WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:08.240 the world the church they're already judging us they're already just this this hurts this is the 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:14.720 this is the therapist here um they're already judging us based off of of what we're doing 00:00:15.920 --> 00:00:19.200 and if you've not experienced that good for you you're you're one in the few at this point 00:00:21.760 --> 00:00:28.800 be people of action welcome to the church digital podcast through this podcast we'll talk about the 00:00:28.800 --> 00:00:34.240 technological innovations within the church but more than tech for tech itself will address deeper 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:39.600 questions is disciple making possible digitally how should we approach the digital mission field 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:44.000 can a biblically grounded church operate in digital space oh and where does the metaverse 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:50.240 and artificial intelligence fit into all of this whether you're a big or small church the church 00:00:50.240 --> 00:00:56.640 digital's goal is to help churches like yours learn to be a multiplying church digitally and physically 00:00:56.640 --> 00:01:05.520 and now here's your host jeff reed all right episode 290 290 that's 2 9 0 that is i'm gonna do this on 00:01:05.520 --> 00:01:18.960 the fly see if it works cc uh 90 would be l no it would be cc ic is that right no ccxc all right hey 00:01:18.960 --> 00:01:26.000 here's what i need you to do i need you to text me is the roman numeral for 290 ccxc go ahead and text 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:34.400 me 4 4 3 2 4 8 7 2 i'm not kidding 4 4 3 2 4 8 7 2 4 text me right now episode 290 ccxc of the 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:40.480 church digital podcast brought to you by riverside hey so we did something really cool this week with 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:46.960 riverside episode 209 and we talked about a little week a little bit last time in episode 289 where 00:01:46.960 --> 00:01:52.960 last time uh 289 was me streaming into mighty networks into our the church digital fam our online 00:01:52.960 --> 00:02:00.240 community um which is hosted by mighty networks and which is a cloud-based stream and at the same time 00:02:00.240 --> 00:02:06.960 we had riverside running in the background recording at a much higher quality video and audio image and it 00:02:06.960 --> 00:02:13.680 was awesome it made the end product for on demand incredible like riverside always does and so 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:18.880 what are we going to do for episode 29 to make it better well uh we're going to stream into mighty 00:02:18.880 --> 00:02:24.960 networks again and we're going to stream into i don't know the church digital's new discord channel 00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:30.320 we'll talk about that here in a second but we did we streamed into discord we streamed into mighty 00:02:30.320 --> 00:02:39.680 networks and we recorded uh it on riverside and once again the audio and video quality was incredible the 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:46.240 only thing that i noticed um just a typical from the typical experience that i've got here uh at the 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:53.360 studio working with riverside is because we had so many streams open at the same time the actual well the 00:02:53.360 --> 00:02:58.080 speed that was uploaded to riverside was a little slower because you know i was running two different live 00:02:58.080 --> 00:03:03.760 streams at you know 1080 and then i was doing riverside capture uh so it's just to make actually 00:03:03.760 --> 00:03:09.200 three because there's 720 is the buffer for riverside anyway yay riverside go to the church.digital 00:03:09.200 --> 00:03:16.000 slash riverside for more information on how listen churches if if you're not doing shorts if you're not 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:22.480 doing uh manuscripts if you're not doing um if you're not doing uh images and social if you're not 00:03:22.480 --> 00:03:29.440 utilizing ai and social media in your sermons on how to create shorter easier to process elements that 00:03:29.440 --> 00:03:34.960 are going to get eyeballs in front of your in front of your sermons and get people attached to your 00:03:34.960 --> 00:03:40.800 website your digital process and get you connected into some sort of a digital community like you need 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:48.880 to be on riverside the church.digital slash riverside go check it out okay 290 i took last week off i was a 00:03:48.880 --> 00:03:55.120 little under the weather um we put a lot of work uh i publicly want to thank barbara canaro and word 00:03:55.120 --> 00:04:01.600 revolution barbara canaro and director of connection for the church digital um because guys um 00:04:03.440 --> 00:04:09.920 the new website launched yes i did not say the new website launched as in breakfast or dinner i said 00:04:09.920 --> 00:04:17.520 launched as in hey that website that jeff built in 2018 for the church digital on a weekend before 00:04:17.520 --> 00:04:23.680 anything launched that is no longer valid and is no longer on the internet well it's probably on some 00:04:23.680 --> 00:04:29.120 internet archive but we've got a new website for the church digital you can go check it out at the 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:37.520 church.digital uh it has been an awesome joy uh to already see feedback from it to already see 00:04:37.520 --> 00:04:42.880 productivity come from it we're already connecting with people the website is converting not converting 00:04:42.880 --> 00:04:46.720 people to jesus but converting what it's supposed to be doing what is the website supposed to be doing 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:51.120 it's supposed to be driving people to our new discord server hey the church digital did you know the 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:56.320 church digital is on discord hey did you know the church digital is on discord hey had you heard the 00:04:56.320 --> 00:05:02.400 church digital who is on discord hey the church digital it's on discord the church.digital is on 00:05:02.400 --> 00:05:09.600 discord you can get there at open up a web browser discord.thechurch.digital or you can go to uh 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:15.520 thechurch.digital and click on one of the 47 different links on the landing page that's good i'm 00:05:15.520 --> 00:05:23.440 exaggerating but it's there's a lot of links there to drive you to get to discord um we had an awesome 00:05:23.440 --> 00:05:29.600 time really celebrating the church digital i did a stream on uh tuesday i don't even know what today 00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:34.080 is i don't even know that it matters what is today april 9th uh when i'm doing this recording in the 00:05:34.080 --> 00:05:39.920 stream but we did a stream on tuesday the 9th celebrating the uh the launch of the website the 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:46.160 discord um uh some of the other community changes that are happening within the church digital celebrating 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:50.800 our leadership there's some changes that are coming to social media we started talking about some of the 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:55.760 framework things like really this was a circle the wagon kind of conversation a circle the wagon kind 00:05:55.760 --> 00:06:07.040 of podcast um and so would love for you all to um check it out it's episode 290 really uh it's let's 00:06:07.040 --> 00:06:12.000 you know what we're just going to call this part two of the new the church digital 00:06:14.640 --> 00:06:21.200 all right hey stacy how you doing hopefully you can hear me hey it's jeff uh with the church digital 00:06:21.200 --> 00:06:27.360 uh we are streaming this on mighty networks right now and in about 10 seconds i'm going to click the 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:35.040 button to start to stream over on discord and so let me go ahead and start the stage there 00:06:36.320 --> 00:06:46.960 celebrating tcd new website hey barbara carnero tope how you doing it's fun doing this here on mighty 00:06:46.960 --> 00:06:55.680 networks um but i am opening up at a new world we are now streaming for the first time over on discord 00:06:55.680 --> 00:07:02.480 and and hopefully my discord friends can see me i got octopus and sarah uh valado i'm probably 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:07.200 mispronouncing that over there on discord so i got five people in two different communities 00:07:07.200 --> 00:07:12.320 simultaneously streaming at the same time hopefully everyone can hear me it looks like you can hear me 00:07:12.320 --> 00:07:17.920 on discord and um you know i can't really tell anything somebody's saying chat if they can hear me 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:22.400 hey tope can you hear me huh maybe i should jump over to discord i mean i'm not saying discord's 00:07:22.400 --> 00:07:27.520 a better experience but actually discord upped its streaming game literally today's the first time 00:07:27.520 --> 00:07:31.840 that i've seen it thank you tope for that literally on a different continent