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 Welcome to the Church Digital Podcast, powered by Stadia Church Planting.

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 Through this podcast, learn about how God is using technology and innovation

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 in digital and digital environments around the world.

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 Our goal? To help churches like yours learn to be the church digitally.

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 Our heart? That churches like yours will discover a newfound focus on disciple-making

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 that will revolutionize your church.

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 And now, your host, here's Jeff Reed.

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 All right, so for this conversation, audience, I need us to take the digital hat off.

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 We are not getting technological in this conversation much at all.

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 Instead, we're really dealing more into this idea of relationships.

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 We're dealing more with this idea of networks.

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 Hey, it's Jeff here with the Church Digital, and also, coming soon, the Digital Church Network.

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 Now, you've heard me talk a little bit about this in many ways.

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 I resigned from Stadia to go towards creating.

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 God opened some incredible opportunities to open a digital church network,

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 a network of digital churches globally,

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 really championing almost this idea of doing, like, microchurch in digital space,

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 microchurch in the metaverse.

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 And so what would that even look like?

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 God opened this opportunity, gave me ways to connect with people,

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 and just literally had this sense upon me,

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 hey, Jeff, I need to create a network of digital churches.

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 The funny thing was, and I've said this publicly,

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 I have no idea what church networks do.

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 And so for this conversation, I actually sought out a guy that ran a microchurch network

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 that has been active in network ministry,

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 and asked the basic question,

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 what is it that you actually do?

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 Because, ironically, I feel like God's leading me to do that,

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 and I just have no clue what I'm actually supposed to do.

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 And so for the conversation, I'm bringing in Jason Shepard.

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 Now, Jason runs Church Project, among other things.

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 Church Project is a network of microchurches that are in the Texas area,

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 and he's been doing this for a while.

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 He's been having a lot of success with it.

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 And honestly, I sat down with him.

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 I was like, hey, I don't need you to explain digital.

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 I really don't want to know your take on digital.

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 It's okay.

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 I just want to know.

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 I want to learn.

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 I want to gain insight on how to be a network,

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 how to empower people to do ministry,

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 how to empower lay people,

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 bivocational, co-vocational,

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 how to empower the average person to pick up the mantle of Christ

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 and be that missionary in their neighborhoods,

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 in physical space.

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 And that's the heart of this conversation.

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 What does a microchurch network do?

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 So for this conversation, once again,

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 we're bringing in Jason Shepard from Church Project

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 and myself, Jeff, with the Church Digital

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 and coming soon, the Digital Church Network

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 in a conversation that I'm so eloquently entitling.

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 So what exactly does a microchurch network do?

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 Okay, everybody, here you go.

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 Hey, so Jason, man, thanks for jumping on the show here.

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 Maybe just even to kick us off,

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 tell us a little bit about yourself.

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 Tell us about Church Project, what all this is about.

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 Yeah, Jeff, thanks for the invitation.

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 I love what you're doing

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 and excited to learn more from you

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 and love to be a part of this today.

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 Yeah, my name's Jason Shepard.

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 I planted a thing called Church Project in 2010

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 on the north side of Houston.

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 And then we started planting other church projects

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 and we called that Church Project Network.

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 And then we started planting churches outside of ourselves

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 and we called that House Church Network.

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 I grew up in Tyler, Texas, east of Dallas,

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 sort of medium-sized East Texas town,

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 pretty isolated in my view of the church.

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 And then God started expanding my view

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 through just studying scripture in college

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 and traveling the world and working in churches

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 and just a deeper dive into the study of ecclesiology.

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 And so out of all of that,

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 combined with the frustration

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 of everything I had been perpetuating

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 for 15 or 20 years,

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 I started Church Project.

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 And we had no place, no people,

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 no funding, no name, no nothing.

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 In fact, Church Project isn't the name of a church,

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 which we say is sort of an idea.

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 And now we have a church of thousands of people

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 with no name.

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 But we are what we would call a church of house churches.

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 So we're one church made up of many house churches.

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 And that's what we help plant,

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 churches that are made up of house churches.

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 That's incredible.

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 There is so much in that opening conversation

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 that just right there, that one paragraph.

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 I'm just, I'm typing questions over here,

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 crazy, trying to remember everything.

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 Okay.

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 So like you opened up,

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 you spent time trying to figure out what is church.

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 And so you're a network of house churches,

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 which means that your view of church

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 may be a little different than the,

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 you know, the big building on the corner

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 of every street in Houston, Texas.

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 So tell me, like, what do you define as church?

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 Well, you know, that's a loaded question.

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 And actually, I would say

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 that's one of my biggest concerns

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 or maybe senses of calling in my life

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 is what is the church?

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 I mean, when we say church,

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 what does that mean?

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 You know, a guy, a PhD,

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 brilliant seminary leader at Baylor University

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 from Europe,

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 he wrote a paper one time

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 and he posited this idea.

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 And he said, you know,

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 most pastors would not be able to explain

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 what the church is in a theological way.

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 And I would say this too, Jeff,

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 I think that the church is the carrier

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 of doctrine to people, right?

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 I mean, we're carrying all this theology to people,

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 but the vessel in which we're carrying it,

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 the church,

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 I would say that doctrine of theology

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 or ecclesiology,

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 the theology by which we're carrying all theology,

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 the ecclesiology is not defined or expressed.

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 And I will say I grew up in a place

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 where I didn't even think about

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 what the church was supposed to be.

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 I mean, I thought about

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 what do I believe about Jesus

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 and sin and heaven and salvation

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 and the coming of Christ

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 and mission and all that.

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 But I really never thought about

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 what is the church.

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 And so when I started wrestling with this,

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 of course, I mean,

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 we started in Acts

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 and we see things in other places,

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 but I will tell you,

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 Titus, for me,

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 when Paul told Titus,

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 the reason I left you in Crete,

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 I'm like, okay,

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 now here we're getting down

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 to some empirical information, right?

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 Paul plants a church

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 on an island in Crete,

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 a large island,

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 and then he's leaving

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 to go do what he does best,

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 which is evangelize

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 and start churches as an apostle.

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 And then he says,

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 I'm going to put somebody else here.

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 So Paul appoints Titus

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 and he tells Titus three things.

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 These are the three things

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 you're supposed to do.

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 The reason I left you in Crete

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 was to straighten out

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 what's unfinished,

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 appoint elders in every town

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 as I directed you

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 and teach what's in accord

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 with sound doctrine.

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 And so I see this light centrality

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 of Titus,

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 but distributed leadership

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 in every town

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 because Paul wanted to make sure

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 that people in every town

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 had a pastor, elder available to them,

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 an overseer for them.

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 He didn't want Titus

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 being the guy to go to them

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 because that would limit

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 their access to Titus

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 and he didn't want them

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 coming to Titus.

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 That would access

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 their limit to Titus.

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 And so that would limit

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 their access to Titus.

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 And so he said,

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 look, you appoint leaders,

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 distribute leadership to people.

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 So he wanted to make sure

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 these leaders had sound doctrine.

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 He wanted to make sure

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 that they were living

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 a proper life,

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 all of these things.

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 So there is centrality

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 of oversight,

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 but there is distributed leadership.

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 So that's what Church Project is.

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 There is centrality of oversight,

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 but it's light.

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 As Alan Hirsch talks about,

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 a missional DNA,

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 there has to be some centrality

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 for a movement to happen,

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 but it's got to be

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 almost invisible.

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 And so we have centrality,

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 but it's very,

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 it's behind the scenes.

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 It's almost hard to see.

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 And we have distributed leadership.

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 I would say this,

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 we're a church

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 of thousands of people.

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 We don't really know how many.

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 I mean, you know,

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 on a weekend,

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 four or 5,000 people,

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 15 or 20,000 people

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 call this their church

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 on a regular basis.

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 We have no phone number,

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 no foyer.

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 We do own a building,

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 but we inhabit

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 a very small part of that,

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 our team that is central for this.

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 And the building is used

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 by ministries in our city

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 all the time.

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 We can talk about space.

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 I mean,

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 I have a real passion

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 and conviction

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 and calling for,

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 actually,

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 what I would say

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 is a theology of space.

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 I think churches

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 are projecting

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 a theology of space

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 all the time.

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 Whether they don't have it

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 or they have

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 incredible edifices,

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 we're projecting

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 a theology of space.

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 So the theology of space,

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 you know,

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 even the ecclesiology.

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 So,

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 I mean,

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 you listed out

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 a very minimalistic,

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 a basic,

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 maybe more of an essential approach.

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 Straighten out what's finished,

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 appoint elders,

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 you know,

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 teach the word.

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 That's the view of the church.

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 Does that,

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 so an established church

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 has a much more richer ecclesiology

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 that they're used to.

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 You're adapting

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 and maybe a more simpler

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 approach.

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 Is that the ecclesiology

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 of the house church network?

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 Like,

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 when you look at,

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 those are the three functions

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 of that.

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 Is there more

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 that you're adding

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 to that ecclesiology

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 of that house church?

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 More expectations?

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 No.

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 A house church here,

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 they have,

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 house churches have

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 a lot of expectations

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 and clarifications

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 of function,

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 but essentially,

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 they function as

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 a little church.

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 They have an overseeing elders.

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 So we have

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 a group of elders

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 who oversee

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 all of our house churches.

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 But our house church pastors

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 are empowered,

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 expected,

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 identified

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 to pastor

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 this congregation

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 of people.

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 And so we may have

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 70 house churches here,

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 let's say.

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 It's Church Product,

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 the Woodlands.

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 Up the road,

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 we have Church Product,

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 North County,

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 and they have

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 however many house churches

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 they have.

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 We're starting one

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 15 minutes west of us

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 and another one

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 northwest of us.

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 And so we have house churches

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 all over here,

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 but every centrality

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 has every location,

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 if you will,

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 every central hub.

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 We don't use the word hub

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 much,

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 but has its own elders

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 that oversee it.

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 But the function

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 of the house church pastors

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 is different

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 than the function

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 of the elders

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 or the overseers.

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 And the house church pastors

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 are pastoring that.

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 They're responsible

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 for cultivating

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 the culture

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 and the community

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 of discipleship

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 and relationship.

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 And so we say

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 house church

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 is the primary

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 source of community

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 and discipleship.

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 So all benevolence

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 happens in a house church.

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 And so in a typical

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 centrally located church,

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 what we read about

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 in Acts can't happen.

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 When we say,

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 hey,

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 they were selling their goods

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 and meeting each other's needs,

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 that doesn't happen

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 in a church.

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 Most churches I worked at

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 from mega

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 to medium-sized churches

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 was where I worked

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 in traditional model churches

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 before.

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 Let's just put

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 a real scenario

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 together here.

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 A mom with three kids,

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 her husband left her.

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 He's not paying the bills.

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 She needs some help.

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 How does she get help

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 from her church?

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 She calls the office.

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 The receptionist

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 sets up an appointment

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 for her

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 with the executive pastor

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 who she doesn't know.

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 She walks into the office.

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 She fills out a form.

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 She waits for the guy

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 to come down the hall

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 and get her.

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 He's nice.

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 Everybody's nice.

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 It's a nice experience.

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 Hi,

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 my name is so-and-so.

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 Please come in.

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 She's had to fill out information,

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 how much money she makes,

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 what her bills are,

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 all that.

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 The executive pastor says,

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 well,

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 our benevolence budget

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 right now is this

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 and we can help you

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 for a couple months

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 with your mortgage,

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 but we probably won't

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 be able to do it

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 after that.

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 She's grateful,

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 but eight weeks from now,

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 she's hopeless again.

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 I hate that.

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 I can't read about that

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 in the Bible.

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 I don't see it

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 and I built that

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 for many years.

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 What I love now

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 is this.

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 Somebody's in a house church.

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 Real scenario,

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 a man and a woman

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 going to house church.

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 Dude loses his job.

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 They're very blue-collar people.

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 They live sort of

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 paycheck to paycheck.

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 He loses his job.

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 They go to house church

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 that week

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 and because they're

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 in a great community,

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 at the end of the gathering,

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 we're praying for each other

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 and they share,

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 hey, we've lost our job.

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 People pray for them

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 and this guy says,

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 hey, why don't you get

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 with this person?

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 They're going to help you

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 on a job search.

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 They're good at that.

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 This person's going to help you

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 with a budget

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 and the next week,

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 this family shows up.

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 Real thing happened.

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 I heard about it last week

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 happening again.

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 This happens all the time.

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 Bag of money on the table.

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 Hey, will y'all

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 please open the bag.

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 Boom.

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 Hey, we're taking care

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 of your mortgage

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 for a few months

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 and we're going to help you out.

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 I mean, people buy

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 people's cars,

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 pay their hospital bills,

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 watch their kids for them.

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 I mean, it's just,

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 this is happening

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 in every house.

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 There's things

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 that we don't know about.

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 We just,

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 we work to hear stories, right?

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 We just want to hear the stories.

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 It's just happening automatically

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 and I think all of this

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 is completely contingent

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 upon the way

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 the church is structured

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 and so I think

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 much of ecclesiology

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 is structured

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 and I think churches

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 of different,

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 you know,

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 you can be complementarian

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 or egalitarian

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 or you can be

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 whatever preacher,

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 preacher,

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 that's great.

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 Now, I'm not saying

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 those things don't matter

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 but that doesn't affect

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 how your church functions.

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 I think the structure

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 of the church

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 is going to determine

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 how your church

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 is going to handle

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 all these things.

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 Benevolence,

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 pastoring,

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 frontline of counseling,

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 accountability,

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 church discipline,

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 community,

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 all of that for us

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 is happening in house church

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 whereas at other places,

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 central was trying

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 to make it all happen.

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 Is there any level

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 of centralization?

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 I mean,

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 you were talking

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 about centrality

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 at some level

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 but then you really

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 started talking more

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 about the regional aspects

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 and the elders

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 that are leading

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 some of these levels.

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 Is there any overarching

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 central umbrella?

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 What does that look like?

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 Sure.

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 Yeah, there is.

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 And in fact,

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 I think if there's not,

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 that's why we've

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 limited movements.

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 I mean,

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 people have retaliated

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 rightly so,

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 I think,

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 against this

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 mega central

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 kind of church

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 and so they've

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 started gathering

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 in isolated,

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 individualistic environments.

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 So I'll give you an example.

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 A guy comes to our church

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 gathering on a Sunday morning.

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 I meet him.

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 There's hundreds

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 or thousands of people

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 walking around.

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 I just happened

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 to meet this guy.

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 Hey,

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 what's your name?

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 What brought you here?

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 Have you been connected

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 to a church?

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 What's your story

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 with God?

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 And so he's like,

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 well,

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 I've been a part

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 of a house church

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 for the last five years.

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 And I'm like,

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 great.

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 Let's talk about that.

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 And I said,

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 well,

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 why are you here today?

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 And he said,

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 well,

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 the pastor of my house

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 church got cancer.

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 They had to quit.

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 We were meeting

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 in their restaurant.

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 They had to sell

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 their restaurant

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 and move somewhere.

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 And I'm like,

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 well,

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 where's your house church?

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 He's like,

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 well,

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 it's gone.

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 It ended.

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 And I said,

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 I love that you're

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 in a house church.

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 I'm sorry that it ended.

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 I'm sorry your house

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 church pastor got cancer.

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 I said,

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 if that would have

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 happened here,

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 let me let you know.

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 We have overseers

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 who would have cared

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 for you.

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 We would have cared

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 for the house church pastor

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 and we would have

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 raised up another

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 house church pastor

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 or this house church

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 would have been

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 integrated into another

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 the one closest to them.

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 And so,

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 yeah,

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 we have centrality

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 because it keeps it going.

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 And when you have

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 a bunch of individual

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 disconnected house churches

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 or micro churches

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 in a city,

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 it's really hard

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 to get together

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 to work toward

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 the,

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 you know,

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 the gospel spreading,

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 saturating a city.

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 And so,

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 we believe that

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 a centrality

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 is important

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 for endurance

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 and impact

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 and encouragement

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 and accountability.

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 So,

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 yeah,

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 we have,

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 so let's say

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 I have kids.

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 I want my kids.

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 I have an elementary school kid

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 and a high school kid.

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 We have kids in college.

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 So,

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 I want my elementary school kid

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 to have friends

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 in elementary school

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 and do things

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 that elementary school kids do.

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 So,

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 I want my high school daughter,

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 she has,

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 her best friends

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 are from her small group

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 in church

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 that she's been with

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 for years.

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 And I want her to go

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 on a mission trip

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 and go to camp.

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 But my daughter also works at,

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 she goes to two different

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 house churches

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 and she's like the little

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 kids pastor

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 at these two house churches.

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 She cares for these kids.

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 So,

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 but I do want her

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 to have friends her age.

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 And so,

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 we have,

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 you know,

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 a semi-traditional,

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 if you will,

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 student ministry

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 so that junior hires

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 and high schoolers

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 can connect.

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 We do believe

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 in the Sunday gathering.

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 And I think

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 that is a point

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 to press into here as well.

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 And so,

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 some of our centrality

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 helps make sure

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 that these things

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 occur,

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 whether it be

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 student small groups

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 or,

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 you know,

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 together,

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 all 70 or 80

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 or 90 house churches,

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 wherever they are,

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 we're all focusing in

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 on Malawi

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 or Haiti,

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 you know,

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 and so together

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 we have these things

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 that we're doing missionally

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 and that also

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 requires some centralization.

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 That's really interesting.

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 It's the centralization

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 allows the critical mass

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 for the areas

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 that a house church

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 may not have.

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 You know,

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 I know like,

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 you know,

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 one of the things,

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 one of the challenges

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 we talk about

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 like with house church

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 or microlocations

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 through digital

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 is like,

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 what do you do

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 with the kids

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 and what do you do

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 with the students?

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 And to be honest,

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 it didn't even occur to me,

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 hey,

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 like creating a network

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 like that

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 and maybe putting

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 the ones

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 and the twos together

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 to create that critical mass

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 to create something.

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 that's really interesting.

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 so talk to me

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 about how this started.

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 Like,

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 were there

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 20 house churches

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 around people

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 that were doing this?

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 Was it casting vision

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 and starting from scratch?

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 Was there gathering

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 of established people

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 and rallying around?

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 Like,

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 what was day one

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 as you were growing

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 this thing out?

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 Day one was scary

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 and lonely.

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 you know,

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 so I worked

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 at a great church

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 by all standards

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 and

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 I just couldn't,

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 I couldn't stay there anymore.

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 I mean,

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 I was in succession plan

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 to take over

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 when the 20 year older

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 pastor than me left

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 and,

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 you know,

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 we had just built

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 $27 million new facilities

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 and so,

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 but I just couldn't,

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 I just knew I couldn't,

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 this wasn't what

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 I was going to spend

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 my life doing

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 and so,

00:18:27.420 --> 00:18:27.940
 anymore,

00:18:28.180 --> 00:18:29.180
 although I loved the place

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 and I still do.

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 So,

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 I just designed a plan

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 with the leadership

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 there to lead.

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 I didn't want to take

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 anybody from that place.

00:18:39.120 --> 00:18:39.700
 I didn't want to

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 transfer culture.

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 I didn't want to be divisive

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 and so,

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 I went underground.

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 There was no way

00:18:45.620 --> 00:18:46.680
 to contact me

00:18:46.680 --> 00:18:47.420
 or find me.

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 So,

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 for many months

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 I was just invisible.

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 I disappeared

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 and I didn't know

00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:54.140
 what to do actually

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 at the end of 2009.

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 I mean,

00:18:56.740 --> 00:18:57.320
 I went away

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 my last day

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 at this place,

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 August 31st,

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 I went away

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 and just to the mountains

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 and I just prayed.

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 I'm like,

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 God,

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 I don't know what to do.

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 You put some things

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 in my heart,

00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:07.060
 been cultivating things

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 for years,

00:19:07.600 --> 00:19:08.160
 but it surely

00:19:08.160 --> 00:19:08.900
 wasn't formed

00:19:08.900 --> 00:19:09.540
 as clearly

00:19:09.540 --> 00:19:10.400
 as it is now.

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 And so,

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 I came back

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 and I found

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 a few people

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 to help me

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 that I did not

00:19:19.160 --> 00:19:19.740
 know before.

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 A couple of them

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 maybe I'd met

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 once somewhere,

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 but I found

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 some guys

00:19:23.900 --> 00:19:24.860
 who were also

00:19:24.860 --> 00:19:26.340
 sort of discontent

00:19:26.340 --> 00:19:26.860
 with church.

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 They didn't have

00:19:27.660 --> 00:19:28.240
 this calling,

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 but they were

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 willing to follow

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 and support it

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 and try something.

00:19:31.960 --> 00:19:33.000
 We had no money,

00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:34.660
 but we had no people.

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 I said,

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 look,

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 I'm going to pursue

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 this idea with my life

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 and keep doing

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 whatever job you're doing.

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 Some of them

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 were working at Apple

00:19:42.480 --> 00:19:43.140
 or Starbucks

00:19:43.140 --> 00:19:43.800
 or whatever,

00:19:43.800 --> 00:19:44.340
 and I said,

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 look,

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 I'm going to hope

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 that this will

00:19:46.400 --> 00:19:47.440
 support me financially

00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:48.160
 so I can devote

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 all my time to it,

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 but if it doesn't

00:19:50.040 --> 00:19:50.620
 or can't,

00:19:50.900 --> 00:19:51.900
 I'll do something else

00:19:51.900 --> 00:19:52.620
 and actually,

00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:54.800
 I think people need

00:19:54.800 --> 00:19:55.580
 support at the beginning

00:19:55.580 --> 00:19:56.320
 more than they need

00:19:56.320 --> 00:19:57.080
 it at the end.

00:19:57.180 --> 00:19:57.300
 I mean,

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 I'm working to

00:19:58.240 --> 00:19:59.540
 let the church

00:19:59.540 --> 00:20:00.440
 support me less

00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:01.320
 and do more things

00:20:01.320 --> 00:20:02.060
 on the side now

00:20:02.060 --> 00:20:03.180
 because I needed

00:20:03.180 --> 00:20:03.800
 more time

00:20:03.800 --> 00:20:04.340
 at the beginning.

00:20:05.300 --> 00:20:06.500
 But we just started

00:20:06.500 --> 00:20:06.780
 with,

00:20:07.100 --> 00:20:07.240
 I mean,

00:20:07.260 --> 00:20:08.060
 I had three guys

00:20:08.060 --> 00:20:08.520
 help me.

00:20:09.620 --> 00:20:10.500
 Nobody was being

00:20:10.500 --> 00:20:11.720
 paid by the church.

00:20:11.860 --> 00:20:12.500
 There was nothing

00:20:12.500 --> 00:20:13.880
 and I said,

00:20:13.940 --> 00:20:14.100
 look,

00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:14.760
 we can start

00:20:14.760 --> 00:20:15.680
 having these conversations

00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:16.360
 about this

00:20:16.360 --> 00:20:17.100
 with people that

00:20:17.100 --> 00:20:18.220
 we meet,

00:20:18.320 --> 00:20:19.300
 but we can't invite

00:20:19.300 --> 00:20:20.480
 anybody from any church

00:20:20.480 --> 00:20:21.340
 we've been a part of.

00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:22.300
 And so,

00:20:22.780 --> 00:20:24.320
 we had four little

00:20:24.320 --> 00:20:25.580
 information gatherings

00:20:25.580 --> 00:20:27.260
 and so like 40

00:20:27.260 --> 00:20:28.100
 or 50 people

00:20:28.100 --> 00:20:29.340
 somehow came to those.

00:20:29.640 --> 00:20:30.660
 There was no marketing.

00:20:30.820 --> 00:20:31.400
 We've never done

00:20:31.400 --> 00:20:32.420
 a marketing thing,

00:20:32.500 --> 00:20:32.880
 a mailer.

00:20:33.140 --> 00:20:33.780
 We've never done

00:20:33.780 --> 00:20:34.780
 any advertising

00:20:34.780 --> 00:20:36.200
 at all,

00:20:36.380 --> 00:20:36.640
 ever.

00:20:36.780 --> 00:20:37.320
 I hate it.

00:20:37.540 --> 00:20:38.680
 It makes me look

00:20:38.680 --> 00:20:39.760
 like everybody else.

00:20:40.120 --> 00:20:40.720
 And so I'm like,

00:20:40.760 --> 00:20:41.900
 I'm not like everybody else,

00:20:42.200 --> 00:20:43.060
 but marketing is going

00:20:43.060 --> 00:20:43.600
 to make me look

00:20:43.600 --> 00:20:44.480
 like everybody else

00:20:44.480 --> 00:20:45.320
 and it makes us look

00:20:45.320 --> 00:20:46.180
 like the commercial

00:20:46.180 --> 00:20:48.760
 organization of a church

00:20:48.760 --> 00:20:49.400
 and I hate it.

00:20:49.460 --> 00:20:50.400
 I met somebody yesterday,

00:20:50.760 --> 00:20:51.760
 they were in discipleship

00:20:51.760 --> 00:20:52.600
 in this coffee shop

00:20:52.600 --> 00:20:53.160
 in our city

00:20:53.160 --> 00:20:54.140
 and the person

00:20:54.140 --> 00:20:54.880
 discipling them

00:20:54.880 --> 00:20:55.440
 I know well

00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:56.680
 and she introduced

00:20:56.680 --> 00:20:57.600
 me to this person

00:20:57.600 --> 00:20:58.240
 and I said,

00:20:58.300 --> 00:20:58.680
 what brought you

00:20:58.680 --> 00:20:59.160
 to our church?

00:20:59.200 --> 00:20:59.560
 And she said,

00:20:59.580 --> 00:21:00.080
 the fact that you

00:21:00.080 --> 00:21:01.480
 don't do any marketing

00:21:01.480 --> 00:21:02.360
 let me know

00:21:02.360 --> 00:21:03.420
 that you're very different

00:21:03.420 --> 00:21:04.560
 from every other church

00:21:04.560 --> 00:21:05.060
 around here

00:21:05.060 --> 00:21:05.820
 and I just kept

00:21:05.820 --> 00:21:06.680
 hearing about you

00:21:06.680 --> 00:21:08.540
 and so I investigated.

00:21:09.100 --> 00:21:09.940
 Like we're a little bit

00:21:09.940 --> 00:21:11.060
 of a covert movement.

00:21:11.540 --> 00:21:11.880
 Like, I mean,

00:21:11.880 --> 00:21:12.500
 if you get to be

00:21:12.500 --> 00:21:13.120
 a part of us,

00:21:13.140 --> 00:21:13.580
 you had to do

00:21:13.580 --> 00:21:14.360
 a little bit of work,

00:21:14.400 --> 00:21:14.600
 right?

00:21:14.620 --> 00:21:15.740
 There's no signage

00:21:15.740 --> 00:21:16.380
 or billboards

00:21:16.380 --> 00:21:17.160
 or advertising

00:21:17.160 --> 00:21:18.380
 and we started

00:21:18.380 --> 00:21:19.000
 like that

00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:20.080
 and so somehow

00:21:20.080 --> 00:21:21.020
 40 or 50 people

00:21:21.020 --> 00:21:21.900
 showed up to a gathering

00:21:21.900 --> 00:21:22.500
 and I just said,

00:21:22.580 --> 00:21:23.180
 look, we're going to

00:21:23.180 --> 00:21:24.620
 become a church

00:21:24.620 --> 00:21:25.240
 of house churches

00:21:25.240 --> 00:21:26.920
 and if you come here,

00:21:27.020 --> 00:21:27.600
 you're going to live

00:21:27.600 --> 00:21:28.420
 in an intimate community

00:21:28.420 --> 00:21:29.040
 with people

00:21:29.040 --> 00:21:30.100
 and I defined

00:21:30.100 --> 00:21:30.920
 what house church is.

00:21:31.040 --> 00:21:31.560
 I believe it's

00:21:31.560 --> 00:21:32.660
 a diverse community

00:21:32.660 --> 00:21:34.620
 and we can talk

00:21:34.620 --> 00:21:35.340
 about that in a minute.

00:21:35.540 --> 00:21:37.040
 What are some

00:21:37.040 --> 00:21:39.200
 of the definitions

00:21:39.200 --> 00:21:40.580
 of descriptions

00:21:40.580 --> 00:21:41.480
 of a house church?

00:21:41.840 --> 00:21:42.440
 I defined

00:21:42.440 --> 00:21:42.940
 and described

00:21:42.940 --> 00:21:43.500
 what a house church

00:21:43.500 --> 00:21:44.100
 was at least

00:21:44.100 --> 00:21:44.740
 as much as I knew

00:21:44.740 --> 00:21:45.280
 at the time

00:21:45.280 --> 00:21:47.240
 and I said,

00:21:47.340 --> 00:21:47.600
 this is what

00:21:47.600 --> 00:21:48.460
 we're going to pursue together.

00:21:48.580 --> 00:21:48.760
 I said,

00:21:48.800 --> 00:21:49.220
 we'll have some

00:21:49.220 --> 00:21:50.140
 common gatherings

00:21:50.140 --> 00:21:50.720
 on Sundays

00:21:50.720 --> 00:21:51.620
 but they will not be

00:21:51.620 --> 00:21:52.700
 shows,

00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:53.860
 they will not be productions,

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 they will be like,

00:21:55.160 --> 00:21:55.580
 you know,

00:21:56.360 --> 00:21:57.220
 plastic chairs,

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 simple.

00:21:58.100 --> 00:21:58.640
 I believe,

00:21:58.920 --> 00:21:59.960
 I guess I need

00:21:59.960 --> 00:22:01.160
 to digress into this.

00:22:01.320 --> 00:22:02.000
 I do believe

00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:03.100
 when I see an Acts

00:22:03.100 --> 00:22:03.980
 and other places,

00:22:05.320 --> 00:22:05.980
 even throughout

00:22:05.980 --> 00:22:06.580
 the Old Testament,

00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:07.240
 it seems like God

00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:08.160
 really valued

00:22:08.160 --> 00:22:10.060
 people getting together

00:22:10.060 --> 00:22:10.840
 to hear the word.

00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:11.080
 I mean,

00:22:11.120 --> 00:22:11.880
 you see Ezra,

00:22:12.360 --> 00:22:12.600
 you know,

00:22:13.180 --> 00:22:14.120
 building a platform

00:22:14.120 --> 00:22:15.160
 and preaching the word

00:22:15.160 --> 00:22:16.600
 and people getting together

00:22:16.600 --> 00:22:17.080
 and singing.

