:14:26.420 And it was amazing getting to know the families along that process because they then became involved with us and got to know us. 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:34.680 Um, one of our individuals actually helped at the funeral, which led our pastor to leading that service. 00:14:34.680 --> 00:14:39.120 And just bonding with the families involved when that happens. 00:14:39.460 --> 00:14:47.160 So get this, the guy that one of those people that were led to Christ, the guy that led him to Christ had never made that decision himself. 00:14:47.920 --> 00:14:54.100 So he was, he loved the idea of going out and helping people and, and, and going out beyond the church walls. 00:14:54.400 --> 00:14:55.920 He'd been to church for a while. 00:14:56.220 --> 00:15:02.600 He'd never made that decision for himself, but he, he led this guy at a church anywhere location to Christ. 00:15:02.600 --> 00:15:13.980 And then through that, after the guy passed away, um, one of our pastors ended up doing the service and, uh, the person's family was like, Hey, have you ever heard about this thing called church anywhere? 00:15:14.160 --> 00:15:15.620 That's how the guy got led to Christ. 00:15:15.620 --> 00:15:17.840 And Donnie's like, yeah, that's, that's where I work. 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:19.760 And so, yeah, it's bizarre. 00:15:20.500 --> 00:15:21.220 Pretty amazing. 00:15:21.940 --> 00:15:22.840 Really weird. 00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:31.840 But it's, it's what, what I love about, about both y'all stories is, is you've got, you know, Brad, you got Brad reaching into a prison system. 00:15:32.020 --> 00:15:41.720 You've got Cindy reaching, reaching into Huntington's, um, I mean, rehab, whatever that, that is where people are looking at. 00:15:42.040 --> 00:15:45.780 I mean, this is, this is the downside of society. 00:15:45.780 --> 00:15:48.760 They're, they're struggling with a fatal disease. 00:15:48.760 --> 00:15:56.240 They're, uh, locked up and they're, they're separated from, and there, there's a lot of, uh, of darkness and bleakness in there. 00:15:56.340 --> 00:16:09.820 And, and what I love about first capital is their desire here to, to take the gospel, to take church to these people, not making them come in, but being very missional in going out. 00:16:09.820 --> 00:16:21.960 And, and so, yeah, Cindy, you, you talked about, um, you know, leading some to Christ and a couple like right before they died, uh, being, being part of that, uh, man, I'd love to hear another story. 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:29.240 Like, like what, tell me somebody that that's gone through something like that, a life change, uh, type of scenario. 00:16:29.500 --> 00:16:43.780 Well, we see that almost weekly, but I think the thing that moves us the most, we invited Tyler to one of our services and I think he was even stunned because you have to remember that some of these individuals can't talk. 00:16:43.780 --> 00:16:56.240 A lot of them can't walk, but in the middle of a service, when we're doing praise and worship, we have individuals standing up, hands in the air, praising the Lord and thanking him and singing to him. 00:16:56.860 --> 00:17:01.900 So the impact, you know, they're not the ones being blessed by this. 00:17:02.060 --> 00:17:02.620 We are. 00:17:02.860 --> 00:17:03.440 It just. 00:17:03.700 --> 00:17:05.060 Tell them how they stand up though. 00:17:05.120 --> 00:17:06.380 That's the powerful part of this. 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:10.220 They really don't. 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:26.400 They stand up and one of us are always behind them or next to him, holding them up and holding onto them and praising the Lord with them because they don't have the ability to stand up on their own because they're wobbling with their hands in the air, singing his name. 00:17:26.700 --> 00:17:26.820 Yeah. 00:17:26.860 --> 00:17:38.740 It made me super emotional when I saw it for the first time because this, this idea of I'm watching these people who have taken this medium of, of technology, which who would have thought 15 years ago? 00:17:38.740 --> 00:17:41.360 And then we would be able to lead someone to Christ through a video. 00:17:42.500 --> 00:17:47.400 And I'm watching this person who's going to eventually have a new body through Christ. 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:49.760 But it's like, this, this is only temporary. 00:17:49.900 --> 00:17:54.900 I'm going to have to hold you up for a little bit, but one day we get to stand beside each other and we get to worship him face to face. 00:17:55.280 --> 00:17:56.080 So powerful. 00:17:56.640 --> 00:17:57.840 Just unbelievably powerful. 00:17:59.860 --> 00:18:00.260 Wow. 00:18:00.740 --> 00:18:03.800 And so, but it's a completely different serving experience, right? 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:21.540 So, you know, over here at, at Hodgkin's rehab, I mean, they're, they're uplifting and physically connecting with the people, you know, over in Brad's side, over in the prison, you're probably not getting touchy feely over, over on that side. 00:18:21.580 --> 00:18:21.760 Right. 00:18:21.760 --> 00:18:27.040 So like, like what, what does serving look like over at, at, at the prisons? 00:18:27.380 --> 00:18:32.840 Well, for the, for the guys coming for the very first time, they are a little standoffish. 00:18:32.920 --> 00:18:41.680 They, they do want to sit in the back row with their arms crossed and just sort of, sort of feel us out, you know, and see, you know, what they're, they're not opening up right away. 00:18:41.940 --> 00:18:48.260 But, but that being said, you come two or three times and you'll see these guys crying. 00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:49.740 I mean, they're, they're ready to share. 00:18:49.860 --> 00:19:01.040 After the service, we break into small groups and just maybe three, four or five guys and a volunteer sit in a circle and just discuss the service or discuss, you know, their life or what they're going through. 00:19:01.180 --> 00:19:04.500 And some of these guys really do get to open up. 00:19:04.500 --> 00:19:16.860 And I've, I've heard them say, uh, you know, a handful of guys say they really enjoy our church service the most because we do that because we're there to sit beside them and talk with them. 00:19:17.100 --> 00:19:22.120 And we're not just coming in, shaking the Bible at them, tell them they need to straighten up or go to hell. 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:26.700 You know, we're there to every service. 00:19:26.780 --> 00:19:29.200 I tell them you're now a member of first capital church. 00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:33.480 We want you to come to our church and we, we don't ask them what they're in there for. 00:19:33.480 --> 00:19:35.580 That's, that's not why we're there. 00:19:35.680 --> 00:19:36.920 We're there to talk about Jesus. 00:19:37.120 --> 00:19:41.080 We're there to show them a new way, you know, give them that new hope. 00:19:41.820 --> 00:19:51.340 And, uh, these guys, there's, I have several, uh, relationships through Facebook with guys who have gotten out of jail, gotten out of prison and still contact us. 00:19:51.380 --> 00:19:57.100 So they're going through their own transition into a new life and they, uh, we continue contact. 00:19:57.100 --> 00:20:05.520 We have a couple of them now that come every week to, uh, to our, our main location, um, that have gotten out of Branchville that we're at church anywhere and they got out of prison. 00:20:05.520 --> 00:20:07.620 Now they come physically to first capital. 00:20:08.060 --> 00:20:08.460 Absolutely. 00:20:09.140 --> 00:20:18.840 One Tuesday, one Tuesday night we were there and a guy came and, uh, asked me about Corden and he, uh, actually moved to a halfway house in town. 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:22.940 And the very next week I seen him at church, here he was. 00:20:23.120 --> 00:20:31.380 And I, I, I didn't recognize him cause he was wearing, you know, regular clothes and he had all gone up and I was like, didn't we, don't I know you? 00:20:31.460 --> 00:20:38.660 And it was like church anywhere, you know, and it's really an amazing thing to, he, he served communion a couple of weeks ago here at our church. 00:20:38.660 --> 00:20:44.700 I mean, it's to see a guy walk out of prison and be a member of what we got going on here. 00:20:44.800 --> 00:20:45.340 It's pretty cool. 00:20:46.160 --> 00:21:11.260 You know, what, what I love about this is, is these are just two different expressions of, uh, of, of physical, I'll be really three different expressions where you've got a, a, a, a physical church building traditional in, in its, in its ministry model, people gathering together, coming to a service on Sunday, but they've done something, um, non-traditional, something abstract of broadcasting their services online. 