WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.040 As long as I have a boat, I'm not letting the people around me drown. 00:00:06.240 --> 00:00:09.300 And that's something that's my heart. 00:00:09.920 --> 00:00:12.760 If I have a boat, I'm making sure people don't drown. 00:00:13.600 --> 00:00:18.460 You know, and I don't have a big boat, but I got life preservers and I'm willing to throw them out. 00:00:19.200 --> 00:00:24.780 And I got life-saving rings and I'm willing to throw them out and attach them to my boat and help get them to safety. 00:00:25.240 --> 00:00:27.240 Because we're called to be Capital C Church. 00:00:27.860 --> 00:00:29.540 Again, I'm not building my kingdom. 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:31.220 We're building the kingdom of God. 00:00:31.740 --> 00:00:33.360 Welcome to the Church Digital Podcast. 00:00:34.120 --> 00:00:38.120 Through this podcast, we'll talk about the technological innovations within the church. 00:00:38.440 --> 00:00:42.560 But more than tech for tech itself, we'll address deeper questions. 00:00:43.460 --> 00:00:45.320 Is disciple-making possible digitally? 00:00:46.140 --> 00:00:48.320 How should we approach the digital mission field? 00:00:49.100 --> 00:00:51.880 Can a biblically grounded church operate in digital space? 00:00:52.660 --> 00:00:54.900 Oh, and where does the metaverse fit into all this? 00:00:55.500 --> 00:00:59.900 Whether you're a big or small church, an established church, or a startup church plant. 00:01:00.620 --> 00:01:07.540 The Church Digital's goal is to help churches like yours learn to be a multiplying church, digitally and physically. 00:01:08.160 --> 00:01:09.020 Our heart? 00:01:09.520 --> 00:01:15.220 That churches like yours will discover a newfound focus on disciple-making that will revolutionize your church. 00:01:15.640 --> 00:01:18.520 And now, here's your host, Jeff Reed. 00:01:18.920 --> 00:01:19.260 All right. 00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:20.980 Hey, welcome to the Church Digital Podcast. 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:26.100 Once again, Jeff Reed, the host here, founder of the Church Digital, co-founder, Digital Church Network. 00:01:26.580 --> 00:01:30.000 And, man, I have a lot of fun jobs. 00:01:30.060 --> 00:01:35.360 And I love working with organizations that are championing this idea of digital church. 00:01:35.520 --> 00:01:41.060 And, you know, as we talk about digital church, churches that are operating in digital space and metaverse space, 00:01:41.060 --> 00:01:46.620 there's lots of unique stories, unique expressions of these churches. 00:01:47.760 --> 00:01:49.340 And some are controversial. 00:01:50.000 --> 00:01:54.060 The Dungeons and Dragons Bible study gets some eyes brows raised. 00:01:54.840 --> 00:01:59.560 You know, anytime we talk virtual reality church, there's a lot of people that are uncomfortable with, you know, 00:01:59.600 --> 00:02:03.000 the virtual reality baptisms and communion and some of that stuff that's happening in there. 00:02:03.380 --> 00:02:08.220 But, you know, when I talk about Grand Theft Auto Church, which actually was a DJ Soto experiment, 00:02:08.460 --> 00:02:10.660 that right there is like, I'm not really sure. 00:02:10.660 --> 00:02:14.000 I, myself, I'm not really sure about the GTA church. 00:02:14.340 --> 00:02:16.720 But, you know, I love the fact that he's experimenting. 00:02:17.140 --> 00:02:23.820 But one of these churches that anytime I bring it up in a conversation, it always brings up a smile. 00:02:24.020 --> 00:02:27.760 With whoever I'm talking about, however angry they are with me, 00:02:28.080 --> 00:02:33.040 I can get them to smile at merely mentioning the name Barbecue Church. 00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:37.900 And so we barbecue Assemblies of God, if I am correct in this. 00:02:37.980 --> 00:02:43.020 And so we're bringing into the conversation here Andre Anderson today. 00:02:43.140 --> 00:02:45.200 Andre, man, thanks for jumping on the show here. 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:46.540 Hey, thank you, Jeff. 00:02:46.640 --> 00:02:48.960 It's hilarious and fun. 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:53.500 So Andre, and I want to actually set him up to tell the story here in a second. 00:02:53.640 --> 00:02:54.860 Actually, we'll just do it right now. 00:02:55.240 --> 00:03:01.560 So Andre, you are lead pastor of Barbecue Assemblies of God. 00:03:02.180 --> 00:03:05.680 Okay, how did you get here? 00:03:06.300 --> 00:03:09.900 Like, give me, not the 30-minute version, give me the shorter version. 00:03:09.900 --> 00:03:17.820 But tell me how you got to the place where you are now leading a digital church called Barbecue Assemblies of God. 00:03:18.320 --> 00:03:26.900 Well, it started out, 2020 was the year that everybody tried something new or stayed stagnant. 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:31.440 So, and I started smoking meat. 00:03:32.160 --> 00:03:33.560 I got a smoker. 00:03:33.660 --> 00:03:34.720 I always loved to cook. 00:03:34.880 --> 00:03:38.140 I've always worked in four-star, five-star dining establishments. 00:03:38.820 --> 00:03:41.160 So I'm like, okay, let's start smoking meat. 00:03:41.260 --> 00:03:45.560 I started, and then I was looking at barbecue Facebook groups, and they were kind of toxic. 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:48.980 They would say, like, really random, terrible things. 00:03:49.780 --> 00:03:53.640 And so I started a Facebook group called Barbecue Assembly of God because I thought it was hilarious. 00:03:54.600 --> 00:03:58.820 And I figured, if you're in this group, you're not going to talk crazy, hopefully. 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:00.720 And if you do, I'll kick you out. 00:04:00.780 --> 00:04:01.740 I'm okay with that. 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:10.120 And I did that, and one of my friends across the street is another brother, goes to a church in the area. 00:04:10.600 --> 00:04:13.620 He barbecues hardcore, and he comes over. 00:04:13.720 --> 00:04:17.200 I was doing a prime rib roast, and he said, he's looking at me. 00:04:17.280 --> 00:04:19.340 He's like, hey, man, Barbecue Assembly of God is blowing up. 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:20.560 And I said, am I the lead pastor? 00:04:21.280 --> 00:04:22.800 And he said, yeah. 00:04:23.520 --> 00:04:28.500 And then I felt like God spoke to me and said, you're going to start a church called Barbecue Church. 00:04:28.880 --> 00:04:31.220 And I said, okay. 00:04:32.020 --> 00:04:37.980 And so originally, I thought I was just going to be doing training videos of, you know, how to cook this different stuff. 00:04:38.080 --> 00:04:39.540 And God said, you're a pastor. 00:04:39.940 --> 00:04:41.220 You've always been a pastor. 00:04:42.400 --> 00:04:43.920 And I've always done youth ministry. 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:47.080 I do youth ministry, you know, consulting and helping youth ministries grow. 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:51.340 And he goes, no, you're going to lead people to Jesus through barbecue. 00:04:53.240 --> 00:04:54.160 And I said, okay. 00:04:54.700 --> 00:05:01.840 And so I looked into it, started to go down this path, connected with great people at Church Marketing, 00:05:01.840 --> 00:05:06.060 University, and they helped me start. 00:05:06.260 --> 00:05:10.040 And I mean, we launched Barbecue Church this May, last May. 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:11.700 May 29th was our launch date. 00:05:12.220 --> 00:05:13.640 And it's been fun. 00:05:15.340 --> 00:05:17.780 And that's how we got here, technically. 00:05:18.320 --> 00:05:18.460 Awesome. 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:21.140 So you were, unpack here a little bit. 00:05:21.220 --> 00:05:23.920 You were running the Facebook group, Barbecue Assemblies of God. 00:05:24.540 --> 00:05:28.860 And that actually led you to start the church. 00:05:29.020 --> 00:05:35.000 So what does, and it was off air, we were talking about unique expressions of church and things like that. 00:05:35.100 --> 00:05:40.140 And so, like, what does Barbecue Church, what does that look like? 00:05:40.520 --> 00:05:48.020 Our whole thought process and what we, it's kind of like our mission statement is we want to feed people biblically, spiritually, and literally. 00:05:49.240 --> 00:05:54.300 And we, I just preach sermons. 00:05:54.820 --> 00:05:58.100 It's quick, you know, seven to 11-minute sermons. 00:05:58.660 --> 00:06:05.420 I'm not going to get any awards or any accolades on social media for being deeply profound and deeply theological. 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:07.460 It's not my audience. 00:06:07.700 --> 00:06:10.120 It's not who I was called to reach. 00:06:10.780 --> 00:06:14.260 We are out here to reach those people who don't want to step inside of a church. 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:23.000 We're out here to reach those people who are on the outside who don't want to step inside of a church building. 00:06:23.440 --> 00:06:29.020 We're looking at the fact that the majority of people who go to church are women and their husbands stay home. 00:06:30.640 --> 00:06:33.880 And so their husbands aren't moving forward on their faith journey. 00:06:34.260 --> 00:06:39.580 Well, now these wives can point to Barbecue Church and say, why don't you watch Barbecue Church's sermon? 00:06:39.900 --> 00:06:41.180 It's seven to 11 minutes. 00:06:41.340 --> 00:06:42.060 You watch it. 00:06:42.060 --> 00:06:46.980 And then they can begin to grow together in their spiritual journey, which is important. 00:06:47.520 --> 00:06:50.140 It's an important piece, and it's something that we're lacking. 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:59.980 And for me, being a person who works multiple, multiple, multiple side jobs, I'm out here. 00:07:00.420 --> 00:07:01.260 I'm hanging out. 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:08.040 Like, when this recording is over, I'm going to go and set up parking for an air show. 00:07:08.440 --> 00:07:13.900 And the people that I work with are not followers of Jesus yet. 00:07:14.360 --> 00:07:15.980 And they watch Barbecue Church. 00:07:17.660 --> 00:07:22.280 And one of those guys text me when I was on my way to fly to Atlanta. 00:07:22.780 --> 00:07:27.540 He said, I just want you to know I'm giving everything to Jesus today. 00:07:28.900 --> 00:07:29.380 Wow. 00:07:30.820 --> 00:07:32.660 That's Barbecue Church. 00:07:33.800 --> 00:07:36.260 Like, he didn't go to church. 00:07:37.540 --> 00:07:39.120 He watches our services. 00:07:39.820 --> 00:07:41.440 You know, often that's beautiful. 00:07:41.440 --> 00:07:57.200 Oftentimes, we talk about how, you know, by doing digital church, by being not a physical church, doing digital ministry, but by doing what you're doing, planting and running a digital church, we're reaching different types of people. 00:07:57.980 --> 00:08:00.480 And that's an incredible testimony right there. 00:08:00.580 --> 00:08:02.380 Now, was this somebody you knew? 00:08:02.460 --> 00:08:03.060 Was it a friend? 00:08:03.200 --> 00:08:06.260 Was it somebody like, how are you connected to him? 00:08:06.320 --> 00:08:08.360 Was it just through barbecues, assemblies of God? 00:08:08.460 --> 00:08:09.660 Like, what's that relationship? 00:08:10.180 --> 00:08:11.220 It's through parking. 