the dude sound checking me 00:07:31.840 --> 00:07:41.040 from from africa i love that um but um if if you're over in in discord it looks like old school um 00:07:42.320 --> 00:07:47.200 oh my gosh i forgot what it was called clubhouse like you remember clubhouse for like the the 60 00:07:47.200 --> 00:07:51.680 seconds that it was popular during covid and everybody was like clubhouse clubhouse clubhouse 00:07:51.680 --> 00:07:57.040 and i was like all over clubhouse and it was great um yeah so now that's what that's how discord 00:07:57.040 --> 00:08:00.640 looks and now i've got people in there and i in the audience and i can bring them up to the speaker 00:08:00.640 --> 00:08:05.040 platform or i can be like yeah we're done with you and and and sound you back down and so hey this is 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:12.640 the new streaming world you yeah tope did tope used the clubhouse for all did they ever do clubhouse for 00:08:12.640 --> 00:08:19.440 um for android like did android ever because i'm honest like if it was if it was yeah they did okay 00:08:19.440 --> 00:08:27.120 good because that was to me that was the problem clubhouse never got like launched well maybe because 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:32.560 also it was audio only but you know that's the whole other thing but the fact that it was was only 00:08:32.560 --> 00:08:40.560 ios like almost felt like it had to be a a clubhouse apologetic anytime i recommended or said oh no 00:08:40.560 --> 00:08:45.520 jump on clubhouse we'll have an android phone oh i'm sorry to hear that why i mean that was always 00:08:45.520 --> 00:08:51.120 the follow-up i wanted to ask but i know it always wasn't bold enough to ask the heavy questions like 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:56.880 why would in the world would you have an android phone i feel sorry for you green bubble people 00:08:56.880 --> 00:09:02.880 um i have i have an android account i am it's okay hey ian kirk's jumping on this is this is so weird 00:09:02.880 --> 00:09:10.560 uh i got uh i got six people in uh in uh discord i got five people in uh mighty networks in my head's 00:09:10.560 --> 00:09:15.680 gonna like spin back and forth all day here maybe four in mighty networks no actually barbara is double 00:09:15.680 --> 00:09:21.920 dipping she's in both which that's how much barbara cranero loves the church digital she is attending 00:09:22.640 --> 00:09:27.920 virtuous virtually in two different communities at the same time like she can't just be in one she's 00:09:27.920 --> 00:09:33.920 got to be in both to make sure things are going well ian kirk i haven't talked to you in a in a long 00:09:33.920 --> 00:09:40.960 time it is so good uh to see you hey i just found out something today this is a voice from the past 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:48.880 uh ian ethan connelly now ethan has been a a guest on the church digital podcast digital pastor 00:09:49.680 --> 00:09:56.080 oh my gosh i'm blanking on the church's name up in um uh washington dc area virginia 00:09:57.440 --> 00:10:04.160 dude dude has is is one of our top five right now of podcast listens he he did a podcast on chat 00:10:04.160 --> 00:10:11.040 that blew up during covid and um yeah man listen he's he's a digital pastor the funny thing the 00:10:11.040 --> 00:10:17.040 interesting thing is he was he was an it director but funny thing before that he was like a volunteer 00:10:17.040 --> 00:10:26.400 it guy his church he was a volunteer it guy for his church five years ago and they they brought him on 00:10:27.280 --> 00:10:33.680 to be an it director part-time then full-time and then they bumped him up to um 00:10:34.560 --> 00:10:42.880 uh to staff full-time and then he cast vision for a digital ministry uh an it nerd for a church 00:10:42.880 --> 00:10:48.480 volunteer grown up in the system and the church agreed to do it let him do it and so he launched 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:54.480 pre-covid right as covid was really starting actually it was in early months he launched his digital 00:10:54.480 --> 00:11:00.400 ministry the reason i bring this up this past weekend ethan connelly just got ordained it is now 00:11:00.560 --> 00:11:07.440 the reverend ethan connelly and and so really excited uh for that evan connelly i've been 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:12.320 saying ethan it's evan connelly i've been saying ethan and i'm like that's not his name it's not ethan 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:17.600 but i couldn't think and it's not ian ian made me think of it but it's it's evan super excited uh for 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:23.440 evan congratulations and this that would this um would mean a whole lot more had i gotten his 00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:28.880 first name right the entire time which i did not which is embarrassing on my half hey listen those of 00:11:28.880 --> 00:11:37.760 you that are in um mighty networks feel free to come over to the discord world i mean i'm not saying 00:11:37.760 --> 00:11:43.120 it's better in the discord world but it's closer to the camera and so when i look at that screen you're 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:50.000 more likely to be seen uh it is oh it is better according to the guy that looks like um um you 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:56.560 know gandalf uh gandalf is telling me that it's better so that must be but hey it's uh go to 00:11:56.560 --> 00:12:01.600 discord d-i-s-c-o-r-d dot the church dot digital that'll get you to our discord server create an account 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:05.920 if you don't have one uh but we're going to get more into discord and mighty networks and all that 00:12:05.920 --> 00:12:12.640 here in a little bit so i hey i do want to ian good to see you man uh being making the move to 00:12:12.640 --> 00:12:19.840 discord i saw that hey i want to know right now in chat we launched a new website right is that kind 00:12:19.840 --> 00:12:26.480 of a thing that this new website how how do we like this what do we think tell me in chat give me some 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:35.520 feedback i would love to know what you all thought it's it's it's been a really interesting morning i had a 00:12:35.520 --> 00:12:41.360 full morning planned i was supposed to be doing a lot of writing talking about the future of worship 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:48.960 in a hybrid environment and um my discord kept blowing up as more and more people started 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:55.200 transversing through the website into discord or people started filling out our our digital discipleship 00:12:55.760 --> 00:13:05.600 um assessment form that we've got on the website and um and it was just an incredible uh experience 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:10.880 like it was really i i was texting barbara canero by the way barbara canero word revolution designed 00:13:10.880 --> 00:13:21.200 the website in discord it's hill me h-i-l-m-e-e um but uh it was a very it was very cool to see all that 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:26.880 come in but i i literally i was in the middle of doing this work and i i texted barbara i was like 00:13:26.880 --> 00:13:32.000 hey yeah good to know your website's converting a whole lot better than the old one was because the 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:36.640 whole one didn't necessarily have those those movements of conversion like we really we didn't 00:13:36.640 --> 00:13:42.640 even like broadcast you know just i put it on my personal socials so we're really excited barbara you 00:13:42.640 --> 00:13:49.360 really did a great job jmo saying over in uh mighty networks uh but yeah we need to take uh sumi beats 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:54.640 you do need to take a closer look at the website there's there's a hidden not so hidden easter egg 00:13:54.640 --> 00:14:00.240 underneath the hamburger specifically for you sumi beats uh so i'm looking forward to you seeing that 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:06.000 and then laughing hysterically uh once you get there uh but it is uh man it's something we're really 00:14:06.800 --> 00:14:13.040 really proud of the the old website i mean i'm not gonna yeah you should be intrigued um the old 00:14:13.040 --> 00:14:21.600 website uh is something i designed um on a weekend over a weekend in 2018 i mean this i'm i don't know 00:14:21.600 --> 00:14:29.040 how to like sugarcoat this like it was a a very old website uh that was literally built i had just quit 00:14:29.040 --> 00:14:33.680 my job and uh was like okay i'm gonna do this thing called the church digital i'm gonna go and do it 00:14:33.680 --> 00:14:36.400 i gotta tell people what i'm doing because everybody's asking me what am i doing now that 00:14:36.400 --> 00:14:40.640 i quit my job and i'm sick of people like talking to me so i got to build this website and like post 00:14:40.640 --> 00:14:46.240 it on social media and so i literally i worked over over the weekend to do it i didn't have a clue what 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:51.280 i was doing like if you were to hey jeff what was your what was your the hamburger was the outline 00:14:51.280 --> 00:14:56.240 what was the plan what was the the hamburger by the way is the three