WEBVTT 00:00:00.960 --> 00:00:04.840 Content without community, it leads to consumerism. 00:00:04.980 --> 00:00:06.560 Welcome to the Church Digital Podcast. 00:00:07.320 --> 00:00:11.340 Through this podcast, we'll talk about the technological innovations within the church. 00:00:11.600 --> 00:00:15.760 But more than TED for Tech itself, we'll address deeper questions. 00:00:16.660 --> 00:00:18.540 Is disciple-making possible digitally? 00:00:19.360 --> 00:00:21.540 How should we approach the digital mission field? 00:00:22.260 --> 00:00:25.080 Can a biblically grounded church operate in digital space? 00:00:25.820 --> 00:00:28.120 Oh, and where does the metaverse fit into all this? 00:00:28.660 --> 00:00:33.120 Whether you're a big or small church, an established church, or a startup church plant, 00:00:33.860 --> 00:00:38.760 the Church Digital's goal is to help churches like yours learn to be a multiplying church, 00:00:39.380 --> 00:00:40.760 digitally and physically. 00:00:41.620 --> 00:00:42.240 Our heart? 00:00:42.720 --> 00:00:47.660 That churches like yours will discover a newfound focus on disciple-making that will revolutionize 00:00:47.660 --> 00:00:48.420 your church. 00:00:49.100 --> 00:00:51.740 And now, here's your host, Jeff Reed. 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:54.360 All right, hey, welcome. 00:00:54.560 --> 00:00:55.620 Glad y'all are here. 00:00:55.620 --> 00:00:58.800 This is the State of the Digital Church Address. 00:00:59.000 --> 00:01:01.720 Yeah, that may be a little egotistical, but hey, we're having fun, right? 00:01:02.040 --> 00:01:03.080 Hey, my name is Jeff. 00:01:03.140 --> 00:01:06.880 I'm with the Church Digital and a whole bunch of other organizations. 00:01:06.880 --> 00:01:11.680 And I'm excited to be here with you today for the State of the Digital Church Address. 00:01:12.120 --> 00:01:14.020 I got to tell you, today's March 3rd. 00:01:14.020 --> 00:01:15.240 By the way, we're doing this broadcast. 00:01:15.580 --> 00:01:18.260 It'll hit the podcast at some point later on. 00:01:18.260 --> 00:01:22.360 But I'm excited to join here in this stream and to be with you today. 00:01:22.440 --> 00:01:26.720 By the way, we're kicking off Season 3 of the Church Digital podcast. 00:01:27.100 --> 00:01:32.320 And we'll get into later on, really, the core components of what we're trying to cover here 00:01:32.320 --> 00:01:34.520 with Season 3 and the podcast. 00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:36.980 But myself, my name is Jeff Digital. 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:38.600 Jeff Reed, that's funny. 00:01:39.060 --> 00:01:41.400 And in part of that, I work with the Church Digital. 00:01:41.520 --> 00:01:45.420 I founded an organization called Church Digital, founded an organization called Digital Church 00:01:45.420 --> 00:01:45.720 Network. 00:01:46.760 --> 00:01:51.920 I'm director of Metaverse Church for Leadership Network. 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:55.320 I am a digital strategist for New Thing Network. 00:01:55.840 --> 00:01:59.100 And honestly, I just keep talking on and on. 00:01:59.160 --> 00:02:02.260 A friend of mine joked with me the other day, hey, Jeff, you have so many jobs. 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:06.100 Like, your business card has officially become an 8 1⁄2 by 11 sheet of paper. 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:07.900 And dude was right. 00:02:08.020 --> 00:02:10.820 And that's actually really kind of funny. 00:02:10.960 --> 00:02:12.880 So here, let me boil it down. 00:02:12.960 --> 00:02:16.840 Man, I am really excited about the idea of a digital church. 00:02:16.900 --> 00:02:21.040 And that's really why I wanted to join y'all to join me to jump on this conversation while 00:02:21.040 --> 00:02:25.180 we're talking about the idea of digital expressions of church. 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:31.340 Now, when I say digital and when I say metaverse expressions of church, I'm talking about an established 00:02:31.340 --> 00:02:34.220 church that's going into the digital or the metaverse state. 00:02:34.220 --> 00:02:40.400 I'm also talking about individuals that are planting churches in the digital and in the metaverse 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:40.900 environments. 