WEBVTT 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:02.420 Welcome to the Church Digital Podcast. 00:00:03.380 --> 00:00:07.240 Through this podcast, we'll talk about the technological innovations within the church. 00:00:07.620 --> 00:00:11.080 But more than tech for tech itself, we'll address deeper questions. 00:00:11.700 --> 00:00:13.300 Is disciple making possible digitally? 00:00:13.760 --> 00:00:15.760 How should we approach the digital mission field? 00:00:16.060 --> 00:00:18.620 Can a biblically grounded church operate in digital space? 00:00:19.060 --> 00:00:22.940 Oh, and where does the metaverse and artificial intelligence fit into all of this? 00:00:23.660 --> 00:00:25.840 Whether you're a big or small church, 00:00:25.840 --> 00:00:30.680 the Church Digital's goal is to help churches like yours learn to be a multiplying church, 00:00:31.040 --> 00:00:32.520 digitally and physically. 00:00:33.020 --> 00:00:34.680 And now here's your host, Jeff Reed. 00:00:34.900 --> 00:00:39.480 Well, shoot, I don't know about you, but I could just listen to this music for a while more. 00:00:40.180 --> 00:00:44.920 I kind of thought, hey, let me just let it play longer. 00:00:45.500 --> 00:00:48.180 And that's a little too fast for me now. 00:00:48.240 --> 00:00:48.560 I don't know. 00:00:49.240 --> 00:00:51.620 I maybe, I like the EDM. 00:00:51.740 --> 00:00:52.700 I like the techno. 00:00:52.700 --> 00:00:56.040 You know, I like the, the, um, I like this stuff. 00:00:56.260 --> 00:00:59.920 Like, I was always a techno kid growing up in the 90s. 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:01.920 Um, you know, it's funny. 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:07.140 I woke up this morning, Fat Boy Slim was, was in my head, praise you. 00:01:07.240 --> 00:01:13.140 I literally had the rhythm of praise you, um, just in my head for, for the first hour 00:01:13.140 --> 00:01:14.780 before I got going. 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:19.580 Um, I was, I started like singing it in the, in the shower and my wife was making fun of 00:01:19.580 --> 00:01:19.760 me. 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:21.360 True story, 100%. 00:01:21.360 --> 00:01:24.520 And so, yeah, welcome to my world. 00:01:24.580 --> 00:01:26.140 Hey, Jeff here with the Church Digital. 00:01:26.540 --> 00:01:27.700 I'm excited about today. 00:01:27.760 --> 00:01:30.620 We got Fat Cap, um, coming in. 00:01:30.700 --> 00:01:32.840 We got, uh, we got Stacy as well. 00:01:33.200 --> 00:01:35.140 Uh, Stacy giving a shout out here. 00:01:35.260 --> 00:01:35.940 Hey, hey. 00:01:36.600 --> 00:01:39.040 Uh, nothing like, uh, hey, hey. 00:01:39.520 --> 00:01:45.420 Uh, coming in from the East Coast, Flat Cap, uh, I'm listening to DJ Soto's AI album. 00:01:45.460 --> 00:01:45.900 That's interesting. 00:01:45.960 --> 00:01:46.660 I hadn't heard that. 00:01:46.800 --> 00:01:50.740 And so I need to, um, I, I saw you talking about some of that online. 00:01:50.740 --> 00:01:52.640 I'll have to, uh, to check that out. 00:01:55.220 --> 00:01:55.960 It's crazy. 00:01:55.960 --> 00:02:01.840 We, we live in this crazy world, man, where, um, AI, AI was supposed to do the, the, the 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:05.000 menial jobs to allow more creativity among people. 00:02:05.700 --> 00:02:10.640 Yet somehow we ended up where AI is doing all the artistic jobs and people are like, well, 00:02:10.660 --> 00:02:11.640 what am I supposed to do now? 00:02:11.740 --> 00:02:14.160 Like, that's a whole other conversation for a different day. 00:02:14.240 --> 00:02:20.640 Not going to get there today, but oh my gosh, we are, um, it's, uh, well, it's the, it's 00:02:20.640 --> 00:02:21.100 the new world. 00:02:21.420 --> 00:02:21.960 So welcome. 00:02:22.360 --> 00:02:23.000 Glad you're here. 00:02:23.320 --> 00:02:24.880 Hey, it's 2025. 00:02:25.540 --> 00:02:26.220 It is 2025. 00:02:26.760 --> 00:02:29.000 I think we're, I think it's 2025. 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:29.540 Okay. 00:02:29.540 --> 00:02:30.160 Let's do this. 00:02:30.500 --> 00:02:32.840 Um, purple disco machine. 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:34.520 I'll have to, I'll have to listen to that. 00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:35.460 Stacy, send me a link. 00:02:35.700 --> 00:02:36.900 Um, on that. 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:39.680 This is, uh, you're, you are using a language. 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:40.840 I do not understand. 00:02:41.200 --> 00:02:43.000 I am, I am not cool. 00:02:43.280 --> 00:02:45.080 I, I, I have always said this publicly. 00:02:45.440 --> 00:02:48.240 I am not the cool kid. 00:02:48.540 --> 00:02:51.440 Uh, I, I play a cool kid on, on TV. 00:02:51.820 --> 00:03:00.200 Uh, Stacy, uh, is, is by far, I was, I was a radio DJ, um, out of, out of choice, but 00:03:00.200 --> 00:03:01.280 not really the good one. 00:03:01.340 --> 00:03:02.200 They kind of buried me. 00:03:02.200 --> 00:03:07.360 They gave me like the, the night shift, 8 PM, 2 AM, uh, where I hung out with a bunch 00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:09.380 of like psychos, which was awesome. 00:03:10.260 --> 00:03:13.600 It's a bunch of psychos to listen to radio at like two in the morning on weekends. 00:03:13.600 --> 00:03:16.980 I'm just saying like, there's a, it's a, it's a, it's the party crowd. 00:03:17.640 --> 00:03:18.760 You may be the party crowd. 00:03:18.860 --> 00:03:20.300 The party crowd was listening to this stuff. 00:03:20.300 --> 00:03:22.020 And so that's, that's one of the reasons why I love it. 00:03:22.360 --> 00:03:23.660 I'm going down a road. 00:03:23.860 --> 00:03:25.340 I do not want to go down today. 00:03:25.460 --> 00:03:26.480 Stacy, stop it. 00:03:26.720 --> 00:03:27.280 Stop it. 00:03:27.580 --> 00:03:32.120 Let me not go down this road because I want to talk about something today. 00:03:32.220 --> 00:03:33.500 I'm excited about today. 00:03:33.960 --> 00:03:35.180 I, God bless you all. 00:03:35.240 --> 00:03:37.160 I am going to be talking. 00:03:38.020 --> 00:03:43.640 I'm going to be doing so much 25 things for 2025. 00:03:44.040 --> 00:03:47.620 I don't know about you, but I am jacked up excited about 2025. 00:03:48.300 --> 00:03:52.020 And, uh, I was telling, I was telling my wife and I was telling some of the crowd, like 00:03:52.020 --> 00:03:56.080 I have not been this excited heading into a new year. 00:03:56.300 --> 00:03:58.380 Like things are just clicking. 00:03:58.620 --> 00:03:59.780 There's so much excitement. 00:03:59.880 --> 00:04:00.860 There's so much opportunity. 00:04:01.100 --> 00:04:03.240 The path is so much, it's so clear. 00:04:06.660 --> 00:04:07.820 I have so much excitement. 00:04:07.960 --> 00:04:09.480 I need to drink coffee to sustain. 00:04:09.600 --> 00:04:09.840 No, I'm kidding. 00:04:09.980 --> 00:04:16.100 But I need, I am just so excited about the road that we're on with, with the church digital. 00:04:16.980 --> 00:04:22.320 And, uh, and so I was, I was trying to think yesterday, what I want to talk about five promises. 00:04:22.640 --> 00:04:23.620 Let's do five promises. 00:04:23.980 --> 00:04:27.020 The church digital five TCD promises for 2025. 00:04:28.800 --> 00:04:32.660 And I just sat down at the keyboard trying to knock out five promises of 2025. 00:04:33.540 --> 00:04:38.600 And, uh, I, you know, when I got to about 18, I realized, okay, I'm thinking too small. 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:42.740 And that's time to expand my vision. 00:04:43.960 --> 00:04:49.360 And so I got to 25 promises of 2025 and realized, Hey, this is a, it's a pretty good number. 00:04:49.540 --> 00:04:51.260 I'm glad where we are with this. 00:04:51.260 --> 00:04:52.640 So we're going to go ahead and roll with it. 00:04:56.320 --> 00:04:58.720 25 promises for 2025. 00:04:59.020 --> 00:04:59.560 Are you ready? 00:04:59.720 --> 00:05:00.320 I'm ready. 00:05:00.820 --> 00:05:03.280 Uh, Stacy flat cap, others in the room hanging out. 00:05:03.460 --> 00:05:05.760 If you got questions, don't want to chat. 00:05:06.100 --> 00:05:13.740 I want to hear from you as we're wrestling through 25 ways, 25 ways. 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:21.960 The church digital is going to impact you in your ministry in 2025. 00:05:22.920 --> 00:05:24.320 Like let's, let's get real. 00:05:24.420 --> 00:05:25.440 Let's take it down. 00:05:25.860 --> 00:05:30.200 Let's, let's tell stream beats to, to, to, to take it down a little, a little bit here. 00:05:30.440 --> 00:05:32.020 He's kind of doing it for me a little bit. 00:05:32.040 --> 00:05:33.240 I can feel it in the background. 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:34.160 Come on. 00:05:34.180 --> 00:05:35.280 Keep, keep, keep it, keep it low. 00:05:35.340 --> 00:05:36.620 Keep it chill here for a second, bro. 00:05:36.640 --> 00:05:36.900 Okay. 00:05:37.060 --> 00:05:37.380 All right. 00:05:37.400 --> 00:05:37.860 Very go. 00:05:37.940 --> 00:05:38.320 Oh my gosh. 00:05:38.360 --> 00:05:40.980 You, the Oregon in the background where we're there. 00:05:41.260 --> 00:05:42.080 We're feeling this. 00:05:42.180 --> 00:05:43.200 Hey, tall, skinny Kiwi. 00:05:43.280 --> 00:05:43.760 Hey, everybody. 00:05:44.320 --> 00:05:50.580 We want to help your ministry in 25 and it's, it's, it's going to happen. 00:05:50.820 --> 00:05:56.300 Like if the church digital is not helping your ministry happen, it's not because we're not 00:05:56.300 --> 00:06:01.820 trying like engage with us, but there's 25 ways we're going to be able to, to, to get 00:06:01.820 --> 00:06:05.820 connected and to help your ministry take next steps in 2025. 00:06:06.400 --> 00:06:08.020 And so let's get into this. 00:06:08.200 --> 00:06:10.160 I'm going to, I'm going to fly through these. 00:06:10.280 --> 00:06:13.080 If you'd like something, you got questions, throw it in chat. 00:06:13.180 --> 00:06:14.400 We'll dig into it. 00:06:14.400 --> 00:06:15.220 Uh, but here we go. 00:06:15.640 --> 00:06:18.240 25 promises of, of TCD in 2025. 00:06:18.940 --> 00:06:24.240 Number one, more my, oh my gosh, the, the, the music just stopped right there. 00:06:24.260 --> 00:06:24.680 It's beautiful. 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:29.720 Number one, more mind blowing concepts from the TCD. 00:06:29.900 --> 00:06:34.520 Number one, more mind blowing concepts from the TCD team. 00:06:34.520 --> 00:06:37.680 I tell you what we, it's, it's so funny. 00:06:37.780 --> 00:06:40.920 People are like, Jeff, you must be so innovative. 00:06:41.040 --> 00:06:42.240 Jeff, how do you come up with these ideas? 00:06:42.380 --> 00:06:46.660 Jeff, how do, it ain't me people like, and this is not like humble brag. 00:06:46.880 --> 00:06:48.020 This is, this is legitimate. 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:56.280 I sit around and, uh, Barbara Carnero, Jason Morris, Andy Mage, Layton. 00:06:56.580 --> 00:06:58.700 Um, they come up with questions. 00:06:58.700 --> 00:06:59.760 They come up with ideas. 00:06:59.760 --> 00:07:01.440 They come up with challenging concepts. 00:07:01.960 --> 00:07:06.140 Um, I, I'm just a, the loud mouth jerk that like tries. 00:07:06.300 --> 00:07:06.740 Okay. 00:07:07.020 --> 00:07:08.860 I'll say that I'll be the rebel. 00:07:09.140 --> 00:07:09.380 Okay. 00:07:09.380 --> 00:07:14.720 Some of the stuff I say, like I want to, I want to own, um, you know, the, the, the church 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:15.900 is, is a coward. 00:07:16.220 --> 00:07:16.580 Okay. 00:07:16.640 --> 00:07:17.520 That was me. 00:07:17.520 --> 00:07:19.400 So if you're going to send the hate mail, send that to me. 00:07:19.540 --> 00:07:22.500 But a lot of this stuff, oh my gosh, it's coming from them. 00:07:22.500 --> 00:07:26.580 Um, platforms is places, JMO rolling that out. 00:07:26.580 --> 00:07:29.000 All the archetype stuff that Barbara talks about. 00:07:29.320 --> 00:07:35.140 If you've not, if you've not listened to Barbara talk about the archetypes and how the different 00:07:35.140 --> 00:07:41.100 types of people there are influences you and influences your ministry and, and, and, and 00:07:41.100 --> 00:07:47.360 your aim, niching, small niche casting, that's going to be my word for 25 is niche casting. 00:07:47.680 --> 00:07:48.620 Oh my gosh. 00:07:48.880 --> 00:07:50.500 So, so good. 00:07:50.600 --> 00:07:53.240 And so stay tuned for more mind blowing concepts. 00:07:53.320 --> 00:07:53.500 Okay. 00:07:53.500 --> 00:07:57.000 That was like, that was like the softball pitch. 00:07:57.120 --> 00:07:58.440 You know, that's, that's the easy one. 00:07:58.820 --> 00:08:00.220 Let's let, we're going to get into this. 00:08:00.220 --> 00:08:01.020 Hey, you know what? 00:08:01.080 --> 00:08:05.700 Number two, the second promise of TCD and 25, we're going to be hitting more connection 00:08:05.700 --> 00:08:06.700 points. 00:08:06.760 --> 00:08:06.960 Okay. 00:08:07.020 --> 00:08:10.780 So we're, we're, we, the church digital, we're, we're following the same framework that 00:08:10.780 --> 00:08:11.860 we challenge everybody else to. 00:08:11.860 --> 00:08:21.140 We're connecting with people at a, at a superficial level, blogs, podcasts, um, uh, YouTube streaming 00:08:21.140 --> 00:08:22.960 on, on YouTube conferences. 