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 What I love about these initiatives is as, because it's, you've got it digitally,

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 this knowledge can be distributed through to our digital churches, but it also can be

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 distributed through our digital churches to the people that we're connecting with all over

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 America and the world. And so like we can have a church that's operating in Facebook and they can

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 be encouraging their attenders, their members, the people that are connected with the church,

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 they can be encouraging them to help with foster families in their communities. Like it's almost

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 like this idea is getting distributed two times, multiple times, not just distributed to a digital

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 church, but through a digital church into areas that maybe even the church doesn't exist within

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 that zip code. So we're really kind of breaking a paradigm here of what local ministry means

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 through a digital church context. Welcome to the Church Digital Podcast. Through this podcast,

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 we'll talk about the technological innovations within the church, but more than tech for tech itself,

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 we'll address deeper questions. Is disciple making possible digitally? How should we approach the

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 digital mission field? Can a biblically grounded church operate in digital space? Oh, and where does

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 the metaverse fit into all this? Whether you're a big or small church, an established church, or a startup

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 church plant, the Church Digital's goal is to help churches like yours learn to be a multiplying church,

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 digitally and physically. Our heart? That churches like yours will discover a newfound focus on

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 disciple making that will revolutionize your church. And now here's your host, Jeff Reed.

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 Hey, all right. It's episode 245. Jeff here with the Church Digital Podcast and excited about this

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 conversation we're going to get into in just a little bit. I've been wanting to shed light to have a

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 conversation with these gentlemen talking about this topic for literally months. I found out about this

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 idea and just through scheduling and issues that we're going to have a solid conversation that's going to

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 open up a whole new paradigm of ministry for our digital churches and churches that are operating

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 online. But before we get into that conversation, I just want to remind us as we're wrapping up

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 2022, there's an opportunity to engage with He Gets Us. And you see with He Gets Us, it's this global

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 ad campaign. You may have seen the ads on Major League Baseball, NFL games, NBA. Guess what? There's a

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 couple ads coming with the Super Bowl. Like it's going to be this incredible opportunity to connect

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 lost people, spiritual explorers, people that are asking spiritual questions and get them connected

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 to churches like yours. Now there's a phenomenal opportunity to get these people connected to the

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 local church, churches that operate in physical buildings. But there's a problem. The demand of the

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 people that have these spiritual questions are more than the supply of churches that exist.

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 And we're looking for churches that can operate in digital space, that can disciple somebody digitally

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 to really deal with this mass of people that are asking spiritual questions. Literally, there are

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 people asking spiritual questions where there is not a church to partner with. And that's where these

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 digital churches like yours come into play. And so if you're interested, 12 months free. And you get to

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 slash he gets us. By the way, he gets us pairs so well with the conversation that we're about to have

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 here with one more child. And so I want to introduce to the conversation, Robert Zirin. And Panos, I promise this

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 is not how you say his name, but I'm not going to do it. So it's Panos, I'm going to say Cortezus, but it's

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 wrong. And so Panos, I've known for quite a while, Panos, like I'm trying to think, where did we used to work

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 together at Christ Fellowship Miami? And I mean, when did you start at Cia? How far back do we go?

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 I think almost nine years. I think nine years ago, we would have some Starbucks brainstorming meetings.

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 I remember those meetings. Just we had great times. So yeah, I remember about nine years ago, we started

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 with our Starbucks meetings and then also being part of staff meetings. And you were always the digital,

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 you were always the go-to for digital and for digital church and for what online looked like.

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 And so I'm so happy to see what you're doing now. And the church digital, it's absolutely incredible.

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 The whole network and the nonprofit, everything that's incorporated. And we're looking forward to

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 working with you guys. Definitely. And so one more child. Well, you know what? I don't want to tell

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 the story. Robert, would you tell the story, how we got for one more child, what it was, what it is now,

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 maybe even start to tease here about some of these initiatives that you're doing every child or every

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 city. Talk about what one more child, what we're doing in this conversation today.

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 Most definitely. And thank you, Jeff, so much for having us. We truly appreciate it. Love what you're

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 doing. Love your podcast. So one more child started in 1904. It actually started in Arcadia, Florida as an

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 orphanage. So since 1904, it's really expanded that we're not only in Florida anymore, but we're around the

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 country and we're around the globe. So one more child started off as an orphanage, but now we're doing so much

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 more. We're doing work with foster care, with single moms, anti-trafficking victims, struggling families, and much

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 more.

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 And so it's been really fun to see one more child, at least where I knew them. It was the Florida

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 Baptist Children's Home. And that's what it was in recent years. But there was a pivot to move.

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 Did you see how I did the pivot? Like the friends, totally unconscious. Did not mean the accent pivot.

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 Pivot. Moving on. But there was this move to pivot away from meeting physical needs like in an orphanage

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 and actually moving a lot of these services online. So Panos, maybe talk to us a little bit

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 about maybe what some of those pivots and maybe what some of those services now are online.

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 Absolutely. Yeah. So what I like to say is that over the decades, we've always been as an organization

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 on the forefront of providing the best services for children and families at the time. So our mission

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 being to provide Christ-centered services to vulnerable children and struggling families. We've done that so

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 well since the beginning as an orphanage and then for decades as a children's homes. And so we have

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 campuses scattered throughout the state of Florida where we had children's homes for decades,

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 and that was the best standard of care for the time. And now looking at today, looking at the past few

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 years, we've seen that there's been a change for the best standard of children in that best standard

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 of care where we want to be able to wrap around children and families that are in need. And so it's

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 not just children's homes. We're talking about looking at it preventatively, looking at upstream issues

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 in terms of being proactive. How do we wrap around a child and their guardians and their siblings

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 all together? And so what we've done is we've evolved and we've actually somewhat outgrown

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 the name. So we're no longer just Florida. So Florida Baptist Children's Home, we're no longer

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 just Florida. We're branching out into other states with our programming, both campus and specific

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 programming, and then also with our initiatives. But we're also outgrown Baptists. We still have

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 strong relationships with our Baptist roots and family. But we are working with churches that are

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 for Jesus and that are saying, hey, look, we want to provide Christ-centered services to children and

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 families in our areas. And so they're no longer children's homes. And so we've outgrown that name.