00:08:12.100 --> 00:08:13.920 He works in a parking company with me. 00:08:13.960 --> 00:08:14.200 Okay. 00:08:14.620 --> 00:08:17.880 We do parking logistics and we park cars. 00:08:18.640 --> 00:08:19.240 A co-worker. 00:08:19.760 --> 00:08:20.520 A co-worker. 00:08:21.060 --> 00:08:22.160 That's beautiful. 00:08:22.900 --> 00:08:23.940 And, like, he's not. 00:08:24.020 --> 00:08:25.320 A marine. 00:08:25.900 --> 00:08:26.280 Okay. 00:08:26.780 --> 00:08:27.500 A leatherneck. 00:08:27.860 --> 00:08:28.300 Interesting. 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:29.360 Very cool. 00:08:29.600 --> 00:08:30.060 Parkour. 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:33.000 And he watches every week. 00:08:33.420 --> 00:08:35.440 Another guy that's with us right now, Brian. 00:08:36.120 --> 00:08:37.300 I'm about to go work with him. 00:08:37.400 --> 00:08:38.940 He watches every week. 00:08:39.180 --> 00:08:42.020 And his son just gave his life to the Lord. 00:08:42.180 --> 00:08:43.880 And Brian texted me to let me know. 00:08:44.260 --> 00:08:48.180 Hey, just so you know, that my son went to this church with his fiancee and she gave her. 00:08:48.520 --> 00:08:50.620 He gave his life to the Lord because he felt like it was time. 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:53.580 And I think that you should know as a person that's close to us. 00:08:53.680 --> 00:08:54.860 And I'm like, that's awesome. 00:08:55.280 --> 00:08:55.880 Praise God. 00:08:56.680 --> 00:08:57.540 Barbecue Church. 00:08:57.680 --> 00:09:03.760 Like, are you seeing, I mean, it sounds like within your relationships, within your circle of influence, there are people that are connecting. 00:09:04.160 --> 00:09:07.100 Are you finding it reaching beyond that? 00:09:07.220 --> 00:09:11.540 Like, outside different states, cities, across the country? 00:09:11.700 --> 00:09:13.380 Like, what's the reach of it right now? 00:09:13.380 --> 00:09:18.040 So, we have five campuses in five other states right now. 00:09:18.220 --> 00:09:18.440 Okay. 00:09:18.500 --> 00:09:21.080 So, what does a campus look like for Barbecue Church? 00:09:21.300 --> 00:09:25.540 So, what they do is they've made this up. 00:09:25.940 --> 00:09:27.240 They just started this. 00:09:27.900 --> 00:09:30.280 And I'm like, sounds good to me. 00:09:31.140 --> 00:09:40.180 But they have started to invite their community to their houses or to a building to bring smoked meat and to bring food once a month. 00:09:40.500 --> 00:09:42.560 And they watch one of the services together. 00:09:43.680 --> 00:09:45.220 And they do life together. 00:09:45.220 --> 00:09:45.980 And they talk together. 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:50.880 And so, it's like a once a month small group where they watch the sermon. 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:53.060 But they're all eating together. 00:09:53.060 --> 00:09:54.220 They're fellowshipping together. 00:09:54.400 --> 00:09:55.700 And it's people in their community. 00:09:56.540 --> 00:09:59.240 So, we have, what is it, Colorado Springs. 00:09:59.240 --> 00:10:06.820 We have Virginia, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, and North Carolina. 00:10:08.820 --> 00:10:13.640 And it's just people who have found us along the way. 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:20.860 About four months ago, I was in Redding, Pennsylvania at an air show. 00:10:21.520 --> 00:10:30.160 And somebody who I connected with because of Barbecue, the Barbecue Assembly God Facebook group, he came to meet me for the first time while I was parking cars. 00:10:31.820 --> 00:10:34.320 And I had never met him before in my life. 00:10:36.480 --> 00:10:37.000 Yeah. 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:40.620 It's, yeah, it's what I do. 00:10:40.700 --> 00:10:41.420 I love people. 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:45.040 So, if I'm in your area, I'm going to reach out. 00:10:45.760 --> 00:10:50.120 When I was in, I was at the World Games in Birmingham, Alabama. 00:10:50.520 --> 00:10:54.520 And somebody from Barbecue Church who I had never met before lives in Georgia. 00:10:55.220 --> 00:11:05.740 Her and her husband drove two hours to Birmingham, got a hotel room, just so that they could come and take me out for barbecue at their favorite place in Birmingham. 00:11:06.380 --> 00:11:08.560 And then they gifted me two cutting boards. 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:14.520 Do you, I mean, that's interesting, just this reach that you're getting. 00:11:15.760 --> 00:11:19.440 As you've tried to, you know, establish, you've been doing this less than a year. 00:11:20.340 --> 00:11:23.900 Like, does the, did you have a target audience? 00:11:24.040 --> 00:11:27.820 Now, barbecue is broad, but it's also narrow in that. 00:11:27.920 --> 00:11:29.820 Like, are you trying to, you mentioned men earlier. 00:11:30.460 --> 00:11:32.400 Were you, were you targeting the male? 00:11:32.720 --> 00:11:38.120 Were you, did you have to come up with like a persona type of person that you were going after? 00:11:38.480 --> 00:11:40.060 What does that process look like for you? 00:11:40.860 --> 00:11:44.340 I, our basic target audience is people who eat. 00:11:44.680 --> 00:11:45.760 That's a pretty broad. 00:11:45.920 --> 00:11:46.240 Yeah. 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:46.280 Yeah. 00:11:46.940 --> 00:11:47.320 Yeah. 00:11:47.420 --> 00:11:50.920 If, if you eat, then I, then you're my target audience. 00:11:51.080 --> 00:11:55.200 So, so the guy that's eating sushi in Japan, let's, let's barbecue sushi. 00:11:55.340 --> 00:11:56.320 Let's find a way to make it work. 00:11:56.580 --> 00:11:56.720 Yeah. 00:11:56.960 --> 00:11:57.860 Oh my gosh. 00:11:57.880 --> 00:11:59.780 I will barbecue sushi right now. 00:11:59.840 --> 00:12:01.180 That's such a really great idea. 00:12:03.520 --> 00:12:05.440 I'll come over and eat barbecue sushi. 00:12:05.820 --> 00:12:06.320 Write it down. 00:12:06.400 --> 00:12:07.740 We got to, we got to figure out how to do this. 00:12:07.880 --> 00:12:10.560 I got to write this down because that's a really great idea. 00:12:10.940 --> 00:12:11.980 I can do smoked. 00:12:12.160 --> 00:12:12.360 Okay. 00:12:12.380 --> 00:12:13.400 We shouldn't go into that. 00:12:14.300 --> 00:12:14.900 Go ahead. 00:12:14.900 --> 00:12:15.900 I want to hear it. 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:16.680 Okay. 00:12:17.100 --> 00:12:20.740 So what I can do is I can do smoked. 00:12:20.900 --> 00:12:22.880 I mean, I can do smoked salmon rolls. 00:12:22.980 --> 00:12:25.140 I can do smoke tilapia rolls. 00:12:25.140 --> 00:12:31.400 I can do smoked mahi rolls and I can get the sticky rice and cook it up. 00:12:31.400 --> 00:12:36.220 Cause we have that one of those big rice cookers and then I can get the sushi deal. 00:12:36.680 --> 00:12:38.280 Oh my gosh, this is amazing. 00:12:38.280 --> 00:12:44.760 And then we'll do smoked different types of smoked sushi that we can put on platters that 00:12:44.760 --> 00:12:47.020 people can eat when they come. 00:12:47.180 --> 00:12:57.280 So we'll do smoked sushi and then we'll do smoked charcuterie boards and that'll, it'll be like tasting events, like a little appetizer deal. 00:12:57.780 --> 00:12:59.800 Oh my gosh, Jeffrey, you are a genius. 00:13:00.260 --> 00:13:04.800 Well, I thought I was being a smart aleck and you used my powers against me. 00:13:04.960 --> 00:13:05.800 So there you go. 00:13:05.900 --> 00:13:07.220 I love sushi, by the way. 00:13:07.420 --> 00:13:10.960 So, uh, you know, invite me over at least when we get there. 00:13:11.060 --> 00:13:12.060 That's, that's beautiful. 00:13:12.860 --> 00:13:21.600 Um, so the, uh, what's the weirdest response you've gotten when you talk about barbecue church? 00:13:21.600 --> 00:13:28.920 The weirdest response is honestly from people who were in a position to, to help fund what 00:13:28.920 --> 00:13:29.340 we do. 00:13:31.100 --> 00:13:34.580 And coincidentally, we've actually gotten no funding from anyone. 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:38.340 So, so those have been some weird responses. 00:13:38.520 --> 00:13:39.620 Yeah, I would have, would imagine. 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:43.320 Very weird, um, because no, they don't get it. 00:13:44.360 --> 00:13:49.500 Um, and so barbecue church tech, technically I'm an assembly got pastor, but barbecue church 00:13:49.500 --> 00:13:50.660 is not an assembly got church. 00:13:51.300 --> 00:13:54.420 So I'm assembly got a barbecue church is an assembly got. 00:13:54.780 --> 00:13:57.640 And that's not because of anything with my district. 00:13:57.640 --> 00:14:03.460 I'm in the Illinois district and my superintendent loves me and loves barbecue church. 00:14:04.300 --> 00:14:09.780 Um, but when we were going down the thought process, the Lord said, you need to 00:14:09.780 --> 00:14:10.440 launch now. 00:14:10.840 --> 00:14:12.320 It's not, you can't wait. 00:14:12.640 --> 00:14:13.840 There's things that need to happen. 00:14:13.920 --> 00:14:18.140 And so we just went ahead and launched and we're still working with the assembly of God. 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:20.720 If you see, if I give you my bylaws, you'll see it. 00:14:21.680 --> 00:14:28.720 But I've had people who have said, like, I'll talk to church planning organizations or different 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:30.800 organizations out there who can give money. 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:34.540 And they're like, well, how are you going to pay your bills? 00:14:36.200 --> 00:14:40.660 Or how come, like, why do you want to do church events for other churches? 00:14:40.820 --> 00:14:42.000 Because that's one, that's my heart. 00:14:42.460 --> 00:14:46.980 I'm going to do barbecue church events at other churches so that they can reach their barbecue 00:14:46.980 --> 00:14:47.520 community. 00:14:47.760 --> 00:14:52.380 And then they can do barbecue small groups so that they can continue to reach their community 00:14:52.380 --> 00:14:54.720 for Jesus through barbecue. 00:14:55.540 --> 00:14:59.440 And this guy says, why would you help grow another church when you can just build a church 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:02.260 yourself and do it for yourself? 00:15:02.780 --> 00:15:05.820 And I said, because I'm not building my own kingdom. 00:15:07.480 --> 00:15:08.740 And then I got off the phone. 00:15:09.140 --> 00:15:09.680 Let me ask you this. 00:15:09.880 --> 00:15:12.980 Did you have, like, was it hard for you to get started? 00:15:13.260 --> 00:15:14.980 You haven't, you haven't gotten much funding. 00:15:15.080 --> 00:15:20.020 It doesn't, it doesn't sound like, like, but you've got this vision, you've got these locations 00:15:20.020 --> 00:15:25.100 scattered around, you know, I know your heart to, to like help the physical church through 00:15:25.100 --> 00:15:29.760 barbecue, try to, to be more, more, uh, I want to say the word attractive, but try to just 00:15:29.760 --> 00:15:31.220 connect with people in different ways. 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:32.460 Like, what was it? 00:15:32.780 --> 00:15:34.560 Was it hard for you to get started on this road? 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:39.160 It was because I'm a, I'm a vision. 