00:08:23.320 --> 00:08:28.560 Uh, we are connecting and building relationships, even in physical space where we're connecting 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:34.000 with people with the hopes of getting them into our community to build a relationship so 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:35.860 that we can encourage them to be a digital missionary. 00:08:36.020 --> 00:08:38.840 We're doing the same framework that we're telling you all to do. 00:08:38.920 --> 00:08:39.760 Shh, don't tell anybody. 00:08:40.120 --> 00:08:44.600 And for us, we want to connect with more people at, at, at a higher level. 00:08:44.680 --> 00:08:45.460 What does that look like? 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:49.380 We'll get into some of that here in a little bit, but I mean, just even the fact that we're 00:08:49.380 --> 00:08:52.820 in the countries that we are like, like there's an opportunity. 00:08:53.160 --> 00:08:55.680 What does the church digital look like in Espanol? 00:08:56.680 --> 00:09:04.500 Uh, in, uh, you know, Mandarin Chinese in, um, uh, insert language here, you know, what 00:09:04.500 --> 00:09:09.740 does the church, what's the Nigerian version of the church digital really look like? 00:09:10.160 --> 00:09:11.020 Oh, oh yes. 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:12.980 Uh, Sarah, Sarah's jumping in here. 00:09:13.100 --> 00:09:16.400 Barbara talking about archetypes is mind blowing. 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:18.200 It is so freaking good. 00:09:18.940 --> 00:09:19.780 And you know what? 00:09:19.840 --> 00:09:23.180 Even as we're, even as we've got this team together, we're trying to figure out how do 00:09:23.180 --> 00:09:26.680 we get the church digital in front of a new audience? 00:09:27.440 --> 00:09:33.560 You know, the, the, the, the U S based kind of, uh, digital missionary forward facing, like 00:09:33.560 --> 00:09:35.300 there's opera, there's opportunities there. 00:09:35.380 --> 00:09:38.700 Some of the stuff we're doing is great, but there's still stuff on the table. 00:09:38.920 --> 00:09:41.200 There's still opportunities outside of that. 00:09:41.220 --> 00:09:46.960 And so how do we connect with more people in do different ways digitally? 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:52.220 Number three, 25 ways the church digital is going to, the promises for the church digital 00:09:52.220 --> 00:09:54.060 that we're supporting your ministry. 00:09:54.340 --> 00:09:58.780 We're going to be creating new communities in 25 with new focus. 00:09:58.860 --> 00:10:00.680 Remember connect to community, right? 00:10:01.140 --> 00:10:02.180 Community right here. 00:10:02.600 --> 00:10:04.820 This is where the relationships in your church. 00:10:04.940 --> 00:10:08.340 This is where you're building relationships is where you're establishing trust in community 00:10:08.340 --> 00:10:12.220 is where you're seeing evangelism, digital evangelism, digital discipleship. 00:10:12.300 --> 00:10:16.000 You're seeing that function real well in that community context. 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:21.160 And so for us, we've got discord, love me some discord, WhatsApp. 00:10:21.640 --> 00:10:23.020 I love WhatsApp too. 00:10:23.140 --> 00:10:24.120 I never thought I'd say it. 00:10:24.180 --> 00:10:24.620 I do. 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:25.320 It was funny. 00:10:25.400 --> 00:10:30.560 We're even just talking about like my son is going to be getting a WhatsApp account. 00:10:30.700 --> 00:10:38.640 And so we are, um, we are a strong WhatsApp believer, but we are going to start to expand 00:10:38.640 --> 00:10:39.980 into new communities. 00:10:39.980 --> 00:10:47.120 That may be more platforms that may be more, uh, different focus of the communities, but 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:53.700 there's an opportunity to not stay where we are as much as to multiply and expand even 00:10:53.700 --> 00:10:57.980 to the point where we're like, we're, we're having serious conversations with like globally 00:10:57.980 --> 00:11:02.780 recognized organizations about coming alongside them and helping them build communities. 00:11:02.780 --> 00:11:07.580 And what, what would it look like for the church digital to help, um, other organizations 00:11:07.580 --> 00:11:10.120 understand how to utilize digital community. 00:11:10.300 --> 00:11:15.700 Like this is the focus of, of what we're trying to do with the church digital is get to this 00:11:15.700 --> 00:11:18.760 place of where we, one of the promises we're going to do. 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:23.840 Number three here is create new communities with a new focus. 00:11:24.220 --> 00:11:29.960 Number four, this one took a little bit to get through, but I think we got everybody lined 00:11:29.960 --> 00:11:30.240 up. 00:11:31.780 --> 00:11:36.140 We're going to do new formats for equipping digital missionaries. 00:11:36.140 --> 00:11:41.900 Now, now you all know this and it's interesting, Sarah and, and some of the, uh, the, uh, word 00:11:41.900 --> 00:11:44.040 revolution team, they, they don't even know about this. 00:11:44.040 --> 00:11:48.940 And so like, um, I, I, I, I kind of was like, I don't know that I don't want to like hurt 00:11:48.940 --> 00:11:53.300 anybody when I say this, by the way, seriously, on these 25 promises, a couple of these make 00:11:53.300 --> 00:11:54.920 it cut, uh, from the VOD. 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:59.020 So if you're watching it live, congratulations, you're going to see the unedited, the unfiltered 00:11:59.020 --> 00:11:59.460 version. 00:11:59.660 --> 00:12:02.580 If we get all the way through this thing and I don't have to make any cuts, I'm going to 00:12:02.580 --> 00:12:06.200 be surprised because a couple of these towards the end is going to be like, did he just say 00:12:06.200 --> 00:12:06.520 that? 00:12:06.860 --> 00:12:08.000 Yeah, he did just say that. 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:12.420 Number four, um, is we're going to come out with some new formats for EDM. 00:12:12.480 --> 00:12:15.140 Now we've got a, a, this is the inside scoop, baby. 00:12:15.220 --> 00:12:17.260 Like you come in, you listen, you get the raw stuff. 00:12:17.800 --> 00:12:20.120 Um, the 12 week cohort has been awesome. 00:12:20.280 --> 00:12:22.260 We're at, I think a week seven, week eight. 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:25.580 Uh, I'm meeting with my cohort in like three hours, uh, two hours. 00:12:25.580 --> 00:12:29.060 As a matter of fact, I'm going to take a break after the stream and then I'm, I'm teaching 00:12:29.060 --> 00:12:30.940 through, uh, with them now. 00:12:30.940 --> 00:12:35.020 And, and we're coming up and we're doing the cohorts for equipping digital missionaries 00:12:35.020 --> 00:12:39.440 right now, starting in the, uh, in January, later this month, late, we're going to be doing 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:39.980 Oceania. 00:12:40.200 --> 00:12:44.840 We're going to be doing Nigeria and, uh, I'll probably do, uh, one or two. 00:12:44.960 --> 00:12:49.340 I'm, uh, looking at just signups in the, in the U S if you're interested in the course, 00:12:49.340 --> 00:12:56.240 uh, in the cohorts, uh, the church.digital slash EDM, the church.digital slash EDM for 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:57.980 equipping digital missionaries. 00:12:58.120 --> 00:12:59.540 It's a great course now. 00:12:59.560 --> 00:13:01.780 And we'll get more into that here in a little bit. 00:13:01.900 --> 00:13:03.600 Now here's the deal. 00:13:03.760 --> 00:13:04.720 Here's what we've discovered. 00:13:05.180 --> 00:13:09.800 Uh, the way that we're doing the course, the, the cohort, the, the 12 week. 00:13:10.220 --> 00:13:17.940 Um, and I knew this, but I wanted to actually see somebody say something, uh, it, that does 00:13:17.940 --> 00:13:19.880 not work in all contexts. 00:13:19.880 --> 00:13:26.260 And, and as we started working with some of our, our Indian friends, um, in, um, Southeast 00:13:26.260 --> 00:13:29.640 Asia, we discovered that, Hey, you know what? 00:13:29.860 --> 00:13:36.440 Um, there, the orality of the culture doesn't work real well with, uh, the, uh, asynchronous 00:13:36.440 --> 00:13:39.520 methods we were using, uh, for the cohorts. 00:13:39.700 --> 00:13:43.800 And so they asked, can we come out with some other models? 00:13:44.900 --> 00:13:47.240 And so the answer is, well, of course. 00:13:47.840 --> 00:13:51.940 And so we're actually going to be offering a, this is an inside scoop. 00:13:51.960 --> 00:13:57.820 I told you we're going to be offering a coaching, um, type model where it's a couple of coaching 00:13:57.820 --> 00:13:59.800 sessions tied into the material. 00:13:59.900 --> 00:14:05.620 It's the same concepts, it's the same materials, but we're just making it available in different 00:14:05.620 --> 00:14:06.220 formats. 00:14:06.420 --> 00:14:12.400 Some people would rather break it down slowly and, and have like a, a group to process it 00:14:12.400 --> 00:14:12.620 in. 00:14:12.740 --> 00:14:18.100 Some would rather binge and process alone, but still be part of a larger community. 00:14:18.340 --> 00:14:23.240 And so in, in the end, at the end of the day, I, at least for me, I don't, I don't care, 00:14:23.240 --> 00:14:28.840 uh, as much as it is how, um, what you do with this information once it's done. 00:14:29.120 --> 00:14:30.680 Like I'll tell anybody, anything. 00:14:30.780 --> 00:14:35.260 I just, I just, I wouldn't know what they're doing after the fact, how it's impacting the 00:14:35.260 --> 00:14:35.580 kingdom. 00:14:35.900 --> 00:14:37.120 That's the thing that interests me. 00:14:37.140 --> 00:14:45.420 And so number four, we've got, um, new formats, uh, for EDM, uh, looking at the time here. 00:14:45.480 --> 00:14:47.020 Oh my gosh, it's going to be a long stream. 00:14:47.020 --> 00:14:48.900 Cause I, I, I can't, I can't shut up. 00:14:48.920 --> 00:14:49.340 I'm too worried. 00:14:49.360 --> 00:14:50.040 I'm too wordy. 00:14:50.580 --> 00:14:51.900 25 was, was interesting. 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:53.780 Number five, fifth of the way there. 00:14:55.120 --> 00:14:59.100 Another mic dropping woman here we're going to be doing, I think I may have said this publicly, 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:00.080 I, I don't know. 00:15:00.180 --> 00:15:03.220 I, I, I talk so much in so many different audiences. 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:04.840 I don't, I don't know who knows what, honestly. 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:06.020 So roll with me. 00:15:06.060 --> 00:15:11.160 If you've heard this before, number five, five promises for 2025, we will come out with new 00:15:11.160 --> 00:15:13.620 cohorts beyond equipping digital missionaries. 00:15:13.820 --> 00:15:22.100 There are things that, that we're talking about, um, that go beyond, um, just, uh, the equipping 00:15:22.100 --> 00:15:27.720 digital missionaries material and the cohort it is like, I, I love what EDM is. 00:15:27.720 --> 00:15:29.720 And, and to be honest, we're still building it out. 00:15:29.780 --> 00:15:36.440 I recorded one of my sessions this morning, uh, for week 10, but the, the place where we 00:15:36.440 --> 00:15:43.100 want to go with this thing is much more, in addition to what we're doing with EDM, we want 00:15:43.100 --> 00:15:47.700 to get to the place where we're, um, providing other learning opportunities. 00:15:48.140 --> 00:15:52.860 And that's, I, you know, honestly, like, I, I mean, I guess I'll say this. 00:15:53.300 --> 00:15:58.540 We're looking at like, um, what's happening with, uh, sharing Jesus online. 00:15:59.380 --> 00:16:05.060 Like the book was incredibly, uh, honestly, like unbeknownst to me, I wrote the thing 00:16:05.060 --> 00:16:09.520 and, you know, uh, organizations are running it, exponentials doing their thing with it. 00:16:09.580 --> 00:16:13.420 And, um, you know, I blinked, I did a, I did a Google search on it the other day. 00:16:13.420 --> 00:16:20.020 And like, you know, there's like, uh, sharing Jesus online, uh, reviews and like China walking 00:16:20.020 --> 00:16:25.040 through how to, to do this in, in, uh, in the Chinese environment and, and, uh, like the 00:16:25.040 --> 00:16:27.840 missional impact globally, there were, there were three or four countries. 00:16:27.960 --> 00:16:34.320 Philippines was one, um, where people are adapting the sharing Jesus online mentality into the 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:36.580 mission, uh, models globally. 00:16:37.020 --> 00:16:44.360 And it's starting to get me asking questions like, uh, can we do this more intentionally? 00:16:45.060 --> 00:16:47.120 And the funny thing is I love this. 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:53.060 Dr. John and I actually shot, this is the secret Dr. John and I actually, you know, he 00:16:53.060 --> 00:16:54.060 wrote the book with me changes. 