lines in the upper i guess 00:14:56.240 --> 00:15:00.560 it's the well actually they're both it's the upper left-hand corner whatever your left is 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:10.080 it's it's usually the menu and uh it was it was really um i'd have a clue what it was and um what 00:15:10.080 --> 00:15:15.520 i was doing and so threw a bunch of stuff down somehow google found me because evidently i was the 00:15:15.520 --> 00:15:21.520 only idiot in 2018 that was talking about planting digital churches and uh well google just has loved 00:15:21.520 --> 00:15:30.320 me ever since and it's been awesome to see really more than the website really these ideas flourish 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:37.040 like even the the amount of people that are jumping on the stream that to check this out daniel heron 00:15:37.040 --> 00:15:44.320 saying howdy and mighty networks my gosh daniel daniel i miss you we need to catch up 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:54.080 um even you know meeting guys like daniel heron um a kid who planted a church in roblox when he was 00:15:54.080 --> 00:16:02.720 11 or 12 years old it's just so many incredible stories of people thinking outside of the box and it occurred 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:15.040 to me somewhere around meeting daniel um that you know actually it it was jate jate was on a podcast with 00:16:15.040 --> 00:16:28.720 me and after the podcast um jake got like ripped um airheart got ripped by like church people for some of jate's 00:16:29.280 --> 00:16:36.320 beliefs um centered around digital evangelism and digital discipleship um because he was being very 00:16:36.320 --> 00:16:42.240 evangelical in digital space and and evidently god doesn't believe in the virtual reality or in discord 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:47.120 well i'm sorry to hear that maybe somebody should tell god that another pioneer filled out the 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:56.480 assessment so we're up to four now um within hours of launch um so cool and it was interesting like i 00:16:56.480 --> 00:17:03.040 really some of those early conversations like my heart just broke some of the stuff that dj soto was going 00:17:03.040 --> 00:17:09.520 through as he was and this is 2017 2018 angela craig uh with pursuit church live some of the stories that 00:17:09.520 --> 00:17:15.760 she was going through uh where her own denomination would not support her even though because her she 00:17:15.760 --> 00:17:22.240 did not have a physical mailing address because her church was digital uh like it was it was re 00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:28.160 honestly it was just ridiculous and um you know and some of you heard me tell my story where it's like 00:17:28.160 --> 00:17:35.680 man i really god is this my time to plant a church and every time every time i asked that question 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:43.920 i cannot tell you how loud god is screaming from the rooftops no i've even had people offer to give me 00:17:43.920 --> 00:17:50.640 money to go towards my first church and instead um god unequivocally says your job's to help 00:17:51.600 --> 00:17:57.520 and so stepping in creating the church digital uh which was initially physical church we'd spun off 00:17:57.520 --> 00:18:02.800 digital church network which was a mistake i said it i own it it was my mistake uh not what we were 00:18:02.800 --> 00:18:08.800 doing but the marketing of it splitting it up into two things uh solidifying it now into the church 00:18:08.800 --> 00:18:13.920 digital and getting some of our branding figured out now surrounding myself with this awesome leadership 00:18:14.080 --> 00:18:22.720 team uh of andy mage barbara carnero uh j mo the j mo jason morris flat cap layton uh oh my gosh tom uh 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:28.880 isn't in the mix on that and so many others um gosh i mean i could sit here naming off like the movement 00:18:28.880 --> 00:18:36.480 leaders and the the uh the network the podcast network and it's it's really um it's really incredible 00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:42.240 white beard i'm sad that you're the fourth um as well i would rather no i mean the first guy was nice 00:18:42.240 --> 00:18:52.320 but you're you're nice as well um that's that's good it's it's been a really awesome experience and i am so 00:18:53.600 --> 00:19:02.320 um humbled honestly humbled uh to be here to be on the stream talking to you people watching this even 00:19:02.320 --> 00:19:10.480 get blasted out um now there's going to be some changes with the church digital oh my gosh jeff said 00:19:10.480 --> 00:19:16.320 changes there's so many changes there's always changes um yeah so if you roll with me you know 00:19:16.320 --> 00:19:23.200 there's always changes um that's one of the reasons why the website hasn't been updated since 2018 00:19:23.760 --> 00:19:27.680 was because there's always changes and why are we going to change the website we're going to change 00:19:27.680 --> 00:19:32.960 it again in two months anyway and um yeah hey we haven't worked with that organization in months but 00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:38.160 hey keep it on the website because it's just too much work to get it off um yeah it's digital i mean 00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:43.200 it's supposed to be listen the website that you see it and now it'll it well i mean it's already 00:19:43.200 --> 00:19:46.720 changed today a couple times it'll probably get changed again you know within the next week or so 00:19:46.720 --> 00:19:50.560 and there's always already stuff that we're talking about adding to it and adjustments that need to be 00:19:50.560 --> 00:19:55.840 made um that's why it's digital we don't have to pay for print printing costs it's much cheaper 00:19:55.840 --> 00:20:01.440 evidently it's scale digital scalable i don't know if you knew that um but man we're really excited 00:20:01.440 --> 00:20:09.600 um i mean i just i feel like i keep saying that some of these changes so barbara canera word revolution 00:20:09.600 --> 00:20:14.880 by the way who's now our connections director here with uh with the church digital asked her to come on 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:19.920 on our leadership team and very excited to have her on i met barbara for the first time a year ago 00:20:20.560 --> 00:20:26.240 at um at exponential i mean we i mean we met digitally whatever that means but really sitting 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:32.560 down having a heart to heart in in um a year ago and you know it's it's interesting i talk about how 00:20:32.560 --> 00:20:38.880 i i meet people where it's like it's like you are me we're the same people it's like kismet kismet was 00:20:38.880 --> 00:20:44.720 like yahtzee before yahtzee was yahtzee kismet um actually i think kismet's a russian word for i 00:20:44.720 --> 00:20:49.680 don't know maybe something um but like there was there was this this connection because we really saw 00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:56.720 things uh you know eye to eye we saw it the same way and um you know it's interesting it was in god's 00:20:56.720 --> 00:21:00.960 timing it was like okay we got to figure out how to like work with barbara how to get with word 00:21:00.960 --> 00:21:07.840 revolution we had worked with a couple different um several different kind of communications branding 00:21:07.840 --> 00:21:14.080 specialists um and no ill will against any of them just if none of them were able to really 00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:22.480 capture the ideas of the church digital they really didn't understand it um and and barbara 00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:26.080 shoot i i don't honestly i don't feel like i even needed to explain it to her at some point she was 00:21:26.080 --> 00:21:31.920 telling it to me um and uh and so she came out with a with this website and but we were putting together 00:21:31.920 --> 00:21:37.520 this website and trying to make it all happen she's like and this is this is very hard for me this is 00:21:37.520 --> 00:21:43.600 why i am no longer a communications director because i want to make everybody happy and i want to do 00:21:43.600 --> 00:21:48.080 everything and in communications you cannot do everything and you cannot make everyone happy 00:21:49.280 --> 00:21:54.480 and so um you know barbara's like well okay what's the what's the call to action like what what what 00:21:54.480 --> 00:21:58.640 what's the point of the website what are we trying to do i don't know if you remember the old 00:21:58.640 --> 00:22:03.280 the church digital website but there were like on the landing page alone there were 27 different call 00:22:03.280 --> 00:22:12.800 to actions everything from connect to uh dcn connect to fam give uh get consulting you know check out the 00:22:12.800 --> 00:22:17.840 our online courses uh there's a cohort there's something with leadership network like i mean we 00:22:17.840 --> 00:22:22.960 we were we were renting no we weren't literally renting space but we were giving it away as as as free as 00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:25.840 possible um yeah some codependent 00:22:30.320 --> 00:22:33.440 you've been talking to my therapist that's awesome stacy 00:22:39.120 --> 00:22:46.000 oh my gosh okay so i'm back um yeah so but yeah