00:02:40.900 --> 00:02:46.140 And really, as I've got my convenient little AirPods here, this is two sides of the same 00:02:46.140 --> 00:02:46.280 coin. 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:51.140 Yes, there are nuances when it comes towards planting a digital expression of a church. 00:02:51.140 --> 00:02:54.620 And yeah, there are nuances when you're an established church that's trying to get into 00:02:54.620 --> 00:02:55.620 the metaverse. 00:02:55.700 --> 00:03:00.640 And those contextualizations, really focusing on them allows you to have success as you better 00:03:00.640 --> 00:03:03.380 understand your strengths and weaknesses in that space. 00:03:03.380 --> 00:03:11.180 But really, my heart in all of this is simply put to have a heart for the innovator, for the 00:03:11.180 --> 00:03:11.620 pioneer. 00:03:11.960 --> 00:03:14.380 And let's call it up front, the humble disruptor. 00:03:15.140 --> 00:03:21.020 Yeah, listen, we are people that are championing and doing this in the digital and the meta spaces. 00:03:21.300 --> 00:03:22.800 We are disruptors. 00:03:22.920 --> 00:03:27.040 We are disrupting what's happening within the established church organization. 00:03:27.040 --> 00:03:33.880 But even more than that, there's an opportunity for us not to be jerks about it, but to be 00:03:33.880 --> 00:03:39.740 humble in that and recognize that the established models have a purpose as well. 00:03:40.160 --> 00:03:45.800 What we are doing is we're doing this to utilize different types of people in a different type 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:51.180 of discipleship format, in a different type of environment, to reach a different type of person. 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:54.180 And so all of that comes together beautifully. 00:03:54.580 --> 00:03:56.340 So here's what we're doing. 00:03:57.620 --> 00:04:04.400 We are, we have been here at the Church Digital, we have always been good at content. 00:04:05.160 --> 00:04:06.500 It's just been a fact. 00:04:06.640 --> 00:04:12.620 We know how to do content really well between the blogs, between the podcasts, between the 00:04:12.620 --> 00:04:16.060 the live shows, between the e-books, and everything else. 00:04:16.400 --> 00:04:22.220 We, the Church Digital, have been very, very good at creating content. 00:04:22.560 --> 00:04:27.860 But the fact is, is that we've really, we've fallen short in some areas, and this is open 00:04:27.860 --> 00:04:29.900 confession hour, and we're not going to go that long. 00:04:30.300 --> 00:04:34.580 But we've fallen short when it came to the community aspect. 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:38.320 Historically, we've never really set a good example for the community. 00:04:38.480 --> 00:04:42.560 Yeah, we've run the Facebook groups, and we've done things like that in the past. 00:04:42.620 --> 00:04:49.040 But honestly, I don't think that is as successful as it could be. 00:04:49.420 --> 00:04:51.160 Facebook, you're struggling with the algorithms. 00:04:51.320 --> 00:04:55.080 People are walking away from Facebook, it seems, in droves at this moment. 00:04:55.220 --> 00:04:57.380 And so that's not necessarily a good experience. 00:04:57.820 --> 00:05:02.240 And then there's plenty of other issues that are surrounding the Facebook. 00:05:02.900 --> 00:05:08.260 But listen, this is really the challenge for the church, the Big C Church in general, 00:05:08.340 --> 00:05:10.380 as it's trying to understand digital. 00:05:10.660 --> 00:05:15.820 Because the heart of this is, without content, with content, we're all good at. 00:05:16.320 --> 00:05:19.460 Like, people create content every Sunday. 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:22.140 But the content is not good. 00:05:22.580 --> 00:05:25.700 It doesn't have a purpose unless it leads to community. 00:05:25.840 --> 00:05:27.600 And so, you know, we're going to get into that here in a little bit. 00:05:27.820 --> 00:05:31.260 So, hey, today we're running an experiment on community. 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:36.480 We are broadcasting this live into a platform called AlterLive. 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:39.980 And if you've never heard of AlterLive, if you've never seen it before, look at it. 00:05:39.980 --> 00:05:40.820 This is how I tell people. 