00:16:54.220 --> 00:16:58.480 I'm like, we actually already shot the, the, the course, the cohort, the material. 00:16:58.860 --> 00:17:05.280 Um, we got in a video studio with Andy Mage like two years ago and shot the, the, the course 00:17:05.280 --> 00:17:11.440 and I got, I got sick and, and took a break and, and never honestly never compiled the thing 00:17:11.440 --> 00:17:18.640 together. And, and so, yeah, guess what? Number five, uh, we've got, uh, new cohorts that will be 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:26.160 rolling out in 2025 beyond just equipping digital missionaries. We want to help you all. And there's 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:31.100 probably some other things we're going to do too, because I'm just so driven. Listen, God told me 00:17:31.100 --> 00:17:37.720 help. And, and, and, you know, whether it's tangible, ethereal, what that looks like, we can get there, 00:17:37.720 --> 00:17:43.800 but dang it, you know, in 2025, the church digital is going to be helping people like you be a digital 00:17:43.800 --> 00:17:45.000 missionary. Number six, 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:53.040 outposts for everyone. This is the one that I'm spending the most time on. I love the team that I 00:17:53.040 --> 00:17:59.100 have with the church digital right now because of this. If I look at, um, the connection level, 00:17:59.640 --> 00:18:04.340 you know, the superficial, the, the content, getting eyes, building the audience level, 00:18:05.040 --> 00:18:10.020 Barbara and, and the word revolution team, some of them are watching this are doing an incredible job. 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:16.580 And if you get into community, Andy, it has built in his managing and maintaining 00:18:16.580 --> 00:18:22.740 two incredible communities, which by the way, volunteers are diving in and resourcing and, 00:18:22.740 --> 00:18:26.820 and, and owning that as well. And it's, and it's beautiful. Actually just had a meeting with 00:18:26.820 --> 00:18:32.720 white beard who's coming back and it's going to get more involved in, um, the discord community, 00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:37.260 uh, it's coming up and, and it dude's getting married like into the month. And anyway, it's just 00:18:37.260 --> 00:18:41.820 really as exciting. Some of the stuff that's coming on when you get to equipping Jamo's built this 00:18:41.820 --> 00:18:47.980 into like, I have finally, I have finally gotten to the place where we can build the bottom of the 00:18:47.980 --> 00:18:51.240 funnel. Okay, Barbara, it's not a funnel. I understand, but the bottom of the funnel, 00:18:52.440 --> 00:19:01.780 what's an outpost and, and, and how can that help you in your ministry? What we're trying to do in, 00:19:01.780 --> 00:19:10.180 in 30 seconds too late is create regional networks, relational networks, decentralized networks that 00:19:10.180 --> 00:19:17.180 connect you with people that are in a similar missional context with you. Maybe they're on the 00:19:17.180 --> 00:19:22.980 same platform as you, maybe they're reaching the same geographical area as you and give you the 00:19:22.980 --> 00:19:28.900 opportunity to, uh, be encouraged in ministry, to explore new ideas, to experiment with new 00:19:28.900 --> 00:19:35.160 techniques and to be empowered in the ministry that you're already doing while being learned, while 00:19:35.160 --> 00:19:42.180 learning on, on how to do it better. Like this is the, this is the accountability that we want to 00:19:42.180 --> 00:19:50.440 create at a much smaller level as the church digital gets bigger and, and Lord, please let this get 00:19:50.440 --> 00:19:58.020 bigger. We want to create opportunities for it to be much smaller and the smaller, the intimate, the 00:19:58.020 --> 00:20:02.960 accountability, the hands-on that's coming through the outpost. And so, you know, and that's that 00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:09.600 mobilization piece. That's the bottom, uh, community, uh, connect community, equip, mobilize. We finally got 00:20:09.600 --> 00:20:16.500 there. And so we are building that model out right now. Uh, and, and, and, uh, here's the secret. You 00:20:16.500 --> 00:20:20.300 want to get that relational network. You want to give, be a part of this. And we're going to talk about 00:20:20.300 --> 00:20:25.000 them. You want, you want all the benefits of what comes with the outpost. And there are a lot 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:30.100 you want to, you want to, you want to go through equipping digital missionaries. You want to get 00:20:30.100 --> 00:20:36.960 to the relational networks. EDM is, is the, is the front door to get into that. Uh, flat cap knows 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:44.600 he's been with us. You get in an outpost, you get, uh, an outpost. Uh, yeah, I, I, I feel like I, 00:20:44.600 --> 00:20:50.580 I almost had the, um, uh, Oprah, uh, meme. You get an outpost, you get an outpost, you like everybody, 00:20:50.580 --> 00:20:55.040 everybody gets a outpost. Like, could you imagine like being in that where it's like, 00:20:55.060 --> 00:20:58.840 you get a car, you get a car and everybody gets a car. I want to, I want to, I want to be in that 00:20:58.840 --> 00:21:05.620 one. Number seven, I've been talking serious. Let's dial it back here a little bit. All right. 00:21:06.320 --> 00:21:13.340 I, um, I have, I have a conviction in my life. Are you ready for this? Number seven, number seven, 00:21:13.420 --> 00:21:17.720 seven promise, the seventh promise for the church digital in 2025. I worked too hard. 00:21:18.840 --> 00:21:22.780 People are like, Jeff, you work too hard. And you're like, you know what? I agree. 00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:27.480 I agree with you wholeheartedly. Uh, and so we're going to have some fun. 00:21:28.380 --> 00:21:31.780 I'm going to do a new thing late. And I don't even think, you know, about this. I'm glad you're in 00:21:31.780 --> 00:21:40.140 here. Uh, I'm doing game time. I'm, I'm going to jump on YouTube and I'm going to, I'm going to 00:21:40.140 --> 00:21:44.540 stream some online games and I want y'all to, to come hang out with me. I'll just give you an example. 00:21:45.120 --> 00:21:52.020 Like I started over Christmas. I got, I was picking my daughter up at there. She had like a Christmas 00:21:52.020 --> 00:21:56.200 party right before Christmas at her friend's house. And there were mutual friends with the family. 00:21:56.680 --> 00:22:03.600 And so I walked in the house and there were like 25 people. And I hate, I just, I hate large 00:22:03.600 --> 00:22:07.960 gatherings and physical space. And 25 was a large gathering. And so I'm like the awkward wallflower. 00:22:08.180 --> 00:22:13.060 And it's, it's a, it's a Hispanic family and everybody's talking Espanol. And I, um, I'm like 00:22:13.060 --> 00:22:21.660 the, the source, um, in the, in the room. And they invited me over because they're playing. Oh my 00:22:21.660 --> 00:22:26.640 gosh, I forgot the name of the game, but they're playing Jackbox games. Jack, Jack in the box is old 00:22:26.640 --> 00:22:32.700 computer company from like 20, 30, 40 years ago when I was a kid. And it's evolved into Jackbox. 00:22:32.700 --> 00:22:38.160 And they were playing Quibbage, something like that. And, uh, it's, you know, the game where you're, 00:22:38.240 --> 00:22:43.560 it's, it's just, it was, uh, it was a Apple TV game. It was on PS5 as well, but you, you were like 00:22:43.560 --> 00:22:48.660 using your phone to interact and it was so good. It was so cool. It was so much fun. And it was such a, 00:22:48.660 --> 00:22:56.420 a relaxing thing just to let go, have fun. And, um, we're going to do that through the church digital. 00:22:56.420 --> 00:23:00.920 I'm literally, we're going to, I'm working on the tech now. We'll have it set up by this Friday, 00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:06.520 but this Friday, we are going to do game time with Jeff. We're going to be hanging out here 00:23:06.520 --> 00:23:12.200 on YouTube, on the YouTube channel, playing the game. And so you want to jump on screen with me, 00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:17.240 I'll give you access to do that. You want to, uh, play and chat and, uh, you're interacting 00:23:17.240 --> 00:23:23.840 with the phone, uh, your iPhone or, you know, smartphones or web browsers or, or whatever connect with 00:23:23.840 --> 00:23:28.560 us from across the board, but you want to relax and have some fun with us. Do it. We want to hang 00:23:28.560 --> 00:23:37.220 out with you and we'd have some fun. So game time with Jeff is, uh, 1130 AM Eastern, 1130 AM Eastern. 00:23:37.340 --> 00:23:43.520 What is that? 830 AM Pacific. God bless the, uh, the California crowd. You get to wake up to me 00:23:43.520 --> 00:23:48.140 first thing in the morning, grab some coffee and, uh, grab some coffee as I've got my yellow, 00:23:48.260 --> 00:23:53.820 the church digital mug. I suddenly realized I'm not wearing a hat. That's weird. 00:23:53.840 --> 00:24:00.800 I should do that. Okay. Number eight, the eighth promise. We're going to, number seven is we're 00:24:00.800 --> 00:24:05.800 going to have more fun. Number six is more relational connections and outposts. Number eight, 00:24:06.360 --> 00:24:15.560 more streams, more resourcing, more voices than Jeff. I, I love the church digital. I love hanging 00:24:15.560 --> 00:24:22.740 out with you all. And, and, and, and I love getting to do stuff like this. Um, but I kind 00:24:22.740 --> 00:24:28.500 of liked the fact that we get to learn from others too. And so we're going to be introducing 00:24:28.500 --> 00:24:35.840 more voices on the stream. Uh, and, um, that's going to be a really, really cool thing. So here's 00:24:35.840 --> 00:24:44.680 the thing you need to know is we are working really hard, uh, to on communication because 00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:48.020 as we're doing more and more things, I know we're not, we're not communicating that well. 00:24:48.860 --> 00:24:56.900 Check out, um, check out this webpage, the church.digital slash calendar, the church.digital 00:24:56.900 --> 00:25:03.500 slash calendar. That's going to have all of the, um, the events, the streams, all of that, 00:25:03.500 --> 00:25:11.240 that's coming up. And so that is a great place to, uh, to connect and, and to learn about what's 00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:16.220 coming up and to find that it'll adapt to time zones and it, and it's all good. Tall Skinny Kiwi, 00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:22.640 uh, my friend in New Zealand, who's having a great Wednesday on this Tuesday. Uh, oh, what streams 00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:29.320 may come. Nice, nice, nice play there. Uh, play on words. I appreciate that. Uh, we've got another 00:25:29.320 --> 00:25:36.080 one coming in. Um, I'm not even going to try to attempt that. Uh, I'm the Finnish guy from 00:25:36.080 --> 00:25:41.920 Discord. Yes, sir. Hey, good morning to you. Finnish, uh, Finland is, it's probably what, 00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:47.820 six, seven hours away. So it's not quite morning time, but, uh, have, have a great Tuesday evening. 00:25:47.980 --> 00:25:53.540 Thanks for jumping on and hanging out with us on the stream. Love that. You know what? I mean, 00:25:53.540 --> 00:26:00.940 we've got three continents at least represented on the stream. This is my point. I can talk digital 00:26:00.940 --> 00:26:04.900 ministry till I'm, I'm blue in the face and Lord knows I've been talking digital ministry for 00:26:04.900 --> 00:26:13.980 25 years at this point. Uh, literally, and that's not a joke. Um, and so I can, I can keep going, 00:26:13.980 --> 00:26:19.640 but I kind of like, I want to hear what Simon Dirks has to say. And I kind of want to hear what 00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:26.080 Yatope has to say. And, and I love sitting in a room with tall skinny Kiwi, uh, and, and letting 00:26:26.080 --> 00:26:33.220 him spout stories, uh, because dude's got more historic, historical context than I do. Um, I think 00:26:33.220 --> 00:26:38.660 he was, I don't know how it's possible, but somehow tall skinny Kiwi was doing digital ministry before 00:26:38.660 --> 00:26:44.460 the internet even existed. Uh, he, he was, he was on the, on the front lines of that thing. And so, 00:26:44.460 --> 00:26:50.320 and I would put, Oh my gosh, I had an open office with tall skinny Kiwi and white beard. Um, and it 00:26:50.320 --> 00:26:57.000 was, it kind of felt like, um, you know, the old guy get off my lawn type of thing. The three of us 00:26:57.000 --> 00:27:00.940 together, it was, it really was a surreal moment. Like it just was really cool. The three of us 00:27:00.940 --> 00:27:05.680 together, but that's the thing. It's like, I want, I want to create those types of, of conversations. 