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 And so we are one more child, which is much more appropriate to see the pillars in how we

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 work to provide services to children and families. And so what we're excited to talk about today is

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 something called One More Child Initiatives. And so what we've done is we have provided for many years

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 really great on-site programming with our single moms programs, where we have transition homes for moms

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 to live on campus for 12 months. They save money in a savings account. And then through the 12 months,

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 they are paired with a spiritual mentor, financing classes, parenting classes, they receive additional

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 aid. And then that's their one-year transition program for our single moms. Our foster programs,

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 what we do is we provide recruiting and licensing to recruit Christian families to enter into the

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 foster community to take in children that are in need of a home. Anti-trafficking, we were known for

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 being able to provide a safe home. And currently, we have mobile response teams in which

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 we have teams that go out and work with survivors of trafficking. And we specialize with working with

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 children or anyone under the age of 18 in terms of that. And so for years, we were doing these things

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 really great as our organization. But we realized that we do things great on our campuses, in our

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 buildings, in our programs. But what we wanted to do is we wanted to shift and pluck best practices from

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 what we've been doing for years and put those back in the church. And so that's what initiatives are.

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 What we've done is we've taken best practices from each of our pillar programs and we've provided and

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 we've created these initiatives. And so each of our initiatives are absolutely incredible. That

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 mobilizes churches to be able to serve their community in ways that we have been doing,

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 but in a way that really takes it away out of our campuses and puts it back in the church,

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 in the community. And the church shines as the beacon of hope for their zip code in their neighborhoods.

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 And I know Robert can share some more specifics in terms of each of our initiatives.

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 Yeah. So I want to drill in and Robert, we'll get to that in one second. But what I think is so

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 genius about this, and I love the fact that you said beacon of hope, like that's such an uplifting

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 term. But you did this, you put these initiatives, you plucked this out of the campuses and you put it

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 online. And so there's an opportunity for a physical church. Like we have, we have a, you know, a mutual

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 friend that I know, Dave Lopez and Dave's been on the show at the years ago and, and, and done some

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 stuff and talked with us. And Dave's like, you know, Panos, you gave us a local missions department.

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 And Dave's physical church now has utilizes some of those, the programming and some of that not tied to

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 your, your campus, but it's now doing that within the physical church cornerstone that's, that's

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 located here in Miami. What I love about these initiatives is as, uh, because it's, you've got it

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 digitally, this knowledge can be distributed through to our digital churches, but it also can be distributed

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 through our digital churches to the people that we're connecting with all over, um, America and the

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 world. And so like, we can have a church that's operating in Facebook and they can be encouraging

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 their, um, attenders, their, their members, the people that are connected with the church, they can be

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 encouraging them to help with foster families in their communities. Like, it's almost like this idea is

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 getting, um, distributed two times, multiple times, not just distributed to a digital church,

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 but through a digital church into areas, um, that maybe even the church doesn't exist within that zip

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 code. So we're really kind of, um, breaking a paradigm here of what local ministry means through a digital

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 church context. So, um, you know, Robert, I would love to maybe unpack here a little bit. What are these,

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 uh, initiatives? Like what are some of these areas that, uh, we're now talking about when we're,

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 when we're talking about every child, every city?

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 Yeah. So exactly as Pano said, we wanted to take what the great work, uh, that we are experts,

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 uh, we're leading and excelling at in our programs and not to be cliche, but like figure out how can we

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 even, uh, um, reach one more child. So that's what we always want to do is reach one more child,

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 more family. They're not close to one of our campuses or to where one of our programs are

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 offered. And so we do that in the areas of foster crew, uh, single moms community program,

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 a one-time anti-trafficking educational event, a backpack food program that can be one-time or

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 ongoing and through our meal packing party. So these are the main ways that we're able to come in,

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 partner with churches, no matter where you're located, whether that's here in Florida,

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 any state across the country, whether you're a fiscal church or you're a church online. Um,

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 we recently partnered with one church through our backpack program. Uh, this church operates,

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 uh, primarily online. They have, uh, folks that attend all over the country. Uh, we just finished,

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 I believe it was 38 events in 17 different States that we partnered with them to make sure that kids,

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 uh, had food as they were going back to school. So just amazing, just amazing to see, uh, that,

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 uh, we can do this. And most of these events took place, Jeff, it was honestly something that was even

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 new to us. So most of these events took place in people's homes. So in people's homes and coffee

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 shops, different things like that. So it wasn't like we were having these backpack events with

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 200 or 300 people in a church and a gymnasium or something like that. It was literally, uh,

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 most of these events were at someone's home and groups as small as four people, four people,

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 10 people, 20. We had some bigger groups as well too. Uh, but it really just showed us the impact

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 that you can make in your local community, whether you're in a physical church or whether you're

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 attending church online, we literally just had families like a family of four that packed 50

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 backpacks to make sure that kids at locals, uh, title one schools had food. So just some amazing

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 opportunities. Yeah. And this is some of the opportunity that, that, that I'm talking about

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 where it's a, I think it's a new paradigm when we talk about, you know, digital churches and the,

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 the reach, the potential reach that, that we're seeing as a result of this ministry, it's, it's

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 reaching different types of people. You know, we, we talked about this, it's reaching different

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 people in different environments in, in, uh, in, uh, in, uh, in different spaces. And so you're doing

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 that, um, by, uh, putting it online. And really now we're seeing an opportunity for that to get

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 distributed out in new ways and getting connected to, to new people and somebody running championing

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 this idea for, for foster care in a coffee house or somebody running a mentoring single moms program

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 within their, within their school, uh, or within their, uh, their workplace. Well, now because of

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 doing digital church and being at more distributed, more decentralized, we're able to see these ideas

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 stretch far beyond maybe what a physical locale would look like. Now, maybe the physical locale has

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 more, uh, influence at the beginning because now these ideas are small and getting distributed among

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 the people, but the opportunity for that to grow, uh, is, is really interesting. And so I, I, I love this.