00:15:39.340 --> 00:15:43.320 I'm a vision person where I'm, I'm going, going, going towards what I want. 00:15:43.980 --> 00:15:47.880 And I'm also trying to build everything in sequences. 00:15:48.500 --> 00:15:51.580 You know, I want to, I want to build a system. 00:15:51.980 --> 00:15:55.440 And so when I don't have the system in place, I get frustrated. 00:15:56.520 --> 00:16:02.680 And so I felt as though, um, I felt as though I needed to have everything working. 00:16:02.780 --> 00:16:05.240 Improperly is what I thought. 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:10.080 I felt like I needed to have the camera, the, this, the, that, this, that. 00:16:10.700 --> 00:16:17.740 And, um, it was actually my little brother, uh, back in Pittsburgh and, uh, another dude 00:16:17.740 --> 00:16:22.060 named Phil, who is not saved at all, who kicked my butt. 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:27.340 And Phil, who I taught, I talked to probably three times a week. 00:16:27.340 --> 00:16:33.240 Um, I work with him in his parking business, does not want anything to do with church, but 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:37.360 watches barbecue church weekly and gives me critiques on my sermons. 00:16:37.580 --> 00:16:38.000 Okay. 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:44.040 And I, he pushed me and said, you're trying to make everything perfect. 00:16:44.160 --> 00:16:46.960 You just need to launch because you're a man of God. 00:16:47.140 --> 00:16:48.500 God has called you to do something. 00:16:48.640 --> 00:16:50.520 So get out there and do it and stop waiting. 00:16:51.500 --> 00:16:51.860 Wow. 00:16:52.860 --> 00:16:59.280 And he said it with a lot of expletives that I cannot say on your show because it will kill 00:16:59.280 --> 00:17:11.320 me, but, but it hit my, it hit my soul because I was trying to just make it look the best and 00:17:11.320 --> 00:17:12.460 do everything perfect. 00:17:13.340 --> 00:17:16.400 And he's like, no, God called you to do this. 00:17:16.460 --> 00:17:17.000 Just do it. 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:19.140 Just do it. 00:17:20.560 --> 00:17:29.620 And so it, so it was, it was difficult because of myself and, you know, granted, if, if somebody 00:17:29.620 --> 00:17:37.240 would have given me $10,000 on, on like upfront, it would have been nice, but, but I'm not in 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:37.460 debt. 00:17:37.700 --> 00:17:41.080 I have good credit and we're moving forward. 00:17:41.720 --> 00:17:42.160 Very cool. 00:17:42.320 --> 00:17:47.980 I, you know, I know I, myself, I, I, I struggled with that, trying to get the level of perfection, 00:17:47.980 --> 00:17:49.600 trying to get the excellence up. 00:17:51.020 --> 00:17:55.660 And, uh, and Ray, Ray DeArmis used to be the co-host here with, uh, the church digital 00:17:55.660 --> 00:17:56.520 podcast with me. 00:17:56.720 --> 00:18:00.980 He was actually the guy that, that was just, he wouldn't use the expletives that, that 00:18:00.980 --> 00:18:04.200 you're describing, but he would be constantly telling me, Hey, let's just go. 00:18:04.260 --> 00:18:04.940 Hey, let's just go. 00:18:05.020 --> 00:18:05.720 Hey, let's just go. 00:18:06.180 --> 00:18:08.260 And, uh, it was funny. 00:18:08.280 --> 00:18:09.720 Like he, he sold it to me. 00:18:09.740 --> 00:18:10.480 He's like, Hey, you know what? 00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:12.480 Let's just do a, do a small series of like six. 00:18:12.600 --> 00:18:16.180 We're just going to do like a short, short series of podcasts, six episodes. 00:18:17.300 --> 00:18:21.980 And, um, you know, we're 240, 250 podcast episodes later. 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:28.180 Uh, it's like, I think, I think we, I think we blew past that six, that six number and, 00:18:28.180 --> 00:18:31.000 uh, doing, doing really well with it. 00:18:31.060 --> 00:18:35.560 And if you go back, uh, every once in a while, I'll do this or I'll have somebody will text 00:18:35.560 --> 00:18:36.380 me that they're doing it. 00:18:37.100 --> 00:18:40.440 They will, uh, my first episode was God awful. 00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:41.760 Oh my gosh. 00:18:42.020 --> 00:18:44.460 You know, and, and it's, it's embarrassing, but you know what? 00:18:44.500 --> 00:18:50.700 You, you learn and you grow through it and, uh, and people use it and you, you develop 00:18:50.700 --> 00:18:52.100 as a result of it. 00:18:52.140 --> 00:18:57.740 And so I would use the not non-expletive version of probably what your, your friend told you 00:18:57.740 --> 00:18:59.780 and, uh, and tell that to somebody else. 00:19:00.100 --> 00:19:01.780 Maybe, maybe just give it a shot. 00:19:01.840 --> 00:19:02.140 Experiment. 00:19:02.260 --> 00:19:04.300 What, what's, what's the worst that's going to happen? 00:19:04.940 --> 00:19:11.080 Was the, I mean, it sounds like barbecue was always like your heart and target here. 00:19:11.780 --> 00:19:17.160 Going after people who are like, uh, well, that are capable of eating. 00:19:18.040 --> 00:19:19.780 How do, how do you feel about the feeding tube? 00:19:19.920 --> 00:19:21.300 Like, does that, no, I'm kidding. 00:19:21.480 --> 00:19:26.980 You want to go ahead. 00:19:29.260 --> 00:19:31.000 I'm like, I'll smoke it. 00:19:31.100 --> 00:19:36.180 I'll smoke it if you can put it in a pan. 00:19:36.260 --> 00:19:37.180 I'll throw it in a smoker. 00:19:37.300 --> 00:19:38.560 You put it in a bag, man. 00:19:39.000 --> 00:19:43.380 Was there like, historically, are you an out of the box type of thinker? 00:19:43.880 --> 00:19:49.680 I mean, like previous to 2020, when, you know, everything went to pot and everybody's doing 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:54.620 their own thing or doing all these new experiments, where were you innovative and thinking outside 00:19:54.620 --> 00:19:55.620 of the box before that? 00:19:56.120 --> 00:19:57.200 I'm an evangelist at heart. 00:19:57.980 --> 00:20:00.660 So everything is extreme for me. 00:20:01.460 --> 00:20:03.120 Everything's next level for me. 00:20:04.120 --> 00:20:07.820 And so if you give me a goal, I think I can do more. 00:20:09.180 --> 00:20:14.560 I just, I believe God when he said immeasurably more than you can ask or imagine. 00:20:15.280 --> 00:20:22.320 So I kind of run with that, you know, when, so right now I, I coach youth ministries on 00:20:22.320 --> 00:20:22.740 the side. 00:20:23.040 --> 00:20:26.780 If somebody calls and they're like, Hey, coach, coach my youth pastor. 00:20:27.560 --> 00:20:32.760 And, you know, our youth ministries were growing, you know, they're doubling in size in three 00:20:32.760 --> 00:20:33.100 months. 00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:39.500 I had a youth ministry in the Poconos that would have blown your mind if you would have seen 00:20:39.500 --> 00:20:42.240 what we were doing, but it wasn't what everyone else was. 00:20:43.420 --> 00:20:47.600 Everyone else was like, do bigger, do more, do this, do that. 00:20:47.820 --> 00:20:49.980 And I'm like, no, I'm not. 00:20:50.460 --> 00:20:53.080 I'm going to do three things at my youth service. 00:20:53.340 --> 00:20:55.100 And this is all we're going to do. 00:20:55.160 --> 00:20:59.300 And it's going to be the most dumbed down, most streamlined youth service ever. 00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:01.740 I was at a church of a hundred people. 00:21:02.240 --> 00:21:07.060 We had 70 kids who were not churched were coming every week. 00:21:08.840 --> 00:21:11.080 It's just out of the box works. 00:21:12.280 --> 00:21:15.020 It's, you don't have to do what everyone else is doing. 00:21:15.460 --> 00:21:17.800 That's, it just doesn't make sense to me. 00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:22.140 I, I like to just sit down and ask God, where does he want us to go? 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:27.220 And he's like, okay, Andre will, Andre will take anything and run with it. 00:21:27.260 --> 00:21:30.100 So I'll give this idea to him. 00:21:30.500 --> 00:21:32.160 So are there plans for like, 00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:35.880 dessert church, sushi church, you know, 00:21:35.940 --> 00:21:38.160 spinning this off, multiplying into other things. 00:21:38.840 --> 00:21:41.700 There are, there are some talks. 00:21:42.100 --> 00:21:42.580 Okay. 00:21:43.020 --> 00:21:47.180 There's, there are some conversations happening in, 00:21:47.320 --> 00:21:54.860 in my fellowship with district officials and presbyters about how many 00:21:54.860 --> 00:21:56.700 non-traditional churches can we launch. 00:21:57.100 --> 00:21:57.440 All right. 00:21:57.540 --> 00:21:58.840 I'm going to prophesy. 00:21:58.840 --> 00:22:00.340 I'm not even a charismatic person, 00:22:00.440 --> 00:22:02.400 but I'm going to prophesy over this right now. 00:22:02.520 --> 00:22:07.520 You will launch a foodie church network in the next two years. 00:22:08.260 --> 00:22:09.600 I want to see it. 00:22:09.760 --> 00:22:10.280 I, there, 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:14.280 there is opportunities to expand beyond just barbecue. 00:22:14.440 --> 00:22:15.660 I'm not a barbecue guy. 00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:17.020 I'm really not. 00:22:17.120 --> 00:22:17.440 I'm going to, 00:22:17.520 --> 00:22:18.260 and I apologize. 00:22:18.420 --> 00:22:19.420 I know I'm speaking to the, 00:22:19.560 --> 00:22:20.460 to the Bishop, 00:22:20.540 --> 00:22:22.360 to the Pope of barbecue literally here. 00:22:22.360 --> 00:22:24.020 But that's we, 00:22:24.060 --> 00:22:28.100 we need to position you to be the Pope of the food church network. 00:22:28.740 --> 00:22:29.820 Church network. 00:22:29.980 --> 00:22:30.340 I'm with it. 00:22:30.940 --> 00:22:31.800 Here's the thing. 00:22:32.080 --> 00:22:36.180 If I made you some smoked cream cheese, 00:22:36.320 --> 00:22:37.420 it would change your life. 00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:41.960 So I've spent 14 years in DFW and in Austin. 00:22:42.320 --> 00:22:45.600 So I've had Texas barbecue all day long. 00:22:46.400 --> 00:22:47.140 It's nice. 00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:48.860 I'm not. 00:22:49.440 --> 00:22:49.840 And so, 00:22:49.940 --> 00:22:52.780 and I say that to Kansas city people and they're like, 00:22:52.780 --> 00:22:53.400 you know, 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:53.880 nuts. 00:22:54.060 --> 00:22:55.740 And then I say that to Carolina people. 00:22:55.900 --> 00:22:56.040 My, 00:22:56.060 --> 00:22:59.620 my parents used to live up in the Carolinas and they get all offended. 00:22:59.620 --> 00:23:00.720 And everybody's in. 00:23:00.780 --> 00:23:03.780 Everybody's literally pouring barbecue sauce down me through a, 00:23:03.780 --> 00:23:04.920 through a spigot. 00:23:05.100 --> 00:23:05.620 And, 00:23:05.680 --> 00:23:06.120 uh, 00:23:06.200 --> 00:23:06.640 yeah, 00:23:07.240 --> 00:23:07.420 well, 00:23:07.460 --> 00:23:08.160 that's well, 00:23:08.280 --> 00:23:08.820 number one, 00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:09.240 that's, 00:23:09.320 --> 00:23:11.120 that's where the problem lies. 00:23:11.220 --> 00:23:16.120 We're talking about barbecue sauce and you just need the right things. 00:23:17.140 --> 00:23:17.900 It's not, 00:23:18.260 --> 00:23:19.120 you need the right things. 