00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:10.300 And so you're going to hear more voices, uh, on the church digital stream and more blogs, 00:27:10.300 --> 00:27:17.220 like working in the blogs. Uh, and then number nine, really the thing that I love is more open 00:27:17.220 --> 00:27:25.080 offices. Uh, you know, I have met so many people through the church digital that are coming in 00:27:25.080 --> 00:27:33.060 and, and really, Hey, I, uh, I connected with you here. I, I, I, I found you on Google. I did things 00:27:33.060 --> 00:27:38.720 and being able to jump on a Google meet and have a one-on-one a conversation and then get to 00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:45.860 introduce them to, you know, Stacy or, or Melanie or, or Trizzle or some of the other people that 00:27:45.860 --> 00:27:49.340 have been hanging out. I mean, to be honest, like Trizzle, that was the relationship that I've, 00:27:49.340 --> 00:27:54.100 I built with Trizzle was through the open offices. He kept showing up in some of these open offices 00:27:54.100 --> 00:27:59.880 and talking and building relationships. And we're able to get them connected into EDM, uh, through, 00:28:00.020 --> 00:28:07.200 uh, for Simon in Europe, Simon Dirks. And, and like, it's, it's very cool to see how this, um, 00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:10.800 this comes together, but how through the open office is the way to do that. 00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:14.620 And so we're going to have more voices than just me leading these open offices. 00:28:16.420 --> 00:28:22.080 Um, you know, flat cap is already doing these, uh, he's doing open offices with me and I appreciate 00:28:22.080 --> 00:28:26.940 him for doing that. Uh, leadership doesn't know this. Hey, sorry, I'm going to challenge you. 00:28:27.220 --> 00:28:33.200 Uh, open, uh, we're going to ask the leadership to do open offices. And so they're going to be doing 00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:39.440 that. Uh, we're going to ask the movement leaders, the, the outpost leaders, the, the, uh, central 00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:44.540 support team. We're going to be asking them to do open offices. And so there's going to be chances 00:28:44.540 --> 00:28:49.900 to do a deep dive on different topics. And once again, all that's going to be scheduled and 00:28:49.900 --> 00:28:55.220 communicated, uh, through the communities, through discord, through WhatsApp and through the TCD 00:28:55.220 --> 00:29:04.220 website at the church.digital slash calendar. Hey, if you're watching on the fringe, um, if 00:29:04.220 --> 00:29:11.060 you're, uh, um, you know, um, an outsider, not really connecting and engaging, if you're watching 00:29:11.060 --> 00:29:16.760 us on, if you're reading blogs and podcasts, watching the stream, but you're not in the 00:29:16.760 --> 00:29:25.480 community, get in the community, come in, be a part of something bigger, um, and, and get 00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:32.260 relationally connected with us here. By the way, um, I have a, I have a, uh, uh, uh, stalker. 00:29:32.260 --> 00:29:38.760 I have, uh, what's the word I'm looking for? Identity theft. Uh, somebody on discord, I, let 00:29:38.760 --> 00:29:43.560 me, I just need to disclaim this right now. Somebody on discord is, is spoofing my identity. 00:29:43.560 --> 00:29:49.940 They're using my same ID photo and, uh, they have, uh, it's my name. Uh, my, my name on 00:29:49.940 --> 00:29:55.120 discord is deer fedge. It's Jeffrey backwards D E R F F E J. And so they're using that same 00:29:55.120 --> 00:29:59.460 name, but they put a period at the end to make it different. And they're, they're going 00:29:59.460 --> 00:30:06.660 up to, uh, you know, digital missionaries being pastoral in voice and like encouraging 00:30:06.660 --> 00:30:12.620 them, supporting them. But then the ultimate goal is the guys trying to get these digital 00:30:12.620 --> 00:30:21.760 missionaries to, um, like go into whatever the spiel is like the, um, um, you know, buy, 00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:30.940 invest in their, their blockchain or just crypto thing. And so if, if somebody, if somebody asks 00:30:30.940 --> 00:30:40.380 you to contribute into their crypto with my face, it's not me, um, rest assured. If somebody 00:30:40.380 --> 00:30:45.440 says that, you know, we want you to own the church digital partner with us at the church.digital 00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:52.440 slash partner and contribute investing in us, uh, contributing to us regularly. Um, that's 00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:58.860 me. That's a legitimate ask from the church digital. But if somebody wants you to invest 00:30:58.860 --> 00:31:03.860 in a blockchain, um, that's, that's not me. Uh, if there's any questions, feel free to hit 00:31:03.860 --> 00:31:08.840 me up directly, but just know, Hey, you know, and it's funny. Andy mage was like, congratulations, 00:31:08.840 --> 00:31:12.840 Jeff. You've got a, you've got somebody, you know, stole your identity and running with you 00:31:12.840 --> 00:31:22.920 directly on discord. I made it y'all mom. Aren't you proud? So, so good. Um, yeah, it's, 00:31:23.020 --> 00:31:28.680 uh, this is so good. Uh, it's, it's a mini, it's a mini deer fetch. You know what? I'm going 00:31:28.680 --> 00:31:33.300 to like in all seriousness here, just take a moment. This is going to be the longest stream 00:31:33.300 --> 00:31:38.040 I've ever done. There is no chance I'm going to get through 25 of these. And what am I on? 00:31:38.040 --> 00:31:42.660 I'm number, number nine and I've been going a half hour. I, well, okay. It's not going 00:31:42.660 --> 00:31:46.980 to be my longest stream. I did a 12 hour stream. I can do it in 12 hours, by the way. We'll get 00:31:46.980 --> 00:31:51.900 actually, we're going to get to what's, what's next on that one here soon. Um, here's the inside 00:31:51.900 --> 00:32:01.960 scoop. If the guy actually like part of me is a little proud. I've got somebody, I mean, 00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:05.560 yeah, the guy's an idiot. I'm assuming it's a guy. It could be a girl. I, whatever. Like this 00:32:05.560 --> 00:32:12.100 is, I'm not making any assumptions, but I have somebody that's being pastoral and missional 00:32:12.100 --> 00:32:18.640 to people in need and using it as a con to get in, to get them in to invest. Okay. But 00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:27.500 the guy is actually smart enough to recognize the opportunity to, uh, mentally and emotionally 00:32:27.500 --> 00:32:33.440 care for others and use it as a con. So yeah, it's a con, but at least he was smart enough 00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:38.940 to like be intelligent about how he's reaching people. That's what I'm like, you know what? 00:32:38.940 --> 00:32:43.940 I've got a unintentionally, I've got it like an apprentice happening here. Like this is a 00:32:43.940 --> 00:32:49.380 legitimate thing that that's come up as a result of this. Like there, there, there's a mini deer 00:32:49.380 --> 00:32:55.060 fedge coming from this and yeah. Okay. Maybe it's terrible. I do. I, I agree with you. That 00:32:55.060 --> 00:33:00.440 that is terrible, but, um, yeah, there's worse things I've had. I've had worse things happen 00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:06.220 to me than this guy, uh, is trying to, to get into that. All right, let's get into number 00:33:06.220 --> 00:33:13.360 10, 30 minutes in. We are at 10 of 25. What is that? 40% of the way done 10 promises in 00:33:13.360 --> 00:33:21.760 2025, 10 TCD promises of 2025, 10 ways that we are going to the 10th way. We're going to help, 00:33:21.760 --> 00:33:27.000 uh, your ministry. Number nine, resourcing open offices. We're going to be available for you 00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:33.820 to have, uh, uh, conversations directly. Uh, and the good thing is we've got so many different 00:33:33.820 --> 00:33:38.960 contexts and, um, specialists in this area through the church digital. We're going to be accessible 00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:45.620 for y'all. Number 10, that was just a recap of number nine, number 10. Uh, what's the span 00:33:45.620 --> 00:33:52.020 of care for a digital missionary? This has been the, to be honest, I've spent more time on this 00:33:52.020 --> 00:33:58.560 one over the past month and a half than probably any other thing I'm going to talk about. Um, 00:33:58.940 --> 00:34:06.300 I, and this is the one, honestly, I'm the most excited about span of care. Uh, we've got people 00:34:06.300 --> 00:34:12.040 that are, uh, I'll, I'm just going to, I'm going to tell it a different way. I've talked with two or 00:34:12.040 --> 00:34:16.280 three digital missionaries that, that have been on the ropes. So over the past years that have been 00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:24.560 doing ministry, um, hardcore ministry, uh, without a support stream up front. And I, I'll just be 00:34:24.560 --> 00:34:33.640 honest. Um, I like made them cry, uh, very quickly talking about coming alongside them and providing, 00:34:33.640 --> 00:34:41.200 uh, emotional, mental, and spiritual support, uh, through the church digital. Like it is an exhausting, 00:34:41.200 --> 00:34:46.440 and it's just, I don't, I don't want to sugarcoat this. Digital ministry is an exhausting 00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:55.220 attempt. A digital mission work is not easy. Uh, it is, it is rife with distraction. It's rife with 00:34:55.220 --> 00:35:06.720 uh, spiritual warfare. Who is walking with you on this journey? This is a lot of what we talk about 00:35:06.720 --> 00:35:13.400 inside EDM and there's stuff in EDM in some of the sessions that, that I've not said publicly talking 00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:22.860 about this. And so we want to make sure that our missionaries are cared for and that the people that 00:35:22.860 --> 00:35:31.720 are connected to our network are cared for. And the ways that we get you into that, uh, is through the 00:35:31.720 --> 00:35:38.780 outposts where you can provide mental check-ins, uh, uh, quarterly check-ins to check your emotional, 00:35:39.020 --> 00:35:46.060 mental, and spiritual health, where we can provide, um, uh, a community of, of support asynchronously 00:35:46.060 --> 00:35:51.780 get you into these outposts where there's, uh, regular, uh, opportunities and relationships that 00:35:51.780 --> 00:35:59.080 you're able to dialogue in together. Like we're really investing in, in the emotional support that 00:35:59.080 --> 00:36:06.500 is needed to have a, a, a missionary go the distance in digital space. And we need your help 00:36:06.500 --> 00:36:13.800 to get there because we want you to honestly guinea pig for us and help us figure out how to be best 00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:19.140 effective towards that. I mean, like the stuff you're doing, I've, I've been saying this a lot lately. 00:36:19.140 --> 00:36:23.840 I'm going to say it later. Like we want to help this generation of, of digital missionaries and 00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:28.680 digital churches. We need, we need this generation to succeed for the next one. And so the better you 00:36:28.680 --> 00:36:34.380 can be, the more helpful, uh, we can be for you, the more helpful we're going to be for the next 00:36:34.380 --> 00:36:41.080 generation coming up as you succeed. So will my kids, and I want my kids to succeed. So what do you 00:36:41.080 --> 00:36:46.900 need? Let's, let's get into that. Number 11. Uh, oh, by the way, tall, skinny, kiwi distraction. 00:36:47.500 --> 00:36:55.280 25 is a lot of promises for 2025. I'm glad it's not 2099. You and me both. I was actually thinking 00:36:55.280 --> 00:37:01.360 about that. I didn't have my lunch today. It's right here. And, uh, as I was not eating my lunch, 00:37:01.380 --> 00:37:05.220 but I was preparing it, I had to thought, wow, I'm really glad it wasn't like 2000, 00:37:05.900 --> 00:37:11.800 2000 promises through the church digital. All right. Uh, where am I at number 11 financial 00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:19.080 support? No, I'm not writing checks. Sorry. I really do. Uh, but we have a, I really do want 00:37:19.080 --> 00:37:24.540 to, I really, really do. Uh, we're not a bank. I wish, I wish we were a bank. Um, but you know 00:37:24.540 --> 00:37:29.880 what? If you invest in my, in my Ponzi scheme that is taking crypto, we can get you connected 00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:36.000 into, no, I'm kidding. Somebody's going to clip that and turn, make it viral. Um, financial support. 