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 So, you know, you've got the, the, and I know the church that's doing it. I, you know, maybe I say the

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 name, maybe I, it's, it's okay. We can, we can keep it quiet. The one church that's doing this digitally,

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 that's doing it really well. Um, but my, my, my question is, is, are you seeing like our physical

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 churches that, that are doing this, that are engaging, like what, what stories are you seeing?

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 What stories are you hearing? Um, what, what, what good are we seeing this idea, these initiatives,

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 uh, happen? Like what, what are happening as a result of it?

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 Absolutely. I, one church comes to mind, it's here in Florida. It's in Inverness, Florida. Uh,

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 they've been doing our single moms community program. They're actually in their third semester of doing it.

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 It's a 10 week program. So as the moms go through this, I just kind of give you a little backstory.

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 We provide all the curriculum, a leader's guide, uh, the student's guide, uh, materials that you can

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 use to promote it. Uh, we do that training. We can go in in person and do the training to train

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 the facilitators and the mentors. We can do that online via zoom. And so we've seen at this church

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 in Inverness, um, this in their third semester, just some amazing changes in these single moms.

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 So some of these single moms that were being mentored that were part of this program in

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 the first and second semester are now coming back and they're mentors themselves. So we've seen them

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 get mentored. And then now as the church is continuing doing this, now they're coming in

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 and they're mentoring new single moms. So we've seen moms, uh, that have accepted Christ through this.

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 We've seen families, uh, restored. We've seen children that are involved in church for the first

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 time. Just so many stories. I remember a story, uh, from a different one that talked about, uh,

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 that the, for the first time in the mom's life that she was reading the Bible, uh, that she was, uh,

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 trying to, to really seek out God. And she felt like God was working in her life. And she said that

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 for much of her life, she struggled with alcohol. And so for the first time in her life,

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 through the single moms program, through the support that she has, she's sober,

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 she's reading her Bible, she's really seeking the Lord. And so just some amazing stories like that,

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 Jeff, are happening all over the country.

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 That's great. And the opportunities we've talked about this. Thank you, Robert, for sharing that,

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 by the way. But we've, we've talked about these opportunities where, uh, online to offline,

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 you've heard me say this before, the gospel that we hear in our online world, it has to

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 influence our offline world, our offline relationships. Otherwise we're just creating consumers.

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 And so many of our churches, we're great at creating consumers in digital space. Listen

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 to this podcast, watch this online service, um, read this blog. But what if, what if we actually

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 challenged our, our, our listeners? What if we challenged our attenders to do something like this,

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 to, uh, feed hungry children using one more, uh, one more child's programming or speak into and

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 challenge, uh, uh, the sex trafficking in their locale? Like this is moving far beyond a consumer

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 mindset and really challenging, uh, and, and stepping into, uh, some environments like this

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 that are actually making a difference in the physical world. We, we, we often talk about this.

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 Would our church, it would our community miss us if, if our church shut down and really as digital

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 churches, even stepping into some of the space and challenging our people to lead out in this,

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 uh, it's, it, this is taking a big step towards, you know what? Yes. Our community would miss us if

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 our people were engaged like they would through some of these things that, that one, these initiatives

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 that one more child is leaning into. Panos, you look really excited, man. You're like jumping up and

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 down here. What, what are you thinking as we're talking about this?

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 I'm in agreement with everything. I think it's fantastic that we're, that we're having this

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 conversation. I mean, considering that even three or four years ago saying, Hey, we were,

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 we're going to take what we do really well and decentralize this to the point where other churches

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 anywhere can access, have access to training so that anyone that's at the church can become

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 a full advocate as well as just being an informed Christian in that space, knowing how they can work

00:19:26.460 --> 00:19:31.020
 in the foster community, how they can work to combat trafficking, how they can feed hungry children,

00:19:31.020 --> 00:19:36.380
 how they can support single moms. And, um, so just knowing that on this side of things,

00:19:36.380 --> 00:19:41.740
 looking at our digital strategy and also our initiatives being offered to churches everywhere,

00:19:42.620 --> 00:19:49.900
 we want to be able to mobilize, equip and resource churches as best as we possibly can to work in their

00:19:49.900 --> 00:19:56.460
 communities. And so, um, we just, we have these resources that are available. We offer all these

00:19:56.460 --> 00:20:01.980
 trainings for free, um, for all of our initiatives. That's because we believe in the church. We know

00:20:01.980 --> 00:20:06.380
 the mission of the church. We stand alongside the church in doing this because we want the church to

00:20:06.380 --> 00:20:10.540
 be able to be the hands and feet of Christ. And that's what we're looking to do. And so what does

00:20:10.540 --> 00:20:14.380
 it look like? I mean, we have tools that we offer as well. In addition to our training, um,

00:20:14.380 --> 00:20:18.620
 I have one thing and you can either edit this, or we can kind of talk a little bit more about this.

00:20:18.620 --> 00:20:24.300
 This is a church answers report. We've partnered with church answers to be able to work with churches,

00:20:24.860 --> 00:20:31.900
 uh, to be able to, uh, create a customized report of key stats in their area. And so we're talking

00:20:31.900 --> 00:20:38.860
 about households that are low income or below the poverty level, uh, houses that are on SNAP or food

00:20:38.860 --> 00:20:46.620
 stamps, a number of single moms in the area, a number of, uh, households with, um, yes, single mothers,

00:20:46.620 --> 00:20:51.420
 uh, married with children, property crime, just different things, number of people that are

00:20:51.420 --> 00:20:56.620
 involved in the church. So these are, this is a report that we work with churches as well to say,

00:20:56.620 --> 00:21:01.180
 Hey, look, if you're kind of wondering where we start with initiatives, let's generate a report

00:21:01.180 --> 00:21:06.300
 and let's look, because what we can do is we can say, Hey, look, we'll pull up the stat within 15

00:21:06.300 --> 00:21:12.060
 minutes of the zip code that you're looking to target and say, yeah, single moms is an issue in

00:21:12.060 --> 00:21:17.580
 terms of the number of, or the percentage that's there, uh, in terms of children or the households

00:21:17.580 --> 00:21:22.540
 that are on SNAP. These are households that we can look at and acknowledge as saying,

00:21:22.540 --> 00:21:28.700
 okay, these are households that are stretching the dollar. And we know that there's a situation where

00:21:29.420 --> 00:21:33.660
 some of these families are having to either pay the light bill or pay for food. And we want to

00:21:33.660 --> 00:21:38.780
 be able to step in as the church to be able to resource our community to let these families know,

00:21:38.780 --> 00:21:42.140
 you don't have to pick between both. We'll come in and we'll support you on the food side.