so where was something the mighty networks 00:22:46.720 --> 00:22:50.400 there was white beard it was called digital church network which was that branding failure 00:22:51.280 --> 00:22:55.520 um it was a branding failure we should not have been digital church networks we should have been the 00:22:55.520 --> 00:23:02.240 church digital all the way through it's my fault i own it so we get to this point well what what's the 00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:09.600 call to point point we're going to be and it was like well we want to get them in community um and and 00:23:09.600 --> 00:23:16.000 i'm going to be honest like i love um i mean we really at this point right now we have three different 00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:22.480 communities the church digital is pushing three different communities right now now obviously discord 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:27.520 which is all over the new website which by the way is the new call to action uh there's our facebook 00:23:27.520 --> 00:23:33.040 group we've got over 2 000 people that are over in our facebook group um and then that i built up 00:23:33.040 --> 00:23:38.560 during covid through stadia and some other organizations um and then there's mighty networks which is i don't 00:23:38.560 --> 00:23:44.320 know last i checked somewhere around a thousand plus or minus um and uh which is um 00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:50.400 it's you know god god says don't speak ill will of actually i don't know if that's 00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:54.320 biblical but my mom says don't speak ill will of people if you don't have anything nice to say 00:23:54.320 --> 00:24:01.920 don't say anything at all and um yeah so mighty networks everybody thank you very much uh listen 00:24:01.920 --> 00:24:07.360 we're not we're we're not going to be mighty networks is not long for the church digital um it's 00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:15.040 it's great in a lot of things um and it's lacking in a lot of things uh and and for for the price for 00:24:15.040 --> 00:24:22.960 what we're paying for it uh for what money we do have with everything else um we decided as an 00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:29.760 organization and i've said this i think publicly but we decided to move uh to discord um and facebook 00:24:29.760 --> 00:24:34.800 will continue to exist we will we will support to you as a matter of fact i've already had conversations 00:24:34.800 --> 00:24:41.200 with with our leadership so even specifically some of our leadership about um being the voice of facebook 00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:47.440 about staying on uh you know ian over here on discord is saying yay i way prefer discord well 00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:54.640 ian is a very technological person and it doesn't surprise me that ian would would want discord um 00:24:54.640 --> 00:25:00.560 you know some of our other you you know i have said this a dozen times in my life show me a soccer 00:25:00.560 --> 00:25:06.160 mom on discord just one i want to see one soccer mom who's excited about this it doesn't exist 00:25:06.160 --> 00:25:13.360 soccer moms don't want discord and that's the reality is that like there is a type of person 00:25:14.080 --> 00:25:23.040 um a gamer a techie who's excited about discord and and that's why we want to be there uh show me a 00:25:23.040 --> 00:25:29.680 soccer mom kid on discord um that's awesome jmo that's the line of the day uh there are plenty of 00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:34.720 soccer moms kids on discord which is why i want to be on discord tope right now from from africa 00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:40.080 discord is new to me but i'll learn how to use it that's it right there that's what i that's what i 00:25:40.080 --> 00:25:46.080 want to hear that's what i want to see man excited about that tope uh it is to you can go to the 00:25:46.080 --> 00:25:53.360 website and click follow the 27 now call to actions on the home page to drive you to the discord server 00:25:54.400 --> 00:26:02.800 or you can go to discord dot the church dot digital discord dot the church dot digital and that's going to get 00:26:02.800 --> 00:26:09.520 you to one of our mini or one of our that'll get you to our discord server i should have said that up 00:26:09.520 --> 00:26:14.720 front sorry i got literally laughing out loud i'm a gamer stuck in the body of a soccer 00:26:18.560 --> 00:26:24.800 oh barbara carnero for the win okay awesome uh tope yeah tope we've we've talked on discord i think at 00:26:24.800 --> 00:26:30.960 least once um maybe we've interacted if not by the way i am dear fudge on discord uh i think i'm dear 00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:36.640 fudge on discord am i dear fudge on discord yes i'm just i'm dear fudge d-e-r-f-f-e-j and so feel 00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:42.160 free to frame me directly find me on the server um you know you're already in here so let's let's do this 00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:47.280 thing um yeah so evidently there's this new website and there's new discord server to go with it 00:26:47.840 --> 00:26:54.640 uh facebook we'll we'll stick around now we're gonna we're gonna be the streaming the events the 00:26:54.640 --> 00:27:00.960 stuff that we do our our movement system instead of that being housed all in mighty networks we're 00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:05.760 going to move all of that to discord so jason morris the jmo right now is dealing with how to 00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:11.920 move our movement system over to discord and i am glad he's doing that because that's not something i 00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:19.120 want to do and so he and andy are working on that by the way andy is is now overseeing our community 00:27:19.120 --> 00:27:23.680 i think i've said that before so andy will be overseeing discord and be working with facebook 00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:33.520 um and then um jason jmo is overseeing our discipleship and then i'm overseeing um multiplication 00:27:33.520 --> 00:27:41.040 now some of you might be saying wow uh barbers connections community discipleship multiplication 00:27:41.520 --> 00:27:45.680 that's isn't that jeff isn't that your digital church framework why yes yes it is that's exactly 00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:51.600 what it is we've developed a leadership team to line up uh with this this framework uh because 00:27:51.600 --> 00:27:56.000 it's our desire to create the model for what a digital church should look like as we're equipping 00:27:56.000 --> 00:28:02.640 other um and discipling people and and equipping future planters we want to show them what these a 00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:09.760 successful model looks like in hopes that they'll emulate and be successful moving forward be patient 00:28:09.760 --> 00:28:16.720 on this uh next round of cohorts yes um hey you know what jason you'll appreciate this you may actually 00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:25.440 know this that better than i do google's gmail was in beta for eight years 11 years do you do you 00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:35.120 does anyone actually know how long google's gmail was in beta i mean it was it was longer than five that i know 00:28:36.080 --> 00:28:45.360 um anybody sue me beats sue me beats sue me beats you maybe not have it um five years okay good uh so i 00:28:45.360 --> 00:28:51.280 said it was longer five years five years in a day is longer than five years um tcd's movement system 00:28:51.280 --> 00:29:01.440 powered by a new thing will hopefully be in beta shorter than five years a kid no jmo's actually been working 00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:07.200 really hard on it and we're actually making really good time we just wasted several years uh earlier 00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:13.600 to that once again i own my crap it was my fault uh by the way i have a filter on my screen and so 00:29:13.600 --> 00:29:18.800 the when i said crap uh crap emoji kind of popped up on my screen here when i'm looking at 00:29:19.520 --> 00:29:26.240 um uh white beard punk mock you worked at ezekiel 00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:39.120 wait as in the clothing store or the uh the tech christian tech company ezekiel 00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:46.880 streaming is not good for me because i keep wanting to get pulled into these individual 00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:54.480 companies you worked for ezekiel i had no idea oh man we got a lot we got even more mutual friends 00:29:54.480 --> 00:30:00.160 than i realized i don't think we talked about that when we talked dude i was one of the um 00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:07.920 uh i mean i had a monk outfit from ezekiel monk was the name of the um 00:30:09.280 --> 00:30:15.760 the platform right am i getting my christian tech companies confused um monk 360 that came from 00:30:15.760 --> 00:30:24.160 ezekiel 360 which was based on on monk monk was a reseller of ezekiel 360 as okay now it's all 00:30:24.160 --> 00:30:29.840 coming back oh yeah man we we've off to