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:46.040 If, like, Church Online platform and Zoom, if they had a baby, they got together, they dated, 00:05:46.440 --> 00:05:49.920 decided to get married, have a baby, it would be AlterLive. 00:05:49.980 --> 00:05:54.740 It is this beautiful merger and a platform to broadcast content, 00:05:54.940 --> 00:06:01.520 but also to allow for face-to-face conversation engaging, happening at the same time. 00:06:01.520 --> 00:06:09.300 So, literally right now, we are broadcasting this into AlterLive, assuming all my tech works, 00:06:09.640 --> 00:06:11.940 which maybe it doesn't, and I'm getting texts. 00:06:12.020 --> 00:06:13.460 I'm not sure what's happening right now. 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:20.840 And so, right now, if you were to go to thechurch.alterlive.com, you can jump in, 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:27.260 thechurchdigital.alterlive.com, you can jump into a community that's happening there in this space 00:06:27.260 --> 00:06:28.380 and be a part of it. 00:06:28.460 --> 00:06:32.500 Would love, would love to have you in that conversation. 00:06:32.980 --> 00:06:40.180 Because the part of this is that content without community, it leads to consumerism. 00:06:40.180 --> 00:06:45.160 Now, we can ingest content all along, but community, and we'll get into this, 00:06:45.220 --> 00:06:49.120 community is where all of this starts to get to application. 00:06:49.500 --> 00:06:51.160 It starts to get to accountability. 00:06:51.640 --> 00:06:56.620 It starts to get to encouragement, where I'm not running by myself. 00:06:56.620 --> 00:07:00.560 I'm running with people that are encouraging me within the community. 00:07:00.980 --> 00:07:03.200 I'm not living a Christian life in isolation. 00:07:03.200 --> 00:07:09.260 I'm living a Christian life knee-to-knee, digital knee-to-knee, meta-knee-to-knee, 00:07:09.260 --> 00:07:11.200 with other people. 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:17.460 And so, this is really the challenge of our churches, is not just to create content. 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:20.340 We're really good at creating content. 00:07:20.900 --> 00:07:28.320 The challenge is, is can we create a community, a network maybe, to gather people and to connect 00:07:28.320 --> 00:07:32.900 these people together to allow for the encouragement that needs to happen. 00:07:33.400 --> 00:07:35.080 This is all based off of a premise. 00:07:35.080 --> 00:07:39.920 Jay Cranda is getting a shout-out here at this moment, online to offline. 00:07:40.020 --> 00:07:45.220 The gospel that we hear in our online world, it has to influence our offline relationships. 00:07:45.640 --> 00:07:51.000 If it doesn't, then we are basically creating consumers. 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:56.160 If we are one way digitally and another way physically. 00:07:56.160 --> 00:08:02.060 If I am a Christian and I'm exuding the spiritual gifts in digital space, but in physical space, 00:08:02.540 --> 00:08:06.480 I'm abusive to my wife, I'm verbally abusive to my kids, I'm stealing from my workplace. 00:08:06.960 --> 00:08:10.820 I mean, you're using words like hypocrite to describe me. 00:08:11.320 --> 00:08:15.720 And so, in this online to offline philosophy, we want to see that happen. 00:08:16.020 --> 00:08:22.340 But also realize, once again, that community is where the accountability comes from. 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:24.820 But hey, maybe I'm digressing here a little bit. 00:08:24.880 --> 00:08:28.380 The state of the digital church, February, where are we? 00:08:28.460 --> 00:08:30.060 March 3rd, 2022. 00:08:30.460 --> 00:08:32.720 I got to tell you, I have never been more encouraged. 00:08:32.880 --> 00:08:36.220 I have never been more excited than where we are right now. 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:37.580 And I want to give you the secret. 00:08:37.680 --> 00:08:40.760 I want to give you the tip right here, person out there that's listening. 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:45.320 Digital Church Network, we launched an online community called FAM. 00:08:45.860 --> 00:08:51.820 At this moment right now, there are 300 digitally-minded people. 00:08:51.940 --> 00:08:55.580 Some of them are pastors, some of them are lay people, some of them are supporters, some 00:08:55.580 --> 00:08:59.700 of them are disciple makers, some of them are network and organizational leaders. 