00:23:19.120 --> 00:23:20.040 Like if we did, 00:23:20.160 --> 00:23:22.480 so if we did a smoked cream cheese, 00:23:22.900 --> 00:23:23.320 okay, 00:23:23.940 --> 00:23:24.380 put some, 00:23:24.580 --> 00:23:25.880 put some crackers around it, 00:23:25.920 --> 00:23:26.620 some celery. 00:23:26.940 --> 00:23:28.140 I don't know if you're into carrots. 00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:29.100 I can't stand carrots. 00:23:29.180 --> 00:23:29.800 I hate carrots. 00:23:29.900 --> 00:23:30.460 I do carrots, 00:23:30.520 --> 00:23:31.260 but we do that. 00:23:31.700 --> 00:23:32.140 Right. 00:23:32.140 --> 00:23:34.960 We put all that together and then you're dipping it in a smoked cream 00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:37.540 cheese that you'll go, 00:23:37.780 --> 00:23:38.340 you know what? 00:23:38.900 --> 00:23:39.820 This is delicious. 00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:41.980 Or if I made you some apple pie, 00:23:42.040 --> 00:23:42.740 baked beans. 00:23:43.520 --> 00:23:43.640 All right. 00:23:43.660 --> 00:23:43.960 So where, 00:23:43.960 --> 00:23:45.220 where are we going to hook up? 00:23:45.280 --> 00:23:46.820 Cause I've got it. 00:23:46.840 --> 00:23:47.220 I got it. 00:23:47.240 --> 00:23:47.740 I got it. 00:23:47.780 --> 00:23:48.560 I got to get some food. 00:23:48.980 --> 00:23:49.800 Where do you live? 00:23:50.260 --> 00:23:50.540 Miami. 00:23:50.960 --> 00:23:51.320 Um, 00:23:51.860 --> 00:23:52.140 okay. 00:23:52.140 --> 00:23:54.100 Can you come to Fort Lauderdale? 00:23:55.120 --> 00:23:55.520 December? 00:23:55.780 --> 00:23:56.060 No, 00:23:56.120 --> 00:23:56.600 January. 00:23:58.800 --> 00:24:00.420 Can you come to Fort Lauderdale in January? 00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:02.500 Are you going to be in Fort Lauderdale in January? 00:24:02.900 --> 00:24:03.140 Yeah. 00:24:03.380 --> 00:24:03.600 All right. 00:24:03.620 --> 00:24:03.960 I'll come. 00:24:04.040 --> 00:24:04.440 I'll come up. 00:24:04.540 --> 00:24:04.720 Yeah. 00:24:04.820 --> 00:24:05.060 I mean, 00:24:05.060 --> 00:24:06.360 this has nothing to do with Bart. 00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:06.820 Like I'll, 00:24:06.820 --> 00:24:08.520 I'll hang out with you if you're going to be down here. 00:24:08.680 --> 00:24:08.780 No, 00:24:08.800 --> 00:24:08.880 no, 00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:09.020 no, 00:24:09.080 --> 00:24:09.240 no, 00:24:09.300 --> 00:24:09.700 why not? 00:24:09.860 --> 00:24:10.720 Here's how we're going to do it. 00:24:10.740 --> 00:24:11.380 Here's how we're going to do it. 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:16.420 So the poolside barbecue battle at the visit Lauderdale food and wine 00:24:16.420 --> 00:24:19.200 festival is happening Friday to 13th. 00:24:21.280 --> 00:24:21.640 And, 00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:23.040 and I'm hosting, 00:24:23.160 --> 00:24:26.280 I'm the manager like hosting and the manager of that event. 00:24:26.760 --> 00:24:29.900 And then the grand tasting is the next day, 00:24:29.940 --> 00:24:31.120 the 14th of January. 00:24:31.500 --> 00:24:33.060 How many jobs do you have? 00:24:33.380 --> 00:24:33.620 Eight. 00:24:33.900 --> 00:24:34.080 Man, 00:24:34.120 --> 00:24:35.220 I thought I had a lot of jobs. 00:24:35.280 --> 00:24:35.840 You beat me. 00:24:35.840 --> 00:24:37.400 What are your eight jobs? 00:24:37.840 --> 00:24:38.160 Oh, 00:24:38.160 --> 00:24:38.740 let's see. 00:24:38.860 --> 00:24:39.920 I got to look at a list. 00:24:40.540 --> 00:24:41.460 Do you have enough fingers? 00:24:41.860 --> 00:24:42.000 No, 00:24:42.060 --> 00:24:42.380 I actually, 00:24:42.500 --> 00:24:43.440 I have it on a list. 00:24:44.320 --> 00:24:45.740 So I do. 00:24:45.980 --> 00:24:47.760 So I'm the lead pastor of barbecue church. 00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:48.320 Sure. 00:24:49.360 --> 00:24:50.320 I am, 00:24:50.320 --> 00:24:56.760 I'm a youth pastor coach and consultant to I parking and three, 00:24:56.880 --> 00:24:57.280 you know, 00:24:57.320 --> 00:24:58.700 parking and traffic logistics. 00:25:00.800 --> 00:25:01.660 I work. 00:25:01.920 --> 00:25:04.780 I'm an independent contractor for a company called meter feeder, 00:25:04.980 --> 00:25:06.680 which is pay for parking. 00:25:07.100 --> 00:25:07.540 Okay. 00:25:07.620 --> 00:25:08.320 Online service. 00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:13.840 I have another business that I launched called my event program.com. 00:25:15.340 --> 00:25:15.780 Uh, 00:25:15.780 --> 00:25:18.760 where I do digital programs for major events all over the country. 00:25:20.680 --> 00:25:21.120 I, 00:25:21.120 --> 00:25:26.280 I build online businesses for entrepreneurs. 00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:27.360 Six. 00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:30.760 Through like funnels and things of that sort. 00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:33.100 And then I got to find the other ones. 00:25:33.360 --> 00:25:34.440 Cause I know there's more. 00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:35.700 You got so many jobs. 00:25:35.740 --> 00:25:36.740 You can't even keep them straight. 00:25:37.120 --> 00:25:37.280 Yeah. 00:25:37.280 --> 00:25:38.460 I'm also a wholesale jeweler. 00:25:38.740 --> 00:25:39.100 Seven. 00:25:39.460 --> 00:25:40.160 There's one more. 00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:40.720 Let me look. 00:25:41.040 --> 00:25:41.160 Oh, 00:25:41.180 --> 00:25:42.860 there's so many questions in these jobs, 00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:43.380 by the way. 00:25:43.720 --> 00:25:43.940 Right. 00:25:44.220 --> 00:25:45.080 And then there's, 00:25:45.320 --> 00:25:45.880 Oh, 00:25:45.980 --> 00:25:47.500 and then I work for, 00:25:47.500 --> 00:25:48.380 um, 00:25:48.700 --> 00:25:51.260 I work for Jamie paw. 00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:54.860 So he's an evangelist that, 00:25:54.860 --> 00:25:55.220 uh, 00:25:55.220 --> 00:25:56.420 specializes in generosity. 00:25:57.020 --> 00:25:57.420 Okay. 00:25:57.660 --> 00:25:58.100 Um, 00:25:58.560 --> 00:26:01.160 so Paul is like P a U G H. 00:26:01.160 --> 00:26:04.440 I work for him and help him with all of his online stuff. 00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:06.700 And so I'm part of his team as well. 00:26:06.860 --> 00:26:08.200 So you got eight jobs. 00:26:08.280 --> 00:26:12.020 How do you have time for like doing the church thing? 00:26:12.020 --> 00:26:13.460 Or how do you have time for anything? 00:26:13.780 --> 00:26:14.920 Like how do you, 00:26:15.020 --> 00:26:15.900 how do you manage all this? 00:26:16.420 --> 00:26:16.860 Very carefully. 00:26:17.460 --> 00:26:17.940 Uh, 00:26:18.060 --> 00:26:18.740 it's, 00:26:18.940 --> 00:26:21.300 it's a thing of you pick and choose what you do. 00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:23.200 You pick and choose your timing. 00:26:23.660 --> 00:26:24.140 You, 00:26:24.280 --> 00:26:24.820 uh, 00:26:25.120 --> 00:26:27.480 have blocks of time that you do different things. 00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:30.960 And then there's times where other things fall. 00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:31.800 To the side, 00:26:31.880 --> 00:26:32.740 like jewelry. 00:26:33.180 --> 00:26:33.820 I'm not, 00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:36.240 I'm not doing anything unless somebody calls me. 00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:37.760 And says, 00:26:38.140 --> 00:26:38.220 Hey, 00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:38.920 I need something. 00:26:39.980 --> 00:26:40.520 You know, 00:26:40.520 --> 00:26:41.460 but you know, 00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:42.920 somebody called me the other day and said, 00:26:42.980 --> 00:26:43.460 I want to, 00:26:43.660 --> 00:26:47.860 I sold her a 2.23 carat round diamond. 00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:49.600 So, 00:26:49.600 --> 00:26:52.600 and with diamond bands and everything, 00:26:52.780 --> 00:26:52.800 it, 00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:53.320 I mean, 00:26:53.360 --> 00:26:55.140 total cost was like 25 grand. 00:26:55.740 --> 00:26:55.820 Well, 00:26:55.880 --> 00:26:56.280 I'll tell you what, 00:26:56.320 --> 00:26:56.820 next time, 00:26:56.860 --> 00:26:57.040 uh, 00:26:57.040 --> 00:26:59.500 next time I need a two carat diamond, 00:26:59.920 --> 00:27:00.240 you're, 00:27:00.360 --> 00:27:00.600 uh, 00:27:00.600 --> 00:27:01.440 you're on the call. 00:27:01.560 --> 00:27:02.480 Expect the Facebook message. 00:27:03.260 --> 00:27:03.760 I mean, 00:27:03.780 --> 00:27:03.980 listen, 00:27:04.060 --> 00:27:05.260 if you need a one carat diamond, 00:27:05.340 --> 00:27:05.820 I got you, 00:27:05.860 --> 00:27:06.040 man, 00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:07.400 you're not going to pay full price. 00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:08.020 I'll tell you that. 00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:09.680 Anything you need, 00:27:09.760 --> 00:27:10.780 you're not paying full price. 00:27:11.700 --> 00:27:14.960 So like you've got eight jobs, 00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:16.820 so you've got multiple streams of income. 00:27:16.820 --> 00:27:17.180 What, 00:27:17.260 --> 00:27:18.520 well protected in that. 00:27:19.300 --> 00:27:19.700 Um, 00:27:20.300 --> 00:27:21.240 what are you, 00:27:21.380 --> 00:27:22.520 so as you're fundraising, 00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:24.660 what are you actually fundraising for, 00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:25.540 for the church? 00:27:26.080 --> 00:27:26.480 Uh, 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:27.720 so it's like salary. 00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:29.280 It sounds like you don't need that, 00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:30.020 but what are, 00:27:30.420 --> 00:27:30.980 what's your, 00:27:31.120 --> 00:27:32.300 what's your desires and hopes? 00:27:32.800 --> 00:27:32.980 Right. 00:27:33.120 --> 00:27:33.340 Yeah. 00:27:33.340 --> 00:27:34.640 Salary isn't the goal, 00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:35.120 um, 00:27:35.120 --> 00:27:35.860 at all for me. 00:27:36.380 --> 00:27:38.300 It's I was talking with my, 00:27:38.520 --> 00:27:39.680 with my people last night. 00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:40.880 If, 00:27:41.420 --> 00:27:43.180 if I have $4 million in a bank, 00:27:43.220 --> 00:27:44.820 I would still be here parking cars. 00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:48.000 Like I'd still be doing this. 00:27:48.040 --> 00:27:50.580 I'd still be traveling because this is important. 00:27:50.800 --> 00:27:51.280 You know, 00:27:51.300 --> 00:27:52.380 what we do is great. 00:27:52.380 --> 00:27:53.640 And I need to be out here. 00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:55.360 I need to be in the streets. 00:27:55.360 --> 00:27:56.420 I need to be with people. 00:27:56.420 --> 00:27:58.280 I need to be constantly, 00:27:58.660 --> 00:27:59.340 you know, 00:27:59.520 --> 00:28:00.980 I need to be around people. 00:28:01.820 --> 00:28:06.360 So our goal right now is we want to get a food truck. 00:28:06.380 --> 00:28:15.440 truck situation going so that I can go to churches and cook lots of meat for lots of events. 