jump on another call once we talk about your assessment we'll 00:30:29.840 --> 00:30:37.280 we'll do that um but we we really built this this modeled this whole thing around the model for 00:30:37.280 --> 00:30:44.640 hopefully what a digital church uh can can look like and how we can have healthy connections 00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:50.480 and how those connections can get driven into a community where there's relationship building that 00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:55.920 leads toward discipleship and there's understanding within that discipleship towards multiplication and 00:30:55.920 --> 00:31:02.320 even mobilization of of that moving forward and this is really what we're all centered around as we're 00:31:02.320 --> 00:31:10.080 wanting to get into the movement system which is the uh which is this this uh man barbara you need to 00:31:10.080 --> 00:31:17.200 give me a better word than than than funnel uh this circle of trust this this this cycle cycle let's 00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:22.800 go with cycle uh with this cycle and and jmo's talking about it now in discord the reproducing church 00:31:22.800 --> 00:31:30.400 catalyst uh starting in june where we want to get these digital churches multiplying mobilizing 00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:35.440 people and getting them out there into these digital communities we have such a huge 00:31:36.320 --> 00:31:42.240 opportunity and and and i would dare say and the people that know me know my heart know this to be 00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:48.560 true i i believe that we have a responsibility you know the rest of the church world looks at us 00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:55.440 really like we're a square peg in a round hole what are we supposed to do with these dorks these nerds these 00:31:55.440 --> 00:32:04.240 islands of misfit toys and you know what i i really do believe that there are people out there in the 00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:09.840 world that we're going to reach digitally that cannot be reached in physical space by a church building 00:32:11.760 --> 00:32:20.080 and so i want to challenge us man it's time to get equipped it's time to do the experiment it's time to 00:32:20.080 --> 00:32:25.520 surround myself with some some volunteers and some leaders and some people that that can can can make 00:32:25.520 --> 00:32:29.600 us be better it's it's time to to try something different 00:32:32.080 --> 00:32:40.320 so we'll be posting information here within discord in in everywhere uh towards uh oh jmo's fighting for 00:32:40.320 --> 00:32:48.000 final luke 647 process no you're not fighting for final i see it now uh the luke 647 somebody's got to 00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:52.320 copy paste that you know i'm not gonna like stop streaming till okay i'm gonna stop streaming to 00:32:52.320 --> 00:32:57.600 look up luke 647 because i just called myself out if i will not look up the word of god because i'm 00:32:57.600 --> 00:33:04.240 on a stream i have my bible right here at my desk conveniently placed i open straight up to daniel 1 00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:08.160 but uh hey daniel uh your book daniel do you know you have a book in here 00:33:09.760 --> 00:33:13.840 the horrible thing is i don't have my glasses all i have my glasses are over there so i will be able to read 00:33:17.600 --> 00:33:29.040 luke 8 luke 7 luke 5 luke 6 20 so of course i skipped two pages and now they're stuck together 00:33:29.040 --> 00:33:35.680 oh look the octopus has got it on here as for everyone who comes to me and here's my word and 00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:43.920 puts them into practice i will show you what they are like okay if you're curious that is that's bible.com 00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:48.720 one looking up old-fashioned zero but if you can zoom in on the screen i did find the right page 00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:54.080 it just well uh there's no way my eyes would be able to read that time upon i will show you what 00:33:54.080 --> 00:33:59.760 it's like when someone comes to me listens to my teaching and then follows it it is like a person 00:33:59.760 --> 00:34:05.280 building a house who digs deep and lays the foundation on solid rock 00:34:07.360 --> 00:34:13.280 it's a three-part process jmo you can you jump on the screen and like preach 00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:16.400 if i like bring you up can you come up 00:34:19.600 --> 00:34:24.160 well no no i can't oh you know what i can't do this okay maybe you can jmo come on 00:34:27.040 --> 00:34:28.400 my problem is is that 00:34:31.040 --> 00:34:34.000 we well we're kind of good because i just realized i brought you up to the speaker but 00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:37.600 i'm also streaming in the background over to mighty networks and mighty networks can't hear you 00:34:37.600 --> 00:34:42.640 so i'm gonna like repeat what you say over to the mighty networks people but jmo you're looking 00:34:42.640 --> 00:34:44.160 really snazzy in the jacket 00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:52.960 how's that for branding luke 647 process so if if you're in mighty networks and not in discord i am 00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:58.080 not going to repeat everything he just said because um yeah the the it's the smartest man in digital 00:34:58.080 --> 00:35:06.240 church man i can't i can't eloquently describe what this guy says like there's no way um but we'll uh 00:35:06.240 --> 00:35:10.080 paul steinbeck how you doing scott carpenter haven't haven't uh man haven't seen you in a 00:35:10.080 --> 00:35:16.080 while good this good to catch up with you um so we're really excited about our discipleship process 00:35:16.080 --> 00:35:20.480 which we are ramping up here our movement system our moves this and you're going to see that happen 00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:27.520 in uh in a big way in the coming um in the coming weeks and months as as we're continuing to bait 00:35:27.520 --> 00:35:31.520 it through here this will be our first rcc reproducing churches catalysts and so we're 00:35:31.520 --> 00:35:36.080 looking for some some people to be guinea pigs with us on that jump on here uh you know 00:35:36.080 --> 00:35:42.560 it's interesting i wrote this for the website this morning um you know new thing who we we take is 00:35:42.560 --> 00:35:48.640 our our discipleship partner who we take the movement system from new thing is um i mean they're they've 00:35:48.640 --> 00:35:56.320 tens of thousands of people have gone through uh the movement system um like literally every continent 00:35:56.320 --> 00:36:03.120 except for antarctica has new has uh movement system disciples on it and so whether or not this stuff 00:36:03.120 --> 00:36:10.800 works isn't isn't up for up for question it does work um we're we are are the the organization we're 00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:15.920 the people that get to take it to a new culture to new environments into digital into virtual into 00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:21.600 the metaverse and it's like man such an incredible honor such an incredible opportunity such an incredible 00:36:21.600 --> 00:36:30.400 um mandate man they man listen i'm i'm i'm i'm fired up i'm excited about the road ahead of us and i hope 00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:39.040 you are are too with that come listen follow obey hill me can you wordsmith yes there you go uh j j mo and 00:36:39.040 --> 00:36:44.080 barbara um hey good news is we got a leadership meeting tomorrow so we can talk about that it'll be good 00:36:44.080 --> 00:36:54.080 um hey another change because you know we're not done yet uh social media all right i screwed up 00:36:56.000 --> 00:37:03.760 i feel like this is uh apologetic jeff day uh who's miss da la la la la is wasn't that the thing in uh 00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:08.160 i don't i don't know if it's okay to make fun of names when it sees but when i see miss da la la la la 00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:15.280 um who remembers the cobra tv movie uh the the gi joe tv movie that came out in the 80s the the 00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:23.120 animated one or early 90s um with uh serpentor oh yes you know serpentor the cobra la la la la la 00:37:23.120 --> 00:37:29.920 sorry we're back mistala great glad to have you here cobra law yeah ian ian's got me he knows um 00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:37.120 i don't even know where it was i screwed up this is the jeff reed apologizes for living day uh 00:37:37.120 --> 00:37:49.040 i breathed i made a mistake um sarah that's so good um so um you know when when new social media 00:37:49.040 --> 00:37:58.240 platforms come out um i'm i'm really good at at like buying the or registering the domain registering the 00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:04.560 the social media handles for the church digital i register for the deer fetch as well deer fetch 00:38:04.560 --> 00:38:09.520 everywhere um i mean i i own 100 or some domains 00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:18.480 and um so barbara is coming on she's helping with connections and communications and