00:21:11.260 --> 00:21:24.040 And, and, and everybody's doing that or more and more people are doing that probably said a little more accurate, but what First Capital has done is they've taken the next step to, uh, to start to create physical communities out of that. 00:21:24.040 --> 00:21:37.160 And, you know, what we learned last week, uh, Cindy, or the last time we talked episode four about this, where there was actually a nurse who was the one who started the, the, the, the, that, and kind of like capitalized that. 00:21:37.160 --> 00:21:40.220 And, and, uh, Tyler said, like, tell me, tell me a little bit. 00:21:40.260 --> 00:21:41.640 I just, I love that story so much. 00:21:41.640 --> 00:21:42.480 I want to hear it again. 00:21:42.860 --> 00:21:46.140 Like how, how did it actually start there in the Hodgkin's rehab? 00:21:46.860 --> 00:21:52.560 I was monitoring the, um, the, the, I think Facebook live feed or it might've been CHOP, one of the two. 00:21:53.040 --> 00:21:58.860 Um, and, um, our online care team member was like, Hey, check out this, this message we just got sent to us. 00:21:59.000 --> 00:22:01.940 And it was a picture of the, the rehab center. 00:22:01.940 --> 00:22:06.920 And there was like 17 people gathered around the iPad watching the service. 00:22:07.280 --> 00:22:08.920 And I was like, what's going on here? 00:22:08.980 --> 00:22:17.280 And so I messaged the person back and, uh, it turns out that she had, um, I mean, I personally know her like from church, um, but she hadn't been to church in a long time. 00:22:17.400 --> 00:22:20.160 And it turns out she had been scheduled to work like every Sunday. 00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:25.400 So she started on her lunch break, um, requesting that time for a lunch break. 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:29.140 So she could tune in and more and more people were like, Hey, I'd like to watch that with you. 00:22:29.320 --> 00:22:35.660 And so, um, I approached Cindy, um, because she, uh, recently became retired. 00:22:35.660 --> 00:22:42.080 So, and, um, yeah, so at the time she was going through, um, a program to become a chaplain. 00:22:42.400 --> 00:22:46.960 Um, and so I was like, this would be the perfect person to get on board with meeting one of these church anywhere spots. 00:22:47.140 --> 00:22:50.380 And so I approached her and I thought it was a nursing home. 00:22:50.520 --> 00:22:52.780 We had no idea it was a place for Huntington's disease. 00:22:53.380 --> 00:22:56.920 Um, and so, uh, she was on board to start a nursing home site. 00:22:57.400 --> 00:23:01.460 And then we found out it was Huntington's disease and, um, we just kind of went from there. 00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:03.100 They had me from the first day. 00:23:03.100 --> 00:23:03.740 Oh my gosh. 00:23:03.800 --> 00:23:07.700 You talk about love, like our congregation shows love, but those are the people at that place. 00:23:08.120 --> 00:23:09.860 Love you like nobody else, man. 00:23:10.120 --> 00:23:12.560 Every week I get hugs and told I love you. 00:23:12.700 --> 00:23:14.100 And when are you coming back? 00:23:14.180 --> 00:23:20.620 And it's funny because we still have, um, employees that work there that will come in and sit down 00:23:20.620 --> 00:23:26.380 with us while we're doing the broadcast and doing the praise and worship because they want to be there. 00:23:26.480 --> 00:23:28.480 We do communion after the service. 00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:31.520 We pray with each individual that needs prayer. 00:23:32.020 --> 00:23:34.120 Um, we've prayed with the nurses over there. 00:23:34.340 --> 00:23:36.600 Anyone that wants to be a part of it. 00:23:36.660 --> 00:23:42.040 We've had a couple of them have family members there that joined in when they came in just 00:23:42.040 --> 00:23:45.000 because they could see the Lord in the room. 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:46.580 So they wanted to be a part of it. 00:23:46.840 --> 00:23:49.620 Cindy and her husband, Mike have gone like way over the top. 00:23:49.700 --> 00:23:50.620 Awesome with this. 00:23:50.620 --> 00:23:56.180 Um, so at Christmas last year, um, they did the normal service and then they had one of 00:23:56.180 --> 00:23:58.120 the people on our creative arts team. 00:23:58.120 --> 00:24:03.640 That's an actor, a super, super talented actor, um, come in and be Santa Claus and got every 00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:05.840 single person at the place a Christmas gift. 00:24:05.980 --> 00:24:06.520 It was. 00:24:06.560 --> 00:24:08.040 And it was like the best Christmas ever. 00:24:08.140 --> 00:24:08.980 It was amazing. 00:24:09.280 --> 00:24:16.820 It's like, if you can imagine, you know, Huntington's patients, most of them are still pretty sharp. 00:24:17.120 --> 00:24:21.160 They understand what's going on and they communicate to the best of their ability. 00:24:21.340 --> 00:24:25.860 But when Santa walked in that room, it was like they were five-year-old kids. 00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:29.900 They were just thrilled, hugging on him, loving on him, excited. 00:24:30.580 --> 00:24:32.040 It, it made their day. 00:24:32.200 --> 00:24:33.840 They absolutely loved it. 00:24:33.920 --> 00:24:36.000 We heard about it every week for weeks. 00:24:36.220 --> 00:24:40.880 I guess what I would say with that is, and Brad, you can absolutely attest to this, that 00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:44.700 like the platform we were using is this online model. 00:24:44.700 --> 00:24:47.800 Um, the church anywhere sprouted from online services. 00:24:47.800 --> 00:24:50.920 We're using technology, but it's not about technology. 00:24:50.920 --> 00:24:52.800 Like it's about relationships. 00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:55.320 One hundred percent, even, even online. 00:24:55.320 --> 00:25:01.000 I can give an example of a guy named Simon, um, from the UK, um, who lives in a town that 00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:05.600 just doesn't have a modern style of worship, uh, anywhere in, in his town. 00:25:05.700 --> 00:25:08.280 It's very liturgical, um, lots of Catholic churches. 00:25:08.800 --> 00:25:13.900 Uh, and so each week we meet on a zoom call, much like this, um, just to hang out and talk 00:25:13.900 --> 00:25:16.280 about Jesus because he watches us online each week. 00:25:16.420 --> 00:25:21.900 So like for me, the relationship side of that, even with an online person is so much more 00:25:21.900 --> 00:25:24.040 powerful than the technology piece. 00:25:24.040 --> 00:25:27.460 And I say, Brad, cause you get like a million stories of the relationship part of that. 00:25:27.460 --> 00:25:28.480 That's, that's what ours is. 00:25:28.580 --> 00:25:33.540 Like I said, the first time we go, they're very standoffish, but the very next Tuesday 00:25:33.540 --> 00:25:35.120 we come in and they're hugging us. 00:25:35.180 --> 00:25:36.720 They're so happy to see us again. 00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:40.320 And it just, they can't wait to see what we're going to do next. 00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:46.800 And I have to, before I forget, Cindy was talking about Christmas and we, uh, bringing Santa 00:25:46.800 --> 00:25:51.460 and bringing things into a prison on Christmas is a little more difficult, but we, uh, we were 00:25:51.460 --> 00:25:53.080 able to bring cookies and milk. 00:25:53.340 --> 00:25:58.080 And, uh, we, that's the only time we've got to do communion in the prison to bring, you 00:25:58.080 --> 00:26:01.200 know, cause we can't very well bring food and drink in there very easily. 00:26:01.520 --> 00:26:06.320 And, uh, that, that service, like you said, weeks and weeks and weeks later there, I still 00:26:06.320 --> 00:26:13.100 overhear guys talking to the guys saying, yeah, man, one time they brought in milk and in prison 00:26:13.100 --> 00:26:14.220 you get powdered milk. 00:26:14.220 --> 00:26:19.260 So we brought in like a cold gallon of milk and those guys were just, you know, weeping 00:26:19.260 --> 00:26:20.060 over milk. 00:26:20.520 --> 00:26:22.040 That's not an exaggeration. 