00:08:59.700 --> 00:09:05.560 There are 300 people in a mighty network, if you're familiar with it, but in an online community 00:09:05.560 --> 00:09:09.140 that we're calling through the Digital Church Network, we're calling FAM. 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:17.100 And this is a great expression, experience of community, because I have been able to encourage 00:09:17.100 --> 00:09:17.460 others. 00:09:17.620 --> 00:09:19.220 Others have been able to encourage me. 00:09:19.580 --> 00:09:24.260 I tell people it's almost like we all have the Pauls, the people that have been there and 00:09:24.260 --> 00:09:28.200 that are helping us to get to where we are called to go. 00:09:28.280 --> 00:09:33.520 But at the same time, we all have Timothys, people that we are encouraging as well and bringing 00:09:33.520 --> 00:09:35.740 up to that higher level. 00:09:35.740 --> 00:09:40.160 Now, you see, through the Church Digital and all these blogs and podcasts, my gosh, we 00:09:40.160 --> 00:09:45.800 just came out with network shows and all this, a podcast network, our traffic has gone up 00:09:45.800 --> 00:09:47.620 a huge amount in 22. 00:09:47.740 --> 00:09:49.540 It's been a great year. 00:09:50.180 --> 00:09:55.880 And so we've got this community, and part of what we're doing, I'll be honest, we're centering 00:09:55.880 --> 00:09:58.420 the community around the content. 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:06.540 So the Church Digital Podcast and some of the other network shows that we are bringing on, we are 00:10:06.540 --> 00:10:13.060 going to start to broadcast those live weekly this month, where you are going to get multiple 00:10:13.060 --> 00:10:18.000 shows live through FAM, utilizing the AlterLive platform. 00:10:18.100 --> 00:10:22.080 Now, the thing that I love about AlterLive is at the end of this broadcast, I'm going to stop 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:22.520 talking. 00:10:22.920 --> 00:10:28.720 And we're going to let the people within AlterLive start to talk with each other and process and 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:29.800 apply and learn this. 00:10:30.100 --> 00:10:35.440 You see, like, the stuff that I'm coming out, if it doesn't help you apply and do something, 00:10:35.660 --> 00:10:39.280 then we're all just creating consumers and we're wasting our time. 00:10:39.540 --> 00:10:44.720 The purpose is to get you on motion and doing things in digital and meta spaces. 00:10:44.960 --> 00:10:49.500 So we're utilizing the content to create that community. 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:53.200 By the way, and we're just a quick shout out here, we're starting a new show. 00:10:53.880 --> 00:10:56.900 Digital ministry doesn't have to be weird. 00:10:57.300 --> 00:11:02.940 And I got to tell you, I love this graphic, the dinosaur on his phone, who's got the trendy 00:11:02.940 --> 00:11:09.280 tattoo on his forearm, plugging away with his headphones on, oblivious to the world around 00:11:09.280 --> 00:11:09.440 him. 00:11:09.800 --> 00:11:12.920 That message in itself can speak a sermon. 00:11:13.140 --> 00:11:17.380 I could go on for an hour talking about that graphic, but we're going to move on. 00:11:17.620 --> 00:11:19.360 You're going to hear more about digital ministry. 00:11:19.440 --> 00:11:20.340 It doesn't have to be weird. 00:11:20.640 --> 00:11:23.760 And a lot of our other network shows here through the Church Digital, we're going to be kicking 00:11:23.760 --> 00:11:26.860 that up here in a little bit. 00:11:27.360 --> 00:11:30.620 So content centered or community centered around content is one thing. 00:11:31.020 --> 00:11:34.800 But what we're also starting to pull the thread on through the Digital Church Network tied 00:11:34.800 --> 00:11:41.320 into FAM here is this idea that community centered around roundtables, learnings, essentially 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:41.740 trainings. 00:11:41.920 --> 00:11:46.360 We're going to start creating community centered around trainings. 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:54.040 Now, what is so much fun for me right now are talking to people that have ideas about 00:11:54.040 --> 00:11:58.180 what they want to do in Digital Church, but they have no idea how to get started. 