00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:18.060
 You see an Old Testament,

00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:19.040
 you see a New Testament,

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 I mean,

00:22:19.440 --> 00:22:20.020
 they're getting together

00:22:20.020 --> 00:22:20.700
 by the thousands

00:22:20.700 --> 00:22:21.620
 in the temple courts

00:22:21.620 --> 00:22:23.260
 but then they're distributing

00:22:23.260 --> 00:22:24.040
 it at house churches

00:22:24.040 --> 00:22:24.720
 throughout the week

00:22:24.720 --> 00:22:26.340
 and then I see it in heaven

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 and so I see it

00:22:27.780 --> 00:22:29.120
 in historical movements too

00:22:29.120 --> 00:22:31.020
 and so I can't disparage

00:22:31.020 --> 00:22:31.680
 the gathering

00:22:31.680 --> 00:22:34.620
 but I should protect us

00:22:34.620 --> 00:22:35.640
 from becoming

00:22:35.640 --> 00:22:36.900
 gathering centric

00:22:36.900 --> 00:22:39.800
 and so we can't

00:22:39.800 --> 00:22:40.580
 disparage it.

00:22:40.840 --> 00:22:42.000
 It's biblically,

00:22:42.080 --> 00:22:43.020
 I can't unsee

00:22:43.020 --> 00:22:43.640
 the beauty

00:22:43.640 --> 00:22:44.680
 of the gathering together

00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:46.600
 but it has its function

00:22:46.600 --> 00:22:48.600
 and it's a small part

00:22:48.600 --> 00:22:50.080
 of the whole thing

00:22:50.080 --> 00:22:51.320
 and so we keep it

00:22:51.320 --> 00:22:52.400
 really scaled back.

00:22:52.520 --> 00:22:53.140
 like our gatherings

00:22:53.140 --> 00:22:54.480
 are very,

00:22:54.680 --> 00:22:55.760
 very simple.

00:22:56.160 --> 00:22:57.740
 We spend not much time

00:22:57.740 --> 00:22:58.300
 getting ready

00:22:58.300 --> 00:22:58.900
 for our gatherings.

00:22:59.040 --> 00:22:59.940
 They're done well

00:22:59.940 --> 00:23:01.780
 but they're very,

00:23:02.020 --> 00:23:02.600
 very simple

00:23:02.600 --> 00:23:03.920
 to let people know

00:23:03.920 --> 00:23:05.100
 this isn't about this

00:23:05.100 --> 00:23:06.300
 and I would actually say

00:23:06.300 --> 00:23:07.020
 our gatherings

00:23:07.020 --> 00:23:07.940
 actually exist

00:23:07.940 --> 00:23:09.040
 to support

00:23:09.040 --> 00:23:10.100
 house churches.

00:23:10.460 --> 00:23:10.580
 I mean,

00:23:10.620 --> 00:23:11.280
 the fact that

00:23:11.280 --> 00:23:12.520
 I or whoever

00:23:12.520 --> 00:23:13.420
 were preaching

00:23:13.420 --> 00:23:14.200
 through a passage

00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:14.840
 of scripture

00:23:14.840 --> 00:23:16.640
 helps our,

00:23:16.860 --> 00:23:17.620
 we're discipling

00:23:17.620 --> 00:23:18.580
 our house church pastors

00:23:18.580 --> 00:23:19.280
 because they're hearing

00:23:19.280 --> 00:23:19.800
 that teaching

00:23:19.800 --> 00:23:21.000
 and it also

00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:22.260
 helps protect

00:23:22.260 --> 00:23:23.460
 doctrinally

00:23:23.460 --> 00:23:24.280
 in the house churches

00:23:24.280 --> 00:23:25.000
 because some people

00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:25.800
 might hear something

00:23:25.800 --> 00:23:26.400
 in a house church.

00:23:26.480 --> 00:23:27.380
 Let's say a house church pastor

00:23:27.380 --> 00:23:28.540
 is going rogue doctrinally.

00:23:28.900 --> 00:23:29.500
 They got people

00:23:29.500 --> 00:23:30.160
 in their house church

00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:30.620
 that would say,

00:23:30.780 --> 00:23:31.540
 whoa, whoa, whoa,

00:23:31.600 --> 00:23:33.040
 we see a disconnect here

00:23:33.040 --> 00:23:34.320
 from what we're hearing

00:23:34.320 --> 00:23:34.940
 doctrinally

00:23:34.940 --> 00:23:35.520
 that the elders

00:23:35.520 --> 00:23:36.060
 of the church

00:23:36.060 --> 00:23:36.780
 are teaching us

00:23:36.780 --> 00:23:37.500
 and what you

00:23:37.500 --> 00:23:38.440
 as a house church pastor

00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:38.900
 are saying

00:23:38.900 --> 00:23:39.860
 and we've had

00:23:39.860 --> 00:23:40.660
 one or two instances

00:23:40.660 --> 00:23:42.240
 only out of 11 years now

00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:43.480
 where people

00:23:43.480 --> 00:23:44.000
 in a house church

00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:45.320
 have raised a concern

00:23:45.320 --> 00:23:45.900
 all the way up

00:23:45.900 --> 00:23:46.480
 to the elders.

00:23:46.760 --> 00:23:47.600
 Our house church pastor

00:23:47.600 --> 00:23:48.480
 is saying some things

00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:49.580
 that seem incongruent

00:23:49.580 --> 00:23:50.200
 with the doctrine

00:23:50.200 --> 00:23:51.400
 of the church at large

00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:53.560
 and so Sunday gatherings

00:23:53.560 --> 00:23:55.620
 really support house church

00:23:55.620 --> 00:23:56.640
 and people

00:23:56.640 --> 00:23:58.100
 want an opportunity

00:23:58.100 --> 00:23:59.240
 to worship corporately.

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 I really believe that

00:24:00.220 --> 00:24:01.360
 and so that's why

00:24:01.360 --> 00:24:02.640
 our Sunday gatherings exist

00:24:02.640 --> 00:24:04.320
 to teach sound doctrine

00:24:04.320 --> 00:24:07.160
 to protect it

00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:08.240
 within the house church

00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:09.300
 and to give people

00:24:09.300 --> 00:24:09.720
 an opportunity

00:24:09.720 --> 00:24:10.720
 to gather corporately.

00:24:11.120 --> 00:24:11.920
 So 40 people

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 when we started

00:24:13.120 --> 00:24:14.960
 I knew like four of them

00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:17.400
 and so we said,

00:24:17.520 --> 00:24:18.340
 look, we had

00:24:18.340 --> 00:24:19.700
 we had four gatherings

00:24:19.700 --> 00:24:20.340
 out of that

00:24:20.340 --> 00:24:21.660
 we had like 40 people stick

00:24:21.660 --> 00:24:22.620
 so we said,

00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:23.820
 look, we're starting somewhere

00:24:23.820 --> 00:24:24.920
 we found a little bitty warehouse

00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:26.080
 to gather in on a Sunday

00:24:26.080 --> 00:24:27.340
 at a Sunday gathering

00:24:27.340 --> 00:24:27.740
 and we said,

00:24:27.820 --> 00:24:28.380
 look, you 20

00:24:28.380 --> 00:24:29.460
 you're going to this house church

00:24:29.460 --> 00:24:29.860
 you 20

00:24:29.860 --> 00:24:30.800
 you're going to this house church

00:24:30.800 --> 00:24:32.160
 I knew one of the men

00:24:32.160 --> 00:24:33.380
 I met one of the other men

00:24:33.380 --> 00:24:34.720
 I started discipling them

00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:35.300
 every week

00:24:35.300 --> 00:24:36.200
 multiple times a week

00:24:36.200 --> 00:24:36.860
 I'd meet with them

00:24:36.860 --> 00:24:37.880
 I mean, they'd been walking

00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:38.820
 with the Lord for a while

00:24:38.820 --> 00:24:39.740
 but I wanted to make sure

00:24:39.740 --> 00:24:40.740
 their doctrine was sound

00:24:40.740 --> 00:24:41.240
 and they understood

00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:41.900
 what we were doing

00:24:41.900 --> 00:24:42.420
 so I said,

00:24:42.960 --> 00:24:43.940
 Rob, you're going to

00:24:43.940 --> 00:24:44.920
 pastor on the east side

00:24:44.920 --> 00:24:45.400
 of 45

00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:46.340
 Randy, you're going to be

00:24:46.340 --> 00:24:47.020
 the house church pastor

00:24:47.020 --> 00:24:47.640
 on the west side

00:24:47.640 --> 00:24:48.280
 of 45

00:24:48.280 --> 00:24:49.920
 40 people that were coming

00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:50.580
 if y'all want to be

00:24:50.580 --> 00:24:51.160
 a part of this

00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:52.040
 you're in a house church

00:24:52.040 --> 00:24:52.580
 so go

00:24:52.580 --> 00:24:54.660
 and two house churches

00:24:54.660 --> 00:24:55.480
 became four

00:24:55.480 --> 00:24:57.480
 in about three or four months

00:24:57.480 --> 00:24:59.500
 and they just grew

00:24:59.500 --> 00:25:00.920
 and again

00:25:00.920 --> 00:25:02.800
 people were just telling people

00:25:02.800 --> 00:25:03.760
 their friends

00:25:03.760 --> 00:25:04.240
 their neighbors

00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:05.320
 somebody's cutting their hair

00:25:05.320 --> 00:25:06.540
 which I'm way overdue

00:25:06.540 --> 00:25:07.200
 for a haircut

00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:07.880
 I get one today

00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:08.260
 thankfully

00:25:08.260 --> 00:25:09.480
 I mean, friends

00:25:09.480 --> 00:25:10.400
 are telling their friends

00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:10.900
 and neighbors

00:25:10.900 --> 00:25:11.760
 inviting people

00:25:11.760 --> 00:25:13.380
 into this new little community

00:25:13.380 --> 00:25:14.200
 they're a part of

00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:16.000
 and year one

00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:16.880
 we went from zero

00:25:16.880 --> 00:25:18.220
 to about 100 people

00:25:18.220 --> 00:25:19.500
 well, 40 to 100 people

00:25:19.500 --> 00:25:20.480
 year two

00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:21.720
 100 to 200 people

00:25:21.720 --> 00:25:22.240
 and again

00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:23.400
 we didn't change anything

00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:25.020
 years two to four

00:25:25.020 --> 00:25:26.160
 we went from 200

00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:27.260
 to 800 people

00:25:27.260 --> 00:25:28.920
 and then

00:25:28.920 --> 00:25:29.520
 and again

00:25:29.520 --> 00:25:30.640
 we changed nothing

00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:31.540
 not even

00:25:31.540 --> 00:25:33.060
 anything we do on Sundays

00:25:33.060 --> 00:25:34.320
 no marketing strategies

00:25:34.320 --> 00:25:34.700
 nothing

00:25:34.700 --> 00:25:35.780
 and then

00:25:35.780 --> 00:25:36.080
 you know

00:25:36.080 --> 00:25:36.700
 after that

00:25:36.700 --> 00:25:37.400
 it just kept

00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:38.880
 going and going

00:25:38.880 --> 00:25:39.960
 it's crazy

00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:41.560
 Is that multiplication

00:25:41.560 --> 00:25:43.220
 like is that intentional

00:25:43.220 --> 00:25:44.680
 where you've got a process

00:25:44.680 --> 00:25:46.020
 that you walk people through

00:25:46.020 --> 00:25:47.140
 is it

00:25:47.140 --> 00:25:48.420
 laissez-faire

00:25:48.420 --> 00:25:49.520
 where it just happens

00:25:49.520 --> 00:25:50.840
 naturally through it

00:25:50.840 --> 00:25:51.120
 like

00:25:51.120 --> 00:25:52.500
 what's the DNA

00:25:52.500 --> 00:25:53.820
 on the multiplication piece

00:25:53.820 --> 00:25:54.620
 within what you're doing

00:25:54.620 --> 00:25:56.160
 It's intentional

00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:56.900
 but

00:25:56.900 --> 00:25:58.340
 it's

00:25:58.340 --> 00:25:58.940
 it's

00:25:58.940 --> 00:25:59.680
 different

00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:00.900
 now

00:26:00.900 --> 00:26:01.640
 than it was

00:26:01.640 --> 00:26:02.120
 because

00:26:02.120 --> 00:26:03.020
 before

00:26:03.020 --> 00:26:03.540
 like

00:26:03.540 --> 00:26:04.540
 our intentionality

00:26:04.540 --> 00:26:05.140
 early on

00:26:05.140 --> 00:26:05.640
 was just

00:26:05.640 --> 00:26:06.620
 my relationship

00:26:06.620 --> 00:26:07.820
 with everybody

00:26:07.820 --> 00:26:09.260
 had this conversation

00:26:09.260 --> 00:26:09.840
 and we believe

00:26:09.840 --> 00:26:10.400
 every

00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:12.760
 level of discipleship

00:26:12.760 --> 00:26:13.400
 should include

00:26:13.400 --> 00:26:13.920
 multiplication

00:26:13.920 --> 00:26:14.860
 one-on-one

00:26:14.860 --> 00:26:16.020
 if I'm discipling

00:26:16.020 --> 00:26:16.480
 somebody

00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:17.560
 our intention

00:26:17.560 --> 00:26:18.040
 is that

00:26:18.040 --> 00:26:18.780
 they will in turn

00:26:18.780 --> 00:26:19.780
 disciple somebody else

00:26:19.780 --> 00:26:21.100
 a house church

00:26:21.100 --> 00:26:22.640
 and our church

00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:23.300
 we think that

00:26:23.300 --> 00:26:23.760
 our church

00:26:23.760 --> 00:26:24.580
 should be multiplying

00:26:24.580 --> 00:26:25.500
 we think a house church

00:26:25.500 --> 00:26:26.080
 should multiply

00:26:26.080 --> 00:26:27.380
 and an individual

00:26:27.380 --> 00:26:27.940
 disciple

00:26:27.940 --> 00:26:28.760
 should multiply

00:26:28.760 --> 00:26:29.740
 and so

00:26:29.740 --> 00:26:30.360
 yeah

00:26:30.360 --> 00:26:30.640
 we

00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:31.840
 we are intentional

00:26:31.840 --> 00:26:32.520
 about that

00:26:32.520 --> 00:26:33.260
 we're actually

00:26:33.260 --> 00:26:34.000
 very intentional

00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:34.500
 about that

00:26:34.500 --> 00:26:35.660
 on the individual level

00:26:35.660 --> 00:26:37.040
 we have

00:26:37.040 --> 00:26:38.480
 I met a guy last night

00:26:38.480 --> 00:26:39.100
 they moved here

00:26:39.100 --> 00:26:39.880
 from Indiana

00:26:39.880 --> 00:26:40.840
 he's a pilot

00:26:40.840 --> 00:26:42.520
 he and his wife

00:26:42.520 --> 00:26:43.600
 they have three kids

00:26:43.600 --> 00:26:45.080
 I just met him

00:26:45.080 --> 00:26:45.440
 last night

00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:45.860
 they've been here

00:26:45.860 --> 00:26:46.520
 for months

00:26:46.520 --> 00:26:47.480
 they're

00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:48.920
 they've both

00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:49.340
 been through

00:26:49.340 --> 00:26:50.680
 individual discipleship

00:26:50.680 --> 00:26:51.260
 somehow

00:26:51.260 --> 00:26:52.680
 our processes

00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:53.160
 work

00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:53.560
 and they got

00:26:53.560 --> 00:26:54.560
 connected to somebody

00:26:54.560 --> 00:26:55.140
 boom

00:26:55.140 --> 00:26:55.620
 this person

00:26:55.620 --> 00:26:56.320
 discipled them

00:26:56.320 --> 00:26:56.940
 now this guy's

00:26:56.940 --> 00:26:57.680
 already discipling

00:26:57.680 --> 00:26:58.380
 somebody else

00:26:58.380 --> 00:26:59.260
 in our body

00:26:59.260 --> 00:26:59.840
 within a matter

00:26:59.840 --> 00:27:00.260
 of months

00:27:00.260 --> 00:27:01.000
 of them being here

00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:03.060
 I meet people

00:27:03.060 --> 00:27:03.440
 in their

00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:04.920
 they may

00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:05.780
 I literally

00:27:05.780 --> 00:27:06.360
 will meet people

00:27:06.360 --> 00:27:06.840
 who have been here

00:27:06.840 --> 00:27:07.440
 for years

00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:08.420
 and I'm like

00:27:08.420 --> 00:27:08.820
 well tell me

00:27:08.820 --> 00:27:09.760
 about your house church

00:27:09.760 --> 00:27:10.060
 they're like

00:27:10.060 --> 00:27:10.640
 well we're in

00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:11.460
 this house church