00:26:22.740 --> 00:26:30.220 And, uh, talking about the relationships, the guy I speak to on Facebook very often, I can't 00:26:30.220 --> 00:26:32.380 mention church anywhere without him. 00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:33.220 Love you guys. 00:26:33.280 --> 00:26:33.800 Love you guys. 00:26:33.860 --> 00:26:34.920 Can't wait to see you guys. 00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:39.200 I mean, he, he's, you know, obviously when you get out of prison, you got a little bit 00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:42.440 of obligation and stuff, you know, parole to take care of. 00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:46.000 So he can't very well just hop in his car and come down. 00:26:46.340 --> 00:26:48.060 I think he's over an hour away. 00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:54.240 He can't just come see us anytime he wants, but he's like counting the days to when he can 00:26:54.240 --> 00:26:58.480 come to court and to be a part of an actual first capital service. 00:26:58.620 --> 00:27:00.520 They, uh, see it on the screen. 00:27:00.660 --> 00:27:03.540 They, they can't wait to come see what it looks like in real life. 00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:07.820 And that's, uh, I can't wait to watch them walk through the door one time. 00:27:08.060 --> 00:27:10.060 Um, yeah, I love that thought. 00:27:10.120 --> 00:27:10.940 It just gets me. 00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:18.680 Talk to me about how you get the volunteers, like pitching, casting vision to the volunteers, 00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:24.060 what your volunteers look like in a given week as you're reproducing these church services 00:27:24.060 --> 00:27:26.660 and doing ministry, like what's that process? 00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:27.940 Typically by force. 00:27:27.980 --> 00:27:29.140 That's actually why I work out. 00:27:29.280 --> 00:27:30.100 I intimidate them. 00:27:30.100 --> 00:27:32.920 And then they just, they just, uh, they just volunteer. 00:27:33.300 --> 00:27:34.180 So we have sign up. 00:27:34.180 --> 00:27:34.460 Well done. 00:27:36.560 --> 00:27:40.580 He has sign up sheets, but some of the positions are harder than others. 00:27:40.840 --> 00:27:48.000 It's something we ran into over here because with them being, having the disease, people are 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:54.500 scared, you know, that's a huge leap to walk in there and try and communicate and take care 00:27:54.500 --> 00:28:00.880 of someone that has a disease that you know nothing about, but you still find there are 00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:04.600 people that know, they, they know that nudge. 00:28:04.760 --> 00:28:06.680 They, they feel it in their hearts. 00:28:06.780 --> 00:28:08.040 They know they have no choice. 00:28:08.040 --> 00:28:13.940 And we feel fortunate that we had a team of five people that would regularly come over there 00:28:13.940 --> 00:28:19.100 and assist us with that because it takes that many when you've got individuals that need help. 00:28:19.860 --> 00:28:22.880 I think our volunteers are scared for another reason. 00:28:23.120 --> 00:28:23.260 Yeah. 00:28:23.740 --> 00:28:29.560 And it's to hear you're going to walk into a prison and spend an hour or so with these guys 00:28:29.560 --> 00:28:31.560 because we're in the chapel with no guard. 00:28:31.820 --> 00:28:36.320 I mean, the guard lets us in the door and he leaves and we're in there with these 20, 00:28:36.380 --> 00:28:37.440 25 guys. 00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:44.280 Thank God for the Holy Spirit, you know, that he calms them down and shows them some love 00:28:44.280 --> 00:28:46.260 because, you know, you never know. 00:28:46.340 --> 00:28:51.320 I mean, we've never had an incident, but you just, you, it's kind of an unpredictable situation. 00:28:51.840 --> 00:28:55.960 But, uh, and a lot of, uh, to get into prison, you have to go through a class. 00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:59.980 We have to meet and, uh, the lady from the prison comes and walks you through. 00:29:00.100 --> 00:29:04.380 I think it's like a two hour thing of all these different rules and, you know, what you're 00:29:04.380 --> 00:29:07.860 not to do and what you have to do and all these different things. 00:29:07.900 --> 00:29:12.180 And I think some people are put off by that and not, not to mention the travel. 00:29:12.360 --> 00:29:17.320 I mean, some getting a volunteer at the prison is a little more difficult than somebody who's 00:29:17.320 --> 00:29:19.660 going 20 minutes down the road from the church. 00:29:19.660 --> 00:29:28.300 It's, uh, our volunteers are, uh, I'm a young guy, so I can say a little older and, uh, these 00:29:28.300 --> 00:29:32.760 fellows, you know, who, uh, who don't have to get up at 5 a.m. in the morning anymore and 00:29:32.760 --> 00:29:34.820 they can, they can do the late night on a Tuesday. 00:29:34.820 --> 00:29:39.260 And, you know, some of our, we've had some guys fall off because of health issues. 00:29:39.260 --> 00:29:43.540 They can't, they can't make the long trip anymore or they, you know, don't, aren't feeling up 00:29:43.540 --> 00:29:43.540 to it. 00:29:43.540 --> 00:29:50.520 But I have a pretty, uh, roughly 10 guys that are very loyal and pretty much every week 00:29:50.520 --> 00:29:51.980 they're right there on top of it. 00:29:52.320 --> 00:29:53.240 It's, it's funny. 00:29:53.320 --> 00:29:57.340 It started out with, we wanted it to be on a rotation and it's like, it's like we hurt 00:29:57.340 --> 00:29:59.760 their feelings when we tell them we can't come, they can't come a week. 00:29:59.940 --> 00:30:01.380 So they're like, no, I'm not doing a rotation. 00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:02.400 I'm coming every time. 00:30:02.580 --> 00:30:03.100 Are you kidding me? 00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:06.140 That's exactly how we're there every week. 00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:06.920 What do you mean? 00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:07.880 We're not going to rotate. 00:30:08.280 --> 00:30:09.340 You want to be there. 00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:16.800 Now, last we talked, Tyler, you had like 14 of these locations kind of scattered around. 00:30:16.860 --> 00:30:18.280 Is that, is that correct? 00:30:18.360 --> 00:30:19.320 What am I remembering? 00:30:19.320 --> 00:30:20.620 We have 16 now. 00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:25.500 And that's because that week was the week we were getting ready to launch two other jail 00:30:25.500 --> 00:30:25.880 sites. 00:30:27.180 --> 00:30:29.860 So those are the most recent or two jail sites. 00:30:31.400 --> 00:30:40.680 So your, your church of, you know, small, 800 person physical location in Cordon, Indiana, 00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:46.480 has three prison ministries that it's running, utilizing, I'm sorry, four. 00:30:46.740 --> 00:30:49.280 So this one, the two new ones, and then there's a fourth one. 00:30:49.500 --> 00:30:50.740 So you're running four prisons. 00:30:50.980 --> 00:30:55.780 So we have a separate female and male one at one. 00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:56.640 Gotcha. 00:30:56.800 --> 00:30:59.840 Only in another, a male only, and then another female only. 00:30:59.840 --> 00:31:03.320 So five totals sites, but that's within four prisons. 00:31:04.260 --> 00:31:07.920 That was, that was, that was, that was some screwy math, but I'm going to say you're doing 00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:15.160 five prison ministries by utilizing your online broadcast to push an online to offline model 00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:19.860 of creating biblical community at physical locations, utilizing church online. 00:31:20.180 --> 00:31:20.660 Yeah. 00:31:20.800 --> 00:31:21.300 I love you. 00:31:21.760 --> 00:31:24.160 Like that's, that's freaking phenomenal. 00:31:24.380 --> 00:31:26.060 I did just say, I love you on the podcast. 00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:26.780 You cut me off. 00:31:27.080 --> 00:31:27.700 Enjoy that. 00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:32.280 Like that's freaking awesome where you're now you're, you're moving and you're creating 00:31:32.280 --> 00:31:38.660 this physical locations, giving people an opportunity to serve like, like Brad and, and his, and 00:31:38.660 --> 00:31:45.280 his team driving in at 10 people who don't want to rotate off to drive to another time zone, 00:31:45.280 --> 00:31:50.860 to sit in a bunch of room with 25 prisoners without a guard. 00:31:51.060 --> 00:31:56.560 And that's, I mean, we, we, we told, we've talked recently about decentralizing ministry 00:31:56.560 --> 00:32:01.180 and taking ministry away from the pastors and empowering the people to do it. 00:32:01.460 --> 00:32:07.040 And, and what you've done here with Church Anywhere essentially is decentralizing that, that ministry. 