00:37:36.080 --> 00:37:41.360 We have met an incredible ministry partner, white beard. I'm sorry. What flat cap is going through it 00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:46.280 now. I'm trying to think who else is on here. I don't think anybody else here is, but, um, some 00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:51.540 others are talking through it, but we've, we're started working with reliant and what reliant is, 00:37:51.540 --> 00:37:58.520 is reliant is, uh, is, uh, helps missionaries fundraise. Like, uh, you can, can raise money 00:37:58.520 --> 00:38:04.440 through reliant and reliant, um, you know, cuts the check and, and pays the money through and they, 00:38:04.500 --> 00:38:10.440 they do fundraiser training, uh, towards that. And so, and the idea of, you know, churches, there's 00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:15.740 organizational fundraising and that's a, that's a much more complicated thing for a, a, uh, an 00:38:15.740 --> 00:38:22.480 organization to do it. But for an individual that's interested in being part of that, uh, we'll work 00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:28.680 through us and reliant to get to the place of, of where you can, can fundraise. Like I said, you 00:38:28.680 --> 00:38:32.840 know, I know flat cap is, is doing that right now where he's, he's going through the training 00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:37.460 and through a relationship with reliant. He's the work that he's doing through the church digital, 00:38:37.460 --> 00:38:42.500 um, where he's actually going to fundraise through the church digital and reliant to, to help him 00:38:42.500 --> 00:38:48.160 get the money he needs to, uh, to do that. And so flat caps already pushing, Hey, you know what, 00:38:48.160 --> 00:38:54.800 if you've got questions on, on, on reliant, go ahead and hit him up and you can do that at, um, uh, 00:38:54.800 --> 00:39:00.480 you know, the WhatsApp and the, and the discord. He's easily accessible for that to ask him about that. 00:39:00.700 --> 00:39:07.820 But once again, like to be able to network through, to get to, to, to reliant, like get 00:39:07.820 --> 00:39:14.680 through EDM. And so if you're not in EDM yet, equipping digital missionaries, the church.digital 00:39:14.680 --> 00:39:22.360 slash EDM, let's get you in there. The church.digital slash EDM. And, and one of the benefits 00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:27.360 of, of going through EDM and being part of the, the, the span of care on the flip side 00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:31.100 is where we get into, uh, the reliant piece. Number 12. 00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:41.020 Talking about care on the flip side, number 12, ongoing and growing support from missional 00:39:41.020 --> 00:39:47.780 partners and TCD volunteers. I, um, we're actually, I was, I was meeting with Kathy Tate, Kathy, 00:39:47.900 --> 00:39:52.880 sorry, Kate Tate, Kathy Nazier. It used to be her name was Kathy Tate. Kathy Tate. When I first met 00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:58.060 her, she got married and, uh, I got married a long time ago, but you know, it's, it's still Kathy 00:39:58.060 --> 00:40:03.740 Tate in my head, Kathy Nazier. And, uh, she's one of our project managers working with us here at the 00:40:03.740 --> 00:40:11.120 church digital. And yesterday I gave her the project. I was like, we are updating, um, the website of 00:40:11.120 --> 00:40:15.740 we're all going to list all the partners that we're working with. And she's like, well, how many? So I 00:40:15.740 --> 00:40:20.640 know how to structure. And I pulled up a Google slide from a slide deck that I'm working on and it, 00:40:20.640 --> 00:40:26.100 and it listed in like, okay, to have it fit all in one slide. I had to, I had to like make it like 00:40:26.100 --> 00:40:30.960 size six or seven font. It's really small, but it's like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, 00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:37.060 all the way down. It's like a ton of names, man. The, the organizations that, that we're working 00:40:37.060 --> 00:40:43.240 with right now, trying to figure out how to best support you from a, from spiritual direction, 00:40:43.540 --> 00:40:51.020 soul care, from, um, you know, mental, emotional health, from, from, from a spiritual level, from a 00:40:51.020 --> 00:40:58.260 financial, from an organizational, like we're, we are trying to rack our brains about how best to 00:40:58.260 --> 00:41:03.120 support, you know, what we're doing with Reliant. That's just the one that's already signed on. And 00:41:03.120 --> 00:41:07.400 like, that was the easy one to go through. There's others that we're still, we're still trying to 00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:13.500 figure out everything, but like, we are investing so much time in helping those that are part of the 00:41:13.500 --> 00:41:18.800 network that go through EDM that are part of our outposts. We want to see, we want to see all of 00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:25.560 you all succeed, but the, the sweetness comes once you go through EDM, once you go through EDM, it's like, 00:41:25.640 --> 00:41:31.720 Hey, you're, you're family that you're in, you're in the inner circle. Um, and so I just, 00:41:31.720 --> 00:41:37.580 I can't keep beating that drum, man. EDM is so crucial to getting you into the access to be 00:41:37.580 --> 00:41:43.160 able to have access into these things. Number 13. Okay. Some of you are probably saying, Jeff, 00:41:43.820 --> 00:41:51.520 why do you love EDM so much? Like, do, do you only like, you do not care for anybody else? 00:41:52.640 --> 00:41:57.960 I mean, I do. I don't, I don't like that. I want to see everybody succeed. And, and remember 00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:04.500 as everyone succeeds, so will the next generation. And so we need to not just be concerned with the 00:42:04.500 --> 00:42:09.820 people who are loyal enough to go through EDM, but we also want to help those that maybe aren't exposed 00:42:09.820 --> 00:42:18.380 to that. Um, and so one of the things we're doing right now, number 13, 13, um, uh, I started to say 00:42:18.380 --> 00:42:25.200 prayer request, 13 promises is tangible resourcing. We want to start helping churches and organizations 00:42:25.200 --> 00:42:30.940 outside the network too. Now, remember, this is the, this is the, Hey, you're getting the early scoop 00:42:30.940 --> 00:42:35.800 here. Not everybody knows about this. And I don't know how much we're actually going to talk about 00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:41.420 this publicly, but dang it. Why not? You know? Um, and this is actual, if you, if you, Layton's 00:42:41.420 --> 00:42:46.700 flat cap, uh, flat caps, actually, I changed this, I changed his job title somewhere around Christmas, 00:42:46.700 --> 00:42:52.580 like the week, a week of Christmas. Um, I was like, Hey, Hey, Hey, Layton, um, you're going to do this 00:42:52.580 --> 00:42:56.820 instead. And it's going to be awesome. And God bless Layton. Layton's like, I'm excited. Let's go. 00:42:56.920 --> 00:43:02.260 You know, it's just, you know, diving in full steam ahead, uh, like Layton does. Um, but it's this 00:43:02.260 --> 00:43:09.340 idea of tangibly resourcing. Layton's a great relationships guy. You know, I, I, I, you know, am, 00:43:09.500 --> 00:43:15.460 I've always enjoyed the, have you met Ted type of thing. And Layton is, uh, is, was always good at 00:43:15.460 --> 00:43:23.060 playing that playbook at connecting people together. Um, but I want to just not be a connector. 00:43:23.660 --> 00:43:31.640 I want, I want the church digital to, to be tangibly resourcing and helping, you know, pastor Coco, 00:43:31.640 --> 00:43:39.420 um, pastor Coco's, uh, conversation with me on YouTube where she talked about, uh, 00:43:39.420 --> 00:43:45.360 on giving Tuesday, um, where she talked about some of the struggles she's facing in VR MMO. 00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:56.020 Um, that was a game changer for me and, and, uh, the hardness of what's happening in this space 00:43:56.020 --> 00:44:03.820 as others succeed. So will the next generation as we succeed. So will the next generation. And so we 00:44:03.820 --> 00:44:10.320 need to figure out how to get the pastor Coco's, how to get the final fantasies, how to get the 00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:15.640 virtual realities. We need to figure out how to get these churches to succeed. And so we're wanting 00:44:15.640 --> 00:44:24.080 to step in and, and, and help in that space. If you're struggling, come see us. We need you. 00:44:24.080 --> 00:44:32.240 The church needs you. The world needs you. God's called you to do something and we're just here to 00:44:32.240 --> 00:44:41.760 help. Number 14. How am I doing time-wise? 45 and about halfway through. All right. We're going for 00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:48.220 a 90 minute stream here. Extra. What did they call this? Uh, overtime is, is free football. Uh, 00:44:48.220 --> 00:44:53.040 cause you didn't pay for it. Extra innings, overtime. We're going overtime here, uh, with, uh, the church 00:44:53.040 --> 00:45:02.380 digital stream. 14, 25 promises, TCD promises for you and 25. Um, so we are going to be wrestling a lot 00:45:02.380 --> 00:45:09.360 with contextualization. And number 14, I'm promising you that we're going to be wrestling a lot with the 00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:15.520 contextualizations that we interact with physically in place. You've heard Jason, you've heard I talk 00:45:15.520 --> 00:45:21.820 about platforms as places. Well, there, there is contextualization in the place aspect because, 00:45:21.820 --> 00:45:26.720 you know, how, how you're doing digital ministry to connect with somebody in Germany is going to be 00:45:26.720 --> 00:45:30.640 different than how you're doing digital ministry to connect to somebody in Nigeria. And how are you 00:45:30.640 --> 00:45:35.500 doing digital ministry to connect to somebody in, I don't know, the middle East, just to name a couple 00:45:35.500 --> 00:45:39.980 spots versus, you know, how you're reaching somebody in America. By the way, even in America, 00:45:39.980 --> 00:45:44.720 there's, there's generalizations East coast versus West coast, uh, East coast, best coast. Sorry. 00:45:44.720 --> 00:45:50.140 I know Stacey West coast, best coast, um, or, you know, even upper economy, lower economy, 00:45:50.140 --> 00:45:55.180 like, um, you know, race comes into play in America. Like there's so many different ways to 00:45:55.180 --> 00:46:05.100 contextualize that we're doing research right now to help better understand the, the physical 00:46:05.100 --> 00:46:12.620 contextualizations that we're facing. And, and we want to, honestly, we want to document that. 00:46:12.820 --> 00:46:15.960 Like, it's funny. I joke about what my next book is going to be through the church digital. 00:46:18.240 --> 00:46:22.180 It's going to have something to do with that. The contextualization bit at the place level. 00:46:23.380 --> 00:46:28.840 And let me get to number 15 real quick. Contextualizations at the platform level too. 00:46:29.140 --> 00:46:33.860 Cause remember I said, platforms is places. Platforms are the new places. We need to validate 00:46:33.860 --> 00:46:38.060 what the places are and how the places are operating digitally. But really in digital ministry, 00:46:38.060 --> 00:46:44.040 it's not about the places, it's not about the platforms. Like the, the culture that is brought 00:46:44.040 --> 00:46:51.760 in from an outsider into the digital platform is stronger than the culture that exists within the 00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:57.840 physical space. When doing digital ministry, the culture that exists digitally when you're in the 00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:02.320 digital environment is stronger than what is existing in the physical environment. 00:47:04.240 --> 00:47:12.900 Think about that. You can add me, don't add me. You can add Jason Morris in discord and in WhatsApp, 00:47:13.100 --> 00:47:17.520 and he would love to have that conversation with you. All right. So here we are. Number 15, 00:47:17.600 --> 00:47:23.840 14 and 15 was contextualizations. We're really going to be doing a deep dive into this 15, 00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:31.180 14 and 15 was platforms and places contextualization. Now here's the deal. 16 and 17. This is the one, 00:47:31.260 --> 00:47:37.420 these are the two. This is what's going to get me fired. Do you hear me? This is it. 00:47:38.380 --> 00:47:40.860 This is the one that you're going to hear a quick cut. 00:47:44.140 --> 00:47:47.800 And then I'm going to talk about something completely irrelevant because what I'm about 00:47:47.800 --> 00:47:52.100 to tell you is going to get cut out entirely. I can get, I'm going to get in trouble for this. 00:47:52.640 --> 00:47:55.220 You ready? Number 16, 00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:01.260 the church digital is going to do an online conference in spring of 2025. 00:48:02.520 --> 00:48:07.180 You know, we've been talking about, you know, our friends at exponential and I love exponential. 