00:27:11.460 --> 00:27:12.280
 and we used to

00:27:12.280 --> 00:27:12.860
 be in this one

00:27:12.860 --> 00:27:13.740
 but that one's

00:27:13.740 --> 00:27:14.660
 planted us

00:27:14.660 --> 00:27:15.160
 and so now

00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:15.500
 we're in a

00:27:15.500 --> 00:27:16.220
 different house church

00:27:16.220 --> 00:27:17.400
 and so yeah

00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:17.940
 I mean

00:27:17.940 --> 00:27:18.960
 it's intentional

00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:19.900
 but we've had

00:27:19.900 --> 00:27:20.980
 to recalibrate

00:27:20.980 --> 00:27:21.940
 it as we've

00:27:21.940 --> 00:27:22.300
 grown

00:27:22.300 --> 00:27:23.520
 we've had

00:27:23.520 --> 00:27:24.120
 to make sure

00:27:24.120 --> 00:27:25.000
 that our

00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:26.620
 systems actually

00:27:26.620 --> 00:27:28.140
 work

00:27:28.140 --> 00:27:28.640
 because our

00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:29.240
 systems when we

00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:29.620
 were a hundred

00:27:29.620 --> 00:27:30.320
 people are very

00:27:30.320 --> 00:27:31.040
 different when we're

00:27:31.040 --> 00:27:31.840
 thousands of people

00:27:31.840 --> 00:27:32.160
 now

00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:34.460
 but you know

00:27:34.460 --> 00:27:35.180
 I hear some

00:27:35.180 --> 00:27:35.840
 people sometimes

00:27:35.840 --> 00:27:36.520
 when I say

00:27:36.520 --> 00:27:37.100
 systems

00:27:37.100 --> 00:27:37.760
 they're like

00:27:37.760 --> 00:27:38.280
 ah

00:27:38.280 --> 00:27:39.080
 now you're

00:27:39.080 --> 00:27:39.420
 into an

00:27:39.420 --> 00:27:39.820
 organization

00:27:39.820 --> 00:27:40.580
 for me

00:27:40.580 --> 00:27:41.240
 and I'm like

00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:43.240
 I think the

00:27:43.240 --> 00:27:43.800
 most organic

00:27:43.800 --> 00:27:44.280
 thing in the

00:27:44.280 --> 00:27:44.720
 world

00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:46.840
 is a system

00:27:46.840 --> 00:27:47.340
 I mean

00:27:47.340 --> 00:27:48.120
 I was pre-med

00:27:48.120 --> 00:27:48.720
 so I know

00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:49.100
 about all

00:27:49.100 --> 00:27:49.440
 of the

00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:49.920
 systems

00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:50.260
 in our

00:27:50.260 --> 00:27:50.680
 body

00:27:50.680 --> 00:27:51.340
 there's so

00:27:51.340 --> 00:27:51.540
 many

00:27:51.540 --> 00:27:52.140
 ecological

00:27:52.140 --> 00:27:52.720
 systems

00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:53.040
 that we

00:27:53.040 --> 00:27:53.320
 have

00:27:53.320 --> 00:27:53.880
 I think

00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:54.380
 the difference

00:27:54.380 --> 00:27:54.860
 between an

00:27:54.860 --> 00:27:55.540
 organization

00:27:55.540 --> 00:27:55.960
 and an

00:27:55.960 --> 00:27:56.400
 organism

00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:57.000
 is not

00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:57.240
 that we

00:27:57.240 --> 00:27:57.380
 have

00:27:57.380 --> 00:27:57.800
 systems

00:27:57.800 --> 00:27:58.740
 it's that

00:27:58.740 --> 00:27:59.600
 the systems

00:27:59.600 --> 00:28:00.100
 for us

00:28:00.100 --> 00:28:00.340
 they're

00:28:00.340 --> 00:28:01.060
 autonomic

00:28:01.060 --> 00:28:01.380
 they're

00:28:01.380 --> 00:28:01.860
 invisible

00:28:01.860 --> 00:28:02.860
 and they're

00:28:02.860 --> 00:28:03.320
 not the

00:28:03.320 --> 00:28:03.740
 point

00:28:03.740 --> 00:28:04.480
 the point

00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:04.900
 is the

00:28:04.900 --> 00:28:05.340
 organ

00:28:05.340 --> 00:28:05.840
 the point

00:28:05.840 --> 00:28:06.120
 isn't

00:28:06.120 --> 00:28:06.700
 the system

00:28:06.700 --> 00:28:07.240
 and so

00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:07.820
 for us

00:28:07.820 --> 00:28:08.640
 our systems

00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:08.840
 are

00:28:08.840 --> 00:28:09.520
 autonomic

00:28:09.520 --> 00:28:09.720
 they're

00:28:09.720 --> 00:28:10.140
 simple

00:28:10.140 --> 00:28:10.440
 they're

00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:10.860
 invisible

00:28:10.860 --> 00:28:11.520
 you can't

00:28:11.520 --> 00:28:11.980
 even really

00:28:11.980 --> 00:28:12.640
 see them

00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:13.320
 they just

00:28:13.320 --> 00:28:14.140
 naturally

00:28:14.140 --> 00:28:14.860
 function

00:28:14.860 --> 00:28:15.520
 and so

00:28:15.520 --> 00:28:15.840
 we've had

00:28:15.840 --> 00:28:16.260
 to figure

00:28:16.260 --> 00:28:16.740
 out how

00:28:16.740 --> 00:28:17.400
 those systems

00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:18.080
 adapt

00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:19.060
 as we

00:28:19.060 --> 00:28:19.240
 have

00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:19.760
 grown

00:28:19.760 --> 00:28:21.120
 and that's

00:28:21.120 --> 00:28:21.760
 been difficult

00:28:21.760 --> 00:28:22.200
 I mean

00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:22.800
 I would say

00:28:22.800 --> 00:28:23.340
 that in the

00:28:23.340 --> 00:28:24.020
 last year

00:28:24.020 --> 00:28:24.840
 because we've

00:28:24.840 --> 00:28:25.480
 grown so

00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:25.960
 much

00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:26.820
 during and

00:28:26.820 --> 00:28:27.240
 since the

00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:27.660
 pandemic

00:28:27.660 --> 00:28:28.580
 we've had to

00:28:28.580 --> 00:28:29.360
 recalibrate

00:28:29.360 --> 00:28:30.180
 some systems

00:28:30.180 --> 00:28:31.280
 and we want

00:28:31.280 --> 00:28:31.660
 to make sure

00:28:31.660 --> 00:28:32.100
 our systems

00:28:32.100 --> 00:28:32.900
 are always

00:28:32.900 --> 00:28:33.700
 people systems

00:28:33.700 --> 00:28:34.720
 they're never

00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:36.180
 click a button

00:28:36.180 --> 00:28:36.780
 system

00:28:36.780 --> 00:28:37.920
 and they're

00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:38.420
 never

00:28:38.420 --> 00:28:40.120
 you know

00:28:40.120 --> 00:28:41.860
 they're never

00:28:41.860 --> 00:28:42.300
 electronic

00:28:42.300 --> 00:28:42.940
 systems

00:28:42.940 --> 00:28:43.420
 they're people

00:28:43.420 --> 00:28:43.920
 systems

00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:44.620
 and so

00:28:44.620 --> 00:28:44.920
 we don't

00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:45.240
 have a

00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:45.540
 system

00:28:45.540 --> 00:28:46.700
 that doesn't

00:28:46.700 --> 00:28:47.200
 immediately

00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:47.720
 connect

00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:48.260
 to people

00:28:48.260 --> 00:28:49.040
 and so

00:28:49.040 --> 00:28:49.340
 that's

00:28:49.340 --> 00:28:49.660
 that's

00:28:49.660 --> 00:28:49.900
 been the

00:28:49.900 --> 00:28:50.340
 difficulties

00:28:50.340 --> 00:28:50.660
 we've

00:28:50.660 --> 00:28:50.920
 grown

00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:51.440
 yeah

00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:51.820
 like I

00:28:51.820 --> 00:28:52.000
 won't

00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:52.400
 even pull

00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:52.760
 that thread

00:28:52.760 --> 00:28:53.040
 a little

00:28:53.040 --> 00:28:53.320
 bit

00:28:53.320 --> 00:28:53.880
 so

00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:55.540
 I am

00:28:55.540 --> 00:28:56.360
 interested

00:28:56.360 --> 00:28:56.800
 in coming

00:28:56.800 --> 00:28:57.160
 to your

00:28:57.160 --> 00:28:57.440
 church

00:28:57.440 --> 00:28:57.860
 you don't

00:28:57.860 --> 00:28:58.320
 market

00:28:58.320 --> 00:28:59.100
 so

00:28:59.100 --> 00:29:00.300
 like

00:29:00.300 --> 00:29:01.080
 it would

00:29:01.080 --> 00:29:01.680
 a new

00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:02.100
 person

00:29:02.100 --> 00:29:02.460
 coming

00:29:02.460 --> 00:29:02.900
 to a

00:29:02.900 --> 00:29:03.200
 house

00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:03.680
 church

00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:04.520
 would that

00:29:04.520 --> 00:29:04.900
 person

00:29:04.900 --> 00:29:05.220
 come

00:29:05.220 --> 00:29:05.420
 through

00:29:05.420 --> 00:29:05.560
 an

00:29:05.560 --> 00:29:06.120
 individual

00:29:06.120 --> 00:29:07.180
 is there

00:29:07.180 --> 00:29:07.920
 a website

00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:08.500
 with a

00:29:08.500 --> 00:29:08.860
 listing

00:29:08.860 --> 00:29:09.440
 like

00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:10.080
 what

00:29:10.080 --> 00:29:10.700
 what is

00:29:10.700 --> 00:29:11.260
 what's

00:29:11.260 --> 00:29:11.460
 that

00:29:11.460 --> 00:29:12.000
 first

00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:12.540
 step

00:29:12.540 --> 00:29:13.040
 into

00:29:13.040 --> 00:29:13.240
 the

00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:13.440
 house

00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:13.740
 are we

00:29:13.740 --> 00:29:14.020
 okay

00:29:14.020 --> 00:29:14.500
 inviting

00:29:14.500 --> 00:29:15.320
 complete

00:29:15.320 --> 00:29:15.780
 strangers

00:29:15.780 --> 00:29:16.100
 into

00:29:16.100 --> 00:29:16.280
 the

00:29:16.280 --> 00:29:16.520
 house

00:29:16.520 --> 00:29:16.820
 is there

00:29:16.820 --> 00:29:17.100
 any

00:29:17.100 --> 00:29:18.020
 privacy

00:29:18.020 --> 00:29:18.480
 or

00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:19.040
 concern

00:29:19.040 --> 00:29:19.440
 centered

00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:19.700
 around

00:29:19.700 --> 00:29:19.980
 that

00:29:19.980 --> 00:29:20.220
 like

00:29:20.220 --> 00:29:20.780
 what

00:29:20.780 --> 00:29:21.180
 what is

00:29:21.180 --> 00:29:21.500
 that

00:29:21.500 --> 00:29:21.940
 early

00:29:21.940 --> 00:29:22.800
 gestation

00:29:22.800 --> 00:29:23.380
 look like

00:29:23.380 --> 00:29:23.900
 yeah

00:29:23.900 --> 00:29:24.560
 I mean

00:29:24.560 --> 00:29:25.460
 your questions

00:29:25.460 --> 00:29:26.240
 are informed

00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:26.860
 and I love

00:29:26.860 --> 00:29:27.140
 them

00:29:27.140 --> 00:29:28.040
 and they're

00:29:28.040 --> 00:29:28.460
 important

00:29:28.460 --> 00:29:28.960
 I mean

00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:29.300
 the things

00:29:29.300 --> 00:29:29.600
 that you're

00:29:29.600 --> 00:29:30.060
 asking

00:29:30.060 --> 00:29:30.580
 actually

00:29:30.580 --> 00:29:31.700
 really matter

00:29:31.700 --> 00:29:32.180
 they matter

00:29:32.180 --> 00:29:32.800
 to us

00:29:32.800 --> 00:29:33.480
 and these

00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:33.880
 are the things

00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:34.140
 that we

00:29:34.140 --> 00:29:34.600
 care about

00:29:34.600 --> 00:29:34.940
 too

00:29:34.940 --> 00:29:36.140
 so

00:29:36.140 --> 00:29:36.520
 how does

00:29:36.520 --> 00:29:36.720
 somebody

00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:37.140
 find out

00:29:37.140 --> 00:29:37.600
 about church

00:29:37.600 --> 00:29:37.940
 project

00:29:37.940 --> 00:29:38.760
 generally

00:29:38.760 --> 00:29:39.780
 they find

00:29:39.780 --> 00:29:39.900
 out

00:29:39.900 --> 00:29:40.100
 about

00:29:40.100 --> 00:29:40.400
 church

00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:40.900
 project

00:29:40.900 --> 00:29:41.480
 because

00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:41.820
 somebody

00:29:41.820 --> 00:29:42.160
 told

00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:42.340
 them

00:29:42.340 --> 00:29:42.640
 about

00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:42.940
 church

00:29:42.940 --> 00:29:43.380
 project

00:29:43.380 --> 00:29:43.940
 I mean

00:29:43.940 --> 00:29:44.320
 we say

00:29:44.320 --> 00:29:44.520
 look

00:29:44.520 --> 00:29:44.700
 the

00:29:44.700 --> 00:29:46.040
 I mean

00:29:46.040 --> 00:29:46.260
 the

00:29:46.260 --> 00:29:46.980
 early

00:29:46.980 --> 00:29:47.460
 Christian

00:29:47.460 --> 00:29:47.820
 movement

00:29:47.820 --> 00:29:48.240
 happened

00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:48.840
 from people

00:29:48.840 --> 00:29:49.100
 telling

00:29:49.100 --> 00:29:49.500
 people

00:29:49.500 --> 00:29:50.140
 and we

00:29:50.140 --> 00:29:50.300
 say

00:29:50.300 --> 00:29:50.560
 the more

00:29:50.560 --> 00:29:50.880
 we love

00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:51.220
 Jesus

00:29:51.220 --> 00:29:51.580
 the more

00:29:51.580 --> 00:29:51.740
 we're

00:29:51.740 --> 00:29:51.920
 going to

00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:52.080
 love

00:29:52.080 --> 00:29:52.200
 what

00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:52.320
 he

00:29:52.320 --> 00:29:52.660
 loved

00:29:52.660 --> 00:29:53.420
 and so

00:29:53.420 --> 00:29:54.160
 so

00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:54.860
 our

00:29:54.860 --> 00:29:55.180
 building

00:29:55.180 --> 00:29:55.620
 was used

00:29:55.620 --> 00:29:55.860
 by

00:29:55.860 --> 00:29:56.320
 Lifeway

00:29:56.320 --> 00:29:56.760
 one time

00:29:56.760 --> 00:29:57.220
 to do

00:29:57.220 --> 00:29:57.440
 this

00:29:57.440 --> 00:29:58.100
 big

00:29:58.100 --> 00:29:59.160
 video

00:29:59.160 --> 00:29:59.640
 shoot

00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:00.340
 somebody

00:30:00.340 --> 00:30:00.600
 in our

00:30:00.600 --> 00:30:00.860
 church

00:30:00.860 --> 00:30:01.180
 is an

00:30:01.180 --> 00:30:01.480
 author

00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:02.000
 and they

00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:02.260
 asked

00:30:02.260 --> 00:30:02.480
 to use

00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:02.620
 our

00:30:02.620 --> 00:30:02.940
 building

00:30:02.940 --> 00:30:03.160
 and we

00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:03.280
 said

00:30:03.280 --> 00:30:03.640
 of course

00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:04.520
 and then

00:30:04.520 --> 00:30:04.920
 they brought

00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:05.380
 in a

00:30:05.380 --> 00:30:05.660
 really

00:30:05.660 --> 00:30:05.960
 world

00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:06.560
 famous

00:30:06.560 --> 00:30:07.360
 speaker

00:30:07.360 --> 00:30:07.920
 that was

00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:08.200
 part of

00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:08.340
 this

00:30:08.340 --> 00:30:08.640
 video

00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:09.100
 series

00:30:09.100 --> 00:30:10.480
 and so

00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:11.640
 I won't

00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:11.960
 use her

00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:12.220
 name

00:30:12.220 --> 00:30:12.620
 but she's

00:30:12.620 --> 00:30:13.040
 awesome

00:30:13.040 --> 00:30:14.040
 and so

00:30:14.040 --> 00:30:15.840
 I see

00:30:15.840 --> 00:30:16.440
 this lady

00:30:16.440 --> 00:30:18.180
 a few

00:30:18.180 --> 00:30:18.660
 months later

00:30:18.660 --> 00:30:18.940
 I'm in

00:30:18.940 --> 00:30:19.300
 Africa

00:30:19.300 --> 00:30:19.780
 with her

00:30:19.780 --> 00:30:20.840
 and she

00:30:20.840 --> 00:30:21.220
 says

00:30:21.220 --> 00:30:21.780
 Jason

00:30:21.780 --> 00:30:22.660
 let me

00:30:22.660 --> 00:30:22.920
 tell you

00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:23.260
 about my

00:30:23.260 --> 00:30:23.780
 experience

00:30:23.780 --> 00:30:24.100
 in your

00:30:24.100 --> 00:30:24.460
 city

00:30:24.460 --> 00:30:25.660
 she said

00:30:25.660 --> 00:30:26.320
 I

00:30:26.320 --> 00:30:27.340
 got out

00:30:27.340 --> 00:30:27.500
 of

00:30:27.500 --> 00:30:28.680
 I got

00:30:28.680 --> 00:30:28.880
 out of

00:30:28.880 --> 00:30:29.300
 the airport

00:30:29.300 --> 00:30:29.660
 and I

00:30:29.660 --> 00:30:30.160
 ubered

00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:30.800
 to your

00:30:30.800 --> 00:30:32.020
 to

00:30:32.020 --> 00:30:33.060
 the area

00:30:33.060 --> 00:30:33.300
 of the

00:30:33.300 --> 00:30:33.460
 city

00:30:33.460 --> 00:30:33.660
 where

00:30:33.660 --> 00:30:33.840
 you

00:30:33.840 --> 00:30:34.340
 live

00:30:34.340 --> 00:30:35.220
 and

00:30:35.220 --> 00:30:36.660
 I

00:30:36.660 --> 00:30:37.720
 get in

00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:37.820
 a

00:30:37.820 --> 00:30:38.300
 conversation

00:30:38.300 --> 00:30:38.580
 in the

00:30:38.580 --> 00:30:38.780
 car

00:30:38.780 --> 00:30:38.940
 with

00:30:38.940 --> 00:30:39.060
 the

00:30:39.060 --> 00:30:39.240
 uber

00:30:39.240 --> 00:30:39.600
 driver

00:30:39.600 --> 00:30:40.320
 and the

00:30:40.320 --> 00:30:40.560
 uber

00:30:40.560 --> 00:30:40.840
 driver

00:30:40.840 --> 00:30:41.180
 starts

00:30:41.180 --> 00:30:41.500
 talking

00:30:41.500 --> 00:30:41.780
 to me

00:30:41.780 --> 00:30:42.000
 about

00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:42.500
 Jesus

00:30:42.500 --> 00:30:43.340
 finds

00:30:43.340 --> 00:30:43.500
 out

00:30:43.500 --> 00:30:43.680
 I'm

00:30:43.680 --> 00:30:43.820
 a

00:30:43.820 --> 00:30:44.040
 believer

00:30:44.040 --> 00:30:44.340
 and I

00:30:44.340 --> 00:30:44.600
 asked

00:30:44.600 --> 00:30:44.720
 the

00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:44.900
 uber

00:30:44.900 --> 00:30:45.200
 driver

00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:46.900
 are you

00:30:46.900 --> 00:30:47.140
 part

00:30:47.140 --> 00:30:47.240
 of

00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:47.380
 a

00:30:47.380 --> 00:30:47.560
 church

00:30:47.560 --> 00:30:47.860
 community

00:30:47.860 --> 00:30:48.100
 here

00:30:48.100 --> 00:30:48.180
 and

00:30:48.180 --> 00:30:48.300
 they

00:30:48.300 --> 00:30:48.440
 said

00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:48.640
 yes

00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:48.760
 a

00:30:48.760 --> 00:30:48.880
 thing

00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:49.020
 called

00:30:49.020 --> 00:30:49.260
 church

00:30:49.260 --> 00:30:49.620
 project

00:30:49.620 --> 00:30:49.980
 she's

00:30:49.980 --> 00:30:50.160
 like

00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:51.180
 I'm

00:30:51.180 --> 00:30:51.440
 actually

00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:51.720
 going

00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:51.880
 there

00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:52.020
 to

00:30:52.020 --> 00:30:52.180
 shoot

00:30:52.180 --> 00:30:52.300
 a

00:30:52.300 --> 00:30:52.520
 video

00:30:52.520 --> 00:30:52.740
 later

00:30:52.740 --> 00:30:52.900
 to

00:30:52.900 --> 00:30:53.080
 use

00:30:53.080 --> 00:30:53.220
 their

00:30:53.220 --> 00:30:53.540
 building

00:30:53.540 --> 00:30:54.580
 she

00:30:54.580 --> 00:30:54.780
 goes

00:30:54.780 --> 00:30:54.920
 into

00:30:54.920 --> 00:30:55.100
 the

00:30:55.100 --> 00:30:55.500
 hotel

00:30:55.500 --> 00:30:56.120
 the

00:30:56.120 --> 00:30:56.460
 person

00:30:56.460 --> 00:30:56.720
 who's

00:30:56.720 --> 00:30:56.860
 the

00:30:56.860 --> 00:30:57.540
 receptionist

00:30:57.540 --> 00:30:57.640
 of

00:30:57.640 --> 00:30:57.760
 the

00:30:57.760 --> 00:30:58.160
 hotel

00:30:58.160 --> 00:30:58.880
 has

00:30:58.880 --> 00:30:59.000
 a

00:30:59.000 --> 00:30:59.500
 conversation

00:30:59.500 --> 00:30:59.760
 with

00:30:59.760 --> 00:30:59.940
 her

00:30:59.940 --> 00:31:00.600
 and

00:31:00.600 --> 00:31:00.940
 what

00:31:00.940 --> 00:31:01.020
 are

00:31:01.020 --> 00:31:01.120
 you

00:31:01.120 --> 00:31:01.320
 doing

00:31:01.320 --> 00:31:01.520
 here

00:31:01.520 --> 00:31:01.720
 I'm

00:31:01.720 --> 00:31:01.800
 going

00:31:01.800 --> 00:31:01.880
 to

00:31:01.880 --> 00:31:02.000
 do

00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:02.120
 a

00:31:02.120 --> 00:31:02.320
 video

00:31:02.320 --> 00:31:02.560
 shoot

00:31:02.560 --> 00:31:02.780
 oh

00:31:02.780 --> 00:31:03.000
 cool

00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:03.160
 for

00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:03.400
 what

00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:03.560
 she

00:31:03.560 --> 00:31:03.820
 tells

00:31:03.820 --> 00:31:03.940
 her

00:31:03.940 --> 00:31:04.140
 oh

00:31:04.140 --> 00:31:04.480
 great

00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:05.260
 where

00:31:05.260 --> 00:31:05.340
 are

00:31:05.340 --> 00:31:05.420
 you

00:31:05.420 --> 00:31:05.600
 doing

00:31:05.600 --> 00:31:05.800
 that

00:31:05.800 --> 00:31:05.940
 I

00:31:05.940 --> 00:31:06.040
 at

00:31:06.040 --> 00:31:06.100
 a

00:31:06.100 --> 00:31:06.260
 place

00:31:06.260 --> 00:31:06.420
 called

00:31:06.420 --> 00:31:06.620
 church

00:31:06.620 --> 00:31:06.860
 product

00:31:06.860 --> 00:31:07.020
 your

00:31:07.020 --> 00:31:07.360
 reception

00:31:07.360 --> 00:31:07.660
 says

00:31:07.660 --> 00:31:08.340
 I

00:31:08.340 --> 00:31:09.160
 actually

00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:10.120
 am

00:31:10.120 --> 00:31:10.260
 a

00:31:10.260 --> 00:31:10.420
 part

00:31:10.420 --> 00:31:10.520
 of

00:31:10.520 --> 00:31:10.720
 that

00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:11.560
 and

00:31:11.560 --> 00:31:11.680
 so

00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:11.800
 they

00:31:11.800 --> 00:31:11.980
 start

00:31:11.980 --> 00:31:12.340
 talking

00:31:12.340 --> 00:31:13.240
 she

00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:13.460
 goes

00:31:13.460 --> 00:31:13.560
 and

00:31:13.560 --> 00:31:13.680
 gets

00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:13.820
 her

00:31:24.580 --> 00:31:24.960
 talking

00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:25.180
 about

00:31:25.180 --> 00:31:25.460
 I

00:31:25.460 --> 00:31:25.560
 had

00:31:25.560 --> 00:31:25.620
 a

00:31:25.620 --> 00:31:25.780
 guy

00:31:25.780 --> 00:31:25.960
 from

00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:26.260
 Sydney

00:31:26.260 --> 00:31:26.660
 Australia

00:31:26.660 --> 00:31:26.980
 call

00:31:26.980 --> 00:31:27.080
 me

00:31:27.080 --> 00:31:27.240
 during

00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:27.360
 the

00:31:27.360 --> 00:31:27.760
 pandemic

00:31:27.760 --> 00:31:28.000
 we

00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:28.220
 had

00:31:28.220 --> 00:31:28.380
 a

00:31:28.380 --> 00:31:28.580
 zoom

00:31:28.580 --> 00:31:28.820
 call

00:31:28.820 --> 00:31:29.020
 like

00:31:29.020 --> 00:31:29.280
 this

00:31:29.280 --> 00:31:29.400
 and

00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:29.500
 he

00:31:29.500 --> 00:31:29.700
 said

00:31:29.700 --> 00:31:30.040
 well

00:31:30.040 --> 00:31:30.680
 if

00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:31.080
 the

00:31:31.080 --> 00:31:31.320
 Sunday

00:31:31.320 --> 00:31:31.800
 gathering

00:31:31.800 --> 00:31:32.000
 is

00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:32.300
 about

00:31:32.300 --> 00:31:33.240
 discipleship

00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:33.380
 and

00:31:33.380 --> 00:31:33.520
 you're

00:31:33.520 --> 00:31:33.800
 teaching

00:31:33.800 --> 00:31:34.000
 the

00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:34.240
 word

00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:34.380
 and

00:31:34.380 --> 00:31:34.500
 all

00:31:34.500 --> 00:31:34.660
 that

00:31:34.660 --> 00:31:34.880
 he's

00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:35.000
 like

00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:35.260
 what's

00:31:35.260 --> 00:31:35.420
 your

00:31:35.420 --> 00:31:36.400
 strategy

00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:36.700
 for

00:31:36.700 --> 00:31:37.360
 evangelism

00:31:37.360 --> 00:31:37.620
 and

00:31:37.620 --> 00:31:37.740
 I

00:31:37.740 --> 00:31:38.020
 said

00:31:38.020 --> 00:31:39.340
 evangelists

00:31:39.340 --> 00:31:40.560
 he's

00:31:40.560 --> 00:31:40.660
 like

00:31:40.660 --> 00:31:40.780
 what

00:31:40.780 --> 00:31:40.860
 do

00:31:40.860 --> 00:31:40.880
 you

00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:41.060
 mean

00:31:41.060 --> 00:31:41.200
 and

00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:41.280
 I

00:31:41.280 --> 00:31:41.500
 said

00:31:41.500 --> 00:31:42.060
 our

00:31:42.060 --> 00:31:42.600
 evangelism

00:31:42.600 --> 00:31:42.940
 strategy

00:31:42.940 --> 00:31:43.120
 is

00:31:43.120 --> 00:31:44.460
 evangelists

00:31:44.460 --> 00:31:45.740
 is

00:31:45.740 --> 00:31:46.500
 evangelists

00:31:46.500 --> 00:31:47.280
 like

00:31:47.280 --> 00:31:48.340
 is

00:31:48.340 --> 00:31:48.480
 our

00:31:54.580 --> 00:31:56.320
 evangelists

00:31:56.320 --> 00:31:57.160
 that's

00:31:57.160 --> 00:31:57.280
 our

00:31:57.280 --> 00:31:57.780
 evangelism

00:31:57.780 --> 00:31:58.220
 strategy

00:31:58.220 --> 00:31:58.380
 and

00:31:58.380 --> 00:31:58.500
 that

00:31:58.500 --> 00:31:58.640
 was

00:31:58.640 --> 00:31:58.960
 Jesus

00:31:58.960 --> 00:31:59.700
 evangelism

00:31:59.700 --> 00:32:00.060
 strategy

00:32:00.060 --> 00:32:00.680
 I

00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:01.020
 believe

00:32:01.020 --> 00:32:02.300
 discipleship

00:32:02.300 --> 00:32:03.400
 produces

00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:04.260
 evangelism

00:32:04.260 --> 00:32:04.440
 I

00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:04.760
 believe

00:32:04.760 --> 00:32:05.040
 that

00:32:05.040 --> 00:32:05.940
 and

00:32:05.940 --> 00:32:06.220
 so

00:32:06.220 --> 00:32:06.760
 most

00:32:06.760 --> 00:32:06.920
 people

00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:07.100
 come

00:32:07.100 --> 00:32:07.180
 to

00:32:07.180 --> 00:32:07.300
 our

00:32:07.300 --> 00:32:07.500
 church

00:32:07.500 --> 00:32:07.680
 because

00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:07.940
 somebody

00:32:07.940 --> 00:32:08.380
 invited

00:32:08.380 --> 00:32:08.760
 them

00:32:08.760 --> 00:32:09.460
 you

00:32:09.460 --> 00:32:09.640
 can

00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:09.940
 google

00:32:09.940 --> 00:32:10.260
 church

00:32:10.260 --> 00:32:10.660
 project

00:32:10.660 --> 00:32:11.040
 and

00:32:11.040 --> 00:32:11.140
 then

00:32:11.140 --> 00:32:11.240
 you

00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:11.400
 can

00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:11.680
 find

00:32:11.680 --> 00:32:12.140
 stuff

00:32:12.140 --> 00:32:12.520
 and

00:32:12.520 --> 00:32:12.640
 so

00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:12.860
 some

00:32:12.860 --> 00:32:13.020
 people

00:32:13.020 --> 00:32:13.200
 do

00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:13.540
 google

00:32:13.540 --> 00:32:13.780
 it

00:32:13.780 --> 00:32:14.040
 to

00:32:14.040 --> 00:32:14.280
 find

00:32:14.280 --> 00:32:14.440
 out

00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:14.880
 what's

00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:15.060
 going

00:32:15.060 --> 00:32:15.240
 on

00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:15.340
 they

00:32:15.340 --> 00:32:15.480
 want

00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:15.580
 to

00:32:15.580 --> 00:32:15.700
 do

00:32:15.700 --> 00:32:15.820
 a

00:32:15.820 --> 00:32:15.980
 deep

00:32:15.980 --> 00:32:16.200
 dive

00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:16.300
 on

00:32:16.300 --> 00:32:16.400
 our

00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:16.840
 website

00:32:16.840 --> 00:32:17.040
 what

00:32:17.040 --> 00:32:17.120
 do

00:32:17.120 --> 00:32:17.160
 you

00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:17.560
 believe

00:32:17.560 --> 00:32:17.760
 or

00:32:17.760 --> 00:32:18.240
 what

00:32:24.580 --> 00:32:29.900
 people

00:32:29.900 --> 00:32:30.960
 who

00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:31.060
 are

00:32:31.060 --> 00:32:31.260
 looking

00:32:31.260 --> 00:32:31.420
 for

00:32:31.420 --> 00:32:31.680
 something

00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:32.160
 different

00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:32.400
 are

00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:32.680
 fine

00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:32.840
 with

00:32:32.840 --> 00:32:33.200
 that

00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:33.580
 somebody

00:32:33.580 --> 00:32:33.740
 who

00:32:33.740 --> 00:32:33.960
 doesn't

00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:34.100
 want

00:32:34.100 --> 00:32:34.320
 something

00:32:34.320 --> 00:32:34.640
 different

00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:34.860
 they're

00:32:34.860 --> 00:32:35.000
 not

00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:35.100
 going

00:32:35.100 --> 00:32:35.180
 to

00:32:35.180 --> 00:32:35.460
 come

00:32:35.460 --> 00:32:35.720
 here

00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:37.060
 so

00:32:37.060 --> 00:32:37.340