00:32:07.040 --> 00:32:09.980 And now you're, you're empowering Brad and his people. 00:32:10.500 --> 00:32:13.580 Brad, how often does, does somebody from staff go with you? 00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:18.140 The once a month, the big service we have at the end of the month. 00:32:18.140 --> 00:32:23.940 So a big service, if it's 250, a staff person to go to that, but otherwise like, like Tyler 00:32:23.940 --> 00:32:27.200 and his crew trusts you to do the ministry, right? 00:32:27.620 --> 00:32:27.860 Right. 00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:29.300 I mean, that's, that's awesome. 00:32:29.840 --> 00:32:34.040 So where, where else are you in other than, than, uh, than the prison? 00:32:34.120 --> 00:32:36.640 So you're in four or five, six, 19 prisons. 00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:37.420 The number changes. 00:32:37.560 --> 00:32:38.140 That's cool. 00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:41.320 What, what else, um, what other areas are you in? 00:32:42.040 --> 00:32:46.000 When school is going on, we're in two elementary schools that are afterschool programs. 00:32:46.780 --> 00:32:52.520 Um, and that's a little different cause we design, um, curriculum specifically for that age group. 00:32:52.520 --> 00:32:59.580 So our youth band does the worship and, um, we have curriculum that me and a couple other 00:32:59.580 --> 00:33:02.720 people on staff film for the like service portion of it. 00:33:03.260 --> 00:33:06.360 Um, and so all of it's still done via this online offline model. 00:33:06.360 --> 00:33:08.420 It's just like modified for them. 00:33:08.940 --> 00:33:13.360 Um, we're in a youth shelter that has foster kids that don't have placements. 00:33:14.080 --> 00:33:17.180 Um, we're in a homeless camp. 00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:23.480 Um, we're in one home, like an actual neighborhood, um, three nursing homes. 00:33:24.540 --> 00:33:28.740 Um, I'm going to say any guys, a lot of institutions there. 00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:30.580 I think that's good. 00:33:31.380 --> 00:33:33.720 Homeless nursing home afterschool for kids. 00:33:33.820 --> 00:33:40.020 I've never in my life have I thought, Hey, let's create an afterschool program for kids. 00:33:40.020 --> 00:33:40.900 And it involved this. 00:33:41.040 --> 00:33:44.020 Like, I know it's not, that's not been on my radar. 00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:47.420 And you're, you've done that compared to the, you've done that twice. 00:33:47.780 --> 00:33:50.100 And that the youth shelter one is, is awesome. 00:33:50.360 --> 00:33:51.520 Uh, well, put it this way. 00:33:51.580 --> 00:33:55.660 My wife and I are in the process of adopting a 17 year old because we get sucked into this 00:33:55.660 --> 00:33:58.800 church anywhere location, uh, on Wednesday nights, which is awesome. 00:33:58.960 --> 00:33:59.240 Praise God. 00:33:59.940 --> 00:34:00.140 Yeah. 00:34:00.360 --> 00:34:07.000 But, um, it's been incredible to see, uh, we've got, I think around three teams of 10 00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:10.560 that rotate on every eight weeks, um, at that location. 00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:17.760 And it's literally just like 17 to 20, like 14 to 18 year old kids who don't have parents 00:34:17.780 --> 00:34:20.980 don't have a home that are living in an old elementary school. 00:34:21.180 --> 00:34:25.920 And we go every Wednesday night to have a meal with them, do small groups and, and worship 00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:26.600 together. 00:34:26.600 --> 00:34:29.940 But these people like these kids have never even heard of Jesus before. 00:34:30.460 --> 00:34:32.160 Um, it was amazing. 00:34:32.260 --> 00:34:33.700 We baptized four of them last year. 00:34:36.560 --> 00:34:40.320 So I'm going to ask this question and I know what the answer is, but I want you to say 00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:42.700 it because I want, I want the audience to hear this. 00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:45.480 How many people are on your staff? 00:34:45.980 --> 00:34:52.020 Like that, that deal with this exact issue that deal with church anywhere that work with 00:34:52.020 --> 00:34:52.280 this? 00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:55.980 Like what, I mean, you got all this video content to lead with these leaders. 00:34:55.980 --> 00:34:56.540 You got what? 00:34:56.780 --> 00:34:57.860 Six, eight people, right? 00:34:58.380 --> 00:34:58.780 Right. 00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:00.460 We have one. 00:35:02.700 --> 00:35:03.100 Tyler. 00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:03.880 That's just me. 00:35:04.120 --> 00:35:04.220 Tyler. 00:35:04.680 --> 00:35:05.720 So it's just you, right? 00:35:06.080 --> 00:35:06.280 Yeah. 00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:10.460 I mean, we have another guy that helps a lot with the jail, the jail part. 00:35:10.700 --> 00:35:16.460 Um, but he doesn't do anything with technology, but he's, he's, he and I have basically launched 00:35:16.460 --> 00:35:19.100 the, uh, the jail ministry part of it together. 00:35:19.100 --> 00:35:20.800 But other than that, it's pretty much just me. 00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:22.160 Our church. 00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:23.280 Yeah. 00:35:23.380 --> 00:35:27.100 I mean, we only have like 10 staff total, including part-time people. 00:35:27.480 --> 00:35:27.520 So. 00:35:28.180 --> 00:35:28.520 All right. 00:35:28.560 --> 00:35:30.280 Cause, so let, let's, let's unpack this. 00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:32.460 Cause that, that's, here's where it's at. 00:35:32.560 --> 00:35:37.300 I have this conversation with, I had this conversation with a, probably a 10,000 member 00:35:37.300 --> 00:35:42.260 church, um, and church, and it was like, Jeff, we really want to do it, but we want to 00:35:42.260 --> 00:35:44.880 get our, our, our content better first. 00:35:45.200 --> 00:35:48.540 And I'm like, you've got like 12 people on staff. 00:35:49.500 --> 00:35:53.100 Don't, and literally I'm like, don't use that as an excuse go. 00:35:53.700 --> 00:35:59.820 And, and, but so to, to your point, you got 10 people in the entire church, churches 00:35:59.820 --> 00:36:04.140 roughly, what'd you say it was around 800 or was that in my head for the, for the broadcast 00:36:04.140 --> 00:36:06.800 450 around somewhere else? 00:36:07.200 --> 00:36:09.680 Like what, what's your secret? 00:36:10.040 --> 00:36:14.380 Because most people are going to freak out and their heads are going to explode, um, managing 00:36:14.380 --> 00:36:14.820 all this. 00:36:14.920 --> 00:36:15.380 You're not. 00:36:15.660 --> 00:36:21.040 So what, what are the, this, I don't think it's a secret. 00:36:21.140 --> 00:36:24.340 I think that everyone has access to the same thing that we do. 00:36:24.340 --> 00:36:29.300 I mean, to, to say that God couldn't start something like this somewhere else is to put 00:36:29.300 --> 00:36:30.000 God in a box. 00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:34.920 And so I think that you asked at the beginning, what should, what first capital has done to 00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:38.320 grow and, uh, to the size that we are, and it's small in the town that we are. 00:36:38.720 --> 00:36:43.300 And I think our lead pastor has done a really good job for 15 years of not putting God in 00:36:43.300 --> 00:36:43.640 a box. 00:36:44.200 --> 00:36:48.140 Um, there's basically nothing that we can dream that we don't think God can do. 00:36:48.460 --> 00:36:54.260 And so instead of saying like, ah, that might be too big for us, it's like, God's big enough 00:36:54.260 --> 00:36:54.880 to do it. 00:36:54.900 --> 00:36:56.520 So let's just go ahead and do it. 00:36:57.020 --> 00:37:01.480 Um, yeah, we put our, our, our work into it and we plan and we're very, very intentional 00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:02.260 about things. 00:37:02.680 --> 00:37:08.660 But, um, I don't think I've never been to a, to a place where we don't limit God at all. 00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:12.080 Like there is no dream bigger than what God can make happen. 00:37:12.080 --> 00:37:14.400 And you can see it with what's happening with church anywhere. 00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:21.120 Like most, most churches our size would kill to have, uh, 39 first time decisions for 00:37:21.120 --> 00:37:23.700 Christ by June of a year. 00:37:23.700 --> 00:37:28.200 So like in the last six months, um, what we have just through church anywhere right now. 00:37:28.200 --> 00:37:30.760 And it's not a competition, but like, praise God for that. 00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:32.340 That's, that's a huge thing. 