00:21:42.140 --> 00:21:46.700
 Um, and so that's just an example of what we're looking to do. So we're, we're really heavily

00:21:46.700 --> 00:21:53.260
 investing in spreading, um, and creating as many advocates as we possibly can to be able to reach

00:21:53.260 --> 00:21:57.340
 one more child. We spend enough time with Robert, myself, or anyone on staff with one more child.

00:21:57.340 --> 00:22:03.900
 The question will always circle back to that very thing. How do we reach one more child in our space?

00:22:03.900 --> 00:22:10.540
 The Lord has placed us here at this moment. Um, and so how do we serve? And so I, I'm just,

00:22:10.540 --> 00:22:15.020
 I'm energetic. I'm not aligned with everything that I'm hearing because it's so exciting to see

00:22:15.020 --> 00:22:21.340
 what's, what's to come from offering this anywhere, everywhere. And our team is super excited to be

00:22:21.340 --> 00:22:25.820
 able to do that. At one more child through our initiatives, we want to come in and empower and

00:22:25.820 --> 00:22:30.220
 equip your, your church where that's digital, whether that's fiscal, whatever that is. So we

00:22:30.220 --> 00:22:34.620
 want the community to see your church. So we come in behind the scenes, make sure you have all the

00:22:34.620 --> 00:22:39.420
 resources you need, all the training you need, everything that you need so that you can be the

00:22:39.420 --> 00:22:44.380
 ones that the community sees impacting. And so I just really think that that's important. It's not

00:22:44.380 --> 00:22:49.500
 like that we want to come in and we don't, uh, want the community to see one more child. We just want

00:22:49.500 --> 00:22:53.020
 to equip the church so that they can serve one more child.

00:22:53.020 --> 00:23:00.620
 That's fascinating. Now there's a, there's a pivot. There's a pivot here where you, you used to be

00:23:00.620 --> 00:23:09.500
 like the, the orphanage and, and instead of being the, the, the product giver, hey, we're doing the

00:23:09.500 --> 00:23:15.260
 orphanages. And when we're doing it this way, your organization has shifted. I feel like within the past

00:23:15.260 --> 00:23:20.540
 couple of years, like this is a recent shift more towards empowering others. It's more of a

00:23:20.540 --> 00:23:26.460
 decentralized movement where you're not owning the locale where the ministry is happening. Instead,

00:23:26.460 --> 00:23:32.700
 you're now empowering others, uh, to do the ministry where they are even double decentralized as we're

00:23:32.700 --> 00:23:38.220
 talking about, maybe empowering individuals to do this in homes and in, and in workplaces. Um,

00:23:38.220 --> 00:23:43.340
 I mean, I would love, and we talk a lot about decentralization here on the podcast. I would

00:23:43.340 --> 00:23:49.180
 love maybe to just to talk about why, maybe some lessons that you've learned along the way here.

00:23:49.180 --> 00:23:54.620
 What observations are you seeing as you're shifting, uh, through this? Like, tell me some of the

00:23:54.620 --> 00:23:59.580
 decentralization story of one more child here. Yeah, I, I can kind of kick us off and then pass it

00:23:59.580 --> 00:24:05.180
 over to Panos, but I really see it more as a expansion, uh, rather than, than a shifting,

00:24:05.180 --> 00:24:09.340
 because we're still doing our, our programs that we've done with excellence for so many years,

00:24:09.340 --> 00:24:14.460
 uh, kind of referencing foster care. We're still licensing foster homes here in Florida.

00:24:14.460 --> 00:24:19.340
 We still have foster family homes here in Florida. So we no longer have homes. So that group home

00:24:19.340 --> 00:24:25.340
 model is where we have paid staff that go in and they, uh, are there the, the house parents of the

00:24:25.340 --> 00:24:30.060
 group home. So now we have what's called a foster family home model. So a foster family home model

00:24:30.060 --> 00:24:36.540
 is where we provide the housing, uh, and foster families, uh, get to live there, um, for free

00:24:37.260 --> 00:24:43.500
 are very small, uh, very small, uh, monthly, uh, payment that they make, but basically for free.

00:24:43.500 --> 00:24:49.500
 And they're just regular licensed foster parents that are in the community, but we provide the housing

00:24:49.500 --> 00:24:55.340
 and kind of that, that caveat is that they have to be licensed for five kids. So we're still keeping

00:24:55.340 --> 00:25:01.020
 siblings together. We're still trying to, um, make sure that we have homes available no matter the

00:25:01.020 --> 00:25:06.220
 age of the, of the child. So we do all that through our foster family home model, but through our

00:25:06.220 --> 00:25:10.860
 initiatives, we're able to expand and do far more than that. And through our foster crew model, we're

00:25:10.860 --> 00:25:15.980
 able to go in, uh, train churches. We have a model that we've designed to train them to build a

00:25:15.980 --> 00:25:21.180
 really just practical ways, Jeff, that they can support foster families that are in their church

00:25:21.180 --> 00:25:28.700
 or in their community. So that's simple things like dropping off meals or, uh, uh, babysitting

00:25:28.700 --> 00:25:34.300
 or, uh, doing yard work around the house or doing laundry, especially praying for those families.