 yeah

00:32:37.340 --> 00:32:37.800
 but

00:32:37.800 --> 00:32:38.520
 here's

00:32:38.520 --> 00:32:38.700
 the

00:32:38.700 --> 00:32:39.060
 really

00:32:39.060 --> 00:32:39.580
 wild

00:32:39.580 --> 00:32:39.920
 thing

00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:40.180
 Jeff

00:32:40.180 --> 00:32:40.820
 people

00:32:40.820 --> 00:32:41.020
 go

00:32:41.020 --> 00:32:41.100
 to

00:32:41.100 --> 00:32:41.240
 the

00:32:41.240 --> 00:32:41.460
 house

00:32:41.460 --> 00:32:41.680
 church

00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:42.100
 closest

00:32:42.100 --> 00:32:42.340
 to

00:32:42.340 --> 00:32:42.560
 them

00:32:42.560 --> 00:32:43.900
 so

00:32:43.900 --> 00:32:45.060
 most

00:32:45.060 --> 00:32:46.120
 gathering

00:32:46.120 --> 00:32:47.480
 in

00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:48.140
 history

00:32:48.140 --> 00:32:49.200
 of

00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:49.400
 the

00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:49.840
 church

00:32:49.840 --> 00:32:50.060
 that

00:32:50.060 --> 00:32:50.260
 we

00:32:50.260 --> 00:32:50.520
 know

00:32:50.520 --> 00:32:50.720
 it

00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:52.000
 is

00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:52.680
 homogenous

00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:53.260
 gathering

00:32:53.260 --> 00:32:53.860
 but

00:32:53.860 --> 00:32:54.260
 most

00:32:54.260 --> 00:32:54.820
 gathering

00:32:54.820 --> 00:32:55.740
 biblically

00:32:55.740 --> 00:32:56.940
 historically

00:32:56.940 --> 00:32:57.460
 and

00:32:57.460 --> 00:32:57.960
 globally

00:32:57.960 --> 00:32:58.420
 is

00:32:58.420 --> 00:32:58.720
 not

00:32:58.720 --> 00:32:59.300
 homogenous

00:32:59.300 --> 00:33:00.080
 it's

00:33:00.080 --> 00:33:00.620
 diverse

00:33:00.620 --> 00:33:01.400
 and so

00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:01.800
 Paul's

00:33:01.800 --> 00:33:02.060
 telling

00:33:02.060 --> 00:33:02.680
 have

00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:02.820
 the

00:33:02.820 --> 00:33:03.100
 older

00:33:03.100 --> 00:33:03.240
 and

00:33:03.240 --> 00:33:03.360
 the

00:33:03.360 --> 00:33:03.560
 younger

00:33:03.560 --> 00:33:03.980
 people

00:33:03.980 --> 00:33:04.980
 disciple

00:33:04.980 --> 00:33:05.200
 one

00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:05.520
 another

00:33:05.520 --> 00:33:05.720
 have

00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:05.820
 the

00:33:05.820 --> 00:33:06.020
 older

00:33:06.020 --> 00:33:06.260
 people

00:33:06.260 --> 00:33:06.480
 teach

00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:06.580
 the

00:33:06.580 --> 00:33:06.740
 younger

00:33:06.740 --> 00:33:06.980
 people

00:33:06.980 --> 00:33:07.300
 this

00:33:07.300 --> 00:33:08.240
 they're

00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:08.480
 living

00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:08.620
 in

00:33:08.620 --> 00:33:08.940
 community

00:33:08.940 --> 00:33:09.360
 together

00:33:09.360 --> 00:33:10.260
 rich

00:33:10.260 --> 00:33:10.460
 and

00:33:10.460 --> 00:33:10.680
 poor

00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:10.880
 like

00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:11.000
 the

00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:11.200
 church

00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:11.360
 in

00:33:11.360 --> 00:33:11.680
 Corinth

00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:11.840
 the

00:33:11.840 --> 00:33:12.000
 rich

00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:12.120
 and

00:33:12.120 --> 00:33:12.260
 poor

00:33:12.260 --> 00:33:12.400
 were

00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:12.620
 having

00:33:12.620 --> 00:33:13.080
 issues

00:33:13.080 --> 00:33:13.300
 well

00:33:13.300 --> 00:33:13.480
 that's

00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:13.680
 because

00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:13.840
 they

00:33:13.840 --> 00:33:13.980
 were

00:33:13.980 --> 00:33:14.920
 living

00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:15.280
 life

00:33:15.280 --> 00:33:15.640
 together

00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:15.860
 and

00:33:15.860 --> 00:33:16.000
 Paul

00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:16.140
 had

00:33:16.140 --> 00:33:16.240
 to

00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:16.400
 help

00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:17.300
 older

00:33:17.300 --> 00:33:17.740
 younger

00:33:17.740 --> 00:33:18.200
 rich

00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:18.520
 poor

00:33:18.520 --> 00:33:18.920
 married

00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:19.320
 unmarried

00:33:19.320 --> 00:33:19.700
 have

00:33:19.700 --> 00:33:19.860
 the

00:33:19.860 --> 00:33:20.400
 immature

00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:20.640
 and

00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:20.740
 the

00:33:20.740 --> 00:33:21.160
 mature

00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:21.840
 let's

00:33:21.840 --> 00:33:21.980
 have

00:33:21.980 --> 00:33:22.120
 the

00:33:22.120 --> 00:33:22.520
 mature

00:33:22.520 --> 00:33:23.420
 help

00:33:23.420 --> 00:33:23.580
 the

00:33:23.580 --> 00:33:23.840
 others

00:33:23.840 --> 00:33:24.220
 come up

00:33:24.220 --> 00:33:24.480
 to our

00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:24.760
 level

00:33:24.760 --> 00:33:24.980
 of

00:33:24.980 --> 00:33:25.400
 maturity

00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:25.660
 until

00:33:25.660 --> 00:33:25.820
 we

00:33:25.820 --> 00:33:26.080
 all

00:33:26.080 --> 00:33:26.360
 reach

00:33:26.360 --> 00:33:26.660
 unity

00:33:26.660 --> 00:33:26.920
 in the

00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:27.180
 faith

00:33:27.180 --> 00:33:27.400
 he would

00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:27.660
 say

00:33:27.660 --> 00:33:28.240
 and

00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:28.500
 so

00:33:28.500 --> 00:33:29.740
 we

00:33:29.740 --> 00:33:30.240
 don't

00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:30.440
 have

00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:30.780
 any

00:33:30.780 --> 00:33:31.280
 distinction

00:33:31.280 --> 00:33:31.500
 of

00:33:31.500 --> 00:33:31.620
 where

00:33:31.620 --> 00:33:31.780
 we

00:33:31.780 --> 00:33:32.040
 gather

00:33:32.040 --> 00:33:32.380
 other

00:33:32.380 --> 00:33:32.620
 than

00:33:32.620 --> 00:33:33.500
 geographically

00:33:33.500 --> 00:33:34.100
 and

00:33:34.100 --> 00:33:34.220
 I

00:33:34.220 --> 00:33:34.420
 know

00:33:34.420 --> 00:33:34.620
 that

00:33:34.620 --> 00:33:34.960
 that's

00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:35.600
 really

00:33:35.600 --> 00:33:35.960
 odd

00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:36.140
 for

00:33:36.140 --> 00:33:36.480
 people

00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:36.920
 but

00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:37.040
 I'm

00:33:37.040 --> 00:33:37.300
 telling

00:33:37.300 --> 00:33:37.600
 you

00:33:37.600 --> 00:33:38.080
 I

00:33:38.080 --> 00:33:38.480
 think

00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:38.860
 people's

00:33:38.860 --> 00:33:39.340
 default

00:33:39.340 --> 00:33:39.640
 you

00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:39.840
 would

00:33:39.840 --> 00:33:40.300
 maybe

00:33:40.300 --> 00:33:40.800
 agree

00:33:40.800 --> 00:33:41.620
 is

00:33:41.620 --> 00:33:42.760
 people's

00:33:42.760 --> 00:33:43.060
 default

00:33:43.060 --> 00:33:43.400
 is to

00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:43.580
 the

00:33:43.580 --> 00:33:43.920
 least

00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:44.380
 invasive

00:33:44.380 --> 00:33:44.760
 form

00:33:44.760 --> 00:33:44.900
 of

00:33:44.900 --> 00:33:45.340
 community

00:33:45.340 --> 00:33:45.880
 so

00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:45.980
 I

00:33:45.980 --> 00:33:46.060
 want

00:33:46.060 --> 00:33:46.140
 to

00:33:46.140 --> 00:33:46.240
 get

00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:46.420
 around

00:33:46.420 --> 00:33:46.660
 people

00:33:46.660 --> 00:33:46.800
 who

00:33:46.800 --> 00:33:46.920
 are

00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:47.160
 just

00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:47.340
 like

00:33:47.340 --> 00:33:47.600
 me

00:33:47.600 --> 00:33:48.160
 sort

00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:48.280
 of

00:33:48.280 --> 00:33:48.500
 my

00:33:48.500 --> 00:33:49.440
 socioeconomic

00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:50.080
 status

00:33:50.080 --> 00:33:50.880
 my

00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:51.260
 level

00:33:51.260 --> 00:33:51.440
 of

00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:51.740
 spiritual

00:33:51.740 --> 00:33:52.320
 maturity

00:33:52.320 --> 00:33:52.900
 I

00:33:52.900 --> 00:33:53.160
 really

00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:53.480
 we're

00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:53.840
 creating

00:33:53.840 --> 00:33:54.040
 in

00:33:54.040 --> 00:33:54.300
 church

00:33:54.300 --> 00:33:54.880
 friends

00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:55.320
 which

00:33:55.320 --> 00:33:55.480
 is

00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:55.860
 good

00:33:55.860 --> 00:33:56.140
 we

00:33:56.140 --> 00:33:56.360
 need

00:33:56.360 --> 00:33:56.760
 friends

00:33:56.760 --> 00:33:57.560
 but

00:33:57.560 --> 00:33:57.980
 the

00:33:57.980 --> 00:33:58.480
 description

00:33:58.480 --> 00:33:59.080
 of

00:33:59.080 --> 00:33:59.380
 church

00:33:59.380 --> 00:33:59.580
 is

00:33:59.580 --> 00:33:59.760
 more

00:33:59.760 --> 00:34:00.200
 family

00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:00.460
 in

00:34:00.460 --> 00:34:00.580
 the

00:34:00.580 --> 00:34:00.800
 Bible

00:34:00.800 --> 00:34:01.000
 than

00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:01.120
 it

00:34:01.120 --> 00:34:01.280
 is

00:34:01.280 --> 00:34:01.680
 friends

00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:02.340
 and

00:34:02.340 --> 00:34:02.560
 so

00:34:02.560 --> 00:34:03.120
 we've

00:34:03.120 --> 00:34:03.240
 had

00:34:03.240 --> 00:34:03.400
 to

00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:03.600
 figure

00:34:03.600 --> 00:34:03.940
 out

00:34:03.940 --> 00:34:04.720
 actually

00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:05.340
 not

00:34:05.340 --> 00:34:05.520
 how

00:34:05.520 --> 00:34:05.640
 to

00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:05.860
 create

00:34:05.860 --> 00:34:06.320
 family

00:34:06.320 --> 00:34:06.640
 we've

00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:06.740
 had

00:34:06.740 --> 00:34:06.860
 to

00:34:06.860 --> 00:34:07.380
 figure

00:34:07.380 --> 00:34:07.560
 out

00:34:07.560 --> 00:34:07.660
 how

00:34:07.660 --> 00:34:07.780
 to

00:34:07.780 --> 00:34:08.000
 create

00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:08.520
 friendship

00:34:08.520 --> 00:34:09.200
 churches

00:34:09.200 --> 00:34:09.420
 are

00:34:09.420 --> 00:34:09.780
 structured

00:34:09.780 --> 00:34:10.260
 for

00:34:10.260 --> 00:34:11.260
 homogenous

00:34:11.260 --> 00:34:11.980
 friendship

00:34:11.980 --> 00:34:12.660
 groups

00:34:12.660 --> 00:34:13.420
 but

00:34:13.420 --> 00:34:13.600
 they

00:34:13.600 --> 00:34:13.780
 don't

00:34:13.780 --> 00:34:14.080
 produce

00:34:14.080 --> 00:34:14.800
 discipleship

00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:14.960
 like

00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:15.360
 family

00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:15.720
 does

00:34:15.720 --> 00:34:16.280
 and

00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:16.520
 so

00:34:16.520 --> 00:34:17.280
 now

00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:17.520
 what

00:34:17.520 --> 00:34:17.740
 we've

00:34:17.740 --> 00:34:17.860
 had

00:34:17.860 --> 00:34:17.980
 to

00:34:17.980 --> 00:34:18.160
 do

00:34:18.160 --> 00:34:18.320
 is

00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:25.620
 meet

00:34:25.620 --> 00:34:26.460
 single

00:34:26.460 --> 00:34:26.880
 mom

00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:27.500
 in

00:34:27.500 --> 00:34:27.660
 one

00:34:27.660 --> 00:34:27.740
 of

00:34:27.740 --> 00:34:27.880
 these

00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:28.080
 other

00:34:28.080 --> 00:34:28.300
 house

00:34:28.300 --> 00:34:28.580
 churches

00:34:28.580 --> 00:34:29.120
 how

00:34:29.120 --> 00:34:29.220
 do

00:34:29.220 --> 00:34:29.320
 they

00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:29.540
 meet

00:34:29.540 --> 00:34:29.740
 each

00:34:29.740 --> 00:34:29.960
 other

00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:30.440
 so

00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:30.740
 we'll

00:34:30.740 --> 00:34:30.900
 have

00:34:30.900 --> 00:34:31.000
 an

00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:31.380
 event

00:34:31.380 --> 00:34:31.660
 for

00:34:31.660 --> 00:34:32.040
 single

00:34:32.040 --> 00:34:32.440
 moms

00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:32.620
 so

00:34:32.620 --> 00:34:32.900
 house

00:34:32.900 --> 00:34:33.100
 church

00:34:33.100 --> 00:34:33.440
 pastors

00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:33.660
 will

00:34:33.660 --> 00:34:33.800
 say

00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:34.060
 hey

00:34:34.060 --> 00:34:34.360
 single

00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:34.660
 moms

00:34:34.660 --> 00:34:35.320
 we're

00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:35.540
 having

00:34:35.540 --> 00:34:35.720
 a

00:34:35.720 --> 00:34:35.940
 dinner

00:34:35.940 --> 00:34:36.180
 for

00:34:36.180 --> 00:34:36.420
 single

00:34:36.420 --> 00:34:36.800
 moms

00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:37.140
 and

00:34:37.140 --> 00:34:37.820
 it's

00:34:37.820 --> 00:34:37.960
 no

00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:38.360
 program

00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:38.660
 they're

00:34:38.660 --> 00:34:38.780
 just

00:34:38.780 --> 00:34:38.900
 going

00:34:38.900 --> 00:34:38.960
 to

00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:39.060
 get

00:34:39.060 --> 00:34:39.380
 together

00:34:39.380 --> 00:34:39.580
 and

00:34:39.580 --> 00:34:39.740
 build

00:34:39.740 --> 00:34:39.880
 a

00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:40.180
 friendship

00:34:40.180 --> 00:34:40.860
 we'll

00:34:40.860 --> 00:34:41.000
 do

00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:41.160
 that

00:34:41.160 --> 00:34:41.340
 with

00:34:41.340 --> 00:34:41.560
 young

00:34:41.560 --> 00:34:41.980
 adults

00:34:41.980 --> 00:34:42.460
 we have

00:34:42.460 --> 00:34:42.640
 young

00:34:42.640 --> 00:34:42.900
 adults

00:34:42.900 --> 00:34:44.660
 somebody

00:34:44.660 --> 00:34:44.820
 will

00:34:44.820 --> 00:34:44.980
 get

00:34:44.980 --> 00:34:45.100
 out

00:34:45.100 --> 00:34:45.220
 of

00:34:45.220 --> 00:34:45.500
 college

00:34:45.500 --> 00:34:45.700
 move

00:34:45.700 --> 00:34:45.780
 to

00:34:45.780 --> 00:34:45.920
 our

00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:46.200
 area

00:34:46.200 --> 00:34:46.420
 come

00:34:46.420 --> 00:34:46.540
 to

00:34:46.540 --> 00:34:46.660
 our

00:34:46.660 --> 00:34:47.000
 place

00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:47.120
 and

00:34:47.120 --> 00:34:47.200
 they'll

00:34:47.200 --> 00:34:47.280
 be

00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:47.420
 like

00:34:47.420 --> 00:34:47.580
 hey

00:34:47.580 --> 00:34:48.060
 where's

00:34:48.060 --> 00:34:48.180
 the

00:34:48.180 --> 00:34:48.340
 young

00:34:48.340 --> 00:34:48.660
 adult

00:34:48.660 --> 00:34:49.060
 group

00:34:49.060 --> 00:34:49.860
 we're

00:34:49.860 --> 00:34:50.000
 like

00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:50.120
 we

00:34:50.120 --> 00:34:50.220
 don't

00:34:50.220 --> 00:34:50.440
 have

00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:50.660
 one

00:34:50.660 --> 00:34:51.260
 they'll

00:34:51.260 --> 00:34:51.360
 say

00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:51.540
 you don't

00:34:51.540 --> 00:34:51.660
 have

00:34:51.660 --> 00:34:51.760
 any

00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:51.920
 young

00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:52.260
 adults

00:34:52.260 --> 00:34:52.720
 oh no

00:34:52.720 --> 00:34:53.000
 we have

00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:53.320
 hundreds

00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:53.920
 of them

00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:54.400
 where are

00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:54.580
 they

00:34:54.580 --> 00:34:55.100
 well they're

00:34:55.100 --> 00:34:55.440
 in house

00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:55.660
 churches

00:34:55.660 --> 00:34:56.140
 all over

00:34:56.140 --> 00:34:56.820
 and then

00:34:56.820 --> 00:34:57.100
 they're

00:34:57.100 --> 00:34:57.260
 like

00:34:57.260 --> 00:34:57.460
 I

00:34:57.460 --> 00:34:57.600
 don't

00:34:57.600 --> 00:34:57.760
 think

00:34:57.760 --> 00:34:57.940
 that's

00:34:57.940 --> 00:34:58.060
 gonna

00:34:58.060 --> 00:34:58.400
 work

00:34:58.400 --> 00:34:58.600
 but

00:34:58.600 --> 00:34:58.740
 they'll

00:34:58.740 --> 00:34:59.020
 try

00:34:59.020 --> 00:34:59.160
 it

00:34:59.160 --> 00:34:59.420
 out

00:34:59.420 --> 00:34:59.780
 and

00:34:59.780 --> 00:34:59.900
 now

00:34:59.900 --> 00:35:00.120
 they have

00:35:00.120 --> 00:35:00.220
 a

00:35:00.220 --> 00:35:00.440
 house

00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:00.880
 pastor

00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:01.160
 and

00:35:01.160 --> 00:35:02.040
 six

00:35:02.040 --> 00:35:02.260
 months

00:35:02.260 --> 00:35:02.480
 later

00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:02.700
 they're

00:35:02.700 --> 00:35:03.260
 engaged

00:35:03.260 --> 00:35:03.500
 I

00:35:03.500 --> 00:35:03.600
 mean

00:35:03.600 --> 00:35:03.840
 that's

00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:03.980
 a

00:35:03.980 --> 00:35:04.280
 story

00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:04.580
 that's

00:35:04.580 --> 00:35:04.860
 happening

00:35:04.860 --> 00:35:05.140
 here

00:35:05.140 --> 00:35:05.280
 all

00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:05.420
 the

00:35:05.420 --> 00:35:05.760
 time

00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:06.480
 and

00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:06.740
 so

00:35:06.740 --> 00:35:07.340
 yeah

00:35:07.340 --> 00:35:07.600
 people

00:35:07.600 --> 00:35:07.800
 can

00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:07.920
 go

00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:08.020
 to

00:35:08.020 --> 00:35:08.140
 a

00:35:08.140 --> 00:35:08.400
 house

00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:08.640
 church

00:35:08.640 --> 00:35:09.620
 I

00:35:09.620 --> 00:35:10.420
 can't

00:35:10.420 --> 00:35:10.800
 picture

00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:11.020
 a

00:35:11.020 --> 00:35:11.500
 scenario

00:35:11.500 --> 00:35:12.020
 anywhere

00:35:12.020 --> 00:35:12.180
 in

00:35:12.180 --> 00:35:12.300
 the

00:35:12.300 --> 00:35:12.600
 Bible

00:35:12.600 --> 00:35:13.260
 where

00:35:13.260 --> 00:35:13.440
 they're

00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:13.620
 like

00:35:13.620 --> 00:35:14.100
 our

00:35:14.100 --> 00:35:14.360
 group

00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:14.520
 is

00:35:14.520 --> 00:35:14.960
 closed

00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:15.680
 can't

00:35:15.680 --> 00:35:15.940
 come

00:35:15.940 --> 00:35:17.460
 what

00:35:17.460 --> 00:35:18.140
 no

00:35:18.140 --> 00:35:18.840
 if

00:35:18.840 --> 00:35:18.960
 your

00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:19.140
 group

00:35:19.140 --> 00:35:19.280
 is

00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:19.480
 too

00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:19.860
 big

00:35:19.860 --> 00:35:20.940
 and

00:35:20.940 --> 00:35:21.060
 it

00:35:21.060 --> 00:35:21.200
 needs

00:35:21.200 --> 00:35:21.280
 to

00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:21.400
 be

00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:21.760
 closed

00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:21.940
 you

00:35:21.940 --> 00:35:22.080
 need

00:35:22.080 --> 00:35:22.200
 to

00:35:22.200 --> 00:35:22.600
 multiply

00:35:22.600 --> 00:35:23.580
 so

00:35:23.580 --> 00:35:23.860
 we

00:35:23.860 --> 00:35:24.020
 don't

00:35:24.020 --> 00:35:24.420
 close

00:35:24.420 --> 00:35:24.760
 anything

00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:25.100
 we're

00:35:25.100 --> 00:35:25.180
 going

00:35:25.180 --> 00:35:25.260
 to

00:35:25.260 --> 00:35:25.480
 keep

00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:25.820
 somebody

00:35:25.820 --> 00:35:26.140
 out

00:35:26.140 --> 00:35:26.560
 so

00:35:26.560 --> 00:35:26.700
 the

00:35:32.700 --> 00:35:32.920
 we're

00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:33.040
 going

00:35:33.040 --> 00:35:33.100
 to

00:35:33.100 --> 00:35:33.260
 say

00:35:33.260 --> 00:35:33.540
 oh

00:35:33.540 --> 00:35:33.860
 sorry

00:35:33.860 --> 00:35:34.060
 it's

00:35:34.060 --> 00:35:34.360
 closed

00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:34.620
 not

00:35:34.620 --> 00:35:34.880
 good

00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:35.980
 we'll

00:35:35.980 --> 00:35:36.260
 never

00:35:36.260 --> 00:35:36.600
 close

00:35:36.600 --> 00:35:36.740
 it

00:35:36.740 --> 00:35:37.120
 we've

00:35:37.120 --> 00:35:37.480
 never

00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:37.840
 closed

00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:38.120
 anything

00:35:38.120 --> 00:35:38.640
 nothing's

00:35:38.640 --> 00:35:38.980
 closed

00:35:38.980 --> 00:35:39.640
 and a

00:35:39.640 --> 00:35:39.780
 lot

00:35:39.780 --> 00:35:39.900
 of

00:35:39.900 --> 00:35:40.080
 people

00:35:40.080 --> 00:35:40.200
 are

00:35:40.200 --> 00:35:40.380
 like

00:35:40.380 --> 00:35:40.640
 I

00:35:40.640 --> 00:35:40.900
 don't

00:35:40.900 --> 00:35:41.160
 like

00:35:41.160 --> 00:35:41.560
 that

00:35:41.560 --> 00:35:42.460
 because

00:35:42.460 --> 00:35:42.980
 you know

00:35:42.980 --> 00:35:43.460
 we have

00:35:43.460 --> 00:35:43.620
 an

00:35:43.620 --> 00:35:43.880
 intimate

00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:44.460
 group

00:35:44.460 --> 00:35:44.760
 and we

00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:44.880
 want

00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:44.980
 to

00:35:44.980 --> 00:35:45.160
 keep

00:35:45.160 --> 00:35:45.280
 it

00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:45.440
 that

00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:45.700
 way

00:35:45.700 --> 00:35:46.140
 I'm

00:35:46.140 --> 00:35:46.400
 telling

00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:46.680
 you

00:35:46.680 --> 00:35:47.260
 that's

00:35:47.260 --> 00:35:47.460
 why

00:35:47.460 --> 00:35:47.780
 we're

00:35:47.780 --> 00:35:48.360
 not

00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:49.160
 evangelistic

00:35:49.160 --> 00:35:49.520
 we're

00:35:49.520 --> 00:35:49.840
 not

00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:50.080
 geared

00:35:50.080 --> 00:35:50.320
 toward

00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:50.480
 the

00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:50.860
 gospel

00:35:50.860 --> 00:35:51.160
 we're

00:35:51.160 --> 00:35:51.620
 selfish

00:35:51.620 --> 00:35:51.960
 and

00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:52.120
 we're

00:35:52.120 --> 00:35:52.540
 putting

00:35:52.540 --> 00:35:53.320
 ourselves

00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:53.560
 in

00:35:53.560 --> 00:35:53.920
 groups

00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:54.140
 of

00:35:54.140 --> 00:35:54.420
 people

00:35:54.420 --> 00:35:54.560
 who

00:35:54.560 --> 00:35:54.700
 are

00:35:54.700 --> 00:35:54.960
 just

00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:55.220
 like

00:35:55.220 --> 00:35:55.560
 us

00:35:55.560 --> 00:35:56.000
 and

00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:56.400
 really

00:35:56.400 --> 00:35:57.180
 that's

00:35:57.180 --> 00:35:57.420
 why

00:35:57.420 --> 00:35:58.180
 we

00:35:58.180 --> 00:35:58.540
 don't

00:35:58.540 --> 00:35:58.880
 have

00:35:58.880 --> 00:35:59.260
 deep

00:35:59.260 --> 00:35:59.920
 discipleship

00:35:59.920 --> 00:36:00.280
 happening

00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:00.460
 in

00:36:00.460 --> 00:36:00.740
 churches

00:36:00.740 --> 00:36:01.000
 because

00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:01.140
 it's

00:36:01.140 --> 00:36:01.400
 people

00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:01.600
 just

00:36:01.600 --> 00:36:01.800
 like

00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:02.080
 us

00:36:02.080 --> 00:36:02.240
 I

00:36:02.240 --> 00:36:02.320
 don't

00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:02.460
 have

00:36:02.460 --> 00:36:02.760
 older

00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:03.100
 people

00:36:03.100 --> 00:36:03.400
 younger

00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:03.780
 people

00:36:03.780 --> 00:36:04.080
 rich

00:36:04.080 --> 00:36:04.340
 people

00:36:04.340 --> 00:36:04.620
 poor

00:36:04.620 --> 00:36:04.880
 people

00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:05.240
 married

00:36:05.240 --> 00:36:05.400
 and

00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:05.680
 married

00:36:05.680 --> 00:36:06.480
 spiritually

00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:06.860
 mature

00:36:06.860 --> 00:36:07.320
 and mature

00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:07.700
 so

00:36:07.700 --> 00:36:08.260
 yeah

00:36:08.260 --> 00:36:08.880
 so

00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:09.440
 let me

00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:09.640
 ask

00:36:09.640 --> 00:36:09.880
 this

00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:10.220
 you're

00:36:10.220 --> 00:36:10.460
 you're

00:36:10.460 --> 00:36:10.820
 reaching

00:36:10.820 --> 00:36:11.480
 four

00:36:11.480 --> 00:36:12.020
 five

00:36:12.020 --> 00:36:12.280
 thousand

00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:12.680
 people

00:36:12.680 --> 00:36:12.860
 it

00:36:12.860 --> 00:36:13.060
 sounds

00:36:13.060 --> 00:36:13.300
 like

00:36:13.300 --> 00:36:13.680
 connected

00:36:13.680 --> 00:36:14.480
 it's

00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:15.040
 so

00:36:15.040 --> 00:36:15.500
 broad

00:36:15.500 --> 00:36:16.060
 it's

00:36:16.060 --> 00:36:16.200
 hard

00:36:16.200 --> 00:36:16.340
 to

00:36:16.340 --> 00:36:16.620
 track

00:36:16.620 --> 00:36:16.780
 you're

00:36:16.780 --> 00:36:16.880
 not

00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:17.140
 actually

00:36:17.140 --> 00:36:17.340
 sure

00:36:17.340 --> 00:36:17.620
 what's

00:36:24.420 --> 00:36:24.720
 people

00:36:24.720 --> 00:36:24.940
 that

00:36:24.940 --> 00:36:25.220
 have

00:36:25.220 --> 00:36:25.820
 full

00:36:25.820 --> 00:36:26.020
 time

00:36:26.020 --> 00:36:26.280
 jobs

00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:26.460
 you

00:36:26.460 --> 00:36:26.600
 don't

00:36:26.600 --> 00:36:26.840
 have

00:36:26.840 --> 00:36:27.140
 a

00:36:27.140 --> 00:36:27.480
 staff

00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:28.040
 person

00:36:28.040 --> 00:36:28.760
 at

00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:29.160
 every

00:36:29.160 --> 00:36:29.720
 house

00:36:29.720 --> 00:36:30.060
 church

00:36:30.060 --> 00:36:30.400
 what

00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:31.020
 what's

00:36:31.020 --> 00:36:31.460
 actual

00:36:31.460 --> 00:36:31.720
 your

00:36:31.720 --> 00:36:32.140
 staff

00:36:32.140 --> 00:36:32.900
 infrastructure

00:36:32.900 --> 00:36:33.360
 to

00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:34.140
 manage

00:36:34.140 --> 00:36:35.000
 what's

00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:35.400
 happening

00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:36.300
 is it

00:36:36.300 --> 00:36:36.460
 all

00:36:36.460 --> 00:36:37.220
 centralized

00:36:37.220 --> 00:36:38.060
 decentralized

00:36:38.060 --> 00:36:38.840
 it's

00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:39.160
 elders

00:36:39.160 --> 00:36:40.180
 who's

00:36:40.180 --> 00:36:40.380
 getting

00:36:40.380 --> 00:36:40.700
 paid

00:36:40.700 --> 00:36:40.880
 in

00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:41.160
 this

00:36:41.160 --> 00:36:41.520
 is

00:36:41.520 --> 00:36:41.900
 anybody

00:36:41.900 --> 00:36:42.420
 yeah

00:36:42.420 --> 00:36:42.600
 they

00:36:42.600 --> 00:36:42.940
 are

00:36:42.940 --> 00:36:43.520
 but

00:36:43.520 --> 00:36:43.720
 we

00:36:43.720 --> 00:36:43.920
 have