00:37:34.420 --> 00:37:40.480 Does the average person at, at your church that attends the, the, the cordon campus, the 00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:46.260 main broadcast center, like is, is church anywhere so much in the DNA and the vernacular that 00:37:46.260 --> 00:37:51.740 they understand that they know about all these stories, the, the ministry, the mission opportunities, 00:37:51.740 --> 00:37:55.700 you know, so often when you talk with church online these days, it's like, yeah, the physical 00:37:55.700 --> 00:37:56.700 church has no idea. 00:37:56.900 --> 00:38:00.840 What, what, what is that relationship between church anywhere and first capital? 00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:02.220 I think so. 00:38:02.600 --> 00:38:03.560 Everybody knows. 00:38:03.740 --> 00:38:04.480 Everybody knows. 00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:09.700 Randy will get up there and tell us to turn on our phones and say hello or do whatever 00:38:09.700 --> 00:38:11.860 so that they know we're online. 00:38:12.260 --> 00:38:16.840 They count it down and we go live and everybody's there with their phones. 00:38:16.860 --> 00:38:20.140 I think we, I think we talked on this on the last one, but there's four touch points every 00:38:20.140 --> 00:38:23.480 service that we mentioned church anywhere, church online within the service. 00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:29.700 So either you were asleep and missed it, or, you know, when you're here, it's pretty obvious. 00:38:29.700 --> 00:38:34.060 Plus in a room that only seats 500 people that have like four or five cameramen running around, 00:38:34.120 --> 00:38:35.940 it's pretty obvious there's something going on. 00:38:36.180 --> 00:38:36.200 So. 00:38:38.160 --> 00:38:38.980 Very cool. 00:38:39.100 --> 00:38:40.020 Well, I'm excited. 00:38:40.260 --> 00:38:45.520 In the next episode, we're going to have Randy on because, you know, lead pastors that 00:38:45.520 --> 00:38:51.680 have the vision and the understanding, even to go, okay, the best spot for you. 00:38:51.680 --> 00:38:55.160 You know, I had this conversation with the, with the pastor once and the conversation didn't 00:38:55.160 --> 00:38:57.160 go well, but it was something like this. 00:38:57.220 --> 00:39:01.000 It was like, pastor, you got to realize there's somebody in your audience where the best spot 00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:05.520 for them to be on a Sunday morning might not be in a pew watching you speak live. 00:39:05.660 --> 00:39:10.780 It might be outside of the building, leading a church service like this, or maybe inviting 00:39:10.780 --> 00:39:14.400 10, 15 people into their own home and doing church there. 00:39:14.900 --> 00:39:17.660 And like, that's, that rattles some cages. 00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:18.740 I'm just honest. 00:39:18.740 --> 00:39:24.500 It's like the, it's, it's still in that culture of, you have to have people there in the physical 00:39:24.500 --> 00:39:27.100 building or at the multi-site campus. 00:39:27.100 --> 00:39:32.240 But this idea of church online and getting it outside of the church building and into the 00:39:32.240 --> 00:39:32.660 community. 00:39:33.280 --> 00:39:39.300 How you guys have created this online, offline, or have utilized the online, offline model is, 00:39:39.300 --> 00:39:39.920 is phenomenal. 00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:46.140 And I can't wait because that, my, my opening question for, for Randy is like, okay, when, 00:39:46.140 --> 00:39:50.520 when Tyler casted this vision to you, what was your first thought? 00:39:51.520 --> 00:39:56.160 Because like pastors often get stuck on the first thought and they can't evolve through 00:39:56.160 --> 00:39:56.360 it. 00:39:56.360 --> 00:40:00.400 And like, I want to know was, did he think you were crazy or did he buy into it? 00:40:00.460 --> 00:40:01.520 And you, I want to hear it from him. 00:40:01.540 --> 00:40:02.420 Don't answer that question. 00:40:02.420 --> 00:40:09.460 But it's so exciting for me to, to be able to, to look into see these stories like this 00:40:09.460 --> 00:40:16.020 and how God's utilizing church online, how, uh, first capital is, is utilizing this, this 00:40:16.020 --> 00:40:24.400 distribution network to empower, uh, four or five, six prison ministries to, to empower a 00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:31.140 Hodgkin's rehab to empower 16 different locations around the, around the multiple cities and areas 00:40:31.140 --> 00:40:31.720 around there. 00:40:31.820 --> 00:40:39.120 So where you're getting, uh, 1250, I'm doing bad math, but 12, 1300 people attending, not 00:40:39.120 --> 00:40:44.000 that it's about the numbers, but you've got engagement out of a small church, relatively 00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:49.720 speaking, that shouldn't be doing this, but you guys don't realize you shouldn't be doing 00:40:49.720 --> 00:40:49.960 this. 00:40:50.060 --> 00:40:54.320 And if God's blessing your ministry, like, I just, I love, I love. 00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:57.400 What you're saying about Randy's like, God's bigger than this. 00:40:57.460 --> 00:40:59.960 Let's just go and, and God will take care of it. 00:40:59.960 --> 00:41:01.560 Like, you don't, you don't ask questions. 00:41:01.560 --> 00:41:04.960 You know, you don't doubt it's less birth communities. 00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:05.460 Let's go. 00:41:05.540 --> 00:41:06.340 Where else can we go? 00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:10.400 Like next time we talk, Tyler, I want to know where your next two locations are. 00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:11.060 Like, come on, man. 00:41:11.080 --> 00:41:12.460 Let's, what are you waiting for? 00:41:12.460 --> 00:41:18.100 And this very first started when, I guess when Tyler got the idea, when it all come together 00:41:18.100 --> 00:41:22.160 and they sat down and started having a conversation, it wasn't even called church anywhere 00:41:22.160 --> 00:41:22.500 yet. 00:41:23.040 --> 00:41:28.660 It's like, we're going to take our online service and start spreading it out somewhere. 00:41:29.140 --> 00:41:30.560 That was it that day. 00:41:31.120 --> 00:41:33.220 Uh, we got an email from a jail. 00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:37.320 Would, would y'all be able to bring a church service into our jail? 00:41:37.700 --> 00:41:40.800 And that's, that's God making these things happen. 00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:41.640 I totally forgot. 00:41:42.040 --> 00:41:42.360 Yeah. 00:41:42.520 --> 00:41:44.320 That's where it very first started. 00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:47.700 A little county jail about a half an hour away. 00:41:47.940 --> 00:41:50.500 And, and, uh, gotta, gotta give some praise. 00:41:50.580 --> 00:41:51.620 My wife runs that. 00:41:51.720 --> 00:41:53.480 That's the very first one that ever started. 00:41:53.700 --> 00:41:55.200 You want to talk about relationships. 00:41:55.200 --> 00:41:57.420 She is building relationships in that place. 00:41:57.560 --> 00:41:57.940 She is. 00:41:58.040 --> 00:42:01.840 But that's, that's how it all began was an email from a jail. 00:42:02.500 --> 00:42:04.980 Cause we were like, where are we going to do this? 00:42:05.060 --> 00:42:07.940 We, we got to come up with somewhere to take church anywhere. 00:42:07.940 --> 00:42:11.780 If we're going to, if we're going to make this thing happen, let's, let's hope God's going 00:42:11.780 --> 00:42:13.640 to show us what to do. 00:42:14.300 --> 00:42:21.440 And yeah, it was 9am when, um, we finally got the okay to pretty much try church anywhere. 00:42:21.560 --> 00:42:28.100 And I was in the office with Donnie, our, um, care pastor, and he gets an email from, from 00:42:28.100 --> 00:42:32.940 a chaplain at a local jail that says, um, we need some churches to come in and put on 00:42:32.940 --> 00:42:34.480 church for our, our, our women. 00:42:34.720 --> 00:42:37.440 And I was like, well, that's not a sign. 00:42:37.520 --> 00:42:38.900 I don't think, I don't know what is. 00:42:40.520 --> 00:42:45.040 I think the thing that keeps this growing because we hear it all the time. 00:42:45.040 --> 00:42:50.840 I'm sure you have, we have a lot of churches show up and make promises and they never see 00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:51.480 them again. 00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:58.840 Every time we walk in that door, someone comes and tells us how grateful they are that we 00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:01.140 are there every week as promised. 