00:11:58.300 --> 00:12:00.220 They don't know who they need to talk to. 00:12:00.300 --> 00:12:02.140 They don't know how to recruit the people. 00:12:02.260 --> 00:12:03.920 They don't know how to fundraise for this. 00:12:04.260 --> 00:12:09.420 They've got this beautiful idea that they are jacked up and excited about, but they just 00:12:09.420 --> 00:12:11.580 don't know how to get started. 00:12:12.180 --> 00:12:19.200 And so through FAM, through the Digital Church Network, we are focusing in on creating roundtable 00:12:19.200 --> 00:12:24.400 discussions where we're bringing in ministry experts to ask questions to learn from. 00:12:24.700 --> 00:12:31.780 We're bringing in other learnings and resources, even training centers to allow for the network, 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:37.920 people that are part of the FAM, to learn how to take the next steps they need to. 00:12:38.140 --> 00:12:45.600 And within the community, start to understand how to apply that to what they want to do, 00:12:45.700 --> 00:12:47.740 to their ministry, to their lives. 00:12:48.400 --> 00:12:50.060 So once again, it's not about the content. 00:12:50.180 --> 00:12:51.580 It's not about learning this stuff. 00:12:51.700 --> 00:12:55.840 It's about helping you apply it and move forward. 00:12:56.000 --> 00:13:00.940 And that's where community comes in, because community is the, once again, the accountability, 00:13:01.220 --> 00:13:03.800 the encouragement, the things that we need to do to move forward. 00:13:04.120 --> 00:13:08.240 By the way, some of the recent and upcoming trainings that we've got going on here, we did 00:13:08.240 --> 00:13:13.460 a VR platform with Pastor Brock and, I don't know, maybe five or six other people this week, 00:13:13.520 --> 00:13:14.940 last Monday night, a couple of nights ago. 00:13:15.260 --> 00:13:15.940 And it was great. 00:13:16.040 --> 00:13:19.220 We had 20-some people showing up, learning about VR platforms. 00:13:19.220 --> 00:13:25.020 And I think we're actually going to spin up a network of VR church plants to kind of help, 00:13:25.080 --> 00:13:30.360 once again, creating some community, creating a network and applying to that. 00:13:30.760 --> 00:13:33.140 We're doing an emotionally healthy discipleship. 00:13:33.220 --> 00:13:35.100 Chris Caputo is leading that on. 00:13:35.160 --> 00:13:36.540 He's doing that early next week. 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:38.980 Disciple-making movements with Rob Wagner. 00:13:39.100 --> 00:13:42.800 How to do this disciple-making, how to do this multiplication digitally. 00:13:42.940 --> 00:13:48.020 Rob's going to be speaking on this here in a couple weeks, March 14th, somewhere around there. 00:13:48.020 --> 00:13:54.160 So, look, we're seeing where we're providing these training opportunities, community centered 00:13:54.160 --> 00:13:56.640 around training, which is beautiful. 00:13:57.160 --> 00:13:59.380 We want to create community around content. 00:13:59.680 --> 00:14:04.080 We want to, more in addition than just the content, we want to create community around 00:14:04.080 --> 00:14:04.800 the trainings. 00:14:05.220 --> 00:14:09.680 But the third thing, and I've already said it, teased it, community, we want to be part 00:14:09.680 --> 00:14:14.160 of encouragement, accountability, prayer, and basically ongoing support. 00:14:14.480 --> 00:14:20.240 You see, when you create a community in digital space, you're giving an opportunity for ongoing 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:23.620 support, for crowdsourcing that long term. 00:14:23.740 --> 00:14:28.340 I don't need to be able to handle a hundred conversations. 00:14:28.620 --> 00:14:33.240 I need to equip a community to be able to have those hundred conversations for me. 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:39.380 Yes, there are some things that only I can do, but there's a whole bunch of other things that 00:14:39.380 --> 00:14:40.300 others can do. 00:14:40.360 --> 00:14:45.540 And if we can figure out that, where community can support a movement, my gosh, the scalability 00:14:45.540 --> 00:14:46.800 and the grow and reach of this. 00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:48.940 Maybe wrestle with some of that of your church. 