00:25:34.300 --> 00:25:41.660
 So it's just the way that we're able to expand from that traditional program model, um, and reach

00:25:41.660 --> 00:25:48.780
 more children for sure. Are you, as you're looking at expanding more areas, I'm just curious, like you,

00:25:48.780 --> 00:25:53.420
 you've got the, the five offerings now, foster families, mentor, single moms, feed hungry children,

00:25:53.420 --> 00:25:59.500
 stop sex trafficking, sponsor a child. Like are, is there, is there a wishlist for six?

00:25:59.500 --> 00:26:04.220
 Is it fine tune and master the five? Like, where are you going with this?

00:26:04.220 --> 00:26:08.940
 Yeah, it's definitely a combination of both. I'm always trying to analyze our initiatives,

00:26:08.940 --> 00:26:13.740
 see how we can make them better, see how we reach more people. Um, but yeah, one thing,

00:26:13.740 --> 00:26:18.300
 exciting thing that we're doing right now is we just translated our, uh, single moms community

00:26:18.300 --> 00:26:23.500
 program into Spanish. So all of our training, our facilitators guide, our learners guide,

00:26:23.500 --> 00:26:28.780
 everything is now in Spanish. Uh, we have a church, uh, that has already launched that in Spanish,

00:26:28.780 --> 00:26:33.980
 our first church. And so that's exciting that we're able to reach even more folks, uh, that,

00:26:33.980 --> 00:26:38.860
 that, uh, uh, speak a different language. And so the next step that we're doing,

00:26:38.860 --> 00:26:43.660
 uh, as far as translation in the Spanish, the next thing on the horizon is translating our foster

00:26:43.660 --> 00:26:49.100
 crew curriculum into Spanish. So we're able to reach even more foster families. So kind of going

00:26:49.100 --> 00:26:53.900
 back to the church answers report that Panos did, um, it's great for churches to be able to show

00:26:53.900 --> 00:26:58.140
 churches that so they can see needs in their community and how we can partner with them.

00:26:58.140 --> 00:27:01.900
 But honestly, it's also great for me to be able to see those needs to say, okay,

00:27:01.900 --> 00:27:09.980
 what are we not offering that people really need? And so some things that like here locally at our,

00:27:09.980 --> 00:27:15.180
 at our global headquarters in Lakeland, we have a family support program. And so I've seen the need

00:27:15.180 --> 00:27:20.540
 of having that same family support program. It's similar to a single mom's program, but, uh,

00:27:20.540 --> 00:27:24.460
 uh, you don't have to be a single mom. Uh, you, uh, you could be, or you could be a couple,

00:27:24.460 --> 00:27:30.060
 or you could be just the father. And it's really ways too, that we can come in and wrap around those

00:27:30.060 --> 00:27:36.220
 families and be able to training on finances and job skills and parenting and different things like

00:27:36.220 --> 00:27:40.220
 that. And as they're coming to these weekly classes, we're able to help meet some of those

00:27:40.220 --> 00:27:46.380
 tangible needs that they might have, whether that's diapers or baby products or, or food or whatever

00:27:46.380 --> 00:27:51.260
 that might be. So that's kind of a little bit of a tease, Jeff, on some different ways that we're

00:27:51.260 --> 00:27:54.300
 expanding and some different initiatives that I'm looking at.

00:27:54.300 --> 00:28:00.860
 Yeah. In terms of, and also kind of jumping on, and on the tail of what, uh, what Robert was saying,

00:28:00.860 --> 00:28:05.500
 in terms of these, the, what we're looking at for the future, what we're looking to do with

00:28:05.500 --> 00:28:11.580
 initiatives is we're largely looking to equip and empower the local church to respond to the local

00:28:11.580 --> 00:28:18.780
 community. And what that is, is I want to say that for years, um, it almost seemed like, uh,

00:28:18.780 --> 00:28:23.740
 it may seem like a ladder was being provided to churches or to communities where you either do,

00:28:23.740 --> 00:28:28.060
 you're either all in, or you're not involved at all. What we're trying to do is we're trying to

00:28:28.940 --> 00:28:34.380
 lay the groundwork to be able to offer the tools for churches to step into these communities,

00:28:34.380 --> 00:28:37.820
 into these areas. And so we're offering the training. We're not saying, Hey, look,

00:28:38.540 --> 00:28:43.740
 here's some ideas and go with it. We're actually offering robust training with people that have been

00:28:43.740 --> 00:28:48.780
 doing this for decades with X there's expertise. There's great expertise with the people that are

00:28:48.780 --> 00:28:54.860
 working on staff at one more child. And so these trainings are robust trainings that really equip

00:28:54.860 --> 00:28:59.820
 people to be able to say, okay, I think I can be an advocate now for foster care with developing

00:28:59.820 --> 00:29:05.980
 these foster crews. But then also what happens is let's say for example, with foster crew, someone,

00:29:05.980 --> 00:29:10.460
 there's a church that's equipped to be a foster crew. They start learning more about the foster

00:29:10.460 --> 00:29:16.620
 space in their area. And they want to have a deeper conversation, enter one more child again,

00:29:16.620 --> 00:29:21.900
 and we not enter. I'm sorry. One more child stands with you the entire time. But the thing is,

00:29:21.900 --> 00:29:26.140
 if you want to have a deeper conversation, we'll have that programmatically. So, Hey,

00:29:26.140 --> 00:29:30.300
 you started foster crews and you notice that there were five families in your local zip code that

00:29:30.300 --> 00:29:33.980
 needed help. Well, we wanted to have these foster crews because we know one of the number one things

00:29:33.980 --> 00:29:39.100
 that we see in foster care is that families burn out from being in the foster community because they

00:29:39.100 --> 00:29:43.820
 don't feel supported. Enter the church equipped with one more child training to be able to start

00:29:43.820 --> 00:29:48.460
 this foster group. And you notice we're serving five families, but we know there's another 15 that are