00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:44.200
 about

00:36:44.200 --> 00:36:44.480
 one

00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:44.880
 fifth

00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:45.120
 one

00:36:45.120 --> 00:36:45.520
 sixth

00:36:45.520 --> 00:36:45.760
 the

00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:46.100
 staff

00:36:46.100 --> 00:36:46.500
 size

00:36:46.500 --> 00:36:46.640
 that

00:36:46.640 --> 00:36:46.840
 most

00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:47.180
 people

00:36:47.180 --> 00:36:47.580
 at

00:36:47.580 --> 00:36:47.780
 church

00:36:47.780 --> 00:36:47.920
 our

00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:48.160
 size

00:36:48.160 --> 00:36:48.360
 would

00:36:48.360 --> 00:36:48.500
 in

00:36:48.500 --> 00:36:48.720
 fact

00:36:48.720 --> 00:36:49.380
 there's

00:36:49.380 --> 00:36:49.500
 a

00:36:49.500 --> 00:36:49.840
 church

00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:50.760
 that

00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:50.860
 I

00:36:50.860 --> 00:36:51.020
 was

00:36:51.020 --> 00:36:51.380
 looking

00:36:51.380 --> 00:36:51.580
 at

00:36:54.420 --> 00:36:54.600
 time

00:36:54.600 --> 00:36:55.020
 pastors

00:36:55.020 --> 00:36:55.340
 as

00:36:55.340 --> 00:36:55.940
 we

00:36:55.940 --> 00:36:56.240
 do

00:36:56.240 --> 00:36:57.840
 so

00:36:57.840 --> 00:36:58.520
 yeah

00:36:58.520 --> 00:36:58.700
 I

00:36:58.700 --> 00:36:58.820
 mean

00:36:58.820 --> 00:36:58.960
 we

00:36:58.960 --> 00:36:59.200
 have

00:36:59.200 --> 00:37:02.020
 house

00:37:02.020 --> 00:37:02.200
 church

00:37:02.200 --> 00:37:02.600
 pastors

00:37:02.600 --> 00:37:02.900
 who

00:37:02.900 --> 00:37:03.060
 are

00:37:03.060 --> 00:37:03.620
 pastoring

00:37:03.620 --> 00:37:05.060
 you

00:37:05.060 --> 00:37:05.260
 know

00:37:05.260 --> 00:37:05.680
 20

00:37:05.680 --> 00:37:06.020
 30

00:37:06.020 --> 00:37:06.320
 40

00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:06.720
 people

00:37:06.720 --> 00:37:08.000
 sometimes

00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:08.420
 more

00:37:08.420 --> 00:37:08.760
 sometimes

00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:09.260
 less

00:37:09.260 --> 00:37:10.120
 when

00:37:10.120 --> 00:37:10.240
 it

00:37:10.240 --> 00:37:10.420
 gets

00:37:10.420 --> 00:37:10.600
 to

00:37:10.600 --> 00:37:10.780
 be

00:37:10.780 --> 00:37:11.000
 that

00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:11.280
 big

00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:11.580
 we're

00:37:11.580 --> 00:37:11.980
 hoping

00:37:11.980 --> 00:37:12.400
 that

00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:13.840
 we're

00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:13.940
 in

00:37:13.940 --> 00:37:14.060
 a

00:37:14.060 --> 00:37:14.400
 process

00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:14.740
 of

00:37:14.740 --> 00:37:15.260
 multiplication

00:37:15.260 --> 00:37:16.000
 already

00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:17.080
 but

00:37:17.080 --> 00:37:17.240
 we

00:37:17.240 --> 00:37:17.360
 don't

00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:17.500
 want

00:37:17.500 --> 00:37:17.600
 to

00:37:17.600 --> 00:37:18.000
 you

00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:18.120
 know

00:37:18.120 --> 00:37:18.400
 another

00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:18.760
 tension

00:37:18.760 --> 00:37:18.920
 we

00:37:18.920 --> 00:37:19.040
 could

00:37:19.040 --> 00:37:19.160
 get

00:37:19.160 --> 00:37:19.340
 into

00:37:19.340 --> 00:37:19.480
 at

00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:19.640
 some

00:37:19.640 --> 00:37:19.800
 point

00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:19.900
 is

00:37:19.900 --> 00:37:20.020
 how

00:37:20.020 --> 00:37:20.100
 do

00:37:20.100 --> 00:37:20.200
 we

00:37:20.200 --> 00:37:20.580
 launch

00:37:20.580 --> 00:37:20.800
 a

00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:21.440
 house

00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:21.620
 church

00:37:21.620 --> 00:37:21.780
 when

00:37:21.780 --> 00:37:21.900
 we

00:37:21.900 --> 00:37:22.020
 don't

00:37:22.020 --> 00:37:22.160
 have

00:37:22.160 --> 00:37:22.260
 a

00:37:22.260 --> 00:37:22.480
 house

00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:22.640
 church

00:37:22.640 --> 00:37:22.940
 pastor

00:37:22.940 --> 00:37:23.260
 ready

00:37:23.260 --> 00:37:25.000
 and

00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:25.220
 so

00:37:25.220 --> 00:37:25.400
 the

00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:25.600
 house

00:37:25.600 --> 00:37:25.740
 church

00:37:25.740 --> 00:37:25.880
 is

00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:26.020
 too

00:37:26.020 --> 00:37:26.400
 big

00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:26.580
 but

00:37:26.580 --> 00:37:26.680
 we

00:37:26.680 --> 00:37:26.800
 don't

00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:26.920
 want

00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:27.020
 to

00:37:27.020 --> 00:37:27.160
 send

00:37:27.160 --> 00:37:27.260
 them

00:37:27.260 --> 00:37:27.460
 away

00:37:27.460 --> 00:37:27.580
 to

00:37:27.580 --> 00:37:27.860
 somebody

00:37:27.860 --> 00:37:28.220
 who's

00:37:28.220 --> 00:37:28.400
 not

00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:28.780
 prepared

00:37:28.780 --> 00:37:29.060
 yet

00:37:29.060 --> 00:37:29.640
 so

00:37:29.640 --> 00:37:29.880
 there's

00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:30.020
 a

00:37:30.020 --> 00:37:30.360
 tension

00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:30.600
 there

00:37:30.600 --> 00:37:30.740
 that

00:37:30.740 --> 00:37:30.880
 we're

00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:31.100
 always

00:37:31.100 --> 00:37:31.300
 having

00:37:31.300 --> 00:37:31.460
 to

00:37:31.460 --> 00:37:31.820
 manage

00:37:31.820 --> 00:37:33.300
 so

00:37:33.300 --> 00:37:33.440
 the

00:37:33.440 --> 00:37:33.640
 house

00:37:33.640 --> 00:37:34.120
 pastor

00:37:34.120 --> 00:37:34.460
 really

00:37:34.460 --> 00:37:34.740
 I mean

00:37:34.740 --> 00:37:35.320
 we have

00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:35.500
 a

00:37:35.500 --> 00:37:37.820
 fire

00:37:37.820 --> 00:37:38.220
 captain

00:37:38.220 --> 00:37:39.120
 for

00:37:39.120 --> 00:37:39.580
 the city

00:37:39.580 --> 00:37:39.980
 of Houston

00:37:39.980 --> 00:37:40.520
 is a

00:37:40.520 --> 00:37:40.840
 house

00:37:40.840 --> 00:37:41.000
 church

00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:41.340
 pastor

00:37:41.340 --> 00:37:41.620
 to

00:37:41.620 --> 00:37:41.780
 a

00:37:41.780 --> 00:37:41.940
 great

00:37:41.940 --> 00:37:42.240
 medical

00:37:42.240 --> 00:37:42.620
 doctor

00:37:42.620 --> 00:37:43.000
 to

00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:43.560
 teachers

00:37:43.560 --> 00:37:43.880
 and

00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:44.440
 engineers

00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:44.700
 and

00:37:44.700 --> 00:37:45.300
 businessmen

00:37:45.300 --> 00:37:45.520
 and

00:37:45.520 --> 00:37:46.240
 all

00:37:46.240 --> 00:37:46.540
 that

00:37:46.540 --> 00:37:47.700
 counselors

00:37:47.700 --> 00:37:48.120
 whatever

00:37:48.120 --> 00:37:48.520
 but

00:37:48.520 --> 00:37:48.680
 they

00:37:48.680 --> 00:37:48.860
 have

00:37:48.860 --> 00:37:49.360
 real

00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:49.780
 jobs

00:37:49.780 --> 00:37:50.060
 that's

00:37:50.060 --> 00:37:50.140
 why

00:37:50.140 --> 00:37:50.260
 we

00:37:50.260 --> 00:37:50.420
 keep

00:37:50.420 --> 00:37:50.540
 their

00:37:50.540 --> 00:37:50.740
 house

00:37:50.740 --> 00:37:50.900
 churches

00:37:50.900 --> 00:37:51.320
 small

00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:51.460
 and

00:37:51.460 --> 00:37:51.860
 manageable

00:37:51.860 --> 00:37:52.620
 but

00:37:52.620 --> 00:37:53.100
 the

00:37:53.100 --> 00:37:53.860
 centrality

00:37:53.860 --> 00:37:54.700
 yeah

00:37:54.700 --> 00:37:56.200
 we have

00:37:56.200 --> 00:37:57.100
 a team

00:37:57.100 --> 00:37:57.960
 and

00:37:57.960 --> 00:37:58.400
 they're

00:37:58.400 --> 00:37:58.780
 small

00:37:58.780 --> 00:37:59.960
 and

00:37:59.960 --> 00:38:00.480
 really

00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:00.940
 the only

00:38:00.940 --> 00:38:01.160
 people

00:38:01.160 --> 00:38:01.400
 who can

00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:01.980
 find us

00:38:01.980 --> 00:38:02.420
 are

00:38:02.420 --> 00:38:03.300
 house

00:38:03.300 --> 00:38:03.500
 church

00:38:03.500 --> 00:38:03.900
 pastors

00:38:03.900 --> 00:38:04.840
 or the

00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:05.080
 people

00:38:05.080 --> 00:38:05.300
 in that

00:38:05.300 --> 00:38:05.480
 team

00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:05.580
 we're

00:38:05.580 --> 00:38:05.760
 leading

00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:05.980
 so

00:38:05.980 --> 00:38:06.140
 for

00:38:06.140 --> 00:38:06.480
 example

00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:06.700
 we

00:38:06.700 --> 00:38:06.920
 have

00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:07.520
 a

00:38:07.520 --> 00:38:07.860
 global

00:38:07.860 --> 00:38:08.300
 pastor

00:38:08.300 --> 00:38:08.540
 who

00:38:08.540 --> 00:38:08.980
 handles

00:38:08.980 --> 00:38:09.580
 he

00:38:09.580 --> 00:38:10.240
 oversees

00:38:10.240 --> 00:38:10.620
 all

00:38:10.620 --> 00:38:10.780
 the

00:38:10.780 --> 00:38:10.980
 things

00:38:10.980 --> 00:38:11.100
 we

00:38:11.100 --> 00:38:11.300
 do

00:38:11.300 --> 00:38:12.060
 locally

00:38:12.060 --> 00:38:12.880
 anything

00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:13.160
 with

00:38:13.160 --> 00:38:13.480
 global

00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:13.760
 people

00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:14.000
 here

00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:14.140
 in

00:38:14.140 --> 00:38:14.440
 Houston

00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:15.140
 and

00:38:15.140 --> 00:38:15.360
 all

00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:15.460
 of

00:38:15.460 --> 00:38:15.580
 our

00:38:15.580 --> 00:38:15.860
 global

00:38:15.860 --> 00:38:16.240
 stuff

00:38:16.240 --> 00:38:16.460
 so

00:38:16.460 --> 00:38:17.200
 he's

00:38:17.200 --> 00:38:18.640
 discipling

00:38:18.640 --> 00:38:19.140
 and

00:38:19.140 --> 00:38:19.700
 pastoring

00:38:19.700 --> 00:38:20.000
 our

00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:20.540
 pastors

00:38:20.540 --> 00:38:20.760
 in

00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:21.320
 Malawi

00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:21.580
 or

00:38:21.580 --> 00:38:22.000
 Haiti

00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:22.500
 or

00:38:22.500 --> 00:38:23.240
 Mexico

00:38:23.240 --> 00:38:23.640
 or

00:38:23.640 --> 00:38:23.980
 wherever

00:38:23.980 --> 00:38:24.220
 we

00:38:24.220 --> 00:38:24.400
 have

00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:24.640
 stuff

00:38:24.640 --> 00:38:24.920
 going

00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:25.220
 on

00:38:25.220 --> 00:38:25.960
 and

00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:26.240
 he's

00:38:26.240 --> 00:38:26.560
 helping

00:38:26.560 --> 00:38:27.360
 he's

00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:27.600
 working

00:38:27.600 --> 00:38:27.800
 with

00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:28.020
 all

00:38:28.020 --> 00:38:28.160
 the

00:38:28.160 --> 00:38:28.380
 things

00:38:28.380 --> 00:38:28.520
 here

00:38:28.520 --> 00:38:28.780
 all

00:38:28.780 --> 00:38:28.900
 of

00:38:28.900 --> 00:38:29.040
 our

00:38:29.040 --> 00:38:29.480
 refugees

00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:29.760
 and

00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:29.900
 all

00:38:29.900 --> 00:38:30.160
 that

00:38:30.160 --> 00:38:30.380
 so

00:38:30.380 --> 00:38:30.660
 that's

00:38:30.660 --> 00:38:31.060
 more

00:38:31.060 --> 00:38:31.220
 than

00:38:31.220 --> 00:38:31.340
 a

00:38:31.340 --> 00:38:31.500
 full

00:38:31.500 --> 00:38:31.720
 time

00:38:31.720 --> 00:38:32.060
 job

00:38:32.060 --> 00:38:32.900
 we

00:38:32.900 --> 00:38:33.140
 have

00:38:33.140 --> 00:38:33.460
 about

00:38:33.460 --> 00:38:34.100
 40

00:38:34.100 --> 00:38:34.760
 or

00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:35.080
 so

00:38:35.080 --> 00:38:35.820
 ministries

00:38:35.820 --> 00:38:36.060
 that

00:38:36.060 --> 00:38:36.260
 we're

00:38:36.260 --> 00:38:36.440
 a

00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:36.640
 part

00:38:36.640 --> 00:38:36.840
 of

00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:37.320
 locally

00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:37.840
 and

00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:37.980
 so

00:38:37.980 --> 00:38:38.140
 we

00:38:38.140 --> 00:38:38.300
 have

00:38:38.300 --> 00:38:38.440
 a

00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:38.820
 pastor

00:38:38.820 --> 00:38:39.060
 who

00:38:39.060 --> 00:38:39.660
 oversees

00:38:39.660 --> 00:38:39.920
 all

00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:40.060
 of

00:38:40.060 --> 00:38:40.240
 that

00:38:40.240 --> 00:38:40.400
 I

00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:40.500
 mean

00:38:40.500 --> 00:38:40.700
 one

00:38:40.700 --> 00:38:40.860
 we

00:38:40.860 --> 00:38:41.140
 care

00:38:41.140 --> 00:38:41.340
 for

00:38:41.340 --> 00:38:41.620
 other

00:38:41.620 --> 00:38:41.940
 local

00:38:41.940 --> 00:38:42.340
 ministry

00:38:42.340 --> 00:38:42.740
 leaders

00:38:42.740 --> 00:38:43.340
 non-profit

00:38:43.340 --> 00:38:43.680
 leaders

00:38:43.680 --> 00:38:43.900
 so

00:38:43.900 --> 00:38:44.120
 this

00:38:44.120 --> 00:38:44.460
 pastor

00:38:44.460 --> 00:38:44.960
 cares

00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:45.160
 for

00:38:45.160 --> 00:38:45.440
 them

00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:46.040
 sees

00:38:46.040 --> 00:38:46.220
 how

00:38:46.220 --> 00:38:46.420
 our

00:38:46.420 --> 00:38:46.700
 church

00:38:46.700 --> 00:38:46.900
 can

00:38:46.900 --> 00:38:47.260
 support

00:38:47.260 --> 00:38:47.520
 them

00:38:47.520 --> 00:38:47.920
 and

00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:48.060
 then

00:38:48.060 --> 00:38:48.200
 our

00:38:48.200 --> 00:38:48.440
 whole

00:38:48.440 --> 00:38:48.680
 goal

00:38:48.680 --> 00:38:48.860
 is

00:38:48.860 --> 00:38:48.980
 to

00:38:48.980 --> 00:38:49.120
 get

00:38:49.120 --> 00:38:49.240
 our

00:38:49.240 --> 00:38:49.620
 people

00:38:49.620 --> 00:38:50.500
 connected

00:38:50.500 --> 00:38:50.800
 into

00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:51.140
 these

00:38:51.140 --> 00:38:51.440
 different

00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:51.940
 elements

00:38:51.940 --> 00:38:52.140
 of

00:38:52.140 --> 00:38:52.480
 ministry

00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:52.860
 happening

00:38:52.860 --> 00:38:53.020
 in

00:38:53.020 --> 00:38:53.140
 our

00:38:53.140 --> 00:38:53.400
 city

00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:53.600
 so

00:38:53.600 --> 00:38:53.680
 we

00:38:53.680 --> 00:38:53.780
 have

00:38:53.780 --> 00:38:53.900
 a

00:38:53.900 --> 00:38:54.080
 full

00:38:54.080 --> 00:38:54.360
 time

00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:54.920
 person

00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:55.120
 for

00:38:55.120 --> 00:38:55.340
 that

00:38:55.340 --> 00:38:55.640
 right

00:38:55.640 --> 00:38:56.040
 I

00:38:56.040 --> 00:38:56.120
 mean

00:38:56.120 --> 00:38:56.220
 we

00:38:56.220 --> 00:38:56.360
 have

00:38:56.360 --> 00:38:56.660
 a

00:38:56.660 --> 00:38:57.340
 student

00:38:57.340 --> 00:38:57.740
 pastor

00:38:57.740 --> 00:38:57.980
 for

00:38:57.980 --> 00:38:58.280
 hundreds

00:38:58.280 --> 00:38:58.580
 of

00:38:58.580 --> 00:38:59.000
 students

00:38:59.000 --> 00:38:59.180
 and

00:38:59.180 --> 00:38:59.320
 their

00:38:59.320 --> 00:38:59.800
 parents

00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:00.060
 and

00:39:00.060 --> 00:39:00.820
 supporting

00:39:00.820 --> 00:39:01.160
 them

00:39:01.160 --> 00:39:01.340
 and

00:39:01.340 --> 00:39:01.700
 supporting

00:39:01.700 --> 00:39:02.020
 house

00:39:02.020 --> 00:39:02.240
 church

00:39:02.240 --> 00:39:02.640
 pastors

00:39:02.640 --> 00:39:02.880
 as

00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:03.080
 they're

00:39:03.080 --> 00:39:03.340
 caring

00:39:03.340 --> 00:39:03.520
 for

00:39:03.520 --> 00:39:03.700
 these

00:39:03.700 --> 00:39:04.060
 families

00:39:04.060 --> 00:39:04.320
 so

00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:04.620
 yeah

00:39:04.620 --> 00:39:05.040
 we

00:39:05.040 --> 00:39:05.240
 have

00:39:05.240 --> 00:39:05.420
 that

00:39:05.420 --> 00:39:05.520
 I

00:39:05.520 --> 00:39:05.620
 mean

00:39:05.620 --> 00:39:05.820
 I'm

00:39:05.820 --> 00:39:06.100
 full

00:39:06.100 --> 00:39:06.380
 time

00:39:06.380 --> 00:39:06.660
 here

00:39:06.660 --> 00:39:07.700
 we

00:39:07.700 --> 00:39:07.860
 have

00:39:07.860 --> 00:39:08.140
 a

00:39:08.140 --> 00:39:08.540
 person

00:39:08.540 --> 00:39:08.720
 who

00:39:08.720 --> 00:39:09.100
 oversees

00:39:09.100 --> 00:39:09.260
 all

00:39:09.260 --> 00:39:09.380
 of

00:39:09.380 --> 00:39:09.500
 our

00:39:09.500 --> 00:39:10.040
 finances

00:39:10.040 --> 00:39:10.840
 we

00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:11.020
 want

00:39:11.020 --> 00:39:11.100
 to

00:39:11.100 --> 00:39:11.260
 make

00:39:11.260 --> 00:39:11.480
 sure

00:39:11.480 --> 00:39:11.800
 that

00:39:11.800 --> 00:39:12.520
 we

00:39:12.520 --> 00:39:12.920
 are

00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:13.720
 really

00:39:13.720 --> 00:39:14.440
 operating

00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:14.640
 with

00:39:14.640 --> 00:39:15.100
 integrity

00:39:15.100 --> 00:39:15.500
 and

00:39:15.500 --> 00:39:16.280
 so

00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:16.920
 yeah

00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:17.320
 so

00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:17.620
 we

00:39:17.620 --> 00:39:17.820
 have

00:39:17.820 --> 00:39:17.940
 a

00:39:17.940 --> 00:39:18.120
 full

00:39:18.120 --> 00:39:18.300
 time

00:39:18.300 --> 00:39:18.680
 staff

00:39:18.680 --> 00:39:18.840
 but

00:39:18.840 --> 00:39:19.120
 it's

00:39:19.120 --> 00:39:19.420
 about

00:39:19.420 --> 00:39:19.780
 again

00:39:19.780 --> 00:39:20.020
 about

00:39:20.020 --> 00:39:20.180
 a

00:39:20.180 --> 00:39:20.440
 fourth

00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:20.580
 or

00:39:20.580 --> 00:39:20.860
 fifth

00:39:27.980 --> 00:39:28.180
 stats

00:39:28.180 --> 00:39:28.660
 recently

00:39:28.660 --> 00:39:29.200
 that

00:39:29.200 --> 00:39:31.100
 49%

00:39:31.100 --> 00:39:31.860
 of

00:39:31.860 --> 00:39:32.000
 the

00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:32.280
 average

00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:32.580
 church

00:39:32.580 --> 00:39:33.020
 budget

00:39:33.020 --> 00:39:33.780
 goes

00:39:33.780 --> 00:39:34.120
 towards

00:39:34.120 --> 00:39:34.700
 building

00:39:34.700 --> 00:39:36.580
 22%

00:39:36.580 --> 00:39:36.620
 to

00:39:36.620 --> 00:39:37.360
 23%

00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:37.560
 of

00:39:37.560 --> 00:39:37.700
 the

00:39:37.700 --> 00:39:37.940
 average

00:39:37.940 --> 00:39:38.200
 church

00:39:38.200 --> 00:39:38.500
 budget

00:39:38.500 --> 00:39:38.760
 goes

00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:38.920
 to

00:39:38.920 --> 00:39:39.260
 payroll

00:39:39.260 --> 00:39:40.240
 and

00:39:40.240 --> 00:39:40.780
 what

00:39:40.780 --> 00:39:41.180
 you're

00:39:41.180 --> 00:39:41.620
 describing

00:39:41.620 --> 00:39:43.220
 all

00:39:43.220 --> 00:39:43.520
 that's

00:39:43.520 --> 00:39:43.860
 gone

00:39:43.860 --> 00:39:45.020
 is

00:39:45.020 --> 00:39:45.460
 giving

00:39:45.460 --> 00:39:47.740
 still

00:39:47.740 --> 00:39:48.180
 at

00:39:48.180 --> 00:39:48.400
 the

00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:48.840
 normal

00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:49.820
 10%

00:39:49.820 --> 00:39:50.120
 I don't

00:39:50.120 --> 00:39:50.340
 want to

00:39:50.340 --> 00:39:50.540
 get

00:39:50.540 --> 00:39:51.200
 weird

00:39:51.200 --> 00:39:51.580
 here

00:39:51.580 --> 00:39:51.900
 but

00:39:51.900 --> 00:39:52.500
 where

00:39:52.500 --> 00:39:53.000
 does

00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:53.220
 the

00:39:53.220 --> 00:39:53.480
 money

00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:54.200
 go

00:39:54.200 --> 00:39:54.740
 I

00:39:54.740 --> 00:39:55.180
 heard

00:39:55.180 --> 00:39:55.580
 the

00:39:55.580 --> 00:39:55.900
 story

00:39:55.900 --> 00:39:56.260
 of

00:39:56.260 --> 00:39:57.360
 paying

00:39:57.360 --> 00:39:57.660
 paying

00:39:57.660 --> 00:39:57.840
 the

00:39:57.840 --> 00:39:58.160
 mortgage

00:39:58.160 --> 00:39:58.620
 buying

00:39:58.620 --> 00:39:59.060
 cars

00:39:59.060 --> 00:39:59.320
 things

00:39:59.320 --> 00:39:59.540
 like

00:39:59.540 --> 00:39:59.880
 that

00:39:59.880 --> 00:40:00.440
 is

00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:00.820
 the

00:40:00.820 --> 00:40:01.560
 focus

00:40:01.560 --> 00:40:02.760
 primarily

00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:03.700
 within

00:40:03.700 --> 00:40:04.200
 that

00:40:04.200 --> 00:40:05.340
 within

00:40:05.340 --> 00:40:05.600
 the

00:40:05.600 --> 00:40:05.880
 house

00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:06.140
 church

00:40:06.140 --> 00:40:06.580
 supporting

00:40:06.580 --> 00:40:06.800
 one

00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:07.140
 another

00:40:07.140 --> 00:40:07.700
 are

00:40:07.700 --> 00:40:07.860
 there

00:40:07.860 --> 00:40:08.260
 other

00:40:08.260 --> 00:40:09.060
 missional

00:40:09.060 --> 00:40:09.500
 causes

00:40:09.500 --> 00:40:09.740
 in

00:40:09.740 --> 00:40:10.120
 neighborhoods

00:40:10.120 --> 00:40:10.420
 that

00:40:10.420 --> 00:40:10.520
 you

00:40:10.520 --> 00:40:10.940
 invest

00:40:10.940 --> 00:40:11.180
 in

00:40:11.180 --> 00:40:11.480
 like

00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:12.000
 what

00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:12.280
 what

00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:12.420
 is

00:40:12.420 --> 00:40:12.640
 the

00:40:12.640 --> 00:40:13.160
 tithing

00:40:13.160 --> 00:40:13.620
 structure

00:40:13.620 --> 00:40:13.800
 and

00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:14.100
 scenario

00:40:14.100 --> 00:40:14.340
 look

00:40:14.340 --> 00:40:14.580
 like

00:40:14.580 --> 00:40:14.800
 at

00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:14.920
 the

00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:15.240
 average

00:40:15.240 --> 00:40:15.700
 house

00:40:15.700 --> 00:40:15.980
 church

00:40:15.980 --> 00:40:16.500
 well

00:40:16.500 --> 00:40:16.740
 it's

00:40:16.740 --> 00:40:16.840
 a

00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:17.060
 both

00:40:17.060 --> 00:40:17.360
 and

00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:17.520
 I

00:40:17.520 --> 00:40:17.640
 mean

00:40:17.640 --> 00:40:17.940
 people

00:40:17.940 --> 00:40:18.180
 will

00:40:18.180 --> 00:40:18.500
 give

00:40:18.500 --> 00:40:18.760
 to

00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:19.100
 the

00:40:19.100 --> 00:40:19.800
 to

00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:19.940
 the

00:40:19.940 --> 00:40:20.220
 body

00:40:20.220 --> 00:40:20.840
 corporately

00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:21.640
 because

00:40:21.640 --> 00:40:22.120
 together

00:40:22.120 --> 00:40:22.820
 as a

00:40:22.820 --> 00:40:23.120
 corporate

00:40:23.120 --> 00:40:23.560
 body

00:40:23.560 --> 00:40:23.820
 a

00:40:23.820 --> 00:40:24.260
 collection

00:40:24.260 --> 00:40:24.440
 of

00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:24.680
 house

00:40:24.680 --> 00:40:24.980
 churches

00:40:24.980 --> 00:40:25.260
 we

00:40:25.260 --> 00:40:25.460
 have

00:40:25.460 --> 00:40:25.920
 ministries

00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:26.080
 that

00:40:26.080 --> 00:40:26.220
 we

00:40:26.220 --> 00:40:26.660
 support

00:40:26.660 --> 00:40:27.220
 I

00:40:27.220 --> 00:40:27.360
 mean

00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:27.580
 we

00:40:27.580 --> 00:40:28.000
 have

00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:29.060
 through

00:40:29.060 --> 00:40:29.520
 if

00:40:29.520 --> 00:40:29.740
 people

00:40:29.740 --> 00:40:29.980
 give

00:40:29.980 --> 00:40:30.140
 to

00:40:30.140 --> 00:40:30.420
 church

00:40:30.420 --> 00:40:30.900
 project

00:40:30.900 --> 00:40:32.520
 we

00:40:32.520 --> 00:40:32.880
 will

00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:33.220
 support

00:40:33.220 --> 00:40:33.420
 our

00:40:33.420 --> 00:40:33.780
 team

00:40:33.780 --> 00:40:34.180
 it's

00:40:34.180 --> 00:40:34.540
 small

00:40:34.540 --> 00:40:34.800
 but

00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:35.000
 they

00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:35.200
 still

00:40:35.200 --> 00:40:35.480
 it's

00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:37.000
 small

00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:37.260
 on the

00:40:37.260 --> 00:40:37.680
 ratio

00:40:37.680 --> 00:40:38.380
 but

00:40:38.380 --> 00:40:38.720
 still

00:40:38.720 --> 00:40:38.920
 need

00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:39.400
 support

00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:40.500
 we

00:40:40.500 --> 00:40:40.740
 have

00:40:40.740 --> 00:40:40.880
 a

00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:41.260
 building

00:40:41.260 --> 00:40:41.820
 it's

00:40:41.820 --> 00:40:42.020
 used

00:40:42.020 --> 00:40:42.200
 for

00:40:42.200 --> 00:40:42.560
 ministries

00:40:42.560 --> 00:40:42.720
 in

00:40:42.720 --> 00:40:42.860
 the

00:40:42.860 --> 00:40:43.120
 city

00:40:43.120 --> 00:40:43.440
 and

00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:43.720
 we

00:40:43.720 --> 00:40:44.540
 we're

00:40:44.540 --> 00:40:45.000
 very

00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:45.320
 close

00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:45.500
 to

00:40:45.500 --> 00:40:45.860
 mortgage

00:40:45.860 --> 00:40:46.300
 neutral

00:40:46.300 --> 00:40:46.780
 actually

00:40:46.780 --> 00:40:47.220
 I

00:40:47.220 --> 00:40:47.400
 could

00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:47.680
 get

00:40:47.680 --> 00:40:47.840
 into

00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:48.060
 that

00:40:48.060 --> 00:40:48.200
 at

00:40:48.200 --> 00:40:48.360
 some

00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:48.540
 point

00:40:48.540 --> 00:40:48.660
 if

00:40:48.660 --> 00:40:48.780
 you

00:40:48.780 --> 00:40:49.060
 want

00:40:49.060 --> 00:40:49.840
 but

00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:50.620
 we

00:40:50.620 --> 00:40:50.860
 still

00:40:50.860 --> 00:40:50.980
 have

00:40:50.980 --> 00:40:51.080
 to

00:40:51.080 --> 00:40:51.220
 pay

00:40:51.220 --> 00:40:51.380
 our

00:40:51.380 --> 00:40:51.700
 bills

00:40:51.700 --> 00:40:51.920
 pay

00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:52.060
 the

00:40:52.060 --> 00:40:52.420
 lights

00:40:52.420 --> 00:40:53.000
 pay

00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:53.440
 wifi

00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:54.160
 which

00:40:54.160 --> 00:40:54.280
 we

00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:54.380
 were

00:40:54.380 --> 00:40:54.520
 having

00:40:54.520 --> 00:40:54.860
 problems

00:40:54.860 --> 00:40:55.000
 with

00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:55.320
 earlier

00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:55.640
 so

00:40:55.640 --> 00:40:56.340
 we

00:40:56.340 --> 00:40:56.440
 got

00:40:56.440 --> 00:40:56.540
 to

00:40:56.540 --> 00:40:56.700
 pay

00:40:56.700 --> 00:40:56.940
 those

00:40:56.940 --> 00:40:57.240
 things

00:40:57.240 --> 00:40:57.760
 but

00:40:57.760 --> 00:40:58.080
 then

00:40:58.080 --> 00:40:58.880
 the

00:40:58.880 --> 00:40:59.160
 rest

00:40:59.160 --> 00:40:59.320
 of

00:40:59.320 --> 00:40:59.460
 our

00:40:59.460 --> 00:40:59.700
 money

00:40:59.700 --> 00:41:00.100
 goes

00:41:00.100 --> 00:41:00.480
 to

00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:01.200
 supporting

00:41:01.200 --> 00:41:01.720
 ministries

00:41:01.720 --> 00:41:02.000
 in our

00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:02.200
 city

00:41:02.200 --> 00:41:02.460
 so

00:41:02.460 --> 00:41:03.160
 collectively

00:41:03.160 --> 00:41:04.000
 when

00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:04.240
 people

00:41:04.240 --> 00:41:04.600
 give

00:41:04.600 --> 00:41:04.840
 here

00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:05.020
 they

00:41:05.020 --> 00:41:05.220
 know

00:41:05.220 --> 00:41:05.380
 I'm

00:41:05.380 --> 00:41:05.700
 giving

00:41:05.700 --> 00:41:07.060
 it's

00:41:07.060 --> 00:41:07.160
 going