00:14:49.200 --> 00:14:54.580 How can you equip your community to support a disciple-making movement so that your leadership 00:14:54.580 --> 00:14:55.880 doesn't have to? 00:14:56.380 --> 00:15:00.480 How can you release those people to, maybe you're starting to see a parallel, even in 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:02.860 context of your own church. 00:15:03.500 --> 00:15:07.620 At the heart of this, all of this content, the events, the training, it all goes for not 00:15:07.620 --> 00:15:12.360 without the encouragement, without the accountability of community. 00:15:12.720 --> 00:15:15.980 If we are not applying the stuff that we're talking about, that we're reading, that we're 00:15:15.980 --> 00:15:19.120 learning, if our leaders are not understanding that, then we're all wasting our times. 00:15:19.220 --> 00:15:24.040 And there are better things that you can do with your time than listen to me ramble on 00:15:24.040 --> 00:15:29.280 and on about something that is not helping you in your present expression, your present 00:15:29.280 --> 00:15:30.220 church experience. 00:15:30.500 --> 00:15:35.980 So let's figure out within the community how to take those steps, how to help leadership 00:15:35.980 --> 00:15:42.540 understand better, how to recruit the volunteers, how to fundraise, how to develop the strategy, 00:15:42.740 --> 00:15:45.980 how to develop goals and benchmarks to go to. 00:15:45.980 --> 00:15:50.740 There is so much centered around this family. 00:15:51.420 --> 00:15:53.880 And this family is what I want to invite you into. 00:15:53.980 --> 00:15:54.720 We were intentional. 00:15:55.060 --> 00:15:56.120 I've said the word fam. 00:15:56.240 --> 00:15:59.560 This network, this community we've created, we've called fam. 00:15:59.700 --> 00:16:02.200 Because for many of us, we were isolated. 00:16:02.380 --> 00:16:03.200 We were alone. 00:16:03.700 --> 00:16:05.940 There was nobody who was thinking like us. 00:16:06.020 --> 00:16:08.240 At least in my life, I can say that's true. 00:16:08.560 --> 00:16:14.500 And the dozens of people that I've talked with just this week echo what I've just said. 00:16:14.500 --> 00:16:20.800 And so there's this huge opportunity for belonging, to connect with people who think like you 00:16:20.800 --> 00:16:24.600 are, who are excited about the things that you're excited about, and who can help the ideas 00:16:24.600 --> 00:16:28.200 that you have become better through encouragement and through accountability. 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:32.260 And so for us, we've launched Digital Church Networks fam. 00:16:32.380 --> 00:16:35.880 Now, this is the core of what's encouraged me. 00:16:35.940 --> 00:16:37.920 And I'm hoping it's going to do the same thing for you. 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:42.980 Swing over to Digital Church Network slash join fam. 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:46.220 You can see the spelling on the screen if you're watching on YouTube or on the stream. 00:16:46.460 --> 00:16:52.680 Podcast listeners, digitalchurch.network, J-O-I-N-F-A-M, no spaces. 00:16:53.240 --> 00:16:57.200 So this is going to get you directly to create the account to be part of it. 00:16:57.540 --> 00:17:01.500 By the way, all of this is free. 00:17:02.140 --> 00:17:07.300 The network, the accountability, the roundtables, the live shows. 00:17:08.280 --> 00:17:09.020 Look, I'll be honest. 00:17:09.080 --> 00:17:13.560 I'm not sure how we're going to make money on this, but we're not going to charge disciple 00:17:13.560 --> 00:17:15.460 making and training and information. 00:17:15.600 --> 00:17:16.680 Information is free. 00:17:17.340 --> 00:17:23.180 Execution cost, which is the joy of doing it in fam, because by getting some of that 00:17:23.180 --> 00:17:28.460 execution help within fam, once again, it's budget conscious and able to crowdsource it 00:17:28.460 --> 00:17:30.660 so that we don't have to charge for it. 00:17:30.980 --> 00:17:33.020 We want to help scale movements. 00:17:33.640 --> 00:17:40.400 And we believe in many ways that this fam, this family, this online community is going 00:17:40.400 --> 00:17:41.420 to be the source of it. 00:17:41.780 --> 00:17:47.080 So the state of the Digital Church, man, get the encouragement you're looking for at Digital 00:17:47.080 --> 00:17:50.400 Church dot network slash join fam. 00:17:50.600 --> 00:17:52.980 I have said it many times to many people already. 