00:28:15.600 --> 00:28:16.720 When there's a crisis, 00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:18.180 like a hurricane comes through, 00:28:18.260 --> 00:28:21.700 I want to be able to go and smoke meat on the street and feed families. 00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:22.960 Um, 00:28:23.180 --> 00:28:25.180 and then I also, 00:28:25.340 --> 00:28:33.940 I need to hire somebody to do my social media because I am so busy that I do not have time to post as much as what I need to. 00:28:34.660 --> 00:28:36.440 And then which, 00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:39.180 and that's going to be cheap because I shouldn't say cheap. 00:28:39.360 --> 00:28:40.280 It's just going to be inexpensive, 00:28:40.520 --> 00:28:42.260 inexpensive because I have friends. 00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:43.480 Um, 00:28:43.580 --> 00:28:50.900 and then my goal is there's a lot of church planners out there who honestly are struggling. 00:28:51.660 --> 00:28:54.440 And I want to start providing them with smokers. 00:28:56.620 --> 00:29:03.820 Because I believe that if I give a church planner a smoker and I set them loose and I teach them how to smoke and I say, 00:29:03.900 --> 00:29:04.100 Hey, 00:29:04.220 --> 00:29:06.240 go out into your community and start feeding people, 00:29:06.740 --> 00:29:11.800 find a place that you can set up where you can feed people and I'll teach you how to do it. 00:29:11.980 --> 00:29:13.500 And these people could make, 00:29:13.500 --> 00:29:14.540 you know, 00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:16.740 four to $10,000 on a weekend. 00:29:17.740 --> 00:29:22.920 And then they're not struggling anymore while they're trying to plant a church. 00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:27.580 And then they can feed their church with the smoker that we provide. 00:29:28.100 --> 00:29:32.160 Or I have a bunch of friends that are in campus ministry on college campuses. 00:29:32.620 --> 00:29:37.600 So why are you not smoking food out on the street on Friday, 00:29:37.740 --> 00:29:40.240 Saturday night and feeding these jokers? 00:29:41.620 --> 00:29:44.340 So that's what we're fundraising for. 00:29:45.360 --> 00:29:45.420 And, 00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:46.900 you know, 00:29:46.940 --> 00:29:48.860 cause we want to be, 00:29:49.780 --> 00:29:50.120 you know, 00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:52.780 God has called me to be a light in the darkness. 00:29:53.360 --> 00:29:55.220 And so I'm gonna keep lighting that fire. 00:29:55.940 --> 00:29:56.020 No, 00:29:56.080 --> 00:29:57.040 I love your, 00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:00.280 I totally blew past the pun. 00:30:00.500 --> 00:30:02.560 Thank you for drawing attention to that. 00:30:02.620 --> 00:30:05.680 So that it would just sit so much better in this conversation. 00:30:06.740 --> 00:30:07.160 Man, 00:30:07.220 --> 00:30:10.420 I love your heart with the multiplication aspect. 00:30:10.420 --> 00:30:11.160 You know, 00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:12.320 the helping the campus guys, 00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:13.140 helping the, 00:30:13.140 --> 00:30:14.700 the planters. 00:30:15.120 --> 00:30:19.520 And the idea of making $10,000 smoking meat on a weekend is really interesting to me. 00:30:19.620 --> 00:30:22.380 So maybe a offline conversation, 00:30:22.700 --> 00:30:25.640 but what's the, 00:30:25.960 --> 00:30:30.320 is when you've talked with planters or people, 00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:31.140 like, 00:30:31.220 --> 00:30:32.240 have you cast that vision? 00:30:32.620 --> 00:30:32.900 Of, 00:30:32.900 --> 00:30:33.840 of the possibilities? 00:30:34.180 --> 00:30:34.320 Like, 00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:34.520 are, 00:30:34.740 --> 00:30:36.860 would they be receptive to that? 00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:38.120 Have you heard people that are like, 00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:38.400 yes, 00:30:38.420 --> 00:30:39.440 I want to do that. 00:30:39.820 --> 00:30:40.320 You know, 00:30:40.320 --> 00:30:40.600 let's, 00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:41.340 let's figure it out. 00:30:41.420 --> 00:30:41.660 What's, 00:30:42.020 --> 00:30:43.180 what's been some of those responses? 00:30:43.600 --> 00:30:43.900 Oh yeah. 00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:44.560 I've, 00:30:44.620 --> 00:30:46.660 I've already talked with some campus missionaries. 00:30:47.740 --> 00:30:50.860 I've talked with different church planters and they say, 00:30:50.940 --> 00:30:52.300 that's a genius idea. 00:30:52.300 --> 00:30:53.920 That'd be something that I'd be willing to do. 00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:57.160 That's something that they would welcome. 00:30:57.840 --> 00:30:58.240 And, 00:30:58.360 --> 00:30:58.820 you know, 00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:04.060 there's a lot of times we don't do enough to help people who are planting. 00:31:04.860 --> 00:31:05.880 We don't do. 00:31:06.420 --> 00:31:07.320 It's like we, 00:31:07.700 --> 00:31:09.340 there's different organizations that'll say, 00:31:09.740 --> 00:31:09.860 yeah, 00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:11.120 it's so great that you're planting. 00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:11.700 Yay. 00:31:12.980 --> 00:31:15.200 But when it comes down to it, 00:31:15.260 --> 00:31:16.760 these guys are going to debt. 00:31:17.600 --> 00:31:25.360 They're putting stuff for their church on their personal credit card and they're struggling and their marriages are starting to deteriorate. 00:31:25.360 --> 00:31:32.160 And then we're closing churches as fast as we're launching them and churches aren't lasting more than five years. 00:31:32.800 --> 00:31:33.320 Well, 00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:35.660 if we can help them financially, 00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:40.060 that's one major hurdle that's taken out. 00:31:40.220 --> 00:31:41.060 What's the percentage? 00:31:41.320 --> 00:31:45.360 Let's just random percentage that I'll throw out without any type of research whatsoever. 00:31:45.580 --> 00:31:48.860 It's taken out 50% financial will take you out. 00:31:49.120 --> 00:31:51.300 It's a 50% chance that if your finances are bad, 00:31:51.380 --> 00:31:51.980 you'll close. 00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:53.640 So, 00:31:53.860 --> 00:31:55.440 I mean, 00:31:55.580 --> 00:31:57.740 if we can help these guys out, 00:31:57.900 --> 00:31:58.980 help these guys and girls out, 00:31:59.140 --> 00:32:00.300 that's everything. 00:32:01.260 --> 00:32:01.520 You know, 00:32:01.760 --> 00:32:08.540 I had a friend who just closed his church plant after five years and I was furious. 00:32:09.320 --> 00:32:10.640 And not with him, 00:32:11.040 --> 00:32:13.680 but just because he didn't have the help he needed. 00:32:14.360 --> 00:32:16.440 He didn't have the prayer support that he needed. 00:32:16.760 --> 00:32:20.260 He didn't have the people around him that would lock arms with him and said, 00:32:20.260 --> 00:32:20.580 all right, 00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:20.800 man, 00:32:20.840 --> 00:32:21.620 mom right here. 00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:22.940 Like we're good. 00:32:23.660 --> 00:32:24.060 And, 00:32:24.220 --> 00:32:24.660 you know, 00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:30.280 I went to a church planning conference years back and this guy was talking about, 00:32:30.580 --> 00:32:31.000 you know, 00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:32.060 when you're planting a church, 00:32:32.080 --> 00:32:34.180 you're sitting out here and it's like you're, 00:32:34.180 --> 00:32:39.960 what when you're shipwrecked off the island of Patmos and everybody's holding on the wood, 00:32:40.120 --> 00:32:40.900 you know, 00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:43.000 and you're just trying to stay afloat and, 00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:44.940 and everybody's standing up clapping. 00:32:45.060 --> 00:32:45.480 And I'm like, 00:32:46.260 --> 00:32:46.480 well, 00:32:46.540 --> 00:32:47.960 the dude preaching right now is in a boat. 00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:50.700 He's in a boat. 00:32:51.340 --> 00:32:52.440 You're the one in the water. 00:32:53.020 --> 00:32:54.420 You're the one holding on the shrapnel. 00:32:54.560 --> 00:32:55.480 That dude's in a boat. 00:32:56.740 --> 00:32:58.860 And as long as I have a boat, 00:32:59.060 --> 00:33:01.200 I'm not letting the people around me drown. 00:33:03.500 --> 00:33:04.260 And that's, 00:33:04.260 --> 00:33:06.520 and that's something that that's my heart. 00:33:07.140 --> 00:33:08.240 If I have a boat, 00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:09.980 I'm making sure people don't drown, 00:33:10.380 --> 00:33:11.040 you know, 00:33:11.100 --> 00:33:12.280 and I don't have a big boat, 00:33:12.560 --> 00:33:15.680 but I got life preservers and I'm willing to throw them out. 00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:20.680 And I got life saving rings and I'm willing to throw them out and attach them to my boat 00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:24.500 and help get them to safety because we're called to be capital C church. 00:33:25.220 --> 00:33:25.620 Again, 00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:26.780 I'm not building my kingdom. 00:33:27.100 --> 00:33:32.440 We're building a kingdom of God and we need to be out here helping people and making sure 00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:34.640 people aren't drowned and making sure their marriages aren't failing, 00:33:34.760 --> 00:33:38.460 making sure they're not running around with, 00:33:38.460 --> 00:33:39.780 you know, 00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:41.360 getting into affairs, 00:33:41.900 --> 00:33:42.980 stuff like that, 00:33:43.040 --> 00:33:43.300 man, 00:33:43.600 --> 00:33:44.320 like that's, 00:33:44.500 --> 00:33:45.280 it's too prevalent. 00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:48.820 So we need to help people. 00:33:49.520 --> 00:33:50.280 So you've done, 00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:51.220 man, 00:33:51.280 --> 00:33:51.560 I just, 00:33:51.700 --> 00:33:51.760 I, 00:33:52.020 --> 00:33:54.240 your heart to do, 00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:55.180 uh, 00:33:55.220 --> 00:33:55.620 to reach, 00:33:55.700 --> 00:33:56.300 to help the church, 00:33:56.400 --> 00:33:57.360 to help the planter. 00:33:57.480 --> 00:33:57.800 That's, 00:33:57.900 --> 00:33:58.380 that's beautiful. 00:33:58.580 --> 00:34:00.520 It sounds like you have a history of, 00:34:00.520 --> 00:34:01.480 of planting and, 00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:01.680 and, 00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:03.080 and have done that historically. 00:34:03.080 --> 00:34:03.440 And, 00:34:03.520 --> 00:34:04.040 and so, 00:34:04.180 --> 00:34:04.520 you know, 00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:05.700 um, 00:34:06.320 --> 00:34:08.580 you understand that world very well. 00:34:09.260 --> 00:34:09.740 Um, 00:34:10.100 --> 00:34:10.660 you know, 00:34:10.660 --> 00:34:11.420 I know we've, 00:34:11.420 --> 00:34:13.820 we've talked about different expressions of, 00:34:13.820 --> 00:34:14.580 of church. 