00:48:07.940 --> 00:48:12.120 Mark is, is working, Mark Lutz and, and Andy actually is talking with Andy earlier today about 00:48:12.120 --> 00:48:18.440 this. They're working with exponential and doing, um, uh, the conference at, at the exponentials at 00:48:18.440 --> 00:48:23.980 Orlando and some of the other regions and excited about, about what they're doing and, and doing the, 00:48:23.980 --> 00:48:29.260 the physical connections there. And it's necessary. It's needed in that space. Excited to see that 00:48:29.260 --> 00:48:36.800 happen. When you look at the scope of what the church digital is, we really, 00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:45.780 we've really outgrown physicality. Like at one point, maybe one day we'll do a physical thing and try to get 00:48:45.780 --> 00:48:53.480 everybody together. But I'm realizing, Hey, I may never give you Tope a hug this side of heaven. 00:48:53.800 --> 00:49:00.080 I might never, it's going to be once in a blue moon when I'll see Simon at some mission conference 00:49:00.080 --> 00:49:05.380 somewhere. And when you get into, you know, Abby and, and some of the other names of the guys that 00:49:05.380 --> 00:49:12.300 we're working with and, and bringing on for, uh, through, uh, to be our outpost leaders, um, 00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:16.680 physical is a, is a, is a limiter. 00:49:19.020 --> 00:49:24.900 So we're going to do a digital conference. We're going to do an online conference spring of 25 00:49:24.900 --> 00:49:31.620 aimed at digital missionaries. We were really close in, in previous years. And it was, this was back 00:49:31.620 --> 00:49:36.780 before we had narrowed down on digital missions. We were trying to figure out how to do a digital 00:49:36.780 --> 00:49:43.640 conference. That was the digital, uh, physical, physical, physical church, hybrid church and, and digital 00:49:43.640 --> 00:49:51.080 planter and digital missionary at the same time. And just to be honest, everything got confusing. Um, 00:49:51.080 --> 00:49:58.120 and that's where it's like the simplification of this. And so stay tuned for a digital missionary 00:49:58.120 --> 00:50:01.160 conference spring of 2025. 00:50:04.620 --> 00:50:07.320 I have no idea what it's going to be, but we're going to do it. 00:50:10.160 --> 00:50:16.440 And since we're talking crazy, number 16, Barbara's going to kill me. We are going to do an online 00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:23.900 conference, a second one fall of 2025. I told the board, uh, we put it in our goals. We're going 00:50:23.900 --> 00:50:31.100 to do two online conferences in the year 2025, uh, different topics, different themes in my mind. 00:50:31.100 --> 00:50:33.600 I've already got some ideas. No, I'm not going to tell you. 00:50:34.460 --> 00:50:41.360 Maybe if somebody would like, you know, invest, I don't know, $5,000 in my crypto account. No, I'm 00:50:41.360 --> 00:50:50.380 kidding. Um, the, the, the, the grassroots of this thing is, is that, um, we want to resource 00:50:50.380 --> 00:50:57.680 digital missionaries at a global level and we're going to be figuring out, honestly, I think the 00:50:57.680 --> 00:51:02.320 spring conference is going to be a Guinea pig. We're, we're thinking, at least I'm thinking some radical 00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:08.260 ideas and we got to get the team starting to, you know, on the agenda, I'll be honest on the staff 00:51:08.260 --> 00:51:16.840 agendas. We meet weekly. And, um, I usually have like four bullets that I want to cover. And, um, 00:51:17.040 --> 00:51:23.560 you know, we meet for an hour and everybody's got agendas. Every's busy. Um, and, uh, you know, 00:51:23.600 --> 00:51:27.340 flat caps actually, you know, teasing this. He's like, I've been waiting for that. Yeah. I've been 00:51:27.340 --> 00:51:32.060 waiting for it for the conference. We have, because for months I've been saying like the 00:51:32.060 --> 00:51:36.780 fourth bullet on the agenda is conference. The fourth bullet is conference because we've, 00:51:36.780 --> 00:51:40.800 we've been eating and talk about it. And, uh, I would never, we would never get through one, 00:51:40.860 --> 00:51:44.820 two, and three to be able to get to the fourth one. And it was always last. And, uh, and so the 00:51:44.820 --> 00:51:51.020 meeting, we've got a meeting tomorrow, tomorrow. And I think there's two bullets, uh, in the second 00:51:51.020 --> 00:52:00.140 one is, is, uh, is, um, the conferences. And so I'm, I'm dreaming of some crazy ideas of how to do 00:52:00.140 --> 00:52:06.180 this. And there, there's excitement. Uh, Stacy's jumping in here. Woohoo. Is that, is that the 00:52:06.180 --> 00:52:12.120 right way? How do I say, you know, I never know the intonation of, of woohoo. I, you know, this is 00:52:12.120 --> 00:52:17.960 when I would, I was, I was a tech director at a physical church. The, the, you know, the praise 00:52:17.960 --> 00:52:23.000 slides where people to be like, you know, the Oz and the, whatever. I hate it when churches, even 00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:27.700 churches I would visit now and people would like type those words out all the way through. Uh, but 00:52:27.700 --> 00:52:33.940 I'm distracting, you know, tall skin and Kiwi is very excited about the two conferences. I'm excited 00:52:33.940 --> 00:52:38.680 to get tall skin and Kiwi talking at a conference, tall skin and Kiwi. You're going to be the first 00:52:38.680 --> 00:52:43.180 person. I'm actually going to publicly ask you right now on the stream. I want you to speak. I want you 00:52:43.180 --> 00:52:47.560 to lead a breakout at one of the conferences. I have no idea out of the 5 million things you could 00:52:47.560 --> 00:52:52.940 talk about, what you want to talk about. We're going to figure that out. I'll hit you up later. 00:52:54.220 --> 00:53:01.260 Um, we, I want to think outside of the box to do this and figure out how to get voices like tall 00:53:01.260 --> 00:53:08.740 skinny Kiwis audible in front of others. How do I get tall skinny Kiwi heard by the world? And at the 00:53:08.740 --> 00:53:15.840 same time, give the world the opportunity to interact with each other. That if time zones were not a thing, 00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:21.960 digital ministry would be simple, freaking time zones, kill it. And so this is what, this is what 00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:29.740 we're trying to do is, um, I'll tell you, I'll tell you what I'm thinking. I'm not, not this, 00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:39.220 but you use video, you use video to inform. I said this yesterday to Barbara in, in a meeting about 00:53:39.220 --> 00:53:44.600 something completely separate. And Barbara's like, I can do that. Like it was, it was a, it was, it was, 00:53:44.660 --> 00:53:49.820 it was a proud moment for me because I got, I lit Barbara's eyes up. Normally Barbara lights my eyes. 00:53:49.900 --> 00:53:54.220 She says something radical and I'm like, Oh my gosh, yes. But I said it, I was like, you use video 00:53:54.220 --> 00:54:04.160 to inform and instruct. You use a synchronous to process and you use, um, uh, interaction huddles, 00:54:04.240 --> 00:54:10.980 meeting conversation to apply. And she heard that. And she's like, that's exactly what we're going to 00:54:10.980 --> 00:54:18.040 do. And she, she rolled out the show. It was so beautiful. It's like, it's a proud moment for Jeff. 00:54:18.040 --> 00:54:23.420 I called my mom afterwards, mommy, guess what? No, I'm kidding. I didn't do that. Um, I may get my 00:54:23.420 --> 00:54:28.380 mom to do a breakout. No, I don't, I don't. Well, don't hold me to that. That's not one of the 00:54:28.380 --> 00:54:35.040 promises. My mother is not one of the promises of, of 2025. Where am I? I'm going at an hour and I've 00:54:35.040 --> 00:54:38.500 got eight left. I think we're going to flow. Oh my gosh. I was about to say we're going to fly through 00:54:38.500 --> 00:54:45.640 this. Then I get to number 18. You got some music kind of fits with, with where we're going. 00:54:45.640 --> 00:54:49.760 I wanted to mix up the soundtrack a little bit. Cause I knew 18 was coming. 00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:56.800 I don't like the soundtrack like stream beats. I normally like this one album. I chose, I don't 00:54:56.800 --> 00:55:06.720 remember. It's a little too, um, rough. It's not, not chill enough for me. Like I want a music bed. 00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:11.980 Like I don't, I don't like the sharpness of the, the horns is a little much number 18. 00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:18.940 The 18th promise that we want to help people like you do digital missions work, 00:55:19.080 --> 00:55:24.420 digital ministry, digital ministry. As I burp, that actually fits for number 18. Did somebody say 00:55:24.420 --> 00:55:35.520 gaming? Maybe, maybe anybody Bueller Bueller? We want to launch a gaming outpost. You know, we've got 00:55:35.520 --> 00:55:46.040 these, um, outpost networks, you know, Simon's doing stuff in Europe. I think I've shared this 00:55:46.040 --> 00:55:52.980 already. Simon's in Europe, utopies and sub-saharan South Africa. We're talking to Abby in, um, in 00:55:52.980 --> 00:56:00.160 Southeast Asia. We're talking to others in the Middle East. We're talking to, um, uh, uh, Adrian down in, 00:56:00.160 --> 00:56:06.880 um, Oceania in that area and some others in the space, you know, and, and, and so we're creating 00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:13.140 a foothold that we want to expand into, into other countries and other regions talking incredible 00:56:13.140 --> 00:56:17.540 conversations right now in South America. It's just taking time, but really excited about what's 00:56:17.540 --> 00:56:22.360 happening there. And it was funny, my daughter, I told the story, but my daughter asked me the other 00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:29.160 day before Christmas, daddy, what's going on with, um, with, uh, with, uh, EDM, what's going on with 00:56:29.160 --> 00:56:33.340 the church digital? Tell me, I was driving her to dance. You know, if I only get my daughter to talk, 00:56:33.400 --> 00:56:38.000 I drive her to dance and I've got like 20 minutes just of nothing but her and me talking. It's, it's 00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:45.820 the best, it's the best moment of my day. And, uh, and so I was telling her all about these outposts 00:56:45.820 --> 00:56:50.720 and I'm proud. I'm like patting myself on the back. It's like, Hey, this, we did it. We're getting 00:56:50.720 --> 00:56:56.540 a global footprint. Caitlin, isn't this awesome? And, um, and Caitlin, you know, looks at me and says, 00:56:56.620 --> 00:57:04.180 daddy, um, I thought you were about platforms instead of places. Why, why are you copping out 00:57:04.180 --> 00:57:14.360 in just doing places? Why aren't you doing platforms? Dang kid. She gets that from her mother, 00:57:14.720 --> 00:57:21.240 you know, challenging, pushing back, being right. And so that's the thing. It's like, 00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:25.600 you know, we talk about platforms as places and we're doing all this work and celebrating the work 00:57:25.600 --> 00:57:30.360 that we're doing in places. And we weren't doing a platform. Okay. Gaming's not really a platform. 00:57:30.620 --> 00:57:34.700 You could say Twitch, but then Twitch really isolates the work that's being done in final 00:57:34.700 --> 00:57:39.060 fantasy. So you could do Twitch and final fantasy in game and streaming, but those are two different 00:57:39.060 --> 00:57:42.900 environments totally. And what do you do with virtual reality? Like really, honestly, 00:57:42.900 --> 00:57:50.900 it should be the metaverse, but metaverse does not really in 25 encapsulate yet the idea of VR and 00:57:50.900 --> 00:57:56.880 gaming because gaming really hasn't enveloped. You see what I'm doing here? Like the whole gaming 00:57:56.880 --> 00:58:08.440 ecosystem is, is raw. It's fluid. Like there's so much potential in that space, untapped resources, 00:58:08.740 --> 00:58:16.980 blue freaking ocean in gaming. Was it one of the largest unreached people groups right now are 00:58:16.980 --> 00:58:27.720 gamers? Like, Oh my gosh, it could be an incredible, an incredible opportunity. 00:58:29.740 --> 00:58:40.900 And so we went to the guy and said, Hey, the guy, the top guy and said, Hey, who, 00:58:41.160 --> 00:58:49.640 how can you help us? What can we do here into gaming? And he said, challenge accepted. 00:58:52.740 --> 00:58:57.180 black app is going to launch a gaming outpost 00:58:57.180 --> 00:59:09.100 to encourage gamers ministry in the space to explore new opportunities, to experiment with 00:59:09.100 --> 00:59:15.720 new techniques and new ideas and to empower others. I always feel bad. My fourth finger can't really do 00:59:15.720 --> 00:59:20.220 that. It looks like I'm flicking people off into empower. This was a really powerful moment. And I 00:59:20.220 --> 00:59:26.100 literally just said, flick off. I don't want, I was, so we went to the guy I'm starting over because 00:59:26.100 --> 00:59:34.940 this is going to be a, a, a, a story, uh, you know, short. So we went to the guy, Layton's laughing 00:59:34.940 --> 00:59:41.360 at me right now. Like you freaking moron. You blew that. So we went to the guy, we, the guy in gaming 00:59:41.360 --> 00:59:50.860 and said, could you help us? And he said, challenge accepted. And so we're doing it. We are starting an 00:59:50.860 --> 00:59:59.900 online gaming outpost aimed at one, encouraging gamers that are doing ministry in the space. 