00:43:01.620 --> 00:43:05.420 We wouldn't make that promise if it wasn't important. 00:43:05.620 --> 00:43:10.600 And we're there, not just on our Sundays or the days that we are doing our church anywhere. 00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:16.260 We're in their lives during the week, you know, making contact one-on-one and making sure 00:43:16.260 --> 00:43:19.720 they're taken care of because we know that's what we're supposed to do. 00:43:20.120 --> 00:43:26.340 And, and I hope I'm not taking you way far over Jeff, but, um, we, it's not easy. 00:43:26.460 --> 00:43:29.860 I mean, like we, we all get super exhausted. 00:43:30.420 --> 00:43:34.960 Um, it's, it's a, it's a marathon and you push every single week to do it. 00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:37.560 Um, especially with the church, um, especially with the church, our size. 00:43:37.560 --> 00:43:39.060 I mean, you, you hit on it before. 00:43:39.060 --> 00:43:42.100 We don't have like 10 staff members that are like doing all this. 00:43:42.240 --> 00:43:45.820 It's me and a bunch of volunteers who are killing it. 00:43:46.240 --> 00:43:50.580 Um, but, but it's also very tiring, but it's so worth it on the other end of that. 00:43:50.580 --> 00:43:56.660 Um, but if, if we could cast this vision to other churches that like, Hey, what if we did 00:43:56.660 --> 00:43:59.880 empower people to go out and persevere for the gospel? 00:43:59.880 --> 00:44:02.740 Like we're told to do, um, because we make it so easy. 00:44:02.740 --> 00:44:04.120 So, so much to serve. 00:44:04.240 --> 00:44:08.320 Um, we have so many opportunities to serve that are like once every six weeks, once every 00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:09.780 eight weeks, and that's great. 00:44:10.100 --> 00:44:12.980 But like, what if we did teach our people to persevere through things? 00:44:12.980 --> 00:44:17.700 Like imagine the life change that would happen, not just within like local bodies, but entire 00:44:17.700 --> 00:44:18.320 communities. 00:44:18.940 --> 00:44:24.220 Um, I think that we could really make a big change for the kingdom, uh, with that same perseverance 00:44:24.220 --> 00:44:27.220 mindset that Church Anywhere has forced us to have here. 00:44:27.900 --> 00:44:29.380 How far is our outreach? 00:44:30.240 --> 00:44:33.540 Uh, the furthest one is two hours away and that's physical bodies. 00:44:33.540 --> 00:44:38.240 But the furthest person I know of that watches us every week from London. 00:44:39.940 --> 00:44:40.380 Wow. 00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:43.740 So your physical location is about two hours away. 00:44:44.300 --> 00:44:47.220 Are it, and that's, that's down in Kentucky as I recall, right? 00:44:47.380 --> 00:44:48.240 Do you have some or are they? 00:44:48.820 --> 00:44:51.060 Madison prison is the furthest one away. 00:44:51.460 --> 00:44:51.740 Madison. 00:44:51.860 --> 00:44:52.000 Okay. 00:44:52.660 --> 00:44:54.640 So here, here's what I want to know. 00:44:54.700 --> 00:44:56.420 Let's, let's, we'll, we'll land the plane. 00:44:56.480 --> 00:44:57.320 By the way, thank you. 00:44:57.400 --> 00:44:59.020 This has been phenomenal. 00:44:59.320 --> 00:44:59.720 Awesome. 00:45:00.020 --> 00:45:02.180 Um, couple, couple of questions to wrap up. 00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:04.260 Let's, let's just build a model here. 00:45:04.600 --> 00:45:06.240 1,000, 1,500 person church. 00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:08.260 Kind of, kind of similar in context to you. 00:45:08.900 --> 00:45:13.720 Um, they're, they're wanting to do this, uh, online to offline model. 00:45:13.720 --> 00:45:19.540 They want to start creating physical locations, um, house church, micro locations, what have 00:45:19.540 --> 00:45:19.720 you. 00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:22.560 What are their next steps? 00:45:22.740 --> 00:45:28.420 Give them some advice on how to move from, Hey, leadership might not understand. 00:45:28.720 --> 00:45:30.220 I've got this broadcast. 00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:31.260 I've got this service. 00:45:31.380 --> 00:45:32.740 How do I take that next step? 00:45:34.060 --> 00:45:34.500 Yeah. 00:45:35.500 --> 00:45:36.780 Loyal volunteers. 00:45:37.780 --> 00:45:42.580 You need members of your church that want to get out there and love on people. 00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:43.100 Yeah. 00:45:43.240 --> 00:45:48.080 That's, I mean, I think that's the fuel for church anywhere is the people in the church 00:45:48.080 --> 00:45:51.480 that cannot wait to do church Monday through Saturday. 00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:58.240 We don't show up Sunday morning and then go back to our lives where, uh, the great commission 00:45:58.240 --> 00:46:00.640 is every other day of the week. 00:46:00.640 --> 00:46:03.320 And you need people in your church that want to do that. 00:46:03.320 --> 00:46:08.640 So to expand on that, I think before the lead pastor conversation happens, I feel like there 00:46:08.640 --> 00:46:13.420 has to be some kind of DNA in your church already, where you have people who are ready to love 00:46:13.420 --> 00:46:14.800 on the community in a different way. 00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:19.680 Um, so before, before you ever start thinking about church anywhere, you have to have a culture 00:46:19.680 --> 00:46:24.860 of, of wanting to be able to go love on people that maybe you, uh, wouldn't normally 00:46:24.860 --> 00:46:25.380 love on. 00:46:25.740 --> 00:46:27.860 And then that would definitely make it a whole lot easier. 00:46:28.200 --> 00:46:29.500 So action. 00:46:29.680 --> 00:46:30.080 Yeah. 00:46:30.140 --> 00:46:34.940 But for someone who is maybe has that already, and they're talking to their lead pastor. 00:46:35.540 --> 00:46:39.840 Um, I mean, I think the first thing has to be, um, you have to have a quality product. 00:46:40.360 --> 00:46:45.960 Um, nothing that we put on the screens, if it's going to be based on technology, it can't 00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:46.380 suck. 00:46:46.380 --> 00:46:48.920 So, um, I don't know how else to say that. 00:46:49.020 --> 00:46:52.040 Like it just, it can't have like distortion all over the place. 00:46:52.040 --> 00:46:57.660 And, um, like 1993 cameras that you're shooting your, your stuff with, like it has to look 00:46:57.660 --> 00:46:58.060 good. 00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:01.700 And, and we've done that within a super reasonable budget. 00:47:01.700 --> 00:47:07.740 Um, and I, I don't think that we're like producing Steven Spielberg kind of product, but it's, 00:47:07.740 --> 00:47:11.500 it's not something that I would be ashamed to put on a large screen in front of 300 prisoners. 00:47:12.160 --> 00:47:15.900 Um, so start with the product, uh, and then cast the vision. 00:47:15.900 --> 00:47:20.200 You have to cast the vision before we started this, we did an entire sermon series called 00:47:20.200 --> 00:47:20.900 Church Anywhere. 00:47:21.500 --> 00:47:25.320 Um, and so you have to cast the vision to your, to your people. 00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:32.000 So lead pastor or teaching team, whatever, what have you taught a whole sermon series, basically 00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:35.840 saying church, get out of the building, go do church outside of the building. 00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:41.580 Oh, by the way, here's a vehicle church anywhere utilizing church online, which gives you the, 00:47:41.580 --> 00:47:45.140 the resources to go do church outside the building. 00:47:45.380 --> 00:47:45.740 Yeah. 00:47:46.080 --> 00:47:46.300 Yeah. 00:47:46.360 --> 00:47:47.140 And I mean, it helps. 00:47:47.340 --> 00:47:51.760 I'm on the teaching team that like, I have a bug in the ear of, of the guy who's making 00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:53.160 the stuff, which helps. 00:47:53.160 --> 00:47:56.480 Um, but I think that he, Randy, I think preached two of those. 00:47:56.600 --> 00:47:59.660 I preached one and then our other teaching guy preached one as well. 00:47:59.720 --> 00:48:05.220 So it was a four week series from different perspectives of how this can not only change 00:48:05.220 --> 00:48:08.760 people's lives, but change the lives of, of the people who are serving as well. 00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:10.920 Well, God bless you. 00:48:10.980 --> 00:48:14.460 I feel like we're, we're seeing it in, in, in, in hearing some of those stories, by the 00:48:14.460 --> 00:48:20.540 way, you know, just talking about seeing that culture kind of tied within, um, of, of 00:48:20.540 --> 00:48:24.060 the people, even before you get to the, to have that conversation with the lead pastor. 