00:34:15.220 --> 00:34:15.700 Um, 00:34:16.220 --> 00:34:16.500 you know, 00:34:16.500 --> 00:34:18.880 maybe one that doesn't necessarily look like the Sunday morning. 00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:21.920 There's a lot of digital that's involved in barbecue, 00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:24.900 but there's also not a lot of digital. 00:34:24.900 --> 00:34:30.040 You're talking very practical and very relational kind of face on where, 00:34:30.040 --> 00:34:30.680 uh, 00:34:30.900 --> 00:34:34.760 you just really are writing an interesting balance, 00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:35.260 uh, 00:34:35.260 --> 00:34:38.900 between physical and not with barbecue church and barbecue symbols of God. 00:34:39.540 --> 00:34:39.980 Um, 00:34:40.660 --> 00:34:43.840 are there other ideas or are there other things that, 00:34:43.940 --> 00:34:46.540 that you're thinking about or other expressions? 00:34:46.540 --> 00:34:47.100 Like when, 00:34:47.140 --> 00:34:48.360 when you look at other expressions, 00:34:48.360 --> 00:34:48.940 what are you, 00:34:49.420 --> 00:34:51.200 what are you thinking as an innovative guy? 00:34:51.200 --> 00:34:51.720 What are you thinking? 00:34:51.820 --> 00:34:52.600 What are you dreaming about? 00:34:53.620 --> 00:34:54.060 Man, 00:34:54.260 --> 00:34:56.540 there's so, 00:34:56.680 --> 00:34:58.760 there's so many different things that you could jump into, 00:34:59.180 --> 00:35:00.300 you know? 00:35:00.980 --> 00:35:01.500 Um, 00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:09.900 but anything that will pull people in a community around each other, 00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:10.480 like you, 00:35:10.620 --> 00:35:13.440 that will pull people together so that you can do life together. 00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:15.560 I think it's worth jumping into. 00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:18.360 I think it's worth jumping into. 00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:19.220 Um, 00:35:19.700 --> 00:35:20.920 even if it's, 00:35:21.200 --> 00:35:23.220 if you're talking breakfast church, 00:35:23.460 --> 00:35:28.360 and it's just a bunch of women who love breakfast, 00:35:28.520 --> 00:35:34.680 who are going to get together for breakfast once a month and talk about Jesus and do life together, 00:35:34.680 --> 00:35:36.860 then let's do it. 00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:39.580 Other people call it small groups and that's fine, 00:35:39.980 --> 00:35:40.560 you know, 00:35:40.980 --> 00:35:43.880 but can we rally around breakfast? 00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:45.080 You know, 00:35:45.120 --> 00:35:46.660 can we rally around brunch? 00:35:47.720 --> 00:35:48.080 You know, 00:35:48.240 --> 00:35:49.560 and, 00:35:49.680 --> 00:35:50.340 you know, 00:35:50.640 --> 00:35:52.140 can we rally around cars? 00:35:53.120 --> 00:35:53.380 Like, 00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:53.580 man, 00:35:53.600 --> 00:35:54.340 I love cars. 00:35:54.600 --> 00:35:54.940 Oh man, 00:35:54.980 --> 00:35:55.380 let's get, 00:35:55.520 --> 00:35:56.100 let's get together. 00:35:56.180 --> 00:36:00.060 Let's put our cars out in the back of an old Kmart parking lot. 00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:05.880 And let's hang out and show off our cars and pop the hood and let's sit there and not, 00:36:06.040 --> 00:36:11.860 and let's do life and let's get into people's lives and then see where they're at on their faith journey and see if we can move forward in that. 00:36:12.980 --> 00:36:13.420 Like, 00:36:13.680 --> 00:36:15.300 let's show off cars, 00:36:15.600 --> 00:36:16.560 you know, 00:36:16.620 --> 00:36:22.180 through videos and let's talk about the different aspects of a car and how it pertains to faith and, 00:36:22.420 --> 00:36:23.320 you know, 00:36:23.420 --> 00:36:26.400 walking it out and moving forward with Jesus. 00:36:27.160 --> 00:36:27.720 I mean, 00:36:27.740 --> 00:36:28.160 that's, 00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:30.060 I mean, 00:36:30.120 --> 00:36:30.460 it's, 00:36:30.820 --> 00:36:32.200 if you're passionate about it, 00:36:32.420 --> 00:36:33.280 I think it works. 00:36:34.660 --> 00:36:35.060 I just, 00:36:35.460 --> 00:36:36.860 barbecue just happens to be my thing. 00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:38.440 What is discipleship? 00:36:38.560 --> 00:36:39.680 What is evangelism? 00:36:40.160 --> 00:36:40.640 Like, 00:36:40.700 --> 00:36:43.460 what do these things look like for you? 00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:44.540 So you're, 00:36:44.620 --> 00:36:45.260 you're, 00:36:45.300 --> 00:36:45.980 you're preaching, 00:36:46.240 --> 00:36:47.700 you're feeding down to, 00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:50.000 no pun intended on the feeding, 00:36:50.140 --> 00:36:50.500 but you're, 00:36:50.540 --> 00:36:50.760 you're, 00:36:50.820 --> 00:36:52.320 you're pushing information down. 00:36:52.460 --> 00:36:52.640 You're, 00:36:52.700 --> 00:36:53.780 you're teaching down. 00:36:54.260 --> 00:36:59.160 What is like multiplication or spiritual development look like? 00:36:59.160 --> 00:37:00.660 Within the group. 00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:02.080 Have you gotten to some of that yet? 00:37:02.500 --> 00:37:02.700 Yes. 00:37:02.740 --> 00:37:09.280 We're actually building out a bunch of Bible reading plans because we've gotten requests. 00:37:09.900 --> 00:37:12.400 So when people give their lives to Jesus, 00:37:13.040 --> 00:37:13.340 you know, 00:37:13.380 --> 00:37:14.500 we use text in church. 00:37:14.500 --> 00:37:22.360 And so you text journey to my number and you get a 30 day devotional that's actually written by one of my really good friends. 00:37:23.260 --> 00:37:24.960 And so you get that. 00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:25.500 Well, 00:37:25.500 --> 00:37:26.640 then once that's over, 00:37:26.640 --> 00:37:28.840 people have been messaging me like, 00:37:29.040 --> 00:37:29.620 I need more, 00:37:29.780 --> 00:37:30.380 I need more. 00:37:31.420 --> 00:37:40.460 And so we've started to develop a Bible reading plan and a devotional system so that we can continue to reach people through that. 00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:44.400 And then that's also what we're going to utilize social media for. 00:37:45.160 --> 00:37:46.300 And extra, 00:37:46.700 --> 00:37:46.940 you know, 00:37:46.980 --> 00:37:47.580 in our website, 00:37:47.980 --> 00:37:48.180 you know, 00:37:48.220 --> 00:37:52.100 just throwing out extra videos that are discipleship based. 00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:54.600 And I have a guy who's willing to do it. 00:37:55.020 --> 00:38:00.180 I just need to give him the stuff that he needs to be able to build it. 00:38:01.100 --> 00:38:01.540 But, 00:38:01.620 --> 00:38:06.180 and then he'll handle most of the discipleship side of it. 00:38:07.160 --> 00:38:08.080 And him, 00:38:08.220 --> 00:38:09.220 him and my mom, 00:38:09.500 --> 00:38:11.700 because my mom is a part of my team. 00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:12.760 So let's, 00:38:12.900 --> 00:38:13.400 so I want to, 00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:15.260 I want to unpack the mom here in a second, 00:38:15.420 --> 00:38:15.920 because that's, 00:38:15.940 --> 00:38:16.680 that's interesting. 00:38:17.020 --> 00:38:17.760 But what, 00:38:17.860 --> 00:38:21.660 so what you've done is you basically partnered with somebody else. 00:38:21.660 --> 00:38:22.020 You're, 00:38:22.080 --> 00:38:22.260 you're, 00:38:22.380 --> 00:38:22.860 you're busy. 00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:24.940 That's that discipleship may not be us. 00:38:25.020 --> 00:38:26.320 But it's, 00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:28.240 it's a necessary component. 00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:30.240 And so you're bringing in someone else to, 00:38:30.340 --> 00:38:32.160 to manage that piece. 00:38:32.160 --> 00:38:33.960 And that's that person, 00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:35.400 or even your mom included is, 00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:35.980 is more, 00:38:36.060 --> 00:38:38.380 it's more passionate about that. 00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:40.080 And it's taking over some of those responsibilities. 00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:40.900 Yeah. 00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:41.640 Yeah. 00:38:42.040 --> 00:38:43.160 So talk to me about mom. 00:38:43.460 --> 00:38:47.000 If you come to the barbecue battle and Fort Lauderdale, 00:38:47.080 --> 00:38:47.680 you'll meet her. 00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:49.320 Oh, 00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:50.240 I cannot wait. 00:38:50.540 --> 00:38:50.860 Oh yeah. 00:38:51.660 --> 00:38:55.000 So my mom is 57 years old. 00:38:55.020 --> 00:39:00.020 And so, 00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:02.800 and which if you start doing math, 00:39:02.860 --> 00:39:03.080 you're like, 00:39:03.120 --> 00:39:03.380 hold on, 00:39:03.420 --> 00:39:04.120 how old is Andre? 00:39:05.420 --> 00:39:05.820 Right. 00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:07.640 My mom had me when she was 14 years old. 00:39:09.260 --> 00:39:11.540 And so my mom is, 00:39:11.860 --> 00:39:13.160 my mom is one of my best friends. 00:39:13.600 --> 00:39:14.480 She just is. 00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:16.940 Always has been. 00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:18.100 And so, 00:39:18.700 --> 00:39:20.560 and my mom is, 00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:21.180 you know, 00:39:21.680 --> 00:39:23.000 my mom is a prayer person. 00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:24.060 She prays heavy. 00:39:24.900 --> 00:39:29.660 She loves her kids and she's always set us up for success. 00:39:30.560 --> 00:39:32.300 And so this is, 00:39:32.420 --> 00:39:35.540 she wanted to be a part of barbecue church, 00:39:35.540 --> 00:39:36.200 her and her husband. 00:39:36.200 --> 00:39:36.940 And then they are, 00:39:37.080 --> 00:39:39.480 they helped me with my thought processes. 00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:40.520 They helped me. 00:39:41.820 --> 00:39:43.900 They helped me think through like, 00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:44.720 what's next? 00:39:44.900 --> 00:39:46.300 What do we need to be doing next? 00:39:46.520 --> 00:39:48.520 And she helps me not get too, 00:39:48.580 --> 00:39:50.120 too into the clouds. 00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:52.340 She pulls me back and goes, 00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:53.060 Andre, 00:39:53.120 --> 00:39:53.860 you need to stop. 00:39:54.700 --> 00:39:55.180 And, 00:39:55.260 --> 00:39:56.520 you know, 00:39:56.580 --> 00:39:58.800 and I don't just brush her off because she's my mom. 00:39:59.420 --> 00:39:59.840 I, 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:00.920 I listen. 