01:00:00.240 --> 01:00:08.140 Number two, exploring new ideas, new platforms. Three, testing out new techniques, experimenting with 01:00:08.140 --> 01:00:18.780 new ideas. And number four, encouraging those that are doing ministry there. We want to see a movement 01:00:18.780 --> 01:00:30.980 of people in gaming space, Twitch, MMO video games, virtual reality, any place that you can do community. 01:00:31.980 --> 01:00:37.260 I believe there's an opportunity to be the church in that space. 01:00:40.120 --> 01:00:46.520 I don't know that you can really do community in, oh, I don't know, Fortnite. I mean, somebody can prove 01:00:46.520 --> 01:00:51.160 me wrong, but yeah, you can do a Bible study in over 40 minutes if you're around trying not to get 01:00:51.160 --> 01:00:56.980 killed. So I'm not saying every video game, but where you can have ongoing community, where you can 01:00:56.980 --> 01:01:04.740 build relationships, let's do it. Let's go. And I am excited about FlatCap leading out, had a 01:01:04.740 --> 01:01:09.680 conversation with Andy today. We are excited about that. Andy's going to be coming along. I'm already 01:01:09.680 --> 01:01:15.820 recruiting volunteers here or there talking with people about it and teasing it. And so if you want 01:01:15.820 --> 01:01:27.760 to get connected, hook up with Leighton in Discord or in Twitch, Discord or in WhatsApp and do that and let's get 01:01:27.760 --> 01:01:28.260 connected. 01:01:33.880 --> 01:01:41.020 Stacy, I have no idea what this is. Please continue to share lessons learned from her. What did I say with her? 01:01:41.880 --> 01:01:45.400 That's awkward. I just called you up publicly. I didn't mean that. I'm sorry. I didn't read that. I was 01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:49.500 like, love the lessons. But then I saw the her and I was like, I'm not sure what that is. Number 19. 01:01:51.000 --> 01:02:00.480 I'm learning stuff. Okay. I am learning stuff about myself in this season. And I'm calling myself on 01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:05.240 it here a little bit. By the way, I'm doing a two hours. This is great. You got to go stick around, 01:02:05.300 --> 01:02:12.760 whatever. I love it. I, um, I'm doing, I'm learning about myself. I, I am, I did it this year again. I, 01:02:12.760 --> 01:02:19.700 I normally, I gave up on this. I was really doing this before a lot. And, um, Jason Morris invited me 01:02:19.700 --> 01:02:24.420 in to do it again, to try it a different way. And for whatever reason, I have a little more energy this 01:02:24.420 --> 01:02:33.700 time, this time around. And so I'm doing a, a Bible reading plan, uh, through, um, YouVersion, 01:02:34.020 --> 01:02:40.840 the app. And I've got, I don't know, Layton, 25. Layton's not in that. I'm sorry. I'm trying to 01:02:40.840 --> 01:02:44.360 look who's on here. Stacy. I actually, I can't remember. I don't think anybody on the stream's on 01:02:44.360 --> 01:02:50.600 this. There's maybe 25, 26 people. Kiwi was going to be on there. Um, but he, uh, didn't sign up. 01:02:50.600 --> 01:02:58.260 And so, but I've got 25, 26 people going through that with us. And, um, it's different this time 01:02:58.260 --> 01:03:03.840 around, man. Like, um, this is the first reading plan that I've read that I've tried. I've tried this 01:03:03.840 --> 01:03:08.440 before, you know, where you read like three or four chapters a day and you go through the entire Bible 01:03:08.440 --> 01:03:15.060 in 365 days. I, to be honest, I've tried it. And, um, I usually get to like Leviticus and numbers and 01:03:15.060 --> 01:03:22.460 I just want to like, I'm done. I can't, or, you know, I get distracted and other times and it's not 01:03:22.460 --> 01:03:29.640 a priority. And so I, I, I've given up in past years, even attempting, I think last year, last year, 01:03:29.660 --> 01:03:34.600 I recruited like, I don't know, 40 people to do this. Like it was crazy. The amount of people that I'd 01:03:34.600 --> 01:03:38.840 signed up to, to go on this with us. And then I think I, I didn't make it through week one. 01:03:38.840 --> 01:03:48.280 I like was just, I'm out peace. Um, and, uh, so I got to this place with, um, uh, going with JMO 01:03:48.280 --> 01:03:53.460 and it's just, it's, it's really, it's, it's, it's refreshing this round. I've got my wife, 01:03:53.520 --> 01:03:57.980 I've got both my kids, you know, my wife and I were having a conversation last night talking about 01:03:57.980 --> 01:04:04.280 Job. Um, and it's, it's just, it's been refreshing and, you know, doing it together. And so 01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:13.920 but in that I'm learning about myself, I'm learning, um, what, um, what I'm strong at 01:04:13.920 --> 01:04:19.060 and, and, and where I'm weak. And, um, you know, it's interesting. I I've actually, 01:04:20.060 --> 01:04:31.000 Stacey has used this language with me. Um, I wrote, I wrote an a, I wrote a, a, a four page, 01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:37.600 uh, script on something and I sent it to chat GPT and I said, shorten this and, uh, make it more 01:04:37.600 --> 01:04:42.440 rebel-y or rebel-like, I think. Cause that's often what I'll do with chat GPT. I'll, I'll, 01:04:42.440 --> 01:04:49.220 I'll make chat GPT get my angst up. Um, it's a little secret and, uh, and it does a great job. 01:04:49.580 --> 01:04:54.840 Um, but chat GPT used the same language and I went back through my script and I never used this 01:04:54.840 --> 01:05:01.040 language. Um, and chat GPT and Stacey, uh, and others have said, you know, know your lane. 01:05:02.180 --> 01:05:08.440 And, uh, and so it's like, okay, I, I, I know my lane and, uh, and just to be honest, like I'm, 01:05:08.440 --> 01:05:15.560 I'm a very, um, aggressive in some areas, but, but my weak area, if I'm honest, gets into areas 01:05:15.560 --> 01:05:22.500 like where I'm going to hit you here with 19 and 20. 19, the church digital historically, 01:05:22.780 --> 01:05:30.120 really, I would not say has been a gospel centered organization. Now. Yes. I mean, the gospel, 01:05:30.260 --> 01:05:36.100 great commission, the, the, the purpose of, of Jesus and, and all of that. Um, and I, I don't 01:05:36.100 --> 01:05:43.700 want to be dismissive or demeaning towards it, but historically I, I, I'm not the guy that's going 01:05:43.700 --> 01:05:52.320 to write a, a, a fluffy rhetoric about, um, Christ in my life. Like I, I just, I'm, I'm going to tell 01:05:52.320 --> 01:05:58.180 a story or something like that, but for whatever reason, I'm, I'm not a pastor. I'm not a preacher. 01:05:58.340 --> 01:06:03.640 That's, that's not my skillset. Uh, and so I'm, I'm more of the apostolic than I am the shepherd 01:06:03.640 --> 01:06:12.200 and I'm not a teacher at all. Uh, and so for me, it's been hard to get that in. And now we've started 01:06:12.200 --> 01:06:17.220 to involve some others in talking a pest. Those of you that are going through EDM are going to get 01:06:17.220 --> 01:06:21.860 into a pest here in a couple of weeks. Uh, but now we start to bring in the a pest model of 01:06:21.860 --> 01:06:29.460 apostolic, um, uh, I just profit, uh, evangelist shepherd teacher and the role of, of each of 01:06:29.460 --> 01:06:34.240 those functions, uh, within the organization, within the team and within our body, the people 01:06:34.240 --> 01:06:40.560 we're ministering to and bringing out their, their skill sets and their wirings and giftings 01:06:40.560 --> 01:06:46.500 and drivings towards that. I'm recognizing that as an organization, historically, the church 01:06:46.500 --> 01:06:52.100 digital has lacked in showing or communicating the idea of gospel centered. 01:06:54.820 --> 01:07:04.940 And that's going to fix in 25. We are going to change that in 25, 2025. We are going to come 01:07:04.940 --> 01:07:13.060 out and address the idea. Uh, we, we will be more gospel centered one. And two, I would love 01:07:13.060 --> 01:07:23.440 to figure out what a gospel centered digital church looks like and start to maybe reflect those ideas 01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:30.580 and values on all of us so that we cannot be apostolic driven, but get to the place of being gospel led 01:07:32.660 --> 01:07:38.340 that I don't think we are yet. Call me crazy. Maybe you are. And if you are, if you have experience, 01:07:38.340 --> 01:07:44.820 if you have understanding, if you have a vision for this, that I'm not seeing, I would love to, 01:07:44.820 --> 01:07:53.440 to get into that. But there's an opportunity to be more than apostolic here. You know, as I'm listening 01:07:53.440 --> 01:07:58.540 to hardcore tech, it's really loud in my ears. That's why I keep coming back to it. I keep turning 01:07:58.540 --> 01:08:04.660 it down. Uh, maybe it's not loud where you are. That's good. Um, but we, uh, we want to get to the 01:08:04.660 --> 01:08:09.780 place. I'm going to hit the skip button, go on to the next one. Um, we, we want to get to the place 01:08:09.780 --> 01:08:15.860 where we're representing those values where gospel, the gospel is not a thing in the church, but it is 01:08:15.860 --> 01:08:23.380 the thing in the church. And, and I don't, I don't know that we're there yet. So number 18, 19 gospel 01:08:23.380 --> 01:08:32.420 center, number 20 in that same thread, prayer centric. What does it look like for us as, as a, as a church, 01:08:32.420 --> 01:08:37.460 as a culture, as missionaries to be centered and grounded in prayer? Where, where our decisions, 01:08:37.460 --> 01:08:42.860 where our values, where, where our, our judgments, where our motivations are, are, are prayer led. 01:08:42.860 --> 01:08:50.260 I'm not, I'm not that I don't have that wiring. That's not my default. That's the way I want to say 01:08:50.260 --> 01:08:59.200 it. That's not my default. I can be prayer centered. Um, but when crap, it's the fan, I go into fix it 01:08:59.200 --> 01:09:06.840 mode. I don't go into God. What do I do in this moment? Mold mode. And that's, that's some of the 01:09:06.840 --> 01:09:14.160 things that, that I want to work on at a personal level at, at a organizational level. And I maybe 01:09:14.160 --> 01:09:18.540 want to encourage you. Maybe, maybe you got this fixed. Maybe you got this figured out. And if so, 01:09:18.580 --> 01:09:24.220 I'd love to, I'd love to learn from you. What is a prayer centric digital missionary look like? What 01:09:24.220 --> 01:09:28.980 is a prayer centric, a digital church look like virtual reality church? You know, it's interesting. 01:09:28.980 --> 01:09:37.260 There was a, during COVID, uh, let me try to think on the stat. I don't think I could pull 01:09:37.260 --> 01:09:46.920 the number during COVID alpha did some, um, yeah, it's a flat cap. I'm going to use you 01:09:46.920 --> 01:09:55.800 for a second. So excited, um, about the prayer adventure in that challenge. Alpha did, uh, did 01:09:55.800 --> 01:10:01.480 some report with Barna as part of Barna's digital church. Stadia did something. And then Stadia 01:10:01.480 --> 01:10:07.860 worked with Barna on digital church. Um, then somebody stepped in and did something on something, 01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:14.040 digital evangelism maybe. And then Barna, Barna and Alpha did digital prayer. But the major, 01:10:14.120 --> 01:10:24.120 um, the major point was that lost people, people called to Christ, they wanted to be prayed for 01:10:24.120 --> 01:10:27.920 digitally. I don't remember the stats. I don't remember the numbers, but that was the takeaway 01:10:27.920 --> 01:10:35.480 is that lost people during the COVID season were open to the idea of being prayed for digitally. 01:10:37.480 --> 01:10:44.600 To me, one of the greatest losses in COVID was that we didn't pray more digitally and use that as an 01:10:44.600 --> 01:10:50.840 opportunity to connect and to dialogue with people and involve them in community. And I don't want to 01:10:50.840 --> 01:10:55.000 be like, Hey, prayer is the opportunity. I don't want to cheapen prayer by saying it's at the connection 01:10:55.000 --> 01:11:01.160 level. It's shallow and superficial. I'm not saying that, but I think if prayer is the thread that goes 01:11:01.160 --> 01:11:05.640 all the way through, if prayer is centric to everything, it's a different thing. 