00:41:07.160 --> 00:41:07.260
 to

00:41:07.260 --> 00:41:07.520
 support

00:41:07.520 --> 00:41:07.680
 the

00:41:07.680 --> 00:41:07.960
 building

00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:08.240
 that

00:41:08.240 --> 00:41:08.540
 also

00:41:08.540 --> 00:41:08.740
 is

00:41:08.740 --> 00:41:08.960
 used

00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:09.100
 for

00:41:09.100 --> 00:41:09.260
 the

00:41:09.260 --> 00:41:09.540
 city

00:41:09.540 --> 00:41:10.660
 I

00:41:10.660 --> 00:41:10.900
 say

00:41:10.900 --> 00:41:11.080
 we

00:41:11.080 --> 00:41:11.440
 borrow

00:41:11.440 --> 00:41:11.660
 a

00:41:11.660 --> 00:41:11.860
 building

00:41:11.860 --> 00:41:12.080
 on

00:41:12.080 --> 00:41:12.580
 Sundays

00:41:12.580 --> 00:41:13.540
 to

00:41:19.060 --> 00:41:19.500
 and

00:41:19.500 --> 00:41:19.620
 we

00:41:19.620 --> 00:41:20.000
 designed

00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:20.140
 it

00:41:20.140 --> 00:41:20.300
 that

00:41:20.300 --> 00:41:20.540
 way

00:41:20.540 --> 00:41:21.020
 so

00:41:21.020 --> 00:41:21.300
 yeah

00:41:21.300 --> 00:41:21.680
 but

00:41:21.680 --> 00:41:21.860
 then

00:41:21.860 --> 00:41:21.980
 the

00:41:21.980 --> 00:41:22.200
 rest

00:41:22.200 --> 00:41:22.340
 of

00:41:22.340 --> 00:41:22.480
 it

00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:22.700
 we

00:41:22.700 --> 00:41:22.960
 have

00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:23.220
 given

00:41:23.220 --> 00:41:24.800
 millions

00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:25.020
 of

00:41:25.020 --> 00:41:25.800
 dollars

00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:26.180
 away

00:41:26.180 --> 00:41:26.440
 to

00:41:26.440 --> 00:41:26.760
 church

00:41:26.760 --> 00:41:27.220
 planting

00:41:27.220 --> 00:41:28.240
 to

00:41:28.240 --> 00:41:29.020
 ministry

00:41:29.020 --> 00:41:29.720
 partnerships

00:41:29.720 --> 00:41:30.440
 I

00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:30.580
 mean

00:41:30.580 --> 00:41:32.120
 I'm

00:41:32.120 --> 00:41:32.660
 not

00:41:32.660 --> 00:41:33.280
 in

00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:33.620
 charge

00:41:33.620 --> 00:41:33.840
 of

00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:34.000
 but

00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:34.700
 for

00:41:34.700 --> 00:41:35.200
 accountability

00:41:35.200 --> 00:41:35.560
 sake

00:41:35.560 --> 00:41:35.680
 we

00:41:35.680 --> 00:41:35.800
 have

00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:36.120
 several

00:41:36.120 --> 00:41:36.440
 people

00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:36.600
 who

00:41:36.600 --> 00:41:36.760
 will

00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:37.020
 see

00:41:37.020 --> 00:41:37.260
 where

00:41:37.260 --> 00:41:37.500
 all

00:41:37.500 --> 00:41:37.640
 of

00:41:37.640 --> 00:41:39.400
 our

00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:40.940
 wire

00:41:40.940 --> 00:41:41.460
 transfers

00:41:41.460 --> 00:41:41.880
 go

00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:42.080
 and

00:41:42.080 --> 00:41:42.300
 that's

00:41:42.300 --> 00:41:42.700
 generally

00:41:42.700 --> 00:41:42.940
 to

00:41:42.940 --> 00:41:43.120
 our

00:41:43.120 --> 00:41:43.680
 international

00:41:43.680 --> 00:41:44.040
 stuff

00:41:44.040 --> 00:41:44.200
 so

00:41:44.200 --> 00:41:44.480
 yesterday

00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:44.660
 I

00:41:44.660 --> 00:41:44.780
 had

00:41:44.780 --> 00:41:45.400
 five

00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:45.720
 wire

00:41:45.720 --> 00:41:46.100
 transfers

00:41:46.100 --> 00:41:46.360
 that

00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:46.560
 come

00:41:46.560 --> 00:41:46.740
 through

00:41:46.740 --> 00:41:46.880
 and

00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:47.000
 I

00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:47.260
 see

00:41:47.260 --> 00:41:47.520
 where

00:41:47.520 --> 00:41:47.700
 all

00:41:47.700 --> 00:41:47.820
 of

00:41:47.820 --> 00:41:48.020
 our

00:41:48.020 --> 00:41:48.720
 giving

00:41:48.720 --> 00:41:48.920
 is

00:41:48.920 --> 00:41:49.180
 going

00:41:49.180 --> 00:41:49.500
 right

00:41:49.500 --> 00:41:49.660
 and

00:41:49.660 --> 00:41:49.760
 I

00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:50.180
 I'm

00:41:50.180 --> 00:41:50.280
 on

00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:50.980
 our

00:41:50.980 --> 00:41:51.300
 board

00:41:51.300 --> 00:41:51.440
 we

00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:51.540
 have

00:41:51.540 --> 00:41:51.660
 a

00:41:51.660 --> 00:41:51.840
 board

00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:52.020
 that

00:41:52.020 --> 00:41:52.260
 handles

00:41:52.260 --> 00:41:52.460
 all

00:41:52.460 --> 00:41:52.560
 that

00:41:52.560 --> 00:41:52.700
 I'm

00:41:52.700 --> 00:41:52.840
 one

00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:53.200
 person

00:41:53.200 --> 00:41:53.320
 on

00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:53.440
 the

00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:53.700
 board

00:41:53.700 --> 00:41:53.900
 and

00:41:53.900 --> 00:41:54.360
 I

00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:54.660
 see

00:41:54.660 --> 00:41:55.360
 all

00:41:55.360 --> 00:41:55.560
 that

00:41:55.560 --> 00:41:55.740
 yeah

00:41:55.740 --> 00:41:55.860
 I

00:41:55.860 --> 00:41:55.960
 mean

00:41:55.960 --> 00:41:56.100
 we're

00:41:56.100 --> 00:41:56.380
 just

00:41:56.380 --> 00:41:57.140
 giving

00:41:57.140 --> 00:41:57.520
 you know

00:41:57.520 --> 00:41:57.900
 so

00:41:57.900 --> 00:41:58.160
 our

00:41:58.160 --> 00:41:59.300
 people

00:41:59.300 --> 00:41:59.500
 in

00:41:59.500 --> 00:41:59.840
 Haiti

00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:01.020
 got

00:42:01.020 --> 00:42:01.520
 fed

00:42:01.520 --> 00:42:02.040
 yesterday

00:42:02.040 --> 00:42:03.160
 you know

00:42:03.160 --> 00:42:03.560
 they're

00:42:03.560 --> 00:42:04.000
 struggling

00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:04.480
 so

00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:04.940
 collectively

00:42:04.940 --> 00:42:05.400
 people

00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:05.660
 give

00:42:05.660 --> 00:42:05.780
 to

00:42:05.780 --> 00:42:05.980
 church

00:42:05.980 --> 00:42:06.340
 project

00:42:06.340 --> 00:42:06.640
 and

00:42:06.640 --> 00:42:06.780
 we

00:42:06.780 --> 00:42:06.980
 give

00:42:06.980 --> 00:42:07.100
 to

00:42:07.100 --> 00:42:07.320
 these

00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:07.640
 things

00:42:07.640 --> 00:42:08.180
 we

00:42:08.180 --> 00:42:08.300
 have

00:42:08.300 --> 00:42:08.680
 local

00:42:08.680 --> 00:42:08.880
 and

00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:09.140
 global

00:42:09.140 --> 00:42:09.640
 ministries

00:42:09.640 --> 00:42:09.800
 that

00:42:17.260 --> 00:42:19.700
 but

00:42:19.700 --> 00:42:20.460
 benevolence

00:42:20.460 --> 00:42:20.620
 is

00:42:20.620 --> 00:42:20.940
 happening

00:42:20.940 --> 00:42:21.120
 in

00:42:21.120 --> 00:42:21.360
 house

00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:21.640
 church

00:42:21.640 --> 00:42:21.880
 at

00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:22.180
 rates

00:42:22.180 --> 00:42:22.340
 that

00:42:22.340 --> 00:42:22.500
 we

00:42:22.500 --> 00:42:22.680
 have

00:42:22.680 --> 00:42:23.060
 no

00:42:23.060 --> 00:42:23.260
 way

00:42:23.260 --> 00:42:23.380
 of

00:42:23.380 --> 00:42:23.600
 knowing

00:42:23.600 --> 00:42:23.920
 about

00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:24.380
 I

00:42:24.380 --> 00:42:24.560
 will

00:42:24.560 --> 00:42:24.980
 say

00:42:24.980 --> 00:42:25.820
 some

00:42:25.820 --> 00:42:27.160
 reasons

00:42:27.160 --> 00:42:27.400
 why

00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:27.620
 people

00:42:27.620 --> 00:42:27.860
 wouldn't

00:42:27.860 --> 00:42:28.000
 want

00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:28.100
 to

00:42:28.100 --> 00:42:28.260
 do

00:42:28.260 --> 00:42:28.540
 this

00:42:28.540 --> 00:42:28.680
 is

00:42:28.680 --> 00:42:29.720
 it's

00:42:29.720 --> 00:42:29.880
 going to

00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:30.020
 make

00:42:30.020 --> 00:42:30.180
 you

00:42:30.180 --> 00:42:30.580
 vulnerable

00:42:30.580 --> 00:42:31.260
 financially

00:42:31.260 --> 00:42:32.160
 because

00:42:32.160 --> 00:42:33.200
 if

00:42:33.200 --> 00:42:33.440
 there's

00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:33.780
 a need

00:42:33.780 --> 00:42:34.000
 in a

00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:34.220
 house

00:42:34.220 --> 00:42:34.560
 church

00:42:34.560 --> 00:42:35.960
 and

00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:36.220
 people

00:42:36.220 --> 00:42:36.340
 are

00:42:36.340 --> 00:42:36.500
 like

00:42:36.500 --> 00:42:36.680
 we

00:42:36.680 --> 00:42:36.840
 got

00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:36.940
 to

00:42:36.940 --> 00:42:37.080
 get

00:42:37.080 --> 00:42:37.240
 these

00:42:37.240 --> 00:42:37.540
 people

00:42:37.540 --> 00:42:37.680
 a

00:42:37.680 --> 00:42:37.980
 car

00:42:37.980 --> 00:42:38.180
 we

00:42:38.180 --> 00:42:38.300
 got

00:42:38.300 --> 00:42:38.380
 to

00:42:38.380 --> 00:42:38.500
 pay

00:42:38.500 --> 00:42:38.680
 their

00:42:38.680 --> 00:42:39.180
 mortgage

00:42:39.180 --> 00:42:40.500
 not

00:42:40.500 --> 00:42:40.880
 everybody

00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:41.080
 is

00:42:41.080 --> 00:42:41.220
 able

00:42:41.220 --> 00:42:41.360
 to

00:42:41.360 --> 00:42:41.520
 do

00:42:41.520 --> 00:42:41.920
 both

00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:42.180
 and

00:42:42.180 --> 00:42:42.420
 here

00:42:42.420 --> 00:42:42.880
 and

00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:43.060
 so

00:42:43.060 --> 00:42:43.280
 we

00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:43.600
 know

00:42:43.600 --> 00:42:43.860
 that

00:42:43.860 --> 00:42:44.160
 a lot

00:42:44.160 --> 00:42:44.280
 of

00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:44.560
 times

00:42:44.560 --> 00:42:44.840
 money

00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:44.960
 is

00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:45.140
 being

00:42:45.140 --> 00:42:45.480
 given

00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:45.940
 to

00:42:45.940 --> 00:42:46.220
 that

00:42:46.220 --> 00:42:46.880
 immediate

00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:47.380
 need

00:42:47.380 --> 00:42:48.080
 and

00:42:48.080 --> 00:42:48.260
 that

00:42:48.260 --> 00:42:48.520
 week

00:42:48.520 --> 00:42:48.700
 they're

00:42:48.700 --> 00:42:48.880
 not

00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:49.000
 going

00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:49.040
 to

00:42:49.040 --> 00:42:49.180
 be

00:42:49.180 --> 00:42:49.420
 giving

00:42:49.420 --> 00:42:49.640
 to

00:42:49.640 --> 00:42:49.800
 us

00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:50.300
 corporately

00:42:50.300 --> 00:42:50.920
 so

00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:51.140
 we

00:42:51.140 --> 00:42:51.360
 better

00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:51.580
 be

00:42:51.580 --> 00:42:51.880
 living

00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:52.100
 within

00:42:52.100 --> 00:42:52.280
 our

00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:52.640
 means

00:42:52.640 --> 00:42:52.840
 and

00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:53.060
 living

00:42:53.060 --> 00:42:53.660
 simply

00:42:53.660 --> 00:42:54.280
 we

00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:54.560
 have

00:42:54.560 --> 00:42:54.700
 a

00:42:54.700 --> 00:42:54.960
 saying

00:42:54.960 --> 00:42:55.300
 here

00:42:55.300 --> 00:42:55.820
 I

00:42:55.820 --> 00:42:56.140
 coined

00:42:56.140 --> 00:42:56.380
 it

00:42:56.380 --> 00:42:57.080
 as

00:42:57.080 --> 00:42:57.220
 we

00:42:57.220 --> 00:42:57.460
 began

00:42:57.460 --> 00:42:57.620
 our

00:42:57.620 --> 00:42:57.940
 church

00:42:57.940 --> 00:42:58.080
 and

00:42:58.080 --> 00:42:58.200
 I

00:42:58.200 --> 00:42:58.360
 just

00:42:58.360 --> 00:42:58.580
 said

00:42:58.580 --> 00:42:59.460
 simplicity

00:42:59.460 --> 00:42:59.840
 for

00:42:59.840 --> 00:43:00.020
 the

00:43:00.020 --> 00:43:00.220
 sake

00:43:00.220 --> 00:43:00.360
 of

00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:00.920
 generosity

00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:02.120
 so

00:43:02.120 --> 00:43:02.280
 we

00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:02.360
 are

00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:02.640
 living

00:43:02.640 --> 00:43:02.880
 with

00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:03.440
 simplicity

00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:04.380
 for

00:43:04.380 --> 00:43:04.560
 the

00:43:04.560 --> 00:43:04.740
 sake

00:43:04.740 --> 00:43:04.880
 of

00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:05.320
 generosity

00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:05.680
 I

00:43:05.680 --> 00:43:05.840
 think

00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:06.020
 it's

00:43:06.020 --> 00:43:06.180
 a

00:43:06.180 --> 00:43:06.360
 good

00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:06.820
 personal

00:43:06.820 --> 00:43:07.380
 practice

00:43:07.380 --> 00:43:08.120
 you

00:43:08.120 --> 00:43:08.340
 know

00:43:08.340 --> 00:43:08.840
 whenever

00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:09.760
 we

00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:09.960
 make

00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:10.380
 financial

00:43:10.380 --> 00:43:10.800
 decisions

00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:11.080
 of a

00:43:11.080 --> 00:43:11.200
 new

00:43:11.200 --> 00:43:11.600
 house

00:43:11.600 --> 00:43:11.900
 or a

00:43:11.900 --> 00:43:12.220
 car

00:43:12.220 --> 00:43:12.400
 or

00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:12.700
 whatever

00:43:12.700 --> 00:43:13.040
 we're

00:43:13.040 --> 00:43:13.240
 like

00:43:13.240 --> 00:43:13.900
 is

00:43:13.900 --> 00:43:14.140
 this

00:43:14.140 --> 00:43:14.300
 going

00:43:14.300 --> 00:43:14.380
 to

00:43:14.380 --> 00:43:14.620
 allow

00:43:14.620 --> 00:43:14.820
 us

00:43:14.820 --> 00:43:14.980
 to

00:43:14.980 --> 00:43:15.320
 continue

00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:15.500
 to

00:43:15.500 --> 00:43:15.660
 be

00:43:15.660 --> 00:43:15.940
 very

00:43:15.940 --> 00:43:16.280
 generous

00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:17.100
 and

00:43:17.100 --> 00:43:17.800
 we

00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:18.380
 make

00:43:18.380 --> 00:43:18.580
 those

00:43:18.580 --> 00:43:18.880
 same

00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:19.440
 decisions

00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:20.580
 for

00:43:20.580 --> 00:43:21.180
 our

00:43:21.180 --> 00:43:21.780
 church

00:43:21.780 --> 00:43:22.360
 corporately

00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:22.900
 that's

00:43:22.900 --> 00:43:23.100
 great

00:43:23.100 --> 00:43:23.680
 simplicity

00:43:23.680 --> 00:43:24.040
 for

00:43:24.040 --> 00:43:24.240
 the

00:43:24.240 --> 00:43:24.420
 sake

00:43:24.420 --> 00:43:24.560
 of

00:43:24.560 --> 00:43:25.080
 generosity

00:43:25.080 --> 00:43:25.740
 very

00:43:25.740 --> 00:43:26.300
 cool

00:43:26.300 --> 00:43:26.500
 with

00:43:26.500 --> 00:43:26.740
 that

00:43:26.740 --> 00:43:27.500
 so

00:43:27.500 --> 00:43:28.100
 you've

00:43:28.100 --> 00:43:28.340
 got

00:43:28.340 --> 00:43:28.620
 all

00:43:32.120 --> 00:43:33.940
 missionaries

00:43:33.940 --> 00:43:34.500
 pastors

00:43:34.500 --> 00:43:35.640
 people

00:43:35.640 --> 00:43:36.420
 running

00:43:36.420 --> 00:43:36.680
 around

00:43:36.680 --> 00:43:37.260
 evangelists

00:43:37.260 --> 00:43:37.500
 used

00:43:37.500 --> 00:43:37.900
 that

00:43:37.900 --> 00:43:38.240
 word

00:43:38.240 --> 00:43:38.860
 earlier

00:43:38.860 --> 00:43:40.440
 was

00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:40.580
 it

00:43:40.580 --> 00:43:40.940
 difficult

00:43:40.940 --> 00:43:41.300
 moving

00:43:41.300 --> 00:43:41.640
 from

00:43:41.640 --> 00:43:41.800
 an

00:43:41.800 --> 00:43:42.340
 established

00:43:42.340 --> 00:43:43.360
 model

00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:44.220
 church

00:43:44.220 --> 00:43:44.620
 model

00:43:44.620 --> 00:43:45.640
 to

00:43:45.640 --> 00:43:46.740
 utilizing

00:43:46.740 --> 00:43:47.160
 now

00:43:47.160 --> 00:43:47.640
 people

00:43:47.640 --> 00:43:47.820
 that

00:43:47.820 --> 00:43:48.020
 have

00:43:48.020 --> 00:43:48.240
 full

00:43:48.240 --> 00:43:48.460
 time

00:43:48.460 --> 00:43:49.020
 jobs

00:43:49.020 --> 00:43:49.980
 what's

00:43:49.980 --> 00:43:50.220
 that

00:43:50.220 --> 00:43:50.720
 shift

00:43:50.720 --> 00:43:51.160
 as

00:43:51.160 --> 00:43:51.640
 you're

00:43:51.640 --> 00:43:52.060
 moving

00:43:52.060 --> 00:43:52.820
 away

00:43:52.820 --> 00:43:53.180
 from

00:43:53.180 --> 00:43:53.380
 the

00:43:53.380 --> 00:43:53.820
 professional

00:43:53.820 --> 00:43:54.380
 Christians

00:43:54.380 --> 00:43:54.700
 doing

00:43:54.700 --> 00:43:54.860
 the

00:43:54.860 --> 00:43:55.200
 ministry

00:43:55.200 --> 00:43:55.480
 to

00:43:55.480 --> 00:43:55.840
 now

00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:57.480
 empowering

00:43:57.480 --> 00:43:57.800
 the

00:43:57.800 --> 00:43:58.120
 laity

00:43:58.120 --> 00:43:58.340
 and

00:43:58.340 --> 00:43:58.880
 discipling

00:43:58.880 --> 00:43:59.040
 them

00:43:59.040 --> 00:43:59.360
 towards

00:43:59.360 --> 00:43:59.560
 that

00:43:59.560 --> 00:44:00.280
 well

00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:00.720
 it's

00:44:00.720 --> 00:44:00.980
 easier

00:44:00.980 --> 00:44:01.280
 now

00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:01.440
 than

00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:01.580
 it

00:44:01.580 --> 00:44:02.040
 was

00:44:02.040 --> 00:44:02.620
 because

00:44:02.620 --> 00:44:03.240
 we

00:44:03.240 --> 00:44:03.500
 have

00:44:03.500 --> 00:44:03.840
 proof

00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:04.000
 of

00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:04.600
 concept

00:44:04.600 --> 00:44:06.080
 but

00:44:06.080 --> 00:44:06.360
 early

00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:06.680
 on

00:44:06.680 --> 00:44:06.840
 I

00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:07.040
 had

00:44:07.040 --> 00:44:07.380
 so

00:44:07.380 --> 00:44:07.600
 much

00:44:07.600 --> 00:44:08.120
 resistance

00:44:08.120 --> 00:44:09.260
 and

00:44:09.260 --> 00:44:10.060
 sadly

00:44:10.060 --> 00:44:11.780
 I

00:44:11.780 --> 00:44:11.980
 had

00:44:11.980 --> 00:44:12.220
 no

00:44:12.220 --> 00:44:12.740
 encouragement

00:44:12.740 --> 00:44:13.060
 from

00:44:13.060 --> 00:44:13.280
 other

00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:13.660
 pastors

00:44:13.660 --> 00:44:14.060
 I

00:44:14.060 --> 00:44:14.340
 did

00:44:14.340 --> 00:44:14.540
 have

00:44:14.540 --> 00:44:14.780
 much

00:44:14.780 --> 00:44:15.260
 resistance

00:44:15.260 --> 00:44:15.520
 from

00:44:15.520 --> 00:44:15.720
 other

00:44:15.720 --> 00:44:16.100
 pastors

00:44:16.100 --> 00:44:18.220
 they

00:44:18.220 --> 00:44:18.860
 hated

00:44:18.860 --> 00:44:19.060
 the

00:44:19.060 --> 00:44:19.300
 fact

00:44:19.300 --> 00:44:19.480
 that

00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:19.580
 I

00:44:19.580 --> 00:44:19.700
 would

00:44:19.700 --> 00:44:19.940
 call

00:44:19.940 --> 00:44:20.320
 something

00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:20.480
 a

00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:20.720
 house

00:44:20.720 --> 00:44:21.060
 church

00:44:21.060 --> 00:44:22.160
 and

00:44:22.160 --> 00:44:22.520
 I

00:44:22.520 --> 00:44:22.660
 mean

00:44:22.660 --> 00:44:22.840
 I

00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:23.200
 was

00:44:23.200 --> 00:44:23.380
 met

00:44:23.380 --> 00:44:23.500
 with

00:44:23.500 --> 00:44:24.120
 animosity

00:44:24.120 --> 00:44:24.580
 and

00:44:24.580 --> 00:44:25.200
 ridicule

00:44:25.200 --> 00:44:26.260
 they

00:44:26.260 --> 00:44:26.480
 hated

00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:26.660
 the

00:44:26.660 --> 00:44:26.940
 fact

00:44:26.940 --> 00:44:27.140
 that

00:44:27.140 --> 00:44:27.300
 I

00:44:27.300 --> 00:44:27.500
 would

00:44:27.500 --> 00:44:27.780
 call

00:44:27.780 --> 00:44:28.020
 someone

00:44:28.020 --> 00:44:28.180
 a

00:44:28.180 --> 00:44:28.620
 pastor

00:44:28.620 --> 00:44:29.080
 who

00:44:29.080 --> 00:44:29.480
 wasn't

00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:29.780
 sort

00:44:29.780 --> 00:44:29.900
 of

00:44:29.900 --> 00:44:30.240
 clergy

00:44:30.240 --> 00:44:30.620
 if you

00:44:30.620 --> 00:44:30.860
 will

00:44:30.860 --> 00:44:31.740
 and

00:44:31.740 --> 00:44:32.800
 but

00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:33.200
 again

00:44:33.200 --> 00:44:33.400
 I

00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:33.540
 mean

00:44:33.540 --> 00:44:33.740
 I've

00:44:33.740 --> 00:44:33.980
 spent

00:44:33.980 --> 00:44:34.160
 my

00:44:34.160 --> 00:44:34.400
 life

00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:34.760
 studying

00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:35.000
 these

00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:35.280
 things

00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:35.480
 and

00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:35.740
 the

00:44:35.740 --> 00:44:36.220
 one

00:44:36.220 --> 00:44:36.540
 guy

00:44:36.540 --> 00:44:36.800
 that

00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:37.200
 was

00:44:37.200 --> 00:44:38.960
 really

00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:39.180
 had

00:44:39.180 --> 00:44:39.360
 some

00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:39.980
 animosity

00:44:39.980 --> 00:44:40.340
 toward

00:44:40.340 --> 00:44:40.540
 me

00:44:40.540 --> 00:44:40.960
 anger

00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:41.820
 about

00:44:41.820 --> 00:44:42.260
 this

00:44:42.260 --> 00:44:43.180
 not

00:44:43.180 --> 00:44:43.420
 long

00:44:43.420 --> 00:44:43.600
 after

00:44:43.600 --> 00:44:43.760
 we

00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:43.900
 had

00:44:43.900 --> 00:44:44.320
 started

00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:45.380
 sat

00:44:45.380 --> 00:44:45.600
 down

00:44:45.600 --> 00:44:45.760
 with

00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:45.940
 me

00:44:45.940 --> 00:44:46.080
 and

00:44:46.080 --> 00:44:46.200
 he

00:44:46.200 --> 00:44:46.440
 said

00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:47.100
 he

00:44:47.100 --> 00:44:47.300
 sort

00:44:47.300 --> 00:44:47.380
 of

00:44:47.380 --> 00:44:47.580
 asked

00:44:47.580 --> 00:44:47.680
 me

00:44:47.680 --> 00:44:47.840
 these

00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:48.220
 questions

00:44:48.220 --> 00:44:48.380
 and

00:44:48.380 --> 00:44:48.480
 I

00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:48.620
 said

00:44:48.620 --> 00:44:48.720
 I

00:44:48.720 --> 00:44:48.880
 tell

00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:48.980
 you

00:44:48.980 --> 00:44:49.200
 what

00:44:49.200 --> 00:44:49.980
 I'm

00:44:49.980 --> 00:44:50.060
 going

00:44:50.060 --> 00:44:50.140
 to

00:44:50.140 --> 00:44:50.260
 get

00:44:50.260 --> 00:44:50.440
 my

00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:50.800
 Bible

00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:50.960
 and

00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:51.480
 open

00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:51.780
 it

00:44:51.780 --> 00:44:52.600
 and

00:44:52.600 --> 00:44:52.820
 I'm

00:44:52.820 --> 00:44:52.880
 going

00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:52.960
 to

00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:53.200
 answer

00:44:53.200 --> 00:44:53.400
 your

00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:53.820
 questions

00:44:53.820 --> 00:44:54.020
 with

00:44:54.020 --> 00:44:54.140
 an

00:44:54.140 --> 00:44:54.400
 open

00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:54.780
 Bible

00:44:54.780 --> 00:44:55.700
 and

00:44:55.700 --> 00:44:55.860
 then

00:44:55.860 --> 00:44:55.980
 I'm

00:44:55.980 --> 00:44:56.060
 going

00:44:56.060 --> 00:44:56.160
 to

00:44:56.160 --> 00:44:56.440
 ask

00:44:56.440 --> 00:44:56.540
 you

00:44:56.540 --> 00:44:56.700
 the

00:44:56.700 --> 00:44:56.900
 same

00:44:56.900 --> 00:44:57.240
 questions

00:44:57.240 --> 00:44:57.480
 you're

00:44:57.480 --> 00:44:57.740
 asking

00:44:57.740 --> 00:44:58.120
 me

00:44:58.120 --> 00:44:59.240
 and

00:44:59.240 --> 00:44:59.380
 I'm

00:44:59.380 --> 00:44:59.460
 going

00:44:59.460 --> 00:44:59.540
 to

00:44:59.540 --> 00:44:59.780
 ask

00:44:59.780 --> 00:44:59.940
 you

00:44:59.940 --> 00:45:00.560
 answer

00:45:00.560 --> 00:45:00.780
 your

00:45:00.780 --> 00:45:01.220
 questions

00:45:01.220 --> 00:45:01.460
 with

00:45:01.460 --> 00:45:01.640
 your

00:45:01.640 --> 00:45:01.920
 open

00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:02.260
 Bible

00:45:02.260 --> 00:45:03.540
 and

00:45:03.540 --> 00:45:03.760
 he

00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:04.120
 sat

00:45:04.120 --> 00:45:04.380
 back

00:45:04.380 --> 00:45:04.540
 for

00:45:04.540 --> 00:45:04.620
 a

00:45:04.620 --> 00:45:04.760
 minute

00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:05.360
 and

00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:05.620
 he

00:45:05.620 --> 00:45:06.020
 calmed

00:45:06.020 --> 00:45:06.360
 down

00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:06.500
 and

00:45:06.500 --> 00:45:06.640
 he

00:45:06.640 --> 00:45:06.920
 said

00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:07.740
 I

00:45:07.740 --> 00:45:07.980
 can't

00:45:07.980 --> 00:45:08.100
 do

00:45:08.100 --> 00:45:08.400
 that

00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:09.460
 and

00:45:09.460 --> 00:45:09.560
 I

00:45:09.560 --> 00:45:09.680
 said

00:45:09.680 --> 00:45:09.840
 well

00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:10.020
 I

00:45:10.020 --> 00:45:10.260
 can

00:45:10.260 --> 00:45:10.520
 use

00:45:10.520 --> 00:45:10.720
 my

00:45:10.720 --> 00:45:11.060
 Bible

00:45:11.060 --> 00:45:11.280
 to

00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:11.480
 tell

00:45:11.480 --> 00:45:11.660
 you

00:45:11.660 --> 00:45:11.880
 why

00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:12.060
 we're

00:45:12.060 --> 00:45:12.260
 doing

00:45:12.260 --> 00:45:12.420
 what

00:45:12.420 --> 00:45:12.540
 we're

00:45:12.540 --> 00:45:12.880
 doing

00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:14.020
 why

00:45:14.020 --> 00:45:14.320
 we're

00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:14.600
 using

00:45:14.600 --> 00:45:14.760
 the

00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:15.320
 nomenclature

00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:15.560
 we're

00:45:15.560 --> 00:45:15.900
 using

00:45:15.900 --> 00:45:16.780
 why

00:45:16.780 --> 00:45:16.960
 we're

00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:17.160
 having

00:45:17.160 --> 00:45:17.340
 the

00:45:17.340 --> 00:45:17.660
 structure

00:45:17.660 --> 00:45:17.940
 we're

00:45:17.940 --> 00:45:18.240
 having

00:45:18.240 --> 00:45:18.680
 I

00:45:18.680 --> 00:45:18.840
 can

00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:19.000
 use

00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:19.200
 my

00:45:19.200 --> 00:45:19.540
 Bible

00:45:19.540 --> 00:45:19.760
 to

00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:20.160
 explain

00:45:20.160 --> 00:45:20.360
 that

00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:20.520
 to

00:45:20.520 --> 00:45:20.840
 you

00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:22.120
 and

00:45:22.120 --> 00:45:22.340
 you're

00:45:22.340 --> 00:45:22.620
 using

00:45:22.620 --> 00:45:23.220
 tradition

00:45:23.220 --> 00:45:24.200
 to

00:45:24.200 --> 00:45:24.820
 explain

00:45:24.820 --> 00:45:25.740
 to

00:45:25.740 --> 00:45:26.280
 defend

00:45:26.280 --> 00:45:26.980
 your

00:45:26.980 --> 00:45:27.400
 position

00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:27.600
 to

00:45:27.600 --> 00:45:27.860
 me

00:45:27.860 --> 00:45:28.740
 and

00:45:28.740 --> 00:45:29.100
 so

00:45:29.100 --> 00:45:29.820
 yeah

00:45:29.820 --> 00:45:30.240
 it was

00:45:30.240 --> 00:45:30.660
 it was

00:45:30.660 --> 00:45:31.060
 really

00:45:31.060 --> 00:45:31.460
 difficult

00:45:31.460 --> 00:45:31.740
 I

00:45:31.740 --> 00:45:31.960
 mean

00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:33.000
 nobody

00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:33.740
 nobody

00:45:33.740 --> 00:45:34.320
 was using

00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:34.640
 the word

00:45:34.640 --> 00:45:34.960
 house

00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:35.260
 church

00:45:35.260 --> 00:45:35.600
 around