some of that 00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:24.800 and she's like hey okay um do you have a tick tock account oh yeah i got a tick tock account you don't 00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:30.640 use it no no no we don't nobody wants to see me dance we're good we're getting into that um i don't need 00:38:30.640 --> 00:38:37.120 to dance but we do have a tick tock account and uh she's she's like well give me the give me the login 00:38:37.120 --> 00:38:46.480 information and so i went digging and i went digging and i went digging and i could not find the church 00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:52.640 digital information for the for the the account now i found deer fetch deer fetch i set up the account 00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:57.680 and evidently some other guys using the church digital on tick tock i don't know what he's doing 00:38:57.680 --> 00:39:02.560 but he's not me and he's not us and he's not the church digital he's not affiliated with us in any way 00:39:03.200 --> 00:39:10.080 i'm not accusing the guy of stealing my handle um but i think we should totally all just go like 00:39:10.080 --> 00:39:14.080 raid them do we do raids in tick tock i don't i don't think that's really it's probably more of a 00:39:14.080 --> 00:39:20.640 twitch thing um no i i we didn't get to the church digital and so i was the church digital 00:39:21.200 --> 00:39:25.840 everywhere we were the church digital everywhere organizationally it was church digital every 00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:31.520 we should call fire down from heaven we don't need to go haul jezebel on this guy 00:39:31.520 --> 00:39:34.880 okay let's let's not go there oh my gosh jmo 00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:51.360 oh my goodness um but i just i screwed up i didn't get it and so um we ended up getting a new 00:39:52.560 --> 00:40:01.680 we ended up getting a new uh handle and um we just decided to move everything to the new handle 00:40:01.680 --> 00:40:07.920 and so on social media now the church digital we are now officially even youtube be the church digital 00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:18.240 and and you know what i i like that because it there's action it's a it's a verb it's okay we're 00:40:18.240 --> 00:40:26.560 we're not consuming digital we are being the church in digital we're doing the great commission 00:40:27.520 --> 00:40:33.520 but digital it's there's there's action there's activity there's purpose there's directive there's 00:40:35.520 --> 00:40:45.760 mandate make listen guys it's it's up to us on this not consuming but being did i say that i'll let you 00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:50.560 say that uh oh yes no i didn't say that you said that you barbara said that good i didn't think i 00:40:50.560 --> 00:40:57.600 said that because that was that's a heavy sledgehammer you're swinging there um i love it but that's for 00:40:57.600 --> 00:41:04.400 us in social and especially social my gosh it's so easy to consume content it's so easy to to get stuck 00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:13.600 up and in playing the game and in the rigmarole and um but it's it's very important uh for us as as leaders 00:41:14.240 --> 00:41:16.240 to be people of of action 00:41:20.080 --> 00:41:28.640 the world the church they're already judging us they're already just this this hurts this is the 00:41:28.640 --> 00:41:35.120 this is the therapist too um they're already judging us based off of of of what we're doing 00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:39.600 and if you've not experienced that good for you you're you're one in the few at this point 00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:43.920 um be people of action 00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:51.200 you know it's interesting over the past several years um it was funny we were talking about jade earlier 00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:57.360 man i went to and dan daniel heron i don't know if you're still around daniel i can't uh i can't see 00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:04.560 is daniel octopus yeah okay um daniel i didn't know you were octopus um daniel man i have fought so 00:42:04.560 --> 00:42:10.960 many battles on your behalf you know you i don't even think i've told you how many times i've i've 00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:17.680 dressed down people who were you know being typical christians 00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:26.080 bad-mouthing bad new ideas yeah they can deal with it i get you but that's that's what we should 00:42:26.080 --> 00:42:30.800 be right you know it's interesting you know i started saying because once i got tired of all 00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:39.680 these actually it was after john mcarthur took his shots at us john mcarthur um publicly slammed um 00:42:39.680 --> 00:42:42.800 actually chesley and i uh this is back during the digital church network days 00:42:43.600 --> 00:42:48.640 and so um i don't want to talk about it too much anymore but but it was in that moment where it was 00:42:48.640 --> 00:42:55.840 like i um they're going to judge us from our mission field our battlefields the mission field 00:42:55.840 --> 00:43:00.640 our battlefield is discipleship our battlefield is is the missional activity our battlefield is is 00:43:00.640 --> 00:43:08.720 is out there uh you can judge us by our fruit um and by our character that's it and if macarthur 00:43:08.720 --> 00:43:16.640 wants to take shots he can it was interesting i it was actually i sent he he ripped me he didn't know 00:43:16.640 --> 00:43:23.120 it but he ripped me like the literal day that my uh my virtual reality book came out so we sent him 00:43:23.120 --> 00:43:27.040 a free copy he never said thank you by the way i always thought that was kind of rude 00:43:30.640 --> 00:43:39.920 i have too much kingdom i'm not to do even pay attention to those people that's funny i i you know 00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:52.160 it's funny i um i will finish the story so when when the macarthur thing hit i was so angry to be honest 00:43:52.720 --> 00:43:58.960 and i didn't get better than i did um but i i just i i received it i was in the middle of things i was 00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:03.920 really tired and and i just i i didn't have i didn't have a sounding board to kind of vent on 00:44:05.600 --> 00:44:12.800 and um i i um i texted three or four people or dm three or four people kind of they were in my circle 00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:22.080 of influence just fuming about it and it was funny my wife's a school teacher and so i texted her and 00:44:22.080 --> 00:44:30.400 this was during the school day and my wife will never text me back because i um because she won't 00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:35.280 step out of her class because like she just as a school teacher she won't she doesn't want to be 00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:44.080 interrupted and uh my wife called me immediately she stepped out of her class because she didn't 00:44:44.080 --> 00:44:51.040 want me to do something stupid and i i love i love her for this and so she calls me and she and she 00:44:51.040 --> 00:44:58.160 says we talked for like 30 seconds and uh and she says okay jeff think about it um john macarthur knows 00:44:58.160 --> 00:45:07.120 who you are and and i i just i kept spewing anger and she says no jeff you're you're not hearing me 00:45:08.160 --> 00:45:16.960 john macarthur knows who you are and i was like oh i see what you're saying so basically john macarthur 00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:23.200 is now the the highest ranking old white man i've managed to take off and uh i i wear that as with a 00:45:23.200 --> 00:45:28.080 badge of honor actually he should wear that with a badge of honor uh yeah that's exactly 00:45:28.080 --> 00:45:31.920 hey uh that's exactly who i'm talking about born again gamer hey born again gamer nice to meet you 00:45:32.560 --> 00:45:38.800 uh yeah john macarthur from grace from you uh now i love john macarthur i i actually have got in my 00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:46.720 library i've got a bunch of his books uh i've got um uh his study bible i used to run a christian 00:45:46.720 --> 00:45:54.560 bookstore john macarthur is a major part of of my life um he's just not a fan of digital church let's just 00:45:54.560 --> 00:45:59.440 let's just land it that way i don't maybe i'm speaking too ill will here on the on the stream 00:46:01.040 --> 00:46:05.600 there's an exciting thing um well hey let me say one thing before i get to the exciting thing 00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:07.680 um 00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:18.560 i'm gonna share it as a prayer request i'm gonna and i haven't actually done this before i'm actually 00:46:18.560 --> 00:46:23.920 thinking through right now i don't know that i've ever done this i'm gonna ask you guys to pray for me 00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:29.600 not like right now in chat like i'm i mean that's nice if you want to but um 00:46:31.680 --> 00:46:38.400 the the circle around me keeps getting bigger and bigger as i tell these stories and and um more and 