00:29:48.460 --> 00:29:54.140
 on a waiting list. Well, we've also noticed that, and we've also generated interest in our families and

00:29:54.140 --> 00:29:59.100
 our church wanting to become foster families. One more child can have a deeper conversation with

00:29:59.100 --> 00:30:04.220
 you as a church, with you in the community to be able to say, Hey, look, these initiatives are great

00:30:04.220 --> 00:30:09.020
 and we can expand this. And we can also talk programmatically. Do we want to be able to work

00:30:09.020 --> 00:30:15.260
 in this area to help recruit and license more foster families? If you have, let's say your single moms

00:30:15.260 --> 00:30:19.580
 program, you're doing it for a year or two and you realize, okay, we have a good hold in knowing

00:30:19.580 --> 00:30:25.740
 how many single moms are in our community. We know that there are moms that simply need a place

00:30:25.740 --> 00:30:30.860
 for one year for them to live. Well, if there's a church that has a space that wants to be activated,

00:30:30.860 --> 00:30:36.380
 we can activate that space potentially as a single mom's transition home. That's where one more child

00:30:36.380 --> 00:30:41.100
 comes in for the deeper conversation. So initiatives is really giving you the peace and comfort as a

00:30:41.100 --> 00:30:48.220
 church to know, Hey, I can enter into the space. We're seeing that church planters being so stretched

00:30:48.220 --> 00:30:53.580
 in so many ways, looking for so many things and trying to, and not knowing really where to start.

00:30:53.580 --> 00:31:00.140
 Our initiatives are being offered in a place where church planters can go, okay, I can learn to plant

00:31:00.140 --> 00:31:05.260
 my church, but then also learn the community at the same time and serve the community. And I don't need

00:31:05.260 --> 00:31:11.020
 this robust training or college certificate. We're able to be able to provide that for you and for your

00:31:11.020 --> 00:31:15.660
 team. So does that make sense? It's almost like a, it's almost like a spectrum or where we're going

00:31:15.660 --> 00:31:21.340
 from initiatives to programmatic conversations to, again, what we say is that question is how do we reach

00:31:21.340 --> 00:31:27.740
 one more child in your community? Yeah, it's just in time training. You're walking along with them as

00:31:27.740 --> 00:31:34.380
 they're growing and developing and you're providing the resources when they need it. It's a beautiful

00:31:34.380 --> 00:31:42.140
 plan. Now, how much does all this cost? Like the access to initiatives, the training, the reporting

00:31:42.140 --> 00:31:47.820
 that you're doing, some of the coaching that you're talking about, like $2.4 million, what's the

00:31:47.820 --> 00:31:53.980
 financial outpouring on this? The great thing, Jeff, is it's completely free. So our single moms community

00:31:53.980 --> 00:32:00.380
 program is completely free. Our foster crew model and our program is completely free. Our one-time

00:32:00.380 --> 00:32:07.180
 anti-trafficking education event is completely free. There is a small cost involved with our backpack

00:32:07.180 --> 00:32:14.780
 program and our meal party events that we do. But that's the only cost that's involved is just those two

00:32:14.780 --> 00:32:20.220
 kind of covering the cost of the food. But it's very, very affordable. We're able to get some great

00:32:20.220 --> 00:32:25.100
 greats and so make it where it's really realistic for the church. But outside of those two, it's

00:32:25.100 --> 00:32:32.700
 completely free. This is an incredible opportunity, I would suggest, for a digital church that

00:32:32.700 --> 00:32:37.900
 is working with people that are looking for opportunities to connect within the community.

00:32:38.780 --> 00:32:46.380
 Realize that as digital churches reach a different type of person, we're working with atheists,

00:32:46.380 --> 00:32:50.940
 we're working with agnostics, we're de-churched people, people that have walked away from the

00:32:50.940 --> 00:32:56.700
 physical building and are engaging in church Facebook groups and are finding Christ after a decade of

00:32:56.700 --> 00:33:02.460
 being away from the building. We're working with people that don't necessarily think like the physical

00:33:02.460 --> 00:33:11.580
 church type person does. And a lot of times we're finding high levels of wanting to engage on mission,

00:33:11.580 --> 00:33:17.020
 try to figure out what their purpose is dealing with people that want to make a difference in the

00:33:17.020 --> 00:33:25.740
 community and have high level of wanting to serve and wanting to engage, but need an avenue to do that.

00:33:25.740 --> 00:33:33.660
 And really one of the challenges of digital churches is they really didn't have a good answer for the service

00:33:33.660 --> 00:33:38.700
 ideas. We just did a stream on this recently talking about this where, you know, if you're willing to

00:33:38.700 --> 00:33:45.980
 serve in a digital church, you can serve as like a chat host or you can serve as a small group leader and that's

00:33:45.980 --> 00:33:55.180
 not to diminish either of those positions, but that's more internal focused as opposed to external within the community.

00:33:55.180 --> 00:34:02.300
 Utilizing these tools, utilizing these initiatives gives us an opportunity to create whole new

00:34:02.300 --> 00:34:11.100
 expressions of physical ministry happening distributed via the internet and the ability for our digital

00:34:11.100 --> 00:34:18.380
 churches to empower. I'm in Miami and in a digital church that I'm a part of can empower somebody on the

00:34:18.380 --> 00:34:25.020
 other side of America. We can be empowering somebody in California to utilize these tools,

00:34:25.020 --> 00:34:30.060
 people to make a difference within their physical community. So much of what we're seeing in digital

00:34:30.060 --> 00:34:40.140
 is almost this digital to micro model. And actually we'll have Justin and Janae Klatt on. The Klatt's are

00:34:40.140 --> 00:34:48.060
 great examples. Panos, Robert, you would love this couple. They've been running a micro church on Zoom

00:34:48.060 --> 00:34:53.980
 for like five years. And what's interesting is the micro church has grown into a network.