00:48:24.560 --> 00:48:29.820 Um, that actually echoes something that we have heard, uh, Eric Geiger, who's lead pastor 00:48:29.820 --> 00:48:31.400 over at Mariner's church out in California. 00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:33.220 It's like a 10,000 person mega church. 00:48:33.660 --> 00:48:40.160 Um, and, but we had a conversation with him talking about, um, like how to, how to talk 00:48:40.160 --> 00:48:41.800 to your leadership about church online. 00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:46.640 Uh, and, and honestly, he struggles with this and he's, you know, wrestling with some of 00:48:46.640 --> 00:48:47.080 the things too. 00:48:47.140 --> 00:48:48.300 So it was a really good conversation. 00:48:48.780 --> 00:48:56.400 But where he landed on some of his stuff was that if, if he saw that his volunteers in 00:48:56.400 --> 00:49:02.480 his church was passionate about it, I was passionate about serving in that area, he would give it 00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:04.940 more weight and more, more credibility towards it. 00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:10.640 And so you can listen to it on, um, episode 10, uh, but going, going back to, to y'all, just 00:49:10.640 --> 00:49:14.680 how you've been able to leverage that love within the community. 00:49:14.680 --> 00:49:20.640 And, and, and within, uh, what you're doing there in, in, in, in Cordon and, um, and being 00:49:20.640 --> 00:49:25.400 able to use it to create these, these, uh, micro locations is, is awesome. 00:49:25.560 --> 00:49:31.380 Like I have forwarded your podcast to, to more people as I just cast this vision of, hey, 00:49:31.420 --> 00:49:32.580 church online needs to grow up. 00:49:32.640 --> 00:49:36.120 Church online needs to start birthing physical, you know, locations. 00:49:36.300 --> 00:49:41.900 I, I, I truly believe that the model that you guys are doing for church is the model of where 00:49:41.900 --> 00:49:43.720 we're going to be in, in five to 10 years. 00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:48.460 I think broadcast campuses will get bigger, but I also think that they're going to get 00:49:48.460 --> 00:49:49.620 smaller in the process. 00:49:49.620 --> 00:49:54.960 And, and, and so, you know, I look at some of the mega churches, um, uh, saddleback out 00:49:54.960 --> 00:50:01.600 in California, elevation out in, uh, the Carolinas, you know, they're utilizing the same model where 00:50:01.600 --> 00:50:07.940 they're having hundreds of, of micro locations, watch parties, house churches, digital groups, 00:50:08.020 --> 00:50:14.520 you know, like of this, where they're utilizing church online to birth, um, physical locations 00:50:14.520 --> 00:50:14.960 around. 00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:17.220 And so, uh, well done. 00:50:17.520 --> 00:50:21.140 The thing that I love is that you're a small church and you figured out how to do it. 00:50:21.620 --> 00:50:26.940 Uh, and when everybody told, you know, you just kept doing it and got leadership to buy 00:50:26.940 --> 00:50:32.100 in and, uh, like just, um, I, I love, and it's the reason why I want to talk to you lead 00:50:32.100 --> 00:50:32.380 pastor. 00:50:32.500 --> 00:50:33.640 I love your church so much. 00:50:33.740 --> 00:50:34.700 I want to learn more. 00:50:34.780 --> 00:50:36.460 I want to learn everything I can about it. 00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:40.340 So that that's coming up soon, but I want to land the plane on this. 00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:42.380 I want, I want one more story. 00:50:42.380 --> 00:50:47.960 I want one story that's like, this is the greatest thing that's ever happened at your 00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:50.920 specific camp, uh, specific campus load location. 00:50:51.340 --> 00:50:55.860 Uh, no pressure though, but I'm sure you got something that's like awesome. 00:50:56.480 --> 00:50:58.220 So awesome. 00:50:58.340 --> 00:50:59.640 Way to jump up, Brad. 00:50:59.720 --> 00:51:01.200 Give him a chance first. 00:51:01.940 --> 00:51:07.220 Well, the first thing comes to mind and it's probably, yeah, for both of us, there was a 00:51:07.220 --> 00:51:12.680 guy that, uh, just a face in the crowd came up to me after the service and said, uh, I really 00:51:12.680 --> 00:51:14.060 need your church's address. 00:51:14.660 --> 00:51:16.360 And I'm thinking, what? 00:51:16.780 --> 00:51:19.780 Why would you, he's like, I need to start tithing. 00:51:20.460 --> 00:51:24.100 And to me that immediately said, he's a member of our church. 00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:29.500 He's taken it so seriously that he, he needs to, and he still does that. 00:51:29.500 --> 00:51:35.000 Dude, 10 bucks a month and he makes like 10 cents an hour and he, wait, so there's a 00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:35.500 prisoner. 00:51:36.080 --> 00:51:40.740 Just to put this in contact, there's literally a convict right now who tithes 10 bucks a month 00:51:40.740 --> 00:51:41.800 to first capital Christian. 00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:42.500 That's right. 00:51:42.620 --> 00:51:46.880 And he, he was super excited, super enthusiastic about doing it. 00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:49.300 We didn't, we did not pitch that idea. 00:51:49.300 --> 00:51:50.900 We've never talked about tithing. 00:51:51.060 --> 00:51:54.240 We do not go there and ask them for money whatsoever. 00:51:54.680 --> 00:51:58.720 This guy approached me at the end of the service and wanted to know how he could do that. 00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:01.040 And I was blown back by it. 00:52:01.080 --> 00:52:06.060 I thought that's the, that's the craziest thing from, you know, in the location we're in to 00:52:06.060 --> 00:52:08.460 hear that was completely unexpected. 00:52:08.920 --> 00:52:10.220 It was, it was amazing. 00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:11.060 It was amazing. 00:52:11.060 --> 00:52:21.760 I think the biggest thing for me was, um, we've had some residents that were transferred 00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:28.120 to other facilities and those residents have reached out to us to come to the facilities 00:52:28.120 --> 00:52:30.620 where they are moved to. 00:52:31.120 --> 00:52:37.160 And even the director over at the nursing home where I am talked to us yesterday about writing 00:52:37.160 --> 00:52:42.780 us a letter of recommendation to send to some other homes that she knows would need us in 00:52:42.780 --> 00:52:43.480 their facilities. 00:52:43.660 --> 00:52:46.620 And it's going to put something together and help us with outreach. 00:52:46.740 --> 00:52:47.240 That's awesome. 00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:48.180 What does that say? 00:52:48.600 --> 00:52:49.220 We're touching. 00:52:49.700 --> 00:52:50.680 That's all you can do. 00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:53.620 And the best part about that, Jeff, is that I had no idea that happened. 00:52:53.980 --> 00:52:58.320 So like that's Cindy creating more reach for church anywhere. 00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:01.520 And she's a volunteer and it has nothing at all to do with the staff member. 00:53:03.020 --> 00:53:03.420 Wow. 00:53:03.680 --> 00:53:04.400 That's what I was going to say. 00:53:04.500 --> 00:53:05.100 You're going to tell that story? 00:53:05.100 --> 00:53:09.040 Yeah, so this is, this is the best, the best story out of church anywhere that I'm aware 00:53:09.040 --> 00:53:16.400 of, but I had, there is a, a, uh, a guy who was in prison that, um, first of all, every 00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:18.040 time I see him, it's like a family reunion. 00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:21.700 Like I, I truly, like he was my friend. 00:53:21.700 --> 00:53:27.280 Like I, I, I found myself praying for people by name that I met in prison the other day and 00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:27.960 he was one of them. 00:53:28.600 --> 00:53:35.580 Um, and he came up to us probably like a month ago, maybe a little longer and said, Hey, 00:53:35.620 --> 00:53:39.460 I've noticed that a lot of the gang members don't come to the church anywhere service. 00:53:39.460 --> 00:53:42.360 And here's why I think that they don't like that type of music. 00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:45.500 And I don't think that they think that they should be in church. 