00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:47.600 more get get brought in um but my my health in recent months uh has has taken a nosedive i'm not dying 00:46:47.600 --> 00:46:56.560 and no to pull a uh uh arnold schwarzenegger it's not cancer um is that how he said it it's not a tumor 00:46:56.560 --> 00:47:00.800 man i butchered the line that was a last minute throw in i didn't think i was going to do this 00:47:01.520 --> 00:47:07.040 um it's not a tumor it's not cancer it's it's it's at least they don't think it's cancer they 00:47:07.040 --> 00:47:12.720 thought it was cancer for a little bit and then it went away um but my body is just not not reacting 00:47:12.720 --> 00:47:20.960 very well um i i have talked about the diabetes um it's i've i've actually you know you never beat 00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:28.400 the diabetes but i'm out of the diabetic range uh i've lost 105 110 pounds probably in the past six 00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:33.680 months i've lost as much as 60 um and so i'm a shell of the man that i was kind of before this 00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:43.040 um but my my health has been um worse not better neuropathy i have no feeling below beneath my calves 00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:50.640 um that's actually spreading um i've started losing feeling and senses um in my stomach which is a 00:47:50.640 --> 00:47:58.000 weird place in my back in my knees i'm actually getting a lot of knee pain and back pain as well in 00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:06.640 other places uh some internal pain um in the stomach and abdomen area um they don't think it's diabetic 00:48:06.640 --> 00:48:12.880 related but they're trying to figure out what else is wrong with me which which is a scary place to 00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:17.280 be when the doctors are like we don't know but take this medicine and see what happens when i'm already 00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:25.280 swallowing like 20 pills a day and so it's kind of messed up right now um and so i am um 00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:34.160 constantly exhausted i am um like i probably work 00:48:36.080 --> 00:48:40.720 two maybe three hours a day at best i um 00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:47.280 like after the stream i'll probably stop and probably have to take like a 30 minute to an hour 00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:53.040 nap just to recoup i gotta pick my kids up at at three so i can't go too long here beyond two 00:48:53.680 --> 00:48:57.680 um but it's interesting like for the guy that was 00:48:57.680 --> 00:49:08.160 he was a um a workaholic a get it done guy uh a producer a guy that built the church digital what 00:49:08.160 --> 00:49:09.520 it is uh i mean 00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:16.320 virtually on his own with volunteer support 00:49:17.600 --> 00:49:23.360 um it's been really hard in recent months 00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:30.480 because i just i haven't been able to do it you know i've i feel like i've been the jeff reed 00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:36.160 apologist to hey i gotta cancel this meeting i'm sorry uh i'm not gonna tell you this but i'm literally 00:49:36.160 --> 00:49:43.760 vomiting in the toilet right now hey i'm sorry um i i cancel this meeting uh i'm in bed on my mobile phone 00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:48.720 texting you but i i don't have the strength even to stand up today um 00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:54.480 man it's been it's been hard on my wife it's been hard on my family 00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:55.840 um 00:49:57.120 --> 00:50:00.960 my my my my daughter um 00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:06.960 actually asked me the other day she's like well daddy if you get better 00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:11.040 and then ask me a question like in her mind it's like i'm not going to get better 00:50:11.040 --> 00:50:15.840 my my wife told me the other day she says even if they have to chop your legs off i'll still love you 00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:22.880 uh what father wants to what husband wants to hear that like but this this is this is the reality of 00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:30.080 of because it's just it's been so weird i hadn't been to a doctor in two decades and all of a sudden 00:50:30.080 --> 00:50:35.520 i've got seven on speed dial and i have i have to manage prescriptions and shots and it's just it's 00:50:36.160 --> 00:50:42.400 it's been surreal um and it's funny you know there was a season in my life where i thought this is 00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:48.080 this is like two months ago where it's like okay god's in control i know god's in control i'm not 00:50:48.080 --> 00:50:53.200 questioning god i've seen enough in my life to know that god's real and god's in control of this 00:50:53.200 --> 00:50:58.640 which means god wants me to have um neuropathy god wants me to walk with a cane 00:50:59.520 --> 00:51:02.880 god wants me to be in pain god wants me to feel this 00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:10.400 that messed with my head you're going to be like okay why is that messing with your head well 00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:15.680 god i've done all this for you and this is how you treat me this is this is my response back this 00:51:15.680 --> 00:51:21.280 is what i deserve but even after all i've done i deserve worse than this and it took a good friend 00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:31.520 to show me that to be honest all of this and the limitation of jeff you know it's paul talks about 00:51:31.520 --> 00:51:37.120 the thorn in his side right the thorn of the flesh most people think that he paul was handicapped uh in 00:51:37.120 --> 00:51:49.680 some level um i think that this cane that i walk with and this position that i am in i think that's god's 00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:52.640 desire to put me in the place where i need to be 00:51:55.520 --> 00:52:02.240 normally you've seen me be a very strong leader a very outward-spoken very public-facing leader 00:52:03.200 --> 00:52:10.880 and over the past six to nine months i've learned how to be a secondary leader you know following behind 00:52:11.520 --> 00:52:19.120 people like andy mage people like andy people like jmo and in this next season of the church digital 00:52:21.120 --> 00:52:26.640 you're gonna see that continue even more so yeah i'm still gonna be around i'm gonna do these streams 00:52:27.200 --> 00:52:34.240 tuesday at 1 p.m this time every week i will stream um in discord and mighty networks as long as we have 00:52:34.240 --> 00:52:40.480 mighty networks so i'm gonna continue on with that um you know as long as i'm not like head in a toilet 00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:44.560 i'll be streaming and if my head is in a toilet you don't want to see me stream 00:52:46.160 --> 00:52:49.760 i'm trying to figure out now if i know i'm not i'm not even going to go there um 00:52:52.080 --> 00:53:00.560 but the church digital is going to be group led it's going to be team led those leaders that i mentioned 00:53:00.560 --> 00:53:13.600 earlier um flat cap tom um layton flat cap tom andy barbara carnero uh jason morris um these are are the 00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:22.560 these are the people i trust these are the people i listen to you know in my experience 00:53:22.560 --> 00:53:26.960 there's two different types of leaders uh there's leaders that surround themselves thank you ian 00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:31.280 distributed leadership is the future there's two different types of leaders there's leaders that 00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:35.600 surround themselves with yes men and then there's leaders with surround themselves with smart people 00:53:36.560 --> 00:53:44.160 um and i um i wanted this organization to be led by smart people i wanted to be led by smart people 00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:52.080 uh because smart people make me better and uh already i mean i can think of multiple situations 00:53:52.080 --> 00:53:57.600 within the past month where the smart people that are around me have changed my mind 00:53:59.920 --> 00:54:06.240 to be honest to move to discord was one of them i was not sure on the timing and uh when literally 00:54:06.240 --> 00:54:11.680 a hundred percent vote of senior leadership said we need to move to discord and i was the only 00:54:11.680 --> 00:54:18.000 person saying we need to think about it it's not much to think about is there and so hey we're in 00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:23.840 discord that's awesome i just totally screamed and busted somebody's headphones distributed 00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:28.320 leadership is the future that is a is a conversation we need to have have soon 00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:34.640 hey guys this has been a lot of fun oh there was going to be a surprise i was going to share with 00:54:34.640 --> 00:54:39.360 you on this uh leadership and everybody else that's on here guys thanks for