00:45:35.600 --> 00:45:35.900
 in

00:45:35.900 --> 00:45:36.880
 Texas

00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:37.400
 as far

00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:37.680
 as I

00:45:37.680 --> 00:45:37.880
 knew

00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:39.160
 or

00:45:39.160 --> 00:45:39.580
 anywhere

00:45:39.580 --> 00:45:40.300
 I

00:45:40.300 --> 00:45:41.000
 know

00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:41.280
 people

00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:41.480
 were

00:45:41.480 --> 00:45:41.800
 using

00:45:41.800 --> 00:45:42.060
 it

00:45:42.060 --> 00:45:42.320
 but

00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:42.560
 I

00:45:42.560 --> 00:45:42.820
 hadn't

00:45:42.820 --> 00:45:43.020
 heard

00:45:43.020 --> 00:45:43.160
 of

00:45:43.160 --> 00:45:43.300
 it

00:45:43.300 --> 00:45:43.480
 yeah

00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:43.660
 I

00:45:43.660 --> 00:45:43.780
 mean

00:45:43.780 --> 00:45:43.900
 there

00:45:43.900 --> 00:45:44.020
 was

00:45:44.020 --> 00:45:44.120
 a

00:45:44.120 --> 00:45:44.400
 negative

00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:45.460
 intention

00:45:45.460 --> 00:45:45.820
 behind

00:45:45.820 --> 00:45:45.960
 the

00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:46.080
 word

00:45:46.080 --> 00:45:46.240
 like

00:45:46.240 --> 00:45:46.440
 I

00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:46.660
 was

00:45:46.660 --> 00:45:46.900
 using

00:45:46.900 --> 00:45:47.080
 it

00:45:47.080 --> 00:45:47.820
 2016

00:45:47.820 --> 00:45:48.820
 and

00:45:48.820 --> 00:45:49.060
 I

00:45:49.060 --> 00:45:49.220
 just

00:45:49.220 --> 00:45:49.340
 had

00:45:49.340 --> 00:45:49.500
 so

00:45:49.500 --> 00:45:49.620
 many

00:45:49.620 --> 00:45:50.000
 people

00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:50.760
 like

00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:51.240
 you

00:45:51.240 --> 00:45:51.460
 can't

00:45:51.460 --> 00:45:51.540
 you

00:45:51.540 --> 00:45:52.480
 do

00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:52.720
 house

00:45:52.720 --> 00:45:52.980
 church

00:45:52.980 --> 00:45:53.240
 what

00:45:53.240 --> 00:45:53.420
 do

00:45:53.420 --> 00:45:53.460
 you

00:45:53.460 --> 00:45:53.680
 mean

00:45:53.680 --> 00:45:54.360
 because

00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:54.560
 of

00:45:54.560 --> 00:45:54.700
 you

00:45:54.700 --> 00:45:54.780
 know

00:45:54.780 --> 00:45:54.900
 they

00:45:54.900 --> 00:45:55.000
 were

00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:55.240
 talking

00:45:55.240 --> 00:45:55.400
 about

00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:55.640
 stuff

00:45:55.640 --> 00:45:55.740
 in

00:45:55.740 --> 00:45:55.980
 the

00:45:55.980 --> 00:45:56.460
 70s

00:45:56.460 --> 00:45:56.560
 and

00:45:56.560 --> 00:45:56.880
 80s

00:45:56.880 --> 00:45:56.960
 and

00:45:56.960 --> 00:45:57.440
 90s

00:45:57.440 --> 00:45:57.520
 and

00:45:57.520 --> 00:45:57.600
 I

00:45:57.600 --> 00:45:58.740
 wasn't

00:45:58.740 --> 00:45:58.900
 even

00:45:58.900 --> 00:45:59.340
 alive

00:45:59.340 --> 00:45:59.600
 then

00:45:59.600 --> 00:45:59.780
 like

00:45:59.780 --> 00:45:59.920
 these

00:45:59.920 --> 00:46:00.120
 people

00:46:00.120 --> 00:46:00.300
 weren't

00:46:00.300 --> 00:46:00.440
 doing

00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:00.780
 ministry

00:46:00.780 --> 00:46:01.000
 then

00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:01.180
 but

00:46:01.180 --> 00:46:01.320
 there

00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:01.440
 was

00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:01.620
 such

00:46:01.620 --> 00:46:01.980
 a

00:46:01.980 --> 00:46:02.400
 negative

00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:02.820
 tinge

00:46:02.820 --> 00:46:02.980
 on

00:46:02.980 --> 00:46:03.120
 the

00:46:03.120 --> 00:46:03.420
 word

00:46:03.420 --> 00:46:03.780
 and

00:46:03.780 --> 00:46:03.980
 so

00:46:03.980 --> 00:46:04.160
 to

00:46:04.160 --> 00:46:04.380
 see

00:46:04.380 --> 00:46:04.660
 you

00:46:04.660 --> 00:46:05.260
 being

00:46:05.260 --> 00:46:05.400
 a

00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:05.520
 six

00:46:05.520 --> 00:46:05.700
 and

00:46:05.700 --> 00:46:05.840
 you

00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:05.920
 know

00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:06.180
 Rob

00:46:06.180 --> 00:46:06.500
 Wagner

00:46:06.500 --> 00:46:06.680
 and

00:46:06.680 --> 00:46:06.800
 so

00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:06.960
 many

00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:07.140
 other

00:46:07.140 --> 00:46:07.380
 guys

00:46:07.380 --> 00:46:07.640
 Casey

00:46:07.640 --> 00:46:07.980
 underground

00:46:07.980 --> 00:46:08.460
 I

00:46:08.460 --> 00:46:08.620
 mean

00:46:08.620 --> 00:46:09.020
 there

00:46:09.020 --> 00:46:09.360
 there's

00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:09.660
 this

00:46:21.540 --> 00:46:21.680
 happening

00:46:21.680 --> 00:46:22.080
 now

00:46:22.080 --> 00:46:22.780
 and

00:46:22.780 --> 00:46:23.300
 but

00:46:23.300 --> 00:46:23.600
 we're

00:46:23.600 --> 00:46:23.960
 actually

00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:24.280
 still

00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:24.520
 I

00:46:24.520 --> 00:46:24.700
 think

00:46:24.700 --> 00:46:25.020
 a lot

00:46:25.020 --> 00:46:25.160
 of

00:46:25.160 --> 00:46:25.440
 people

00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:25.760
 like

00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:26.300
 Jeff

00:46:26.300 --> 00:46:26.680
 are

00:46:26.680 --> 00:46:27.360
 throwing

00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:27.540
 the

00:46:27.540 --> 00:46:27.700
 word

00:46:27.700 --> 00:46:28.020
 house

00:46:28.020 --> 00:46:28.220
 church

00:46:28.220 --> 00:46:28.400
 or

00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:28.680
 micro

00:46:28.680 --> 00:46:28.980
 church

00:46:28.980 --> 00:46:29.180
 on

00:46:29.180 --> 00:46:29.600
 something

00:46:29.600 --> 00:46:30.500
 and

00:46:30.500 --> 00:46:30.920
 there

00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:31.020
 are

00:46:31.020 --> 00:46:31.240
 people

00:46:31.240 --> 00:46:31.500
 in

00:46:31.500 --> 00:46:32.060
 established

00:46:32.060 --> 00:46:32.400
 churches

00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:32.560
 who

00:46:32.560 --> 00:46:32.640
 are

00:46:32.640 --> 00:46:32.820
 now

00:46:32.820 --> 00:46:33.100
 calling

00:46:33.100 --> 00:46:33.280
 their

00:46:33.280 --> 00:46:33.600
 groups

00:46:33.600 --> 00:46:33.880
 house

00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:34.240
 churches

00:46:34.240 --> 00:46:35.000
 and

00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:35.120
 I'm

00:46:35.120 --> 00:46:35.260
 like

00:46:35.260 --> 00:46:35.460
 look

00:46:35.460 --> 00:46:35.580
 you

00:46:35.580 --> 00:46:35.780
 just

00:46:35.780 --> 00:46:36.200
 changed

00:46:36.200 --> 00:46:36.620
 somebody's

00:46:36.620 --> 00:46:36.900
 name

00:46:36.900 --> 00:46:37.060
 but

00:46:37.060 --> 00:46:37.180
 you

00:46:37.180 --> 00:46:37.340
 didn't

00:46:37.340 --> 00:46:37.660
 change

00:46:37.660 --> 00:46:37.860
 any

00:46:37.860 --> 00:46:38.300
 substance

00:46:38.300 --> 00:46:38.580
 or

00:46:38.580 --> 00:46:38.940
 structure

00:46:38.940 --> 00:46:39.240
 or

00:46:39.240 --> 00:46:39.600
 function

00:46:39.600 --> 00:46:40.420
 and

00:46:40.420 --> 00:46:40.740
 so

00:46:40.740 --> 00:46:41.260
 I

00:46:41.260 --> 00:46:41.520
 think

00:46:41.520 --> 00:46:41.720
 it's

00:46:41.720 --> 00:46:42.400
 diluting

00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:42.780
 the

00:46:42.780 --> 00:46:43.240
 beauty

00:46:43.240 --> 00:46:43.800
 of what

00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:44.080
 house

00:46:44.080 --> 00:46:44.320
 church

00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:44.740
 is

00:46:44.740 --> 00:46:46.540
 I'll

00:46:46.540 --> 00:46:47.160
 also

00:46:47.160 --> 00:46:47.580
 tell you

00:46:47.580 --> 00:46:47.840
 that

00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:48.800
 in

00:46:48.800 --> 00:46:49.560
 conversations

00:46:49.560 --> 00:46:50.080
 with a

00:46:50.080 --> 00:46:50.220
 lot

00:46:50.220 --> 00:46:50.320
 of

00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:50.420
 the

00:46:50.420 --> 00:46:50.760
 people

00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:51.040
 that

00:46:51.040 --> 00:46:51.180
 you

00:46:51.180 --> 00:46:51.300
 and

00:46:51.300 --> 00:46:51.420
 I

00:46:51.420 --> 00:46:51.700
 know

00:46:51.700 --> 00:46:52.040
 I'm

00:46:52.040 --> 00:46:52.240
 really

00:46:52.240 --> 00:46:52.620
 wrestling

00:46:52.620 --> 00:46:52.840
 with

00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:52.980
 them

00:46:52.980 --> 00:46:53.300
 about

00:46:53.300 --> 00:46:53.700
 what

00:46:53.700 --> 00:46:53.960
 is

00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:54.940
 a

00:46:54.940 --> 00:46:55.300
 church

00:46:55.300 --> 00:46:55.540
 whether

00:46:55.540 --> 00:46:55.720
 we

00:46:55.720 --> 00:46:55.880
 call

00:46:55.880 --> 00:46:55.980
 it

00:46:55.980 --> 00:46:56.120
 a

00:46:56.120 --> 00:46:56.400
 micro

00:46:56.400 --> 00:46:56.680
 church

00:46:56.680 --> 00:46:56.840
 or

00:46:56.840 --> 00:46:56.960
 a

00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:57.200
 house

00:46:57.200 --> 00:46:57.480
 church

00:46:57.480 --> 00:46:58.140
 do

00:46:58.140 --> 00:46:58.320
 we

00:46:58.320 --> 00:46:58.560
 have

00:46:58.560 --> 00:46:58.760
 some

00:46:58.760 --> 00:46:59.240
 empirical

00:46:59.240 --> 00:46:59.860
 base

00:46:59.860 --> 00:47:00.160
 for

00:47:00.160 --> 00:47:00.380
 what

00:47:00.380 --> 00:47:00.580
 a

00:47:00.580 --> 00:47:00.980
 church

00:47:00.980 --> 00:47:01.320
 is

00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:01.780
 I

00:47:01.780 --> 00:47:01.920
 mean

00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:02.080
 is

00:47:02.080 --> 00:47:02.200
 it

00:47:02.200 --> 00:47:02.440
 just

00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:02.680
 two

00:47:02.680 --> 00:47:02.920
 people

00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:03.180
 playing

00:47:03.180 --> 00:47:03.660
 checkers

00:47:03.660 --> 00:47:03.800
 and

00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:04.040
 talking

00:47:04.040 --> 00:47:04.300
 about

00:47:04.300 --> 00:47:04.620
 Jesus

00:47:04.620 --> 00:47:04.920
 is

00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:05.180
 that

00:47:05.180 --> 00:47:05.360
 a

00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:05.820
 church

00:47:05.820 --> 00:47:06.700
 or

00:47:06.700 --> 00:47:07.380
 what

00:47:07.380 --> 00:47:07.540
 is

00:47:07.540 --> 00:47:07.700
 a

00:47:07.700 --> 00:47:08.220
 church

00:47:08.220 --> 00:47:08.620
 and

00:47:08.620 --> 00:47:08.780
 so

00:47:08.780 --> 00:47:08.900
 I

00:47:08.900 --> 00:47:09.040
 think

00:47:09.040 --> 00:47:09.200
 a

00:47:09.200 --> 00:47:09.500
 church

00:47:09.500 --> 00:47:10.160
 does

00:47:10.160 --> 00:47:10.520
 have

00:47:10.520 --> 00:47:10.700
 some

00:47:10.700 --> 00:47:11.600
 identifiers

00:47:11.600 --> 00:47:11.880
 that

00:47:11.880 --> 00:47:12.060
 we

00:47:12.060 --> 00:47:12.300
 need

00:47:12.300 --> 00:47:12.740
 to

00:47:12.740 --> 00:47:14.500
 be

00:47:14.500 --> 00:47:14.920
 clear

00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:15.180
 on

00:47:15.180 --> 00:47:15.440
 before

00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:15.680
 we

00:47:15.680 --> 00:47:15.980
 name

00:47:15.980 --> 00:47:16.360
 something

00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:16.540
 a

00:47:16.540 --> 00:47:16.960
 church

00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:17.600
 but

00:47:17.600 --> 00:47:18.060
 I've

00:47:18.060 --> 00:47:18.240
 had

00:47:18.240 --> 00:47:18.520
 plenty

00:47:18.520 --> 00:47:18.660
 of

00:47:18.660 --> 00:47:18.920
 people

00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:19.240
 that

00:47:19.240 --> 00:47:19.520
 have

00:47:19.520 --> 00:47:19.760
 just

00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:20.300
 changed

00:47:20.300 --> 00:47:20.520
 their

00:47:20.520 --> 00:47:20.960
 group

00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:21.300
 name

00:47:21.300 --> 00:47:21.500
 to

00:47:21.500 --> 00:47:21.840
 house

00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:22.200
 church

00:47:22.200 --> 00:47:22.860
 but

00:47:22.860 --> 00:47:23.120
 it's

00:47:23.120 --> 00:47:23.500
 still

00:47:23.500 --> 00:47:24.060
 it's

00:47:24.060 --> 00:47:24.260
 not

00:47:24.260 --> 00:47:24.460
 a

00:47:24.460 --> 00:47:25.000
 church

00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:25.480
 it

00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:25.740
 doesn't

00:47:25.740 --> 00:47:26.000
 have

00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:26.240
 any

00:47:26.240 --> 00:47:27.140
 authority

00:47:27.140 --> 00:47:27.720
 it

00:47:27.720 --> 00:47:27.940
 doesn't

00:47:27.940 --> 00:47:28.140
 have

00:47:28.140 --> 00:47:28.300
 any

00:47:28.300 --> 00:47:28.780
 individual

00:47:28.780 --> 00:47:29.440
 identity

00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:30.120
 and

00:47:30.120 --> 00:47:30.240
 it

00:47:30.240 --> 00:47:30.520
 doesn't

00:47:30.520 --> 00:47:30.800
 have

00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:31.020
 any

00:47:31.020 --> 00:47:31.340
 real

00:47:31.340 --> 00:47:31.960
 functions

00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:32.140
 of

00:47:32.140 --> 00:47:32.260
 a

00:47:32.260 --> 00:47:32.600
 church

00:47:32.600 --> 00:47:32.840
 other

00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:33.240
 than

00:47:33.240 --> 00:47:33.860
 some

00:47:33.860 --> 00:47:34.120
 very

00:47:38.220 --> 00:47:38.660
 that

00:47:38.660 --> 00:47:38.900
 some

00:47:38.900 --> 00:47:39.260
 small

00:47:39.260 --> 00:47:39.520
 groups

00:47:39.520 --> 00:47:39.660
 would

00:47:39.660 --> 00:47:39.820
 have

00:47:39.820 --> 00:47:40.220
 before

00:47:40.220 --> 00:47:40.900
 and

00:47:40.900 --> 00:47:41.060
 so

00:47:41.060 --> 00:47:42.500
 not

00:47:42.500 --> 00:47:42.720
 only

00:47:42.720 --> 00:47:42.880
 do

00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:43.020
 I

00:47:43.020 --> 00:47:43.380
 love

00:47:43.380 --> 00:47:43.760
 that

00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:44.700
 we're

00:47:44.700 --> 00:47:45.020
 helping

00:47:45.020 --> 00:47:45.680
 define

00:47:45.680 --> 00:47:46.040
 and

00:47:46.040 --> 00:47:46.820
 illuminate

00:47:46.820 --> 00:47:47.020
 what

00:47:47.020 --> 00:47:47.300
 house

00:47:47.300 --> 00:47:47.560
 church

00:47:47.560 --> 00:47:47.960
 is

00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:48.100
 and

00:47:48.100 --> 00:47:48.280
 could

00:47:48.280 --> 00:47:48.760
 be

00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:49.240
 I

00:47:49.240 --> 00:47:49.440
 also

00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:49.580
 want

00:47:49.580 --> 00:47:49.700
 to

00:47:49.700 --> 00:47:50.180
 protect

00:47:50.180 --> 00:47:50.500
 that

00:47:50.500 --> 00:47:50.740
 from

00:47:50.740 --> 00:47:51.020
 being

00:47:51.020 --> 00:47:51.680
 misused

00:47:51.680 --> 00:47:52.000
 if you

00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:52.200
 will

00:47:52.200 --> 00:47:52.700
 let me

00:47:52.700 --> 00:47:52.880
 ask

00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:53.020
 this

00:47:53.020 --> 00:47:53.420
 question

00:47:53.420 --> 00:47:54.280
 this

00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:54.580
 will

00:47:54.580 --> 00:47:54.720
 be

00:47:54.720 --> 00:47:55.220
 interesting

00:47:55.220 --> 00:47:55.600
 so

00:47:55.600 --> 00:47:56.040
 I

00:47:56.040 --> 00:47:58.020
 have

00:47:58.020 --> 00:47:58.520
 a

00:47:58.520 --> 00:47:58.860
 pastor

00:47:58.860 --> 00:47:59.200
 friend

00:47:59.200 --> 00:47:59.340
 of

00:47:59.340 --> 00:47:59.540
 mine

00:47:59.540 --> 00:48:00.080
 called

00:48:00.080 --> 00:48:00.280
 me

00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:00.480
 up

00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:00.640
 and

00:48:00.640 --> 00:48:00.860
 I

00:48:00.860 --> 00:48:01.260
 talked

00:48:01.260 --> 00:48:01.440
 to

00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:01.600
 him

00:48:01.600 --> 00:48:02.200
 every

00:48:02.200 --> 00:48:03.120
 couple

00:48:03.120 --> 00:48:03.400
 months

00:48:03.400 --> 00:48:03.880
 he's

00:48:03.880 --> 00:48:04.080
 one

00:48:04.080 --> 00:48:04.220
 of

00:48:04.220 --> 00:48:04.640
 the

00:48:04.640 --> 00:48:05.120
 Pauls

00:48:05.120 --> 00:48:05.200
 in

00:48:08.220 --> 00:48:12.980
 he

00:48:12.980 --> 00:48:16.380
 was

00:48:16.380 --> 00:48:16.700
 talking

00:48:16.700 --> 00:48:16.900
 to

00:48:16.900 --> 00:48:17.040
 me

00:48:17.040 --> 00:48:17.180
 we're

00:48:17.180 --> 00:48:17.440
 talking

00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:17.760
 about

00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:18.320
 digital

00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:19.380
 the

00:48:19.380 --> 00:48:20.080
 ecclesiology

00:48:20.080 --> 00:48:20.400
 of a

00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:20.660
 digital

00:48:20.660 --> 00:48:21.020
 church

00:48:21.020 --> 00:48:22.220
 and

00:48:22.220 --> 00:48:22.420
 some

00:48:22.420 --> 00:48:22.500
 of

00:48:22.500 --> 00:48:22.600
 that

00:48:22.600 --> 00:48:23.600
 I'm

00:48:23.600 --> 00:48:23.880
 wrestling

00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:24.220
 with

00:48:24.220 --> 00:48:25.380
 he

00:48:25.380 --> 00:48:25.860
 made

00:48:25.860 --> 00:48:26.040
 this

00:48:26.040 --> 00:48:26.340
 statement

00:48:26.340 --> 00:48:26.540
 he

00:48:26.540 --> 00:48:26.780
 says

00:48:26.780 --> 00:48:27.260
 Jeff

00:48:27.260 --> 00:48:27.380
 you

00:48:27.380 --> 00:48:27.480
 need

00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:27.580
 to

00:48:27.580 --> 00:48:27.960
 realize

00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:28.540
 the

00:48:28.540 --> 00:48:29.180
 ecclesiology

00:48:29.180 --> 00:48:29.560
 of a

00:48:29.560 --> 00:48:29.820
 digital

00:48:29.820 --> 00:48:30.140
 church

00:48:30.140 --> 00:48:30.280
 is

00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:30.380
 going

00:48:30.380 --> 00:48:30.460
 to

00:48:30.460 --> 00:48:30.620
 take

00:48:30.620 --> 00:48:30.880
 30

00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:31.100
 years

00:48:31.100 --> 00:48:31.260
 to

00:48:31.260 --> 00:48:31.620
 develop

00:48:31.620 --> 00:48:32.940
 and

00:48:32.940 --> 00:48:33.480
 I

00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:34.260
 to be

00:48:34.260 --> 00:48:35.140
 honest

00:48:35.140 --> 00:48:35.440
 I

00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:36.160
 hadn't

00:48:36.160 --> 00:48:36.480
 even

00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:37.120
 thought

00:48:37.120 --> 00:48:37.420
 that

00:48:37.420 --> 00:48:37.740
 like

00:48:37.740 --> 00:48:37.940
 that

00:48:37.940 --> 00:48:38.740
 wasn't

00:48:38.740 --> 00:48:38.980
 out

00:48:38.980 --> 00:48:39.340
 there

00:48:39.340 --> 00:48:39.520
 I

00:48:39.520 --> 00:48:39.980
 don't

00:48:39.980 --> 00:48:40.140
 want

00:48:40.140 --> 00:48:40.200
 you

00:48:40.200 --> 00:48:40.300
 to

00:48:40.300 --> 00:48:40.400
 get

00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:40.520
 into

00:48:40.520 --> 00:48:40.680
 the

00:48:40.680 --> 00:48:40.940
 digital

00:48:40.940 --> 00:48:41.220
 side

00:48:41.220 --> 00:48:41.340
 of

00:48:41.340 --> 00:48:41.480
 this

00:48:41.480 --> 00:48:41.700
 but

00:48:41.700 --> 00:48:42.300
 with

00:48:42.300 --> 00:48:42.600
 house

00:48:42.600 --> 00:48:42.960
 church

00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:43.720
 do

00:48:43.720 --> 00:48:43.920
 you

00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:44.140
 see

00:48:44.140 --> 00:48:44.380
 where

00:48:44.380 --> 00:48:44.680
 there's

00:48:44.680 --> 00:48:45.200
 a

00:48:45.200 --> 00:48:45.580
 potential

00:48:45.580 --> 00:48:46.020
 where

00:48:46.020 --> 00:48:46.280
 the

00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:47.140
 ecclesiology

00:48:47.140 --> 00:48:47.980
 the

00:48:47.980 --> 00:48:48.560
 functions

00:48:48.560 --> 00:48:48.820
 of

00:48:48.820 --> 00:48:49.000
 this

00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:49.420
 continues

00:48:49.420 --> 00:48:49.820
 to

00:48:49.820 --> 00:48:50.640
 evolve

00:48:50.640 --> 00:48:50.860
 and

00:48:50.860 --> 00:48:51.080
 grow

00:48:51.080 --> 00:48:51.320
 over

00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:51.800
 time

00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:52.860
 what's

00:48:52.860 --> 00:48:53.000
 your

00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:53.380
 opinion

00:48:53.380 --> 00:48:53.820
 on

00:48:53.820 --> 00:48:54.260
 what

00:48:54.260 --> 00:48:54.640
 maybe

00:48:54.640 --> 00:48:55.200
 even

00:48:55.200 --> 00:48:55.380
 the

00:48:55.380 --> 00:48:55.580
 10

00:48:55.580 --> 00:48:55.880
 years

00:48:55.880 --> 00:48:56.020
 to

00:48:56.020 --> 00:48:56.120
 where

00:48:56.120 --> 00:48:56.220
 you

00:48:56.220 --> 00:48:56.340
 are

00:48:56.340 --> 00:48:56.640
 now

00:48:56.640 --> 00:48:56.800
 to

00:48:56.800 --> 00:48:56.920
 where

00:48:56.920 --> 00:48:57.020
 you

00:48:57.020 --> 00:48:57.180
 might

00:48:57.180 --> 00:48:57.480
 be

00:48:57.480 --> 00:48:58.360
 20

00:48:58.360 --> 00:48:59.320
 42

00:48:59.320 --> 00:48:59.720
 I'm

00:48:59.720 --> 00:48:59.880
 doing

00:48:59.880 --> 00:49:00.160
 bad

00:49:00.160 --> 00:49:00.420
 math

00:49:00.420 --> 00:49:01.100
 what do

00:49:01.100 --> 00:49:01.180
 you

00:49:01.180 --> 00:49:01.340
 think

00:49:01.340 --> 00:49:01.540
 that's

00:49:01.540 --> 00:49:01.640
 going

00:49:01.640 --> 00:49:01.720
 to

00:49:01.720 --> 00:49:01.840
 look

00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:02.060
 like

00:49:02.060 --> 00:49:02.540
 well

00:49:02.540 --> 00:49:02.740
 I

00:49:02.740 --> 00:49:02.920
 think

00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:03.060
 it's

00:49:03.060 --> 00:49:03.180
 a

00:49:03.180 --> 00:49:03.360
 great

00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:03.760
 question

00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:03.960
 I

00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:04.140
 think

00:49:04.140 --> 00:49:04.260
 we

00:49:04.260 --> 00:49:04.420
 need

00:49:04.420 --> 00:49:04.540
 to

00:49:04.540 --> 00:49:04.840
 answer

00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:05.040
 it

00:49:05.040 --> 00:49:05.440
 now

00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:06.860
 like

00:49:06.860 --> 00:49:07.520
 what

00:49:07.520 --> 00:49:07.960
 are

00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:08.540
 some

00:49:08.540 --> 00:49:09.400
 things

00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:09.760
 that

00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:10.260
 define

00:49:10.260 --> 00:49:10.480
 a

00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:11.000
 church

00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:11.280
 that

00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:11.680
 all

00:49:11.680 --> 00:49:11.840
 of

00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:12.080
 us

00:49:12.080 --> 00:49:12.220
 who

00:49:12.220 --> 00:49:12.360
 would

00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:12.600
 be

00:49:12.600 --> 00:49:13.000
 leading

00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:13.180
 in

00:49:13.180 --> 00:49:13.320
 the

00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:13.700
 church

00:49:13.700 --> 00:49:14.260
 we

00:49:14.260 --> 00:49:14.520
 have

00:49:14.520 --> 00:49:14.620
 to

00:49:14.620 --> 00:49:14.780
 be

00:49:14.780 --> 00:49:15.000
 heading

00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:15.420
 toward

00:49:15.420 --> 00:49:16.420
 and

00:49:16.420 --> 00:49:17.380
 what

00:49:17.380 --> 00:49:17.640
 so

00:49:17.640 --> 00:49:17.960
 what

00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:18.260
 is

00:49:18.260 --> 00:49:18.460
 a

00:49:18.460 --> 00:49:19.020
 church

00:49:19.020 --> 00:49:19.540
 I

00:49:19.540 --> 00:49:19.700
 mean

00:49:19.700 --> 00:49:19.900
 can

00:49:19.900 --> 00:49:20.040
 a

00:49:20.040 --> 00:49:20.260
 church

00:49:20.260 --> 00:49:20.440
 be

00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:20.560
 a

00:49:20.560 --> 00:49:20.820
 house

00:49:20.820 --> 00:49:21.180
 church

00:49:21.180 --> 00:49:21.600
 sure

00:49:21.600 --> 00:49:21.820
 can

00:49:21.820 --> 00:49:23.740
 a

00:49:23.740 --> 00:49:23.840
 church

00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:24.000
 be

00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:24.140
 a

00:49:24.140 --> 00:49:24.680
 megachurch

00:49:24.680 --> 00:49:25.160
 sure

00:49:25.160 --> 00:49:25.560
 the

00:49:25.560 --> 00:49:25.820
 first

00:49:25.820 --> 00:49:26.100
 church

00:49:26.100 --> 00:49:26.440
 was

00:49:26.440 --> 00:49:26.640
 that

00:49:26.640 --> 00:49:26.780
 we

00:49:26.780 --> 00:49:26.940
 were

00:49:26.940 --> 00:49:27.240
 aware

00:49:27.240 --> 00:49:27.480
 of

00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:27.580
 and

00:49:27.580 --> 00:49:27.940
 asked

00:49:27.940 --> 00:49:28.640
 and

00:49:28.640 --> 00:49:28.960
 so

00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:29.620
 you

00:49:29.620 --> 00:49:29.820
 know

00:49:29.820 --> 00:49:30.720
 what

00:49:30.720 --> 00:49:30.960
 is

00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:31.120
 a

00:49:31.120 --> 00:49:31.500
 church

00:49:31.500 --> 00:49:31.660
 and

00:49:31.660 --> 00:49:31.780
 what

00:49:31.780 --> 00:49:31.860
 are

00:49:31.860 --> 00:49:32.020
 some

00:49:32.020 --> 00:49:32.260
 things

00:49:32.260 --> 00:49:32.400
 that

00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:32.520
 we

00:49:32.520 --> 00:49:32.760
 should

00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:32.920
 be

00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:33.200
 shooting

00:49:33.200 --> 00:49:33.520
 for

00:49:33.520 --> 00:49:33.660
 and

00:49:33.660 --> 00:49:33.780
 what

00:49:33.780 --> 00:49:33.900
 are

00:49:33.900 --> 00:49:34.060
 some

00:49:34.060 --> 00:49:34.240
 things

00:49:34.240 --> 00:49:34.400
 we

00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:34.720
 have

00:49:34.720 --> 00:49:34.840
 to

00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:35.040
 stay

00:49:35.040 --> 00:49:35.320
 away

00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:35.560
 from

00:49:35.560 --> 00:49:36.220
 so

00:49:36.220 --> 00:49:36.800
 I

00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:37.040
 do

00:49:37.040 --> 00:49:37.320
 think

00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:37.520
 some

00:49:37.520 --> 00:49:37.760
 things

00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:37.880
 would

00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:38.000
 be

00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:38.260
 looking

00:49:38.260 --> 00:49:38.540
 very

00:49:38.540 --> 00:49:39.000
 different

00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:39.460
 I

00:49:39.460 --> 00:49:39.680
 mean

00:49:39.680 --> 00:49:41.040
 you

00:49:41.040 --> 00:49:41.260
 know

00:49:41.260 --> 00:49:41.660
 some

00:49:41.660 --> 00:49:41.920
 people

00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:42.140
 would

00:49:42.140 --> 00:49:42.480
 say

00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:42.820
 hey

00:49:42.820 --> 00:49:43.120
 we're

00:49:43.120 --> 00:49:43.280
 not

00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:43.400
 going

00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:43.440
 to

00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:43.580
 be

00:49:43.580 --> 00:49:43.940
 gathering

00:49:43.940 --> 00:49:44.140
 at

00:49:44.140 --> 00:49:44.320
 all

00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:44.540
 like

00:49:44.540 --> 00:49:44.680
 we

00:49:44.680 --> 00:49:44.940
 do

00:49:44.940 --> 00:49:45.600
 on

00:49:45.600 --> 00:49:46.020
 Sundays

00:49:46.020 --> 00:49:46.280
 in

00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:46.840
 buildings

00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:48.680
 20

00:49:48.680 --> 00:49:48.960
 years

00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:49.120
 from

00:49:49.120 --> 00:49:49.360
 now

00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:49.600
 in

00:49:49.600 --> 00:49:50.300
 2042

00:49:50.300 --> 00:49:50.560
 as

00:49:50.560 --> 00:49:50.660
 you

00:49:50.660 --> 00:49:50.920
 said

00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:51.560
 I

00:49:51.560 --> 00:49:51.760
 think

00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:52.000
 that's

00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:52.640
 possible

00:49:52.640 --> 00:49:54.240
 it's

00:49:54.240 --> 00:49:54.520
 happened

00:49:54.520 --> 00:49:54.760
 around

00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:54.940
 the

00:49:54.940 --> 00:49:55.240
 world

00:49:55.240 --> 00:49:55.480
 I