00:40:02.940 --> 00:40:03.380 And, 00:40:03.560 --> 00:40:03.740 but, 00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:04.220 you know, 00:40:04.240 --> 00:40:06.440 no one prays for me more than my mom and my wife. 00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:14.860 And so my mom's on the team and she's a fireball. 00:40:15.520 --> 00:40:15.800 So, 00:40:16.140 --> 00:40:18.340 but is she like, 00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:20.740 what does she contribute? 00:40:20.940 --> 00:40:22.140 Not technological, 00:40:22.140 --> 00:40:24.140 I would imagine relational, 00:40:24.700 --> 00:40:28.420 just mom able to slap you upside the head and tell you to stop. 00:40:28.500 --> 00:40:29.000 Like what's, 00:40:29.060 --> 00:40:29.500 what's the, 00:40:30.120 --> 00:40:30.380 what, 00:40:30.460 --> 00:40:30.900 what's her, 00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:31.700 what's your contribution? 00:40:32.260 --> 00:40:33.220 She is, 00:40:33.420 --> 00:40:34.560 she's the prayer person. 00:40:35.460 --> 00:40:36.640 She's the prayer person. 00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:39.260 She's the discipleship like thought of, 00:40:39.380 --> 00:40:40.680 did you think about this? 00:40:41.520 --> 00:40:43.040 Did you pray about this yet? 00:40:43.500 --> 00:40:43.720 Okay. 00:40:43.720 --> 00:40:44.540 So you're doing this. 00:40:44.640 --> 00:40:44.780 Okay. 00:40:44.780 --> 00:40:45.000 No, 00:40:45.040 --> 00:40:46.060 we need to pray about that. 00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:47.280 Or, 00:40:47.500 --> 00:40:49.180 you know, 00:40:49.220 --> 00:40:50.080 I was thinking, 00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:50.640 you know, 00:40:50.660 --> 00:40:51.880 you start thinking through like, 00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:52.180 okay, 00:40:52.180 --> 00:40:52.820 we need to, 00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:54.380 we need to try. 00:40:54.500 --> 00:40:56.420 We need to try and get a truck, 00:40:56.880 --> 00:40:57.080 you know, 00:40:57.100 --> 00:40:58.620 and get this whole truck situation going. 00:40:59.140 --> 00:40:59.580 So I'm like, 00:40:59.620 --> 00:40:59.720 well, 00:40:59.720 --> 00:41:00.020 mom, 00:41:00.120 --> 00:41:00.600 what if I, 00:41:00.900 --> 00:41:02.080 what if I just reach out and say, 00:41:02.200 --> 00:41:02.480 Hey, 00:41:02.820 --> 00:41:03.160 you know, 00:41:03.200 --> 00:41:05.160 if a thousand people give this much money, 00:41:05.160 --> 00:41:05.900 we'll be there. 00:41:06.020 --> 00:41:06.700 And she goes, 00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:07.120 Andre, 00:41:07.340 --> 00:41:17.080 I don't think that that's wise because that leads back to that old school church vibe of where, 00:41:17.080 --> 00:41:20.280 that I used to sit in these services where people would, 00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:20.700 they would do, 00:41:20.700 --> 00:41:22.040 here's the thousand dollar line. 00:41:22.140 --> 00:41:23.300 Here's the hundred dollar line. 00:41:23.860 --> 00:41:24.620 And my mom goes, 00:41:25.180 --> 00:41:25.540 she goes, 00:41:25.540 --> 00:41:29.720 that comes off as manipulation and that's not who we are. 00:41:30.340 --> 00:41:31.500 And so you're not doing that. 00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:32.260 And I'm like, 00:41:32.340 --> 00:41:33.100 you're right. 00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:39.340 And so she really helps me see things differently because I'll just start running. 00:41:40.100 --> 00:41:41.100 And she goes, 00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:41.840 no, 00:41:41.840 --> 00:41:43.200 let's pray about this. 00:41:43.720 --> 00:41:43.980 No, 00:41:44.120 --> 00:41:45.160 let's think about this. 00:41:45.820 --> 00:41:46.940 And so she's kind of, 00:41:47.160 --> 00:41:48.260 she kind of helps, 00:41:48.580 --> 00:41:51.900 helps me bounce things off of her. 00:41:52.740 --> 00:41:52.860 And, 00:41:52.980 --> 00:41:54.040 you know, 00:41:54.560 --> 00:41:55.300 she keeps you grounded. 00:41:55.300 --> 00:41:55.300 She keeps you grounded. 00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:56.080 Yes, 00:41:56.460 --> 00:41:57.340 very much so. 00:41:57.780 --> 00:41:57.940 Man, 00:41:57.980 --> 00:41:59.920 if somebody wanted to get started doing this, 00:42:00.580 --> 00:42:01.800 I'm not probably from church, 00:42:02.040 --> 00:42:02.220 maybe, 00:42:02.220 --> 00:42:02.800 maybe sushi. 00:42:02.980 --> 00:42:03.320 I don't know. 00:42:03.320 --> 00:42:06.340 If somebody wanted to get started with a missional imagination, 00:42:06.460 --> 00:42:07.480 doing some crazy idea, 00:42:07.680 --> 00:42:09.220 like what, 00:42:09.240 --> 00:42:10.000 what are some obstacles? 00:42:10.100 --> 00:42:10.820 What are some challenges? 00:42:10.940 --> 00:42:11.540 How do they start? 00:42:12.100 --> 00:42:12.280 Pray. 00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:13.800 If, 00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:17.000 if God is calling you to do it and it's in your heart to do, 00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:18.820 and it's the thing that he's speaking, 00:42:19.220 --> 00:42:20.000 then you do it. 00:42:21.620 --> 00:42:22.620 You figure it out. 00:42:22.700 --> 00:42:24.320 You figure out what your platform is going to be. 00:42:24.420 --> 00:42:27.720 You figure out how you're going to do it and you write out the steps and 00:42:27.720 --> 00:42:29.140 then you just start walking it out. 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:31.320 That's, 00:42:31.420 --> 00:42:31.960 that's it. 00:42:32.060 --> 00:42:32.920 Don't wait for the money. 00:42:33.280 --> 00:42:35.160 Don't wait for all this. 00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:36.840 Figure out what you have in your hand, 00:42:36.900 --> 00:42:39.420 what's available to you and do it with what you have. 00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:41.400 And, 00:42:41.540 --> 00:42:42.940 and that's it. 00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:45.000 And God does the rest. 00:42:45.780 --> 00:42:47.740 Because if this all fails, 00:42:47.740 --> 00:42:48.120 if, 00:42:48.120 --> 00:42:48.440 if, 00:42:48.440 --> 00:42:51.540 if the sermon only gets two views, 00:42:51.620 --> 00:42:54.760 somebody got something. 00:42:55.600 --> 00:42:57.500 If no one gave their life to the Lord, 00:42:57.620 --> 00:42:59.120 at least you gave a hundred percent. 00:43:00.640 --> 00:43:03.020 At least you were obedient with what you had. 00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:03.780 Do, 00:43:03.980 --> 00:43:05.660 do you consider yourself an influencer? 00:43:06.060 --> 00:43:06.800 I mean, 00:43:07.260 --> 00:43:09.460 I have influence in certain circles. 00:43:09.680 --> 00:43:09.960 So, 00:43:10.580 --> 00:43:10.880 I mean, 00:43:10.940 --> 00:43:12.200 maybe it's, 00:43:12.200 --> 00:43:12.840 it's interesting. 00:43:12.940 --> 00:43:13.280 I've been, 00:43:13.600 --> 00:43:15.720 we've been talking about the word influencer, 00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:16.860 whether or not it fits. 00:43:16.860 --> 00:43:17.760 And so I apologize. 00:43:17.860 --> 00:43:18.340 It's funny. 00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:20.900 Your response is actually what I was expecting. 00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:23.860 you have influenced, 00:43:24.100 --> 00:43:27.500 but influencer means something else. 00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:28.400 Maybe. 00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:29.260 I don't know. 00:43:29.720 --> 00:43:29.920 It's, 00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:30.360 it's been a, 00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:32.460 it's been a conversation with that behind closed doors. 00:43:32.640 --> 00:43:32.740 So, 00:43:33.140 --> 00:43:33.540 I mean, 00:43:33.900 --> 00:43:36.700 most of the people that label themselves influencers, 00:43:36.700 --> 00:43:38.960 aren't the type of people I want to be around. 00:43:43.460 --> 00:43:46.760 So they're the type of people that like, 00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:47.740 just if, 00:43:47.820 --> 00:43:51.220 if they have the label influencer in their title, 00:43:52.420 --> 00:43:52.760 they, 00:43:52.940 --> 00:43:55.900 they're not really the type of people that I rock with. 00:43:57.580 --> 00:43:58.020 So, 00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:00.720 so when I hear it, 00:44:00.720 --> 00:44:01.840 it's almost a, 00:44:02.340 --> 00:44:04.140 it's a term that I'm kind of, 00:44:04.140 --> 00:44:06.520 I'm reserved about. 00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:07.500 I'm like, 00:44:07.580 --> 00:44:07.920 uh, 00:44:08.120 --> 00:44:09.940 I don't really like people that are called that. 00:44:11.460 --> 00:44:11.900 So, 00:44:12.160 --> 00:44:13.640 so it's, 00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:17.060 so it might be a little bit more why I'm kind of more hesitant with it. 00:44:17.600 --> 00:44:19.460 Cause you know, 00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:21.020 people like it, 00:44:21.100 --> 00:44:23.360 what is Elon Musk and an influencer? 00:44:24.640 --> 00:44:26.200 Would he be considered an influencer? 00:44:26.760 --> 00:44:27.020 I mean, 00:44:27.060 --> 00:44:27.420 I would. 00:44:27.880 --> 00:44:29.220 He's not a guy I would hang out with. 00:44:29.560 --> 00:44:30.760 Not a fan of Tesla's. 00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:31.640 You, 00:44:31.640 --> 00:44:32.760 you abandoning Twitter. 00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:33.360 Oh no, 00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:33.600 I'll, 00:44:33.680 --> 00:44:33.860 I'll, 00:44:33.960 --> 00:44:34.200 no, 00:44:34.240 --> 00:44:34.840 I'll have one. 00:44:35.020 --> 00:44:35.900 I'll have one someday. 00:44:37.080 --> 00:44:38.380 Cause my wife wants it. 00:44:38.900 --> 00:44:40.280 But like, 00:44:40.660 --> 00:44:42.960 but Elon and I are going to be going out for brunch. 00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:43.760 So you, 00:44:43.780 --> 00:44:44.380 you think it's, 00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:45.380 there's a prestige. 00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:47.320 Or a. 00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:48.800 Class. 00:44:49.340 --> 00:44:49.780 Difference. 00:44:50.300 --> 00:44:50.580 Not. 00:44:50.760 --> 00:44:52.080 It's not a class difference. 00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:54.620 There's an attitude about an influencer. 00:44:54.640 --> 00:44:55.560 That just. 00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:57.040 Bothers me. 00:44:58.020 --> 00:44:58.240 Okay. 00:44:59.460 --> 00:44:59.680 I mean, 00:44:59.720 --> 00:44:59.940 it, 00:45:00.020 --> 00:45:00.660 it's just, 00:45:00.860 --> 00:45:02.040 it just bothers me. 00:45:02.140 --> 00:45:03.540 It's not that you're a bad person. 00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:06.480 It's that in order for you to influence, 00:45:06.600 --> 00:45:08.300 you have to influence in a certain way. 00:45:08.720 --> 00:45:12.120 And that type of influence isn't the type of influence that I want to have. 00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:14.400 I, 00:45:14.540 --> 00:45:15.180 I just, 00:45:15.340 --> 00:45:16.400 I don't want, 00:45:16.780 --> 00:45:19.300 I don't want that type of influence. 