jumping on here man there's 00:54:39.360 --> 00:54:47.280 a bunch of people in both platforms and and excited to see um what what god does um with with all of this 00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:54.160 moving forward um because all of us we're all just servants for for him um regardless of the context 00:54:54.160 --> 00:54:59.200 this is not about brand um but it's interesting in in that brand 00:55:01.200 --> 00:55:02.720 i'm already starting to see god move 00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:04.800 um 00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:12.720 when you look at the church digital website you're going to see uh on the landing page there's an 00:55:12.720 --> 00:55:19.680 animation up at the top and it's this it's this uh square and it's it's kind of animated it's doing 00:55:19.680 --> 00:55:25.040 some different effects on it actually there's a bunch of squares now i've got some different effects 00:55:25.040 --> 00:55:32.720 happening and um the first version of that was one square this is this is maybe 00:55:34.640 --> 00:55:37.760 three weeks ago two weeks ago like this conversation is not that long ago 00:55:38.560 --> 00:55:40.800 uh andy and i took a look at the first animation 00:55:42.640 --> 00:55:47.120 i'm not really feeling it had that conversation with barbara canero and her team uh in front of her 00:55:47.120 --> 00:55:51.760 team it's like hey you know i'm kind of surprised here um you know normally 00:55:52.640 --> 00:55:57.360 we're so technological as as an organization we're already talking digital church like 00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:05.120 i don't want people to forget that that it's about people and so instead of this like animation 00:56:05.120 --> 00:56:09.600 um you know do the animation so most we can bury it it's it's i mean i like the effect but i 00:56:09.600 --> 00:56:16.080 don't it doesn't really serve a purpose why don't we put it down um why don't we put it down i don't 00:56:16.080 --> 00:56:21.280 know like but as a background or something and like you know give us photos of kids like playing video 00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:26.880 games or kids on on iphones or you know gin a or gin z and you know it's trying to young it up the 00:56:26.880 --> 00:56:33.200 audience because we're a bunch of bald bearded buffaloes i don't know why it's stuck in my head 00:56:34.240 --> 00:56:40.480 and um and barbara shook her head yes i think quietly in her mind she's thinking no that's a 00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:45.360 horrible idea uh but she says give my team a little while let us work on some things 00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:48.240 and uh 00:56:50.320 --> 00:56:54.800 daniel you are one of the kids playing video games shut up daniel speak for yourself i have a head full 00:56:54.800 --> 00:57:04.000 of hair you're like 22 man 24 are you even 25 conversation for a different day so 24 so i um 00:57:06.080 --> 00:57:08.800 so we come back around and she shows version two 00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:17.280 well instead of one square cube there's now it's the version you see now it's like four or five 00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:25.520 different effects kind of splattered around and and i'm like okay i mean i guess i see what's what's 00:57:25.520 --> 00:57:34.960 happening here um i see multiplication which i like i like the effect i'm good with it 00:57:37.120 --> 00:57:42.080 and um a couple days ago it was like three in the morning i couldn't sleep back pain was horrible 00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:48.800 and it was funny i i didn't even have i don't even think i could see the animation 00:57:49.520 --> 00:57:53.680 i couldn't see the website because i didn't have like the dedicated url for the temp server that it 00:57:53.680 --> 00:58:00.400 was on just i didn't have it easily accessible but i'm staring at the tv watching uh i don't know 00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:06.640 probably x-men 97 episode three for like the 47th time because that show is freaking incredible another 00:58:06.640 --> 00:58:16.320 time um but uh the idea of the cube kind of popped in my head and in a and i literally i i went and 00:58:16.320 --> 00:58:23.440 grabbed my ipad real quick and started sketching squares because of my mind it's like hey that 00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:28.800 framework hey i mean i love the boosted i have no idea what the boosted even means 00:58:28.800 --> 00:58:34.320 in discord somebody have to educate me later but thank you thank you white beard thank you octopus for for 00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:43.200 boosting the server um this square uh just popped in and literally i started talking about okay squares are 00:58:43.200 --> 00:58:53.840 four they're my my framework for church planting connection community discipleship multiplication 00:58:53.840 --> 00:59:02.480 that's four that's like the four corners of the square and if we talk about multiplication 00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:08.720 multiplication drives us to apprentice so now we're apprenticing to create new examples of church 00:59:08.720 --> 00:59:15.600 and that can be the vertical line that's going back uh to create that the second group of the cube and 00:59:15.600 --> 00:59:23.360 so really the apprentice is now creating his own or her own connection community discipleship multiplication 00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:30.320 and so really what we're looking at with each cube is this is what a network is 00:59:32.320 --> 00:59:37.040 within the church digital on how we're challenging all of us to create our own 00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:44.880 movements our own networks not of of our own work and not of our own efforts 00:59:46.240 --> 00:59:50.960 but something that god can do that god can use to create disciples 00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:58.320 in digital spaces via digital tools to reach people in that are more comfortable in these environments 01:00:01.120 --> 01:00:05.600 and then i started thinking about oh my gosh on the website there's these eight-bit characters 01:00:05.600 --> 01:00:12.640 eight bits are squares that's like totally who we are and then i started thinking of the church dot digital and how 01:00:12.640 --> 01:00:19.840 the church dot digital in the new brand is a square and then i started thinking about wait the cross itself 01:00:20.640 --> 01:00:28.560 in the church digital is a bunch of squares just gridded together off grid together i guess 01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:36.960 and it was really interesting to me and i don't i don't know if god works in this way or barbara's really smart or 01:00:37.680 --> 01:00:42.080 maybe i'm just grasping for straws and and let's maybe say that it's a little bit of all three 01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:43.120 um 01:00:45.680 --> 01:00:54.080 but i am excited about the clarity the purpose and the direction in the team that we have moving forward 01:00:55.120 --> 01:01:03.040 and i'm excited that all of you took a freaking hour out of your day to jump into discord and mighty networks 01:01:03.040 --> 01:01:12.160 to listen to this old man rant sitting in a chair um into this microphone so hey um i am going to pray 01:01:12.160 --> 01:01:16.400 us out of discord this will be the first this is the first live stream in discord on the church 01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:23.840 digital super server and uh oh yeah square is perfect yeah she did she's she's she's she's pretty smart 01:01:24.480 --> 01:01:29.840 uh but uh let me pray us out and then i'm gonna figure out how to hang up because i actually have no 01:01:29.840 --> 01:01:35.680 idea how to hang this thing up heavenly father god thank you for uh thank you for these men these women 01:01:35.680 --> 01:01:43.120 these people uh thank you for um this community thank you for uh how much 01:01:45.600 --> 01:01:47.200 honestly god thank you for how much they mean to me 01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:51.680 thank you for their their encouragement um 01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:59.360 during a day at the beginning of a hard week uh thank you for their prayers thank you for their 01:01:59.920 --> 01:02:05.120 uh their laughters thank you for the smile that they put on my face today 01:02:07.680 --> 01:02:14.960 god we have an exciting opportunity ahead uh to disciple people in digital space to uh to train them on 01:02:14.960 --> 01:02:22.800 on on on leadership and to to help them uh plant and start unique expressions of church in digital and 01:02:22.800 --> 01:02:30.080 virtual space god um many will not be with us on this journey 01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:41.200 that's on them god we ask we beg we plead for you to be with us on this journey and we are thankful that 01:02:41.200 --> 01:02:47.440 you've been with us this far in the process and we look forward to what you have for all of us 01:02:48.240 --> 01:02:58.000 very soon in your name we pray amen thank you all stream i'll be on next tuesday 1 p.m eastern 01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:11.600 in discord and probably mining networks thanks y'all bye 01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:16.560 you