00:34:53.980 --> 00:34:59.340
 At this point, they, you know, the way that like Rob Wagner, Kansas City underground, Tampa underground,

00:34:59.340 --> 00:35:05.100
 the way that they look at their respective cities is how the Klatt's look at, at Zoom. And so they,

00:35:05.100 --> 00:35:11.260
 they empower individuals to reach out physically or digitally to own a church service and invite people

00:35:11.260 --> 00:35:16.140
 in. And so they've got multiple church services a week. I think they're actually seven days a week,

00:35:16.140 --> 00:35:20.940
 they're doing church service on Zoom. Somebody's doing a church service on Zoom and they're inviting

00:35:20.940 --> 00:35:27.580
 people in missionally. Well, the ministry has grown so well. I just recently had breakfast with the Klatt's

00:35:27.580 --> 00:35:36.140
 or with Justin in Arizona. They've started micro locations. They've started getting into like physical

00:35:36.140 --> 00:35:43.180
 micro locations. They've started getting into resource centers. People are actually giving them property and

00:35:43.180 --> 00:35:47.020
 saying, do a, do a church. Like, no, no, we don't want to do a church, but we'll do a community center.

00:35:47.900 --> 00:35:54.780
 And so we're seeing this start, this digital idea start to grow out into physical, into real space.

00:35:54.780 --> 00:36:02.460
 And the resources that you're providing here is an awesome step in helping more churches start to realize

00:36:02.460 --> 00:36:08.220
 what local ministry can be even distributed around the country. So this is, this is beautiful.

00:36:09.900 --> 00:36:19.180
 I would love to ask this. You talked about Spanish. I'm just going crazy here. Does the stuff that you're

00:36:19.180 --> 00:36:26.300
 doing work in Latin and South America, or is it more aimed at United States Hispanic? What's the

00:36:26.300 --> 00:36:31.020
 contextualization of some of these ideas? Yeah, definitely. So we're actually, Jeff,

00:36:31.020 --> 00:36:37.740
 we're on the horizon of launching some single moms community programs in Latin America. We have a staff

00:36:37.740 --> 00:36:44.860
 member that's there that's actually in Costa Rica that shortly is going to start training different

00:36:44.860 --> 00:36:49.900
 churches and equipping different churches with this single moms community program. So we know that that

00:36:49.900 --> 00:36:54.860
 program fits well. We know that like foster care in Latin America, things like that, it's different.

00:36:54.860 --> 00:37:00.140
 You know, it's not necessarily a foster care system or foster children or things like that and in other

00:37:00.140 --> 00:37:07.180
 countries. But with our foster crew in Spanish, Jeff, really the heart of that comes from involvement

00:37:07.180 --> 00:37:12.780
 that we have with churches in Miami. So not that they're necessary in Latin America, but we know that

00:37:12.780 --> 00:37:17.980
 there's so many Spanish speakers in Miami. I know that you guys live in that in Miami. I used to live

00:37:17.980 --> 00:37:25.180
 in Miami. I worked in case management and this whole child welfare dependency for many years in Miami,

00:37:25.180 --> 00:37:33.980
 and I know there's a great need for that. So really, that's the heart of me seeing that we need to get this

00:37:33.980 --> 00:37:39.580
 material translated in Spanish starting from Miami and honestly starting from churches that Panos has

00:37:39.580 --> 00:37:44.780
 partnered with in different areas of Miami that I know that if we can get it in Spanish, we can reach

00:37:44.780 --> 00:37:50.780
 even more kids. I love, that's just why I love Miami, right? I mean, there's so much, there's so much

00:37:50.780 --> 00:37:56.860
 multiculturalism in here. I, you know, I grew up Miami, met my wife Miami. Actually, my parents are all,

00:37:56.860 --> 00:38:00.780
 both of our parents are from Miami, both sets of parents. All of our grandparents are from Miami.

00:38:00.780 --> 00:38:05.580
 We're like third, fourth generation Miamians. And it's rare to see that down here.

00:38:05.580 --> 00:38:10.460
 Just the cultural aspect is beautiful. It's boring. It's boring in other places, man.

00:38:11.580 --> 00:38:13.580
 I always say you reach Miami, you reach the world.

00:38:13.580 --> 00:38:13.580
 Exactly.

00:38:13.580 --> 00:38:19.980
 And Miami is also, if you look at Miami, Miami is almost like a time machine where if you want to

00:38:19.980 --> 00:38:23.580
 see a lot of the nation in five years, it's going to look like Miami now.

00:38:23.580 --> 00:38:30.220
 And so that, just with what Robert was saying in terms of reaching the churches and reaching

00:38:30.220 --> 00:38:36.620
 key cities like Miami and other key cities, we're looking to reach the world with our trainings and

00:38:36.620 --> 00:38:37.820
 our initiatives as well.

00:38:38.380 --> 00:38:44.540
 That's beautiful. This is a great opportunity. Digital churches, take advantage of this. And so,

00:38:44.540 --> 00:38:48.780
 let me ask the question, Robert, if somebody's wanting to sign up, if somebody's wanting to get

00:38:48.780 --> 00:38:53.420
 connected, if somebody wants more information, where are they going, where are we pointing them

00:38:53.420 --> 00:38:55.340
 at to get connected with One More Child?

00:38:55.340 --> 00:39:00.300
 Yeah, they can go straight to our website to onemorechild.org/everychild.

00:39:00.300 --> 00:39:03.340
 So you go to our website, onemorechild.org/everychild.

00:39:03.340 --> 00:39:09.020
 It's a description of all of our different initiatives. You have the opportunity to click

00:39:09.020 --> 00:39:13.980
 on there to learn more, to request an interest meeting. So if you want to request an interest

00:39:13.980 --> 00:39:18.460
 meeting, then we will contact you and my team will conduct that via Zoom. We'll tell you more

00:39:18.460 --> 00:39:22.620
 about all the initiatives or those that you're interested in and give you an opportunity to sign

00:39:22.620 --> 00:39:27.660
 up and to get rolling with it. So it's just as simple as going to our website, requesting more

00:39:27.660 --> 00:39:34.060
 information. We'll contact you within two business days, set up an interest meeting via Zoom to get

00:39:34.060 --> 00:39:37.660
 you plugged in. Awesome. And so, yeah, we'll put that link in the show notes. One more

00:39:38.300 --> 00:39:43.900
 child.org/everychild. These are great initiatives. And Panos, what do you got?