00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:55.660
 think

00:49:55.660 --> 00:49:55.780
 it

00:49:55.780 --> 00:49:55.980
 could

00:49:55.980 --> 00:49:56.260
 happen

00:49:56.260 --> 00:49:56.500
 here

00:49:56.500 --> 00:49:56.660
 but

00:49:56.660 --> 00:49:56.760
 I'm

00:49:56.760 --> 00:49:56.920
 not

00:49:56.920 --> 00:49:57.080
 trying

00:49:57.080 --> 00:49:57.180
 to

00:49:57.180 --> 00:49:57.300
 be

00:49:57.300 --> 00:49:57.980
 doomsday

00:49:57.980 --> 00:49:58.580
 but

00:49:58.580 --> 00:49:58.720
 I

00:49:58.720 --> 00:49:59.100
 do

00:49:59.100 --> 00:49:59.500
 think

00:49:59.500 --> 00:49:59.680
 that

00:49:59.680 --> 00:49:59.840
 our

00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:00.300
 church

00:50:00.300 --> 00:50:00.920
 structure

00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:01.360
 should

00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:01.560
 be

00:50:01.560 --> 00:50:01.940
 set

00:50:01.940 --> 00:50:02.140
 up

00:50:02.140 --> 00:50:02.340
 to

00:50:02.340 --> 00:50:02.820
 endure

00:50:02.820 --> 00:50:03.200
 that

00:50:03.200 --> 00:50:03.940
 I

00:50:03.940 --> 00:50:04.140
 like

00:50:04.140 --> 00:50:04.280
 to

00:50:04.280 --> 00:50:04.480
 say

00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:04.680
 the

00:50:04.680 --> 00:50:04.920
 early

00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:05.260
 church

00:50:05.260 --> 00:50:05.460
 was

00:50:05.460 --> 00:50:05.740
 built

00:50:05.740 --> 00:50:05.980
 to

00:50:05.980 --> 00:50:06.260
 endure

00:50:06.260 --> 00:50:06.920
 persecution

00:50:06.920 --> 00:50:07.440
 and

00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:07.920
 pandemic

00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:09.220
 but

00:50:09.220 --> 00:50:10.580
 the

00:50:10.580 --> 00:50:10.960
 church

00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:11.280
 in

00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:11.700
 America

00:50:11.700 --> 00:50:11.880
 in

00:50:11.880 --> 00:50:12.000
 the

00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:12.320
 West

00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:12.660
 maybe

00:50:12.660 --> 00:50:13.100
 in

00:50:13.100 --> 00:50:13.240
 the

00:50:13.240 --> 00:50:13.500
 Western

00:50:13.500 --> 00:50:13.920
 models

00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:14.060
 of

00:50:14.060 --> 00:50:14.260
 church

00:50:14.260 --> 00:50:14.440
 around

00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:14.600
 the

00:50:14.600 --> 00:50:14.920
 world

00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:15.900
 wasn't

00:50:15.900 --> 00:50:16.140
 built

00:50:16.140 --> 00:50:16.340
 to

00:50:16.340 --> 00:50:16.580
 endure

00:50:16.580 --> 00:50:16.760
 the

00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:17.160
 pandemic

00:50:17.160 --> 00:50:17.780
 I

00:50:17.780 --> 00:50:17.860
 mean

00:50:17.860 --> 00:50:18.100
 that's

00:50:18.100 --> 00:50:18.200
 why

00:50:18.200 --> 00:50:18.460
 most

00:50:18.460 --> 00:50:18.780
 churches

00:50:18.780 --> 00:50:19.080
 have

00:50:19.080 --> 00:50:20.360
 really

00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:20.700
 really

00:50:20.700 --> 00:50:21.220
 struggled

00:50:21.220 --> 00:50:22.020
 and

00:50:22.020 --> 00:50:22.380
 guys

00:50:22.380 --> 00:50:22.580
 are

00:50:22.580 --> 00:50:23.180
 quitting

00:50:23.180 --> 00:50:23.900
 or

00:50:23.900 --> 00:50:24.100
 they're

00:50:24.100 --> 00:50:24.540
 depressed

00:50:24.540 --> 00:50:25.140
 discouraged

00:50:25.140 --> 00:50:25.460
 or

00:50:25.460 --> 00:50:26.180
 addicted

00:50:26.180 --> 00:50:26.600
 to

00:50:26.600 --> 00:50:26.960
 things

00:50:26.960 --> 00:50:27.680
 they've

00:50:27.680 --> 00:50:27.880
 lost

00:50:27.880 --> 00:50:28.080
 their

00:50:28.080 --> 00:50:28.540
 identity

00:50:28.540 --> 00:50:28.760
 their

00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:29.040
 church

00:50:29.040 --> 00:50:29.180
 has

00:50:29.180 --> 00:50:29.380
 lost

00:50:29.380 --> 00:50:29.540
 their

00:50:29.540 --> 00:50:30.780
 function

00:50:30.780 --> 00:50:31.060
 for

00:50:31.060 --> 00:50:31.320
 us

00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:31.440
 it

00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:31.580
 was

00:50:31.580 --> 00:50:32.100
 natural

00:50:32.100 --> 00:50:32.740
 I

00:50:32.740 --> 00:50:33.260
 often

00:50:33.260 --> 00:50:33.540
 say

00:50:33.540 --> 00:50:33.800
 look

00:50:33.800 --> 00:50:34.000
 if

00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:34.340
 our

00:50:34.340 --> 00:50:34.660
 Sunday

00:50:34.660 --> 00:50:34.880
 is

00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:35.140
 taken

00:50:35.140 --> 00:50:35.480
 away

00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:36.340
 great

00:50:36.340 --> 00:50:37.180
 we'll

00:50:37.180 --> 00:50:37.340
 either

00:50:37.340 --> 00:50:37.540
 do

00:50:37.540 --> 00:50:37.620
 it

00:50:37.620 --> 00:50:37.840
 online

00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:38.000
 but

00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:38.700
 all

00:50:38.700 --> 00:50:38.880
 the

00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:39.060
 other

00:50:39.060 --> 00:50:39.480
 functions

00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:39.680
 of

00:50:39.680 --> 00:50:39.840
 our

00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:40.160
 church

00:50:40.160 --> 00:50:40.360
 will

00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:40.840
 continue

00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:42.400
 without

00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:42.660
 a

00:50:42.660 --> 00:50:43.680
 place

00:50:43.680 --> 00:50:44.160
 I

00:50:44.160 --> 00:50:44.540
 don't

00:50:44.540 --> 00:50:44.780
 think

00:50:44.780 --> 00:50:45.960
 gathering

00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:46.440
 together

00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:46.660
 is

00:50:46.660 --> 00:50:47.100
 bad

00:50:47.100 --> 00:50:48.160
 I

00:50:48.160 --> 00:50:48.300
 think

00:50:48.300 --> 00:50:48.460
 it's

00:50:48.460 --> 00:50:48.840
 good

00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:49.760
 and

00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:50.100
 I

00:50:50.100 --> 00:50:50.240
 think

00:50:50.240 --> 00:50:50.360
 we

00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:50.500
 should

00:50:50.500 --> 00:50:50.640
 do

00:50:50.640 --> 00:50:50.740
 it

00:50:50.740 --> 00:50:50.840
 if

00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:50.960
 we

00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:51.300
 can

00:50:51.300 --> 00:50:51.860
 but

00:50:51.860 --> 00:50:52.060
 when

00:50:54.540 --> 00:50:55.220
 I

00:50:55.220 --> 00:50:55.520
 think

00:50:55.520 --> 00:50:55.640
 we

00:50:55.640 --> 00:50:55.780
 have

00:50:55.780 --> 00:50:55.960
 a

00:50:55.960 --> 00:50:56.340
 real

00:50:56.340 --> 00:50:57.020
 problem

00:50:57.020 --> 00:50:57.540
 and

00:50:57.540 --> 00:50:57.800
 so

00:50:57.800 --> 00:50:58.760
 is

00:50:58.760 --> 00:50:59.140
 church

00:50:59.140 --> 00:50:59.300
 going

00:50:59.300 --> 00:50:59.420
 to

00:50:59.420 --> 00:50:59.720
 change

00:50:59.720 --> 00:51:00.280
 yes

00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:01.000
 it

00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:01.300
 is

00:51:01.300 --> 00:51:01.500
 going

00:51:01.500 --> 00:51:01.700
 to

00:51:01.700 --> 00:51:02.080
 change

00:51:02.080 --> 00:51:03.200
 but

00:51:03.200 --> 00:51:03.400
 I

00:51:03.400 --> 00:51:03.580
 do

00:51:03.580 --> 00:51:03.820
 think

00:51:03.820 --> 00:51:04.000
 there

00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:04.180
 are

00:51:04.180 --> 00:51:04.440
 some

00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:05.180
 enduring

00:51:05.180 --> 00:51:05.800
 biblical

00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:06.440
 principles

00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:06.920
 that

00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:07.500
 immediately

00:51:07.500 --> 00:51:07.900
 with

00:51:07.900 --> 00:51:08.020
 the

00:51:08.020 --> 00:51:08.240
 early

00:51:08.240 --> 00:51:08.600
 church

00:51:08.600 --> 00:51:08.760
 I

00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:08.880
 mean

00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:09.040
 it

00:51:09.040 --> 00:51:09.560
 wasn't

00:51:09.560 --> 00:51:09.940
 culture

00:51:09.940 --> 00:51:10.160
 there

00:51:10.160 --> 00:51:10.380
 were

00:51:10.380 --> 00:51:11.080
 there

00:51:11.080 --> 00:51:11.260
 were

00:51:11.260 --> 00:51:11.680
 dozens

00:51:11.680 --> 00:51:11.960
 and

00:51:11.960 --> 00:51:12.240
 dozens

00:51:12.240 --> 00:51:12.520
 of

00:51:12.520 --> 00:51:13.220
 cultures

00:51:13.220 --> 00:51:13.500
 and

00:51:13.500 --> 00:51:14.000
 communities

00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:14.340
 and

00:51:14.340 --> 00:51:14.760
 languages

00:51:14.760 --> 00:51:15.480
 represented

00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:15.840
 in the

00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:16.040
 early

00:51:16.040 --> 00:51:16.540
 church

00:51:16.540 --> 00:51:16.680
 and

00:51:16.680 --> 00:51:16.800
 I

00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:16.940
 think

00:51:16.940 --> 00:51:17.060
 the

00:51:17.060 --> 00:51:17.180
 way

00:51:17.180 --> 00:51:17.320
 they

00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:17.460
 were

00:51:17.460 --> 00:51:17.900
 structured

00:51:17.900 --> 00:51:18.660
 was

00:51:18.660 --> 00:51:19.380
 sent

00:51:19.380 --> 00:51:19.620
 out

00:51:19.620 --> 00:51:19.840
 around

00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:20.040
 the

00:51:20.040 --> 00:51:20.340
 world

00:51:20.340 --> 00:51:20.900
 globally

00:51:20.900 --> 00:51:21.320
 so

00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:21.740
 I

00:51:21.740 --> 00:51:21.940
 don't

00:51:21.940 --> 00:51:22.160
 think

00:51:22.160 --> 00:51:22.260
 it

00:51:22.260 --> 00:51:22.420
 was

00:51:22.420 --> 00:51:23.060
 just

00:51:23.060 --> 00:51:24.180
 the

00:51:24.180 --> 00:51:24.900
 explanation

00:51:24.900 --> 00:51:25.260
 of

00:51:25.260 --> 00:51:25.420
 the

00:51:25.420 --> 00:51:25.800
 gospel

00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:26.020
 that

00:51:26.020 --> 00:51:26.200
 was

00:51:26.200 --> 00:51:26.440
 sent

00:51:26.440 --> 00:51:26.860
 I

00:51:26.860 --> 00:51:27.140
 think

00:51:27.140 --> 00:51:27.340
 the

00:51:27.340 --> 00:51:27.920
 construct

00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:28.220
 of

00:51:28.220 --> 00:51:28.380
 the

00:51:28.380 --> 00:51:28.800
 church

00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:29.040
 was

00:51:29.040 --> 00:51:29.520
 also

00:51:29.520 --> 00:51:29.860
 sent

00:51:29.860 --> 00:51:30.140
 back

00:51:30.140 --> 00:51:30.360
 to

00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:31.060
 Egypt

00:51:31.060 --> 00:51:31.780
 and

00:51:31.780 --> 00:51:32.020
 to

00:51:32.020 --> 00:51:32.460
 Libya

00:51:32.460 --> 00:51:32.900
 and

00:51:32.900 --> 00:51:33.080
 to

00:51:33.080 --> 00:51:33.540
 Spain

00:51:33.540 --> 00:51:33.820
 and

00:51:33.820 --> 00:51:34.120
 wherever

00:51:34.120 --> 00:51:34.600
 people

00:51:34.600 --> 00:51:34.820
 were

00:51:34.820 --> 00:51:35.140
 from

00:51:35.140 --> 00:51:35.320
 in

00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:35.780
 Jerusalem

00:51:35.780 --> 00:51:36.540
 when

00:51:36.540 --> 00:51:36.680
 they

00:51:36.680 --> 00:51:36.920
 got

00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:37.120
 the

00:51:37.120 --> 00:51:37.560
 gospel

00:51:37.560 --> 00:51:38.300
 the

00:51:38.300 --> 00:51:38.900
 way

00:51:38.900 --> 00:51:39.100
 that

00:51:39.100 --> 00:51:39.260
 they

00:51:39.260 --> 00:51:39.760
 gathered

00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:40.220
 was

00:51:40.220 --> 00:51:40.600
 also

00:51:40.600 --> 00:51:40.940
 taken

00:51:40.940 --> 00:51:41.220
 back

00:51:41.220 --> 00:51:41.620
 with

00:51:41.620 --> 00:51:41.900
 them

00:51:41.900 --> 00:51:42.400
 and

00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:42.540
 I

00:51:42.540 --> 00:51:42.780
 think

00:51:42.780 --> 00:51:42.980
 that

00:51:42.980 --> 00:51:43.240
 God

00:51:43.240 --> 00:51:43.500
 was

00:51:43.500 --> 00:51:43.940
 showing

00:51:43.940 --> 00:51:44.320
 them

00:51:44.320 --> 00:51:45.600
 not

00:51:45.600 --> 00:51:45.900
 only

00:51:45.900 --> 00:51:46.980
 discipling

00:51:46.980 --> 00:51:47.160
 them

00:51:47.160 --> 00:51:47.280
 and

00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:47.420
 how

00:51:47.420 --> 00:51:57.500
 to

00:51:57.500 --> 00:51:58.500
 share

00:51:58.500 --> 00:51:59.860
 the

00:51:59.860 --> 00:52:00.340
 gospel

00:52:00.340 --> 00:52:00.740
 and

00:52:00.740 --> 00:52:01.460
 follow

00:52:01.460 --> 00:52:01.860
 him

00:52:01.860 --> 00:52:02.440
 but

00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:02.740
 how

00:52:02.740 --> 00:52:02.980
 to

00:52:02.980 --> 00:52:03.460
 gather

00:52:03.460 --> 00:52:03.840
 as a

00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:04.280
 church

00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:04.680
 and

00:52:04.680 --> 00:52:08.440
 wrestling

00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:08.660
 with

00:52:08.660 --> 00:52:08.840
 that

00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:09.120
 even

00:52:09.120 --> 00:52:09.680
 some

00:52:09.680 --> 00:52:10.300
 of

00:52:10.300 --> 00:52:10.420
 the

00:52:10.420 --> 00:52:10.820
 network

00:52:10.820 --> 00:52:11.260
 things

00:52:11.260 --> 00:52:11.540
 that

00:52:11.540 --> 00:52:12.060
 you've

00:52:12.060 --> 00:52:12.160
 been

00:52:12.160 --> 00:52:12.500
 talking

00:52:12.500 --> 00:52:12.860
 about

00:52:12.860 --> 00:52:13.160
 in

00:52:13.160 --> 00:52:13.420
 that

00:52:13.420 --> 00:52:14.460
 centrality

00:52:14.460 --> 00:52:14.780
 piece

00:52:14.780 --> 00:52:14.940
 these

00:52:14.940 --> 00:52:15.020
 are

00:52:15.020 --> 00:52:15.260
 things

00:52:15.260 --> 00:52:15.420
 that

00:52:15.420 --> 00:52:15.540
 we're

00:52:15.540 --> 00:52:16.140
 wrestling

00:52:16.140 --> 00:52:16.440
 with

00:52:16.440 --> 00:52:16.580
 in

00:52:16.580 --> 00:52:17.000
 real

00:52:17.000 --> 00:52:17.400
 time

00:52:17.400 --> 00:52:18.200
 and

00:52:18.200 --> 00:52:18.380
 even

00:52:18.380 --> 00:52:18.680
 getting

00:52:18.680 --> 00:52:19.300
 insight

00:52:19.300 --> 00:52:19.600
 on

00:52:19.600 --> 00:52:20.040
 how

00:52:20.040 --> 00:52:21.020
 you've

00:52:21.020 --> 00:52:21.180
 been

00:52:21.180 --> 00:52:21.480
 doing

00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:21.800
 this

00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:22.240
 and

00:52:22.240 --> 00:52:23.460
 championing

00:52:23.460 --> 00:52:23.600
 that

00:52:23.600 --> 00:52:23.780
 has

00:52:23.780 --> 00:52:24.000
 been

00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:24.640
 really

00:52:24.640 --> 00:52:25.040
 helpful

00:52:25.040 --> 00:52:25.280
 and

00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:25.540
 I

00:52:25.540 --> 00:52:25.800
 know

00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:26.500
 many

00:52:26.500 --> 00:52:26.640
 in

00:52:26.640 --> 00:52:26.760
 the

00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:27.140
 audience

00:52:27.140 --> 00:52:28.440
 are

00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:28.760
 wrestling

00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:29.000
 with

00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:29.200
 this

00:52:29.200 --> 00:52:29.520
 it's

00:52:29.520 --> 00:52:30.540
 been

00:52:30.540 --> 00:52:34.140
 very

00:52:34.140 --> 00:52:35.280
 surprising

00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:35.600
 to me

00:52:35.600 --> 00:52:35.820
 in the

00:52:35.820 --> 00:52:36.160
 past

00:52:36.160 --> 00:52:36.900
 month

00:52:36.900 --> 00:52:37.720
 how

00:52:37.720 --> 00:52:37.940
 many

00:52:37.940 --> 00:52:38.480
 people

00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:39.020
 that

00:52:39.020 --> 00:52:39.140
 are

00:52:39.140 --> 00:52:39.640
 doing

00:52:39.640 --> 00:52:40.320
 ministry

00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:40.720
 online

00:52:40.720 --> 00:52:41.080
 Jason

00:52:41.080 --> 00:52:41.640
 described

00:52:41.640 --> 00:52:42.100
 to me

00:52:42.100 --> 00:52:42.380
 the way

00:52:42.380 --> 00:52:42.580
 that

00:52:42.580 --> 00:52:42.760
 you

00:52:42.760 --> 00:52:43.040
 were

00:52:43.040 --> 00:52:43.760
 talking

00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:44.100
 about

00:52:44.100 --> 00:52:44.380
 your

00:52:44.380 --> 00:52:44.740
 first

00:52:44.740 --> 00:52:45.160
 months

00:52:45.160 --> 00:52:45.680
 of

00:52:45.680 --> 00:52:46.260
 hey

00:52:46.260 --> 00:52:46.640
 I'm

00:52:46.640 --> 00:52:47.120
 going to

00:52:47.120 --> 00:52:47.260
 get

00:52:47.260 --> 00:52:47.640
 underground

00:52:47.640 --> 00:52:47.980
 I'm

00:52:47.980 --> 00:52:48.140
 going to

00:52:48.140 --> 00:52:48.260
 get

00:52:48.260 --> 00:52:48.680
 away

00:52:48.680 --> 00:52:50.220
 I'm

00:52:50.220 --> 00:52:50.680
 alone

00:52:50.680 --> 00:52:51.100
 in

00:52:51.100 --> 00:52:51.380
 this

00:52:51.380 --> 00:52:51.580
 I'm

00:52:51.580 --> 00:52:51.840
 thinking

00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:52.180
 different

00:52:52.180 --> 00:52:52.360
 than

00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:52.640
 everybody

00:52:52.640 --> 00:52:52.960
 else

00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:53.180
 in the

00:52:53.180 --> 00:52:53.460
 world

00:52:53.460 --> 00:52:53.800
 and I

00:52:53.800 --> 00:52:53.900
 don't

00:52:53.900 --> 00:52:54.080
 have

00:52:54.080 --> 00:52:54.400
 anyone

00:52:54.400 --> 00:52:55.340
 supporting

00:52:55.340 --> 00:52:55.580
 me

00:52:55.580 --> 00:52:56.140
 and seeing

00:52:56.140 --> 00:52:56.600
 how

00:52:56.600 --> 00:52:57.960
 you've

00:52:57.960 --> 00:52:58.220
 built

00:52:58.220 --> 00:52:58.520
 this

00:52:58.520 --> 00:52:59.080
 structure

00:52:59.080 --> 00:52:59.920
 to support

00:52:59.920 --> 00:53:00.900
 people that are

00:53:00.900 --> 00:53:01.620
 thinking that way

00:53:01.620 --> 00:53:02.400
 and it's

00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:03.140
 growing and it's

00:53:03.140 --> 00:53:03.780
 different than

00:53:03.780 --> 00:53:05.280
 the major

00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:06.360
 movement but it's

00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:06.980
 still effective

00:53:06.980 --> 00:53:07.560
 in doing

00:53:07.560 --> 00:53:07.980
 things

00:53:07.980 --> 00:53:08.900
 that's

00:53:08.900 --> 00:53:09.340
 encouraging

00:53:09.340 --> 00:53:10.880
 I'm hoping

00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:11.420
 it's encouraging

00:53:11.420 --> 00:53:12.480
 to those that

00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:12.840
 are out there

00:53:12.840 --> 00:53:13.220
 digitally

00:53:13.220 --> 00:53:13.860
 that are

00:53:13.860 --> 00:53:14.500
 championing

00:53:14.500 --> 00:53:15.080
 the way

00:53:15.080 --> 00:53:15.580
 they are

00:53:15.580 --> 00:53:16.180
 and it's

00:53:16.180 --> 00:53:16.500
 encouraging

00:53:16.500 --> 00:53:16.880
 for me

00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:17.200
 trying to

00:53:17.200 --> 00:53:17.560
 figure out

00:53:17.560 --> 00:53:17.820
 how to

00:53:17.820 --> 00:53:18.220
 build that

00:53:18.220 --> 00:53:18.760
 centrality

00:53:18.760 --> 00:53:19.340
 to help

00:53:19.340 --> 00:53:19.680
 them in

00:53:19.680 --> 00:53:19.880
 that

00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:20.800
 I want

00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:21.080
 to thank

00:53:21.080 --> 00:53:21.280
 you for

00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:21.660
 the time

00:53:21.660 --> 00:53:21.980
 and the

00:53:21.980 --> 00:53:22.520
 conversations

00:53:22.520 --> 00:53:23.060
 and we'll

00:53:23.060 --> 00:53:23.340
 definitely

00:53:23.340 --> 00:53:23.760
 be looking

00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:25.560
 to church

00:53:25.560 --> 00:53:26.060
 project

00:53:26.060 --> 00:53:26.460
 to house

00:53:26.460 --> 00:53:26.700
 church

00:53:26.700 --> 00:53:27.080
 network

00:53:27.080 --> 00:53:27.860
 to so

00:53:27.860 --> 00:53:28.180
 much

00:53:28.180 --> 00:53:28.720
 things

00:53:28.720 --> 00:53:29.320
 that you're

00:53:29.320 --> 00:53:29.720
 building

00:53:29.720 --> 00:53:30.400
 out there

00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:31.500
 towards it

00:53:31.500 --> 00:53:32.220
 but before

00:53:32.220 --> 00:53:32.720
 we wrap it

00:53:32.720 --> 00:53:33.200
 anything else

00:53:33.200 --> 00:53:33.440
 as we're

00:53:33.440 --> 00:53:33.780
 landing the

00:53:33.780 --> 00:53:33.960
 plane

00:53:33.960 --> 00:53:34.680
 thank you

00:53:34.680 --> 00:53:35.100
 for having

00:53:35.100 --> 00:53:35.360
 me

00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:35.740
 Jeff

00:53:35.740 --> 00:53:36.460
 and let

00:53:36.460 --> 00:53:36.980
 me say

00:53:36.980 --> 00:53:37.860
 I actually

00:53:37.860 --> 00:53:38.840
 feel really

00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:39.480
 encouraged

00:53:39.480 --> 00:53:40.620
 too by what

00:53:40.620 --> 00:53:41.100
 you're doing

00:53:41.100 --> 00:53:42.540
 because there's

00:53:42.540 --> 00:53:43.000
 an online

00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:43.860
 world that we

00:53:43.860 --> 00:53:44.480
 haven't even

00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:45.640
 begun to

00:53:45.640 --> 00:53:46.420
 foray into

00:53:46.420 --> 00:53:47.740
 and it's

00:53:47.740 --> 00:53:48.360
 for me

00:53:48.360 --> 00:53:48.980
 overwhelming

00:53:48.980 --> 00:53:50.840
 but I know

00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:51.680
 it's where

00:53:51.680 --> 00:53:52.300
 the church

00:53:52.300 --> 00:53:53.140
 needs to be

00:53:53.140 --> 00:53:54.100
 so the fact

00:53:54.100 --> 00:53:54.960
 that you

00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:55.420
 are leading

00:53:55.420 --> 00:53:56.260
 out in this

00:53:56.260 --> 00:53:57.560
 and gathering

00:53:57.560 --> 00:53:58.220
 other leaders

00:53:58.220 --> 00:53:58.900
 together with

00:53:58.900 --> 00:53:59.160
 this

00:53:59.160 --> 00:53:59.960
 it gives me

00:53:59.960 --> 00:54:00.320
 a lot of

00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:00.740
 confidence

00:54:00.740 --> 00:54:01.420
 for the gospel

00:54:01.420 --> 00:54:02.260
 being spread

00:54:02.260 --> 00:54:03.500
 around the world

00:54:03.500 --> 00:54:04.160
 and the disciples

00:54:04.160 --> 00:54:04.840
 being made

00:54:04.840 --> 00:54:06.020
 and I love

00:54:06.020 --> 00:54:07.620
 your passion

00:54:07.620 --> 00:54:08.920
 for the body

00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:10.020
 and for the gospel

00:54:10.020 --> 00:54:10.800
 I love

00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:12.140
 the clarity

00:54:12.140 --> 00:54:12.960
 that you have

00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:13.540
 and that you're

00:54:13.540 --> 00:54:13.940
 pursuing

00:54:13.940 --> 00:54:14.980
 and I love

00:54:14.980 --> 00:54:16.780
 the elevated

00:54:16.780 --> 00:54:17.380
 importance

00:54:17.380 --> 00:54:19.100
 that I hear

00:54:19.100 --> 00:54:19.800
 from you

00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:21.480
 of what we

00:54:21.480 --> 00:54:21.880
 need to be

00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:22.740
 doing to

00:54:22.740 --> 00:54:23.840
 distribute

00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:24.320
 leadership

00:54:24.320 --> 00:54:25.300
 but also

00:54:25.300 --> 00:54:25.800
 what kind

00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:26.580
 of centralization

00:54:26.580 --> 00:54:27.140
 do we need

00:54:27.140 --> 00:54:27.860
 even online

00:54:27.860 --> 00:54:28.820
 I love it

00:54:28.820 --> 00:54:29.720
 and I don't

00:54:29.720 --> 00:54:30.060
 think it's

00:54:30.060 --> 00:54:30.560
 going to take

00:54:30.560 --> 00:54:31.000
 as long

00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:31.280
 as your

00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:31.820
 friend said

00:54:31.820 --> 00:54:32.700
 I don't

00:54:32.700 --> 00:54:32.980
 think it

00:54:32.980 --> 00:54:33.380
 can

00:54:33.380 --> 00:54:34.100
 but I

00:54:34.100 --> 00:54:34.620
 actually

00:54:34.620 --> 00:54:35.260
 I think

00:54:35.260 --> 00:54:35.620
 we need

00:54:35.620 --> 00:54:36.100
 it sooner

00:54:36.100 --> 00:54:36.860
 but I

00:54:36.860 --> 00:54:37.320
 think

00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:38.480
 even from

00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:38.960
 the questions

00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:39.300
 that you

00:54:39.300 --> 00:54:39.600
 guys are

00:54:39.600 --> 00:54:40.020
 asking

00:54:40.020 --> 00:54:40.480
 the things

00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:40.740
 that you're

00:54:40.740 --> 00:54:40.920
 already

00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:41.380
 doing

00:54:41.380 --> 00:54:42.100
 I think

00:54:42.100 --> 00:54:42.380
 it's

00:54:42.380 --> 00:54:42.660
 going to

00:54:42.660 --> 00:54:42.880
 happen

00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:43.220
 sooner

00:54:43.220 --> 00:54:43.740
 than later

00:54:43.740 --> 00:54:44.640
 and I'm

00:54:44.640 --> 00:54:45.400
 really excited

00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:46.080
 to see

00:54:46.080 --> 00:54:46.700
 the

00:54:46.700 --> 00:54:48.840
 these elements

00:54:48.840 --> 00:54:49.660
 that you're

00:54:49.660 --> 00:54:50.140
 pursuing

00:54:50.140 --> 00:54:51.280
 putting together

00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:51.960
 in the beautiful

00:54:51.960 --> 00:54:52.640
 mystery of

00:54:52.640 --> 00:54:53.060
 online

00:54:53.060 --> 00:54:53.800
 I can't

00:54:53.800 --> 00:54:54.120
 wait to

00:54:54.120 --> 00:54:54.500
 see it

00:54:54.500 --> 00:54:55.620
 so I'm

00:54:55.620 --> 00:54:55.940
 encouraged

00:54:55.940 --> 00:54:56.460
 by you

00:54:56.460 --> 00:54:56.780
 I'm

00:54:56.780 --> 00:54:57.180
 following

00:54:57.180 --> 00:54:57.640
 you

00:54:57.640 --> 00:54:58.220
 I want

00:54:58.220 --> 00:54:58.520
 to link

00:54:58.520 --> 00:54:58.900
 up together

00:54:58.900 --> 00:54:59.520
 more with

00:54:59.520 --> 00:54:59.820
 you and

00:54:59.820 --> 00:55:00.120
 what you're

00:55:00.120 --> 00:55:00.420
 doing

00:55:00.420 --> 00:55:01.700
 because I

00:55:01.700 --> 00:55:01.860
 think

00:55:01.860 --> 00:55:02.100
 there's

00:55:02.100 --> 00:55:02.440
 got to

00:55:02.440 --> 00:55:02.760
 be some

00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:03.300
 partnership

00:55:03.300 --> 00:55:03.940
 there

00:55:03.940 --> 00:55:04.340
 and

00:55:04.340 --> 00:55:05.580
 what you're

00:55:05.580 --> 00:55:05.840
 doing

00:55:05.840 --> 00:55:06.240
 we need

00:55:06.240 --> 00:55:06.540
 to learn

00:55:06.540 --> 00:55:06.940
 from you

00:55:06.940 --> 00:55:07.540
 so thanks

00:55:07.540 --> 00:55:08.200
 for leading

00:55:08.200 --> 00:55:08.500
 out

00:55:08.500 --> 00:55:08.880
 thanks for

00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:09.400
 inviting me

00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:09.720
 here

00:55:09.720 --> 00:55:10.860
 and thanks

00:55:10.860 --> 00:55:11.700
 for risking

00:55:11.700 --> 00:55:12.080
 your life

00:55:12.080 --> 00:55:12.320
 for the

00:55:12.320 --> 00:55:12.620
 gospel

00:55:12.620 --> 00:55:12.960
 like you

00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:13.140
 do

00:55:13.140 --> 00:55:13.600
 nobody

00:55:13.600 --> 00:55:14.000
 killed me

00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:14.220
 okay

00:55:14.220 --> 00:55:14.740
 but I

00:55:14.740 --> 00:55:15.020
 do

00:55:15.020 --> 00:55:15.360
 appreciate

00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:15.740
 that

00:55:15.740 --> 00:55:16.580
 very much

00:55:16.580 --> 00:55:16.900
 thank you

00:55:16.900 --> 00:55:17.120
 Jason

00:55:17.120 --> 00:55:17.480
 hey so

00:55:17.480 --> 00:55:17.740
 we're

00:55:17.740 --> 00:55:17.880
 going to

00:55:17.880 --> 00:55:18.140
 land the

00:55:18.140 --> 00:55:18.400
 plane

00:55:18.400 --> 00:55:19.500
 for

00:55:19.500 --> 00:55:20.000
 Jason

00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:20.300
 this is

00:55:20.300 --> 00:55:20.520
 Jeff

00:55:20.520 --> 00:55:21.000
 with

00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:21.200
 the

00:55:21.200 --> 00:55:21.480
 church

00:55:21.480 --> 00:55:22.000
 digital

00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:22.520
 and

00:55:22.520 --> 00:55:22.780
 digital

00:55:22.780 --> 00:55:23.060
 church

00:55:23.060 --> 00:55:23.380
 network

00:55:23.380 --> 00:55:23.760
 thanks

00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:24.200
 for joining

00:55:24.200 --> 00:55:24.680
 audience

00:55:24.680 --> 00:55:25.140
 out there

00:55:25.140 --> 00:55:25.900
 and we'll

00:55:25.900 --> 00:55:26.120
 see you

00:55:26.120 --> 00:55:26.540
 next time

00:55:26.540 --> 00:55:27.480
 here at the podcast.

00:55:27.600 --> 00:55:28.040
 Y'all have a good day.