00:45:20.780 --> 00:45:21.180 I, 00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:23.140 I want to bring. 00:45:24.140 --> 00:45:25.120 Barbecue to the world. 00:45:25.140 --> 00:45:25.800 I want to. 00:45:26.680 --> 00:45:27.080 Yes. 00:45:27.860 --> 00:45:28.580 But I, 00:45:28.640 --> 00:45:31.200 I want to set people up to meet Jesus. 00:45:33.080 --> 00:45:33.520 Like, 00:45:33.560 --> 00:45:34.000 I'm just, 00:45:34.160 --> 00:45:35.680 I'm just a connection point. 00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:36.060 I'm like, 00:45:36.160 --> 00:45:36.380 Hey, 00:45:36.660 --> 00:45:36.960 listen, 00:45:37.020 --> 00:45:40.840 I got this relationship with this person over here that can help change your life. 00:45:41.080 --> 00:45:44.900 And he wants a relationship with you because the relationship was broken. 00:45:45.380 --> 00:45:46.900 And so I, 00:45:46.900 --> 00:45:47.700 I just need you to, 00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:49.220 I just need you to meet him real quick. 00:45:50.340 --> 00:45:50.820 That, 00:45:51.120 --> 00:45:52.080 that's my job. 00:45:52.300 --> 00:45:53.720 I want influence there. 00:45:55.020 --> 00:45:55.380 Um, 00:45:55.600 --> 00:45:57.200 so the other, 00:45:57.480 --> 00:45:59.360 the other type of influence is, 00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:01.960 man, 00:46:02.220 --> 00:46:04.680 it's not what I want. 00:46:05.180 --> 00:46:05.620 No, 00:46:05.680 --> 00:46:05.800 I, 00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:05.960 I, 00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:07.060 I think that that's good. 00:46:07.120 --> 00:46:08.200 We've been wrestling with 00:46:08.200 --> 00:46:12.760 some of the negative connotations of the word influencer. 00:46:13.100 --> 00:46:13.540 Like, 00:46:13.620 --> 00:46:14.000 is it, 00:46:14.040 --> 00:46:14.500 is it good? 00:46:14.560 --> 00:46:15.140 Is it bad? 00:46:15.780 --> 00:46:16.260 Um, 00:46:17.020 --> 00:46:17.580 is, 00:46:18.080 --> 00:46:19.220 is it helpful? 00:46:19.660 --> 00:46:23.320 Do we have to explain our interpretation of influencer? 00:46:23.460 --> 00:46:24.300 Everybody has influence. 00:46:24.460 --> 00:46:25.080 We're all influencers. 00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:26.440 And, 00:46:26.440 --> 00:46:26.940 um, 00:46:27.680 --> 00:46:27.980 you know, 00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:30.680 some people understand that some people it's not worth the fight. 00:46:30.900 --> 00:46:31.700 And so it's been, 00:46:31.860 --> 00:46:35.180 it's been interesting because there are internally some of the, 00:46:35.180 --> 00:46:36.400 the conversations we've found that, 00:46:36.520 --> 00:46:36.760 but I, 00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:38.000 I really appreciate your, 00:46:38.140 --> 00:46:38.980 uh, 00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:39.220 your, 00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:39.420 your, 00:46:39.420 --> 00:46:40.160 your vibe here. 00:46:40.500 --> 00:46:40.940 Hey, 00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:43.520 so like if somebody wanted to get connected to, 00:46:43.520 --> 00:46:44.660 um, 00:46:45.580 --> 00:46:46.420 barbecue church, 00:46:46.540 --> 00:46:47.460 barbecue assemblies of God, 00:46:47.520 --> 00:46:48.200 where are they finding? 00:46:48.600 --> 00:46:49.160 I mean, 00:46:49.600 --> 00:46:55.720 so our main website is barbecue church spelled out barbecue with a C the real way. 00:46:56.000 --> 00:46:56.240 The, 00:46:56.300 --> 00:47:00.020 the proper English way it's barbecue church.com. 00:47:01.120 --> 00:47:01.680 And, 00:47:01.800 --> 00:47:03.260 and then there's, 00:47:03.260 --> 00:47:25.980 if my event program.com slash Andre is a really good one because it shows you my event program and my event program.com slash Andre is one of the best because it has all of my information. 00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:27.540 Very cool. 00:47:28.300 --> 00:47:28.480 All right. 00:47:28.500 --> 00:47:28.840 Hey man, 00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:29.200 listen, 00:47:29.380 --> 00:47:31.020 that's literally everything that I do. 00:47:31.500 --> 00:47:31.840 I know. 00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:32.100 I've, 00:47:32.100 --> 00:47:32.420 I've, 00:47:32.420 --> 00:47:32.660 I've, 00:47:32.740 --> 00:47:33.880 I've loved this conversation. 00:47:34.020 --> 00:47:34.580 This has been, 00:47:34.580 --> 00:47:35.000 um, 00:47:35.560 --> 00:47:36.340 more honestly, 00:47:36.380 --> 00:47:37.820 it's been a little more free flowing than, 00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:38.100 than, 00:47:38.100 --> 00:47:38.320 uh, 00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:38.820 the typical. 00:47:38.820 --> 00:47:39.460 And man, 00:47:39.460 --> 00:47:39.780 you just, 00:47:39.900 --> 00:47:41.720 you've got the great vibe kind of hanging out, 00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:42.820 um, 00:47:43.060 --> 00:47:44.160 literally in the hotel, 00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:45.300 getting ready to go do it, 00:47:45.340 --> 00:47:46.680 do a job here in, 00:47:46.740 --> 00:47:47.280 in a little bit, 00:47:47.300 --> 00:47:48.580 but excited to talk with you, 00:47:48.580 --> 00:47:49.480 uh, 00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:49.900 man about, 00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:51.100 about barbecue church, 00:47:51.100 --> 00:47:51.660 about, 00:47:51.660 --> 00:47:52.400 uh, 00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:53.180 different expressions, 00:47:53.180 --> 00:47:54.460 thinking outside the box, 00:47:54.460 --> 00:47:55.320 innovation, 00:47:55.320 --> 00:47:56.120 and, 00:47:56.200 --> 00:47:56.380 uh, 00:47:56.380 --> 00:47:56.640 just, 00:47:56.780 --> 00:47:57.540 just going for it. 00:47:57.600 --> 00:47:57.960 And what a, 00:47:58.380 --> 00:47:59.040 what an inspiration, 00:47:59.180 --> 00:47:59.720 what a story, 00:47:59.720 --> 00:48:00.540 um, 00:48:00.680 --> 00:48:02.220 you've had putting this thing together and, 00:48:02.220 --> 00:48:03.320 and making it happen. 00:48:03.560 --> 00:48:05.500 And it's exciting to see how God is, 00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:07.400 God is using this like in, 00:48:07.500 --> 00:48:08.340 in real time, 00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:09.820 just even to impact people, 00:48:09.820 --> 00:48:10.960 uh, 00:48:11.220 --> 00:48:11.680 you know, 00:48:11.700 --> 00:48:12.420 and people that you, 00:48:12.500 --> 00:48:13.360 you don't even know. 00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:13.900 So that's, 00:48:13.900 --> 00:48:14.500 that's really cool. 00:48:15.140 --> 00:48:15.460 Um, 00:48:16.240 --> 00:48:17.240 is we're landing the plane here. 00:48:17.340 --> 00:48:17.480 Any, 00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:18.280 any closing thoughts? 00:48:18.960 --> 00:48:20.360 It's funny cause I'm, 00:48:20.500 --> 00:48:21.720 I'm just trying to think through, 00:48:21.980 --> 00:48:24.140 I'm trying to think through your audience and, 00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:25.420 you know, 00:48:25.580 --> 00:48:28.160 it's most likely a bunch of these guys who, 00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:34.940 guys and girls who are just trying to do random stuff that everyone else may not even like 00:48:34.940 --> 00:48:39.140 and may not think is actually viable or they don't think, 00:48:39.540 --> 00:48:39.620 Oh, 00:48:39.680 --> 00:48:40.600 that's not ministry. 00:48:41.720 --> 00:48:43.960 And I just say, 00:48:44.060 --> 00:48:44.480 look, 00:48:44.900 --> 00:48:46.180 do what you're called to do. 00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:48.780 Just do what you're called to do. 00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:51.080 You don't need approval from anybody. 00:48:51.260 --> 00:48:53.600 You don't need anybody to co-sign you. 00:48:54.120 --> 00:48:57.680 All you need is you and Jesus moving forward. 00:48:58.460 --> 00:48:59.640 Make sure you're praying, 00:49:00.140 --> 00:49:04.440 make sure you're in the word and make sure you're doing exactly what he's called you to do. 00:49:04.560 --> 00:49:05.940 And that's all you can do. 00:49:07.120 --> 00:49:07.760 That's it. 00:49:08.080 --> 00:49:13.000 And just don't get hung up on everyone else and what everyone else is doing. 00:49:13.200 --> 00:49:14.180 It doesn't matter. 00:49:14.260 --> 00:49:15.420 It doesn't have to look like them. 00:49:16.200 --> 00:49:17.720 Everyone else wants cookie cutter, 00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:20.940 but most likely you weren't made to be cookie cutter. 00:49:21.060 --> 00:49:21.940 So just keep going. 00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:23.560 And then in the end, 00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:25.020 people will come back and say, 00:49:25.120 --> 00:49:26.100 I knew them when, 00:49:26.200 --> 00:49:28.200 or I knew this was going to work, 00:49:28.380 --> 00:49:30.920 but you'll remember the conversations and have grace. 00:49:31.500 --> 00:49:35.900 And I'm speaking to myself because I'm the guy that I remember those conversations and I don't want to have grace. 00:49:36.940 --> 00:49:41.140 I want to tell everybody to keep that same energy they had when they told me it wasn't going to work. 00:49:42.060 --> 00:49:44.800 But we need to be a gracious people. 00:49:45.560 --> 00:49:51.760 So be gracious and keep fighting the fight and watch God do things in people's lives. 00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:53.340 And let's keep leading people to Jesus. 00:49:54.340 --> 00:49:56.820 And enjoy some smoked sushi at some point. 00:49:58.580 --> 00:49:59.560 I'm telling you, 00:49:59.620 --> 00:50:00.860 you're going to get pictures of this. 00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:01.800 Awesome. 00:50:02.020 --> 00:50:02.300 So yeah, 00:50:02.340 --> 00:50:02.460 hey, 00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:03.600 we're going to hang out in, 00:50:03.600 --> 00:50:07.000 in Fort Lauderdale here early next year. 00:50:07.200 --> 00:50:08.200 So excited about that. 00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:08.500 But hey, 00:50:08.500 --> 00:50:09.320 we're going to land the plane. 00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:11.100 It's been a great conversation. 00:50:11.260 --> 00:50:11.580 Andre, 00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:13.260 the, 00:50:13.340 --> 00:50:15.260 the man with eight jobs, 00:50:15.420 --> 00:50:18.980 including lead pastor of barbecue church, 00:50:19.040 --> 00:50:19.180 man. 00:50:19.220 --> 00:50:21.000 Thanks for jumping on the podcast. 00:50:21.120 --> 00:50:21.340 Like I said, 00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:22.680 we're going to land the plane for Andre. 00:50:22.820 --> 00:50:25.640 This is Jeff with the church digital and a bunch of other stuff. 00:50:25.800 --> 00:50:27.720 Thanks for jumping on the show here. 00:50:27.780 --> 00:50:28.720 We'll see you next time on the pod. 00:50:29.080 --> 00:50:29.560 Y'all have a good day.