00:17:53.500 --> 00:17:54.840 300 plus are in there. 00:17:55.000 --> 00:18:01.760 The best asset that I know of right now to help see digital churches and digital ministries 00:18:01.760 --> 00:18:08.060 expand is happening right there in Digital Church Network slash join fam. 00:18:08.300 --> 00:18:13.880 So I would encourage you to do that, to be a part of what's happening there in the fam 00:18:13.880 --> 00:18:16.100 online community. 00:18:16.820 --> 00:18:20.240 Hey, well, listen, if you want to jump in, we're going to swing over to like this application 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:24.400 part, and we're going to talk within Altar Live. 00:18:24.660 --> 00:18:29.460 And so if you want to go and jump over to the churchdigital.altarlive.com. 00:18:29.920 --> 00:18:32.320 If you're listening on podcast, dude, you're not live. 00:18:32.540 --> 00:18:34.320 Sorry, lady, it's not happening. 00:18:34.740 --> 00:18:36.060 Maybe catch the live show. 00:18:36.140 --> 00:18:38.000 Some of the stuff we'll talk about later. 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:42.060 But what we want to do is if you're in that area, man, let's break up into some lobbies. 00:18:42.140 --> 00:18:44.780 We're going to send you out here in a minute once I'm done talking. 00:18:44.980 --> 00:18:49.260 But essentially, the questions that we want you to ask is, how are you encouraged right 00:18:49.260 --> 00:18:49.920 now in your ministry? 00:18:50.760 --> 00:18:52.980 What is going great in 22? 00:18:53.740 --> 00:18:55.820 And how are you discouraged? 00:18:56.320 --> 00:18:57.680 So you're going to go to tables. 00:18:58.060 --> 00:19:00.260 You're going to see they're going to send you out into the lobby. 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:01.260 There's little icons. 00:19:01.400 --> 00:19:03.860 You can click on to join, sit down at a table. 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:05.920 Others will sit down with you. 00:19:06.160 --> 00:19:09.900 But the heart of this is we want to have conversations right now. 00:19:10.180 --> 00:19:13.300 We want the content that I've done to lead to community. 00:19:13.800 --> 00:19:16.240 And so if you're in Altar Live, awesome. 00:19:16.380 --> 00:19:20.200 If you're not in Altar Live and you're watching this online, great. 00:19:20.880 --> 00:19:21.960 Swing over to Altar Live. 00:19:22.380 --> 00:19:22.720 Jump in. 00:19:22.780 --> 00:19:23.640 Be part of the community. 00:19:24.340 --> 00:19:26.740 How are you encouraged right now in your ministry? 00:19:27.360 --> 00:19:28.980 And how are you discouraged? 00:19:29.420 --> 00:19:32.420 Second set of questions, how can community help? 00:19:33.140 --> 00:19:34.260 And how can we pray? 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:36.460 So go ahead and take a moment right now. 00:19:36.600 --> 00:19:41.500 Jump over to thechurch.digitalalterlive.com. 00:19:41.640 --> 00:19:43.760 And hey, we're going to wrap for this broadcast. 00:19:44.020 --> 00:19:44.920 This is a lot of fun. 00:19:45.280 --> 00:19:50.880 I cannot tell you how much fun it is for me working with the New Thing Network to lead 00:19:50.880 --> 00:19:56.040 digitally this movement, this organization, this network happening. 00:19:56.140 --> 00:20:02.760 And I'm so excited to be able to take the resources of New Thing Network, Dave Ferguson and the 00:20:02.760 --> 00:20:09.180 tribe over there, and roll it out in digital spaces for people like you to do effective 00:20:09.180 --> 00:20:15.240 digital ministry and digital multiplication in ways that have not even been seen before. 00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:16.280 Super excited. 00:20:16.520 --> 00:20:17.400 And we're going to wrap. 00:20:17.520 --> 00:20:22.580 So hey, for Jeff, for New Thing, for all the freaking people that are on that eight and 00:20:22.580 --> 00:20:25.060 a half by 11 sheet, we're going to call it a day. 00:20:25.540 --> 00:20:26.660 Head over to Altar Live. 00:20:26.740 --> 00:20:28.500 Be part of the network community over there. 00:20:28.860 --> 00:20:29.800 We'll see you next time. 00:20:29.860 --> 00:20:35.580 Actually, when we start broadcasting the Church Digital Podcast live in Altar Live starting 00:20:35.580 --> 00:20:37.080 here in a couple weeks. 00:20:37.500 --> 00:20:37.980 All right, y'all. 00:20:38.200 --> 00:20:38.660 You have a good day.