00:39:43.900 --> 00:39:47.260
 If you also, if you're having an in-person meeting and you're

00:39:47.980 --> 00:39:52.700
 someone who's leading a church network or you're having a community meeting and you need paper

00:39:52.700 --> 00:39:57.260
 resources, we have postcards that looks like this. This is foster care. We have

00:39:57.260 --> 00:40:02.540
 different postcard size flyers with a QR code on the back to make it as simple as possible that if

00:40:02.540 --> 00:40:07.100
 you receive one of these at the meeting or you hand these out, you just simply tell people to scan

00:40:07.100 --> 00:40:11.580
 the QR code. They fill out the form of the QR code and they'll have a meeting with one of our

00:40:12.300 --> 00:40:17.980
 team members within 48 hours. They'll have something in terms of a communication via email to set up

00:40:17.980 --> 00:40:24.060
 that meeting to ask all the questions you'd like about foster care or foster crew or single moms or

00:40:24.060 --> 00:40:27.180
 anti-trafficking or any of the initiatives we offer.

00:40:27.180 --> 00:40:33.980
 So if you're looking to digitally, if you're looking to strengthen your digital church,

00:40:33.980 --> 00:40:39.980
 your fidgetal church, your micro church, whatever, if you're looking to strengthen and really start to

00:40:39.980 --> 00:40:46.780
 look at how to meet local communities, physical communities, foster care, mentor single moms,

00:40:47.340 --> 00:40:52.860
 feed hungry children, stop sex trafficking, or sponsor a child, you're going to swing over to

00:40:52.860 --> 00:41:01.820
 onemorechild.org/everychild and get connected with my friend Panos here, with Robert, or with somebody

00:41:01.820 --> 00:41:07.580
 else on the team. And so this has been a great conversation. Thank you, gentlemen, for the time.

00:41:07.580 --> 00:41:11.980
 As we're landing the plane here, Panos, let's go with you first. Any closing thoughts?

00:41:11.980 --> 00:41:17.260
 Let's see. There was one other thing I wanted to mention real quick. And I don't know if this goes

00:41:17.260 --> 00:41:21.740
 into another part of what we're talking about. The child sponsorships that we were talking about.

00:41:21.740 --> 00:41:27.740
 As one more child, yeah, we actually specialize in missions trips. And so let's say that you are a

00:41:27.740 --> 00:41:32.780
 church or a digital church that, hey, you may have not met in person, you're scattered throughout the

00:41:32.780 --> 00:41:38.300
 nation or in other parts of the world. We have mission trips that go to 15 partner countries that

00:41:38.300 --> 00:41:45.820
 we're working in: Dominican Republic, Uganda, Nicaragua, Colombia, Costa Rica, Latvia, Tanzania, Haiti,

00:41:46.780 --> 00:41:54.220
 Jamaica, Kenya, South Africa, Romania, and Guatemala. And that can be found on our website. And so if you're

00:41:54.220 --> 00:41:59.660
 a digital church that's looking to, let's say, sponsor a child, we specialize as an organization that

00:41:59.660 --> 00:42:05.100
 if you sponsor a child in Guatemala and you have a missions trip to Guatemala to a partner site,

00:42:05.100 --> 00:42:09.660
 you will meet your child, the child that you are sponsoring. You have a pen pal system that we

00:42:09.660 --> 00:42:16.140
 provide that you can communicate. You'll receive pictures of the child that you sponsor. I think at

00:42:16.140 --> 00:42:22.220
 least, I think once or twice a year, maybe possibly once a quarter, it depends on the child in the country,

00:42:22.220 --> 00:42:28.780
 but just know that we offer that as well. So if you're looking to connect the child sponsorship and

00:42:28.780 --> 00:42:34.700
 then go out internationally, we offer that, we provide that programming as well.

00:42:34.700 --> 00:42:40.860
 Rob, that's a great idea. Check that out. Is that link on Every Child or is that another link to get

00:42:40.860 --> 00:42:43.740
 more information on sponsorship? It's on that same website.

00:42:43.740 --> 00:42:49.500
 Same webpage on Every Child. Awesome. Robert, as we land in the plane here, any closing thoughts on your side?

00:42:49.500 --> 00:42:53.340
 Yeah, I'm just going to leave you guys with this, that our Every Child, Every City initiatives are

00:42:53.340 --> 00:42:58.540
 really simple solutions to help you meet the needs in your community and to show the love of Christ.

00:42:58.540 --> 00:43:03.100
 So that's what we're all about, to help partner with churches, to meet the needs in their community,

00:43:03.100 --> 00:43:05.900
 to share the love of Christ and to reach more children.

00:43:05.900 --> 00:43:13.420
 Beautiful. And so reaching more children is the heart. And I love this pairing to help digital

00:43:13.420 --> 00:43:21.340
 churches move physical, even distributed across their people and challenging them to do some of

00:43:21.340 --> 00:43:25.740
 these initiatives and to make a difference within the physical community. And so, Panos, Robert,

00:43:25.740 --> 00:43:29.980
 thank you for the time, jumping here on the podcast, doing this. And prayerfully, hopefully,

00:43:29.980 --> 00:43:34.780
 we see some more partnerships and some engagement happen with digital churches reaching out and

00:43:34.780 --> 00:43:40.860
 starting to intentionally focus on serving locally within their distributed communities.

00:43:41.820 --> 00:43:45.500
 And so this is great. Hopefully, start of the conversation here, but we're going to land the

00:43:45.500 --> 00:43:50.940
 plane. And so for Panos, for Robert, this is Jeff with The Church Digital. Thanks for jumping on the

00:43:50.940 --> 00:43:53.420
 podcast here, and we'll see you next time on the show. Y'all have a good day.