00:53:46.020 --> 00:53:49.300 And so what if we did like a hardcore version of church anywhere? 00:53:49.620 --> 00:53:51.620 And I was like, okay, what do you have in mind? 00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:54.460 And he's like, all right, well, I already got it approved from the chaplain. 00:53:54.580 --> 00:53:55.500 Like we're going to make it happen. 00:53:55.580 --> 00:53:57.020 I've already got people who are going to volunteer. 00:53:57.580 --> 00:54:00.660 Um, and, uh, I've already, I'm just, I just need you to help me with the video. 00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:07.020 So all he found, um, former gang members, testimonies on YouTube and through the chaplain, 00:54:07.140 --> 00:54:08.020 those were sent to me. 00:54:08.300 --> 00:54:12.420 And then, uh, he found specific songs that he wants to, uh, to use. 00:54:12.500 --> 00:54:13.480 And those were sent to me. 00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:18.580 In the meantime, a guy that watches us online named Mark is in a hardcore Christian rock band. 00:54:19.140 --> 00:54:24.240 So August 3rd, he is driving all the way from Missouri with his band for free to record 00:54:24.240 --> 00:54:28.260 songs for hardcore Christian church anywhere, um, at first capital. 00:54:28.260 --> 00:54:32.680 We're going to produce this, put it all together, and we're going to have a gang specific church 00:54:32.680 --> 00:54:35.580 anywhere led by inmates at this prison. 00:54:36.420 --> 00:54:37.280 Praise God. 00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:37.680 Yeah. 00:54:37.680 --> 00:54:38.000 Awesome. 00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:39.400 Yeah. 00:54:39.460 --> 00:54:44.000 So it's that idea of empowering volunteers who then empower the people at the locations 00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:46.960 to become leaders and then creating leaders and leaders and leaders. 00:54:47.300 --> 00:54:48.480 Well, that's what happens. 00:54:48.480 --> 00:54:53.700 Like when it is funny, like there, there are, there are churches that I've talked with that 00:54:53.700 --> 00:54:55.840 and they'll be like, whoa, like, can you do that? 00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:59.460 Like we should, we know we need to worry about quality control. 00:54:59.560 --> 00:55:04.540 You need to like, maybe we don't want the hardcore, but instead, you know, what, what 00:55:04.540 --> 00:55:06.160 you've done is get out of the way. 00:55:06.240 --> 00:55:11.340 Hey, you know, let, let the people own this, let the people own the ministry of this and 00:55:11.340 --> 00:55:12.560 see what happens. 00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:16.440 And all of a sudden you're starting to get these, these pieces together. 00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:20.980 Like, and, and the, we didn't really touch on this in the broadcast, but to do church 00:55:20.980 --> 00:55:24.720 anywhere well, like it's a collaboration, right? 00:55:25.080 --> 00:55:30.220 You can't be at the broadcast, you Tyler, you can't be at the broadcast campus as well 00:55:30.220 --> 00:55:32.020 as 16 other micro locations. 00:55:32.020 --> 00:55:37.940 You've got to trust and empower the, the Brad's and the Cindy's to, to get out there and to 00:55:37.940 --> 00:55:38.540 do this. 00:55:38.540 --> 00:55:43.760 And, and, and Brad and Cindy, you know, you've got to, to, to empower your other volunteers 00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:47.260 and, and listen to the, to the people that are there. 00:55:47.380 --> 00:55:51.660 And all of a sudden you run into a great story like that, where some guy's taken upon him 00:55:51.660 --> 00:55:57.440 heart, his own heart for, Hey, like the gang, the people that need Jesus aren't here. 00:55:57.840 --> 00:56:01.860 And the thing that's holding them back is the music that's coming out of the broadcast 00:56:01.860 --> 00:56:02.420 campus. 00:56:02.500 --> 00:56:03.840 No offense, but it just isn't working. 00:56:04.420 --> 00:56:05.800 And okay, no offense. 00:56:06.200 --> 00:56:08.600 Cause at the end, it's not brand it's gospel. 00:56:08.780 --> 00:56:10.300 It's what do we need to do to get them the gospel? 00:56:10.840 --> 00:56:14.740 Anything short of sin, you know, quote, um, uh, life church. 00:56:15.200 --> 00:56:17.500 Uh, why am I blanking on life church's lead pastor's name? 00:56:17.520 --> 00:56:18.020 That's embarrassing. 00:56:19.020 --> 00:56:19.540 Thank you. 00:56:19.640 --> 00:56:20.300 Quote and crow shell. 00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:21.280 Anything short of sin. 00:56:21.520 --> 00:56:22.920 Like let's, let's do it. 00:56:23.620 --> 00:56:24.480 That's awesome. 00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:28.780 What are the chances that a guy that watches us each week online though, is, is a part of 00:56:28.780 --> 00:56:34.200 the like good Christian hard rock band that he's like, man, I'll, I would love to help 00:56:34.200 --> 00:56:34.540 with that. 00:56:34.620 --> 00:56:35.800 So like we've already set a date. 00:56:35.880 --> 00:56:38.420 They're going to come in and record 10 songs that we're going to be able to use throughout 00:56:38.420 --> 00:56:40.500 all of the next year for hardcore church. 00:56:42.240 --> 00:56:44.380 That that's, that's just so awesome. 00:56:44.940 --> 00:56:48.500 And then, well, you know, who knows what God's going to do with that? 00:56:48.520 --> 00:56:53.180 Because it's amazing when you get to get the one resource and you allow, when you step 00:56:53.180 --> 00:56:58.940 back and allow God to move instead of you moving God, um, all of a sudden you see things 00:56:58.940 --> 00:57:03.880 moving, uh, a lot quicker and in a lot of ways that you never anticipated. 00:57:04.360 --> 00:57:05.580 Tyler, last question. 00:57:05.740 --> 00:57:07.660 How long have you been doing church anywhere? 00:57:07.980 --> 00:57:09.380 Uh, like physical locations. 00:57:09.760 --> 00:57:10.940 When did the first one get promoted? 00:57:11.340 --> 00:57:11.840 Two years? 00:57:11.980 --> 00:57:12.660 March last year. 00:57:12.680 --> 00:57:13.220 Oh yeah. 00:57:13.220 --> 00:57:14.220 Just a little over a year. 00:57:15.180 --> 00:57:15.580 15. 00:57:15.740 --> 00:57:15.940 Okay. 00:57:15.940 --> 00:57:19.180 So in 15 months, 16 months from recording, this is, this is June. 00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:22.100 So 16, 17 months, you've got 16 locations. 00:57:22.100 --> 00:57:24.820 You've literally launched one location per month. 00:57:25.060 --> 00:57:25.740 Uh, yeah. 00:57:25.780 --> 00:57:31.380 I mean, a lot of them happen quicker on average, on average, it'd be one a month. 00:57:31.520 --> 00:57:33.100 And our goal is 20 by 20. 00:57:33.240 --> 00:57:35.000 So 20 by the end of 2020. 00:57:37.720 --> 00:57:38.340 Well done. 00:57:39.020 --> 00:57:39.380 Awesome. 00:57:39.840 --> 00:57:40.780 I love this. 00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:43.160 I, I just, man, I don't even, I didn't even know what to say. 00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:45.060 This has been a great interview. 00:57:45.060 --> 00:57:51.280 By the way, seriously, if you have questions on, um, First Capital and like their model and 00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:56.380 how it works, just knowing Tyler, I'm sure he'd be more than happy to have some of those 00:57:56.380 --> 00:57:58.900 conversations online so you can hit him up. 00:57:59.120 --> 00:58:01.560 Uh, Tyler, what's your, what's your Facebook right now? 00:58:01.680 --> 00:58:05.820 Just, I think it's just Tyler saying some, I think. 00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:07.900 Tyler saying he doesn't even know. 00:58:07.980 --> 00:58:08.960 We'll include it in the show notes. 00:58:09.060 --> 00:58:09.520 Just click there. 00:58:09.560 --> 00:58:10.020 It'll be great. 00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:12.640 You can, you can hit me up online as well. 00:58:12.640 --> 00:58:15.820 And, and I'll, uh, I'll point you his way, but this has been great. 00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:18.620 Uh, Cindy, Brad, Tyler, man, thanks for joining us. 00:58:18.620 --> 00:58:24.140 And next episode, uh, we're going to have Tyler back and talking with Randy Kirk, lead pastor 00:58:24.140 --> 00:58:25.440 there at First Capital. 00:58:25.720 --> 00:58:26.760 It's going to be awesome. 00:58:27.240 --> 00:58:30.280 Uh, from, from, uh, Tyler and the crowd. 00:58:30.380 --> 00:58:31.320 Uh, my name is Jeff. 00:58:31.380 --> 00:58:33.980 Thank you very much for joining us today. 00:58:34.160 --> 00:58:36.900 And we'll see you next time here at the Church Digital Podcast. 00:58:37.300 --> 00:58:37.860 Y'all have a good day.