01:11:06.600 --> 01:11:11.160 And that's, that's what I'm aiming for. We've got some feedback coming in. Greg Saldy, 01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:16.920 uh, number 19, gospel centered. I've always been impressed in how specifically global south folks 01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:21.640 seem to always be gospel-led and not lost in the details. Talking last South, South America, 01:11:21.640 --> 01:11:26.520 everybody beneath the equator. Number two, getting together and praying has changed our ministry 01:11:27.080 --> 01:11:30.440 so much. Greg, we'd love to offline with you. DM me. Let's talk about it 01:11:30.440 --> 01:11:34.440 in discord. You're in discord, I think. So yeah, I would love to get with you on that. 01:11:34.440 --> 01:11:39.400 Um, you know, it's interesting. Greg is Greg. You can correct me if I'm wrong. You're in 01:11:39.960 --> 01:11:47.080 France, Spain, Western Europe. Um, I believe. And so global perspective 01:11:50.440 --> 01:11:57.400 promise 26, not in the script. We will learn the U S church, uh, we'll learn from the global church 01:11:57.400 --> 01:12:05.160 during the church digital. Um, that's big right there. No, uh, uh, Stacy here. I've learned from 01:12:05.160 --> 01:12:10.680 some friends who have added so that new disciples are made at the end of, of the mission statement, 01:12:11.400 --> 01:12:15.880 uh, at, of their mission statement. Yeah. I want to get to the place where the disciples are making 01:12:15.880 --> 01:12:23.240 disciples generational. That's promise 27 that we will be generational, that we will see our children, 01:12:23.240 --> 01:12:29.880 uh, multiply, uh, not in that way, but yeah, we want to see, um, generation of generation of 01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:33.880 generation. I want to meet people whose lives were changed by the church digital, 01:12:33.880 --> 01:12:46.360 who were say, who's this Jeff guy? It's not about me. I was, um, yeah, I'll tell the story. There's a, 01:12:46.360 --> 01:12:52.760 there's a, um, a disciple material, uh, uh, I call it a movement, uh, called Timothy initiative. 01:12:52.760 --> 01:12:59.240 This is comes out of, um, it actually started overseas as I recall. I think it was like, uh, 01:12:59.240 --> 01:13:04.520 China, East, East Asia thing material that was developed for there. And then it was ported over 01:13:04.520 --> 01:13:10.600 into American different languages. And now it's like this, this global movement. And, uh, I met the CEO 01:13:11.640 --> 01:13:18.440 way before I was doing anything with the church digital. This is back in like 2015, 2016. And, um, 01:13:18.440 --> 01:13:25.480 he, um, the, the CEO, the founder of the Timothy initiative, you know, I, I just shared with him 01:13:25.480 --> 01:13:31.320 the ideas of digital and he and I built a casual relationship. Like, you know, I, I would reach out 01:13:31.320 --> 01:13:37.240 to him every six months or a year. I'd see him at a conference and have a 10 minute conversation with 01:13:37.240 --> 01:13:45.000 him. Nothing, nothing fancy. Um, but I started, I started texting him with the giving Tuesday thing, 01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:49.320 inviting him to the giving Tuesday and new years. And it just started, he started encouraging me. 01:13:50.520 --> 01:13:55.560 And, um, I told him, I was like, yeah, we're, we're, you know, get excited about the new year. 01:13:55.560 --> 01:14:00.360 How can we pray for, how can I pray for Timothy initiative? And, and he's like, he's like, Jeff, 01:14:00.360 --> 01:14:12.920 we're our goal is to train 180,000 missionaries in 2025. Could you imagine training 180,000 people 01:14:14.040 --> 01:14:15.240 on how to share the gospel? 01:14:18.200 --> 01:14:19.880 You know, the, I, I remember, 01:14:22.200 --> 01:14:25.640 I remember him telling a story on a podcast. I think it was 01:14:26.520 --> 01:14:34.280 the church planning podcast that the CEO of a stadia does, um, where the, the, this man 01:14:34.280 --> 01:14:41.400 talked about, um, when he was a physical church pastor, he was a lead pastor at a church in Alabama 01:14:41.400 --> 01:14:47.320 for like five years. Then he was a church, a pastor, lead pastor at a church in whatever for six years. 01:14:47.320 --> 01:14:53.080 So he had 11 years as lead pastor at two physical churches. And he went and he added up, 01:14:53.800 --> 01:15:01.880 he added up all of those churches, the people that got saved, the lives that were changed, 01:15:02.440 --> 01:15:07.640 a in, in through the Sunday morning services and be what was documented from like friends of friends 01:15:07.640 --> 01:15:13.080 and whatever, all the, the gross and the baptisms that happened within that, within the two churches 01:15:13.080 --> 01:15:18.280 that he worked at in that lifespan. And those 11 years, I know a number was interesting. I mean, 01:15:18.280 --> 01:15:23.240 it was, it was a good pastors, good preacher. And so there were, uh, there's life change from that. 01:15:23.240 --> 01:15:32.280 Then he went and, um, he added up, um, all the numbers that within one year of, uh, 01:15:32.280 --> 01:15:35.800 Timothy initiative of, of a disciple making where it's disciples making disciples, 01:15:35.800 --> 01:15:42.760 disciples, the multiplication model. So growth model to 11 years, one year of multiplication model, 01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:49.320 one year blew it away. Like in three months, like it was crazy. And that's the thing. If we can get 01:15:49.320 --> 01:15:54.200 to the place where new disciples are made and disciples are making disciples, multiplying that 01:15:54.200 --> 01:15:59.480 through, that's beautiful. I was wrong. Well, actually I think it's in Spain or grant France. 01:15:59.480 --> 01:16:07.080 Greg says France catching up on that. So that's, that's good. Um, uh, Stacy, let's get on the prayer 01:16:07.080 --> 01:16:14.600 centric life. Um, yeah, I, I need, this is, this is where I need to learn. I need, I need to know 01:16:14.600 --> 01:16:22.680 my lane and realize that my lane is not the lane or Elaine as an Elaine was Seinfeld. Oh man, that was 01:16:22.680 --> 01:16:29.400 a, that was a bad cut. Somebody, we talking about cut, somebody cut, cut that out, cut that out. Um, 01:16:29.400 --> 01:16:35.080 that was bad too, man. I'm, I'm showing my age. I'm literally talking 75 minutes here. I'm running 01:16:35.080 --> 01:16:43.160 out of stuff. Me going straight here. Just, just vamping. All right. Number. Ooh, I there, this was, 01:16:43.160 --> 01:16:49.080 this was supposed to be number 20. Now it's 21. I made a mistake somewhere. I'll go ahead and do it. 01:16:49.080 --> 01:16:53.880 Number 21. This would have been cooler if it was number 20. You'll see in a second. 01:16:55.320 --> 01:17:00.840 Talking about multiplication, talking about disciples, making disciples, talking about 01:17:00.840 --> 01:17:07.600 empowering ministry at a global scale. The church digital promises. This might also get me fired, 01:17:07.600 --> 01:17:14.460 but the good news is y'all play a part in this one. Like this is, if this is going to happen, 01:17:14.460 --> 01:17:24.220 it's going to be you. If we are going to, um, if we're going to see 21 happen, we need your help. 01:17:25.260 --> 01:17:36.540 Because the 21st promise of the church digital for 2025 is that we will have 20,000 gospel conversations 01:17:37.180 --> 01:17:46.140 in 2025. Simply put said another way. We want to see digital missionaries share Jesus digitally or in 01:17:46.140 --> 01:17:56.540 virtual reality 20,000 times. Technically I said, I wanted to be 20,025 times in 2025. You know, that's, 01:17:57.180 --> 01:18:03.580 well, first off, I think it's important what I'm asking us to do. And I say us, because I play a role 01:18:03.580 --> 01:18:09.900 in this too, right? I'm asking us to, to have the conversation. I'm not asking for 20,000 salvations. 01:18:09.900 --> 01:18:14.300 I've actually worked for organizations and churches that put the number on salvations and we're judging 01:18:14.300 --> 01:18:20.060 salvations. That's not our job. That's God's. That's the Holy Spirit. It's not my job to, to make 01:18:20.060 --> 01:18:26.620 someone accept Christ. It's my job to present, to give them the opportunity to help them understand if 01:18:26.620 --> 01:18:33.660 they're not receptive, that's between them and God. So what I'm actually asking for, and, and flat cap 01:18:33.660 --> 01:18:45.260 wrote the number out so graciously, 20,025 conversations about Jesus with 20,025 people in 2025. 01:18:47.180 --> 01:18:55.660 We, we want to see life change happen, y'all. And Jeff, that's hard. Well, here's, here's the reality. 01:18:55.660 --> 01:19:00.140 We want to equip one of our goals, another goal as an organization. We want to equip 200 digital 01:19:00.140 --> 01:19:07.980 missionaries this year. If 200 digital missionaries who share Jesus twice a week across the year, 50 01:19:07.980 --> 01:19:13.420 weeks, that's 20,000 right there. Two conversations with people about Jesus a week. 01:19:14.780 --> 01:19:20.220 I'm not, I don't mean to minimalize it. I don't mean to cheapen it. Um, it's, it's an opportunity. 01:19:22.300 --> 01:19:29.660 What could God do if we had 20,000 conversations with people about Jesus? 01:19:33.020 --> 01:19:39.820 What would, what could God do as that grows and expands? That's the thing that I'm excited about. 01:19:40.460 --> 01:19:43.820 Yes. I'm excited about where we are today and what's going to happen in 25. 01:19:45.500 --> 01:19:54.620 I'm excited about where 25 is going to take 26 and where 26 is going to take 27 and where 27, 28, 01:19:54.620 --> 01:19:59.180 and what it's going to be looking like, you know, a decade or two down the road when, you know, 01:19:59.180 --> 01:20:04.300 somebody's texting me, man, we're just starting out on this movement. I'm really excited. And, uh, and, 01:20:04.300 --> 01:20:08.700 you know, how can I pray for you? And I can say something like, oh man, we're, 01:20:08.700 --> 01:20:14.940 our goal is to train 180,000 digital missionaries this year for the church digital. We got to start 01:20:14.940 --> 01:20:19.820 somewhere. Uh, and right now you all at the ground level. So, Hey, you know what, what do you need? 01:20:19.820 --> 01:20:25.020 You need two conferences. You need us to do two digital conferences on how you can be more effective 01:20:25.020 --> 01:20:29.740 as a digital missionary, please. I'll do that. No problem. You want, oh, I'm, I was about to give 01:20:29.740 --> 01:20:36.380 away what's coming up. It's about to give it away. I'm not, not, not, not going to, you need resources. 01:20:36.380 --> 01:20:42.220 You need connection. You need, need help getting funding. What do you need? Because I want to make 01:20:42.220 --> 01:20:49.900 it easy for you so that you can do the thing that the kingdom needs. Get out there and, and tell others 01:20:49.900 --> 01:20:57.340 about Jesus digitally. This is beautiful. Layton. Layton is excited about this stuff, man. He, 01:20:57.340 --> 01:21:03.500 he's jacked up. What is God already planning through these conversations? Well said, my friend. So 01:21:03.500 --> 01:21:13.900 goal number 21, 20,000 gospel conversations in 2025. All right. Goal number two, uh, 22, 01:21:14.700 --> 01:21:18.620 goal number 22, promise number 22, better way to say that. I'm sorry. 01:21:18.620 --> 01:21:28.940 Promise number 22, uh, stats and stories centered around digital missionary work. We are a part of 01:21:28.940 --> 01:21:36.220 the research that we're doing is we're trying to, to, to collect and, and assemble facts of what's 01:21:36.220 --> 01:21:43.900 happening in global space digitally. We are, we're recognizing opportunities. We're hearing murmurs. 01:21:43.900 --> 01:21:50.940 We're not seeing trends yet. Um, and so we're, we're just, uh, you know, the, the stats guy, 01:21:50.940 --> 01:21:55.260 the research and the researcher in me is, you know, we're looking for quantitative numbers and 01:21:55.260 --> 01:22:01.900 we're looking for qualitative stories of what's happening, uh, in, in the digital mission space. 01:22:02.460 --> 01:22:05.900 And so, yeah, we're going to be collecting them, which means we're going to be telling them. We're 01:22:05.900 --> 01:22:09.500 going to be sharing them. We want to encourage you about, about what's happening. And so if you get 01:22:09.500 --> 01:22:15.260 something awesome, that's happening, we want to hear about it. Let us know, uh, share it with us. 01:22:16.700 --> 01:22:27.900 So number 22 rolling here, we want to, uh, collect and share stats and stories centered around digital 01:22:27.900 --> 01:22:35.020 missionary work. Number 23 to three, we're going to be doing four town hall meetings. I, you know, 01:22:35.020 --> 01:22:42.700 I really like, we did a town hall back in like September announcing the, um, uh, the move to a 01:22:42.700 --> 01:22:50.140 digital missionary sending agency. I don't know. I don't think the team can handle another four radical 01:22:50.140 --> 01:22:55.100 shifts, organizational shifts, like moving to a digital missionary sending agency. I don't think 01:22:55.100 --> 01:23:05.260 I can pull that off four times in 25. Don't hear me say that. Um, but I will, um, I will promise you 01:23:05.260 --> 01:23:09.740 that we're going to gather together and we're going to listen. We're going to dialogue in, 01:23:09.740 --> 01:23:17.420 in that team hall, uh, in that team hall and that town hall model. We want to hear from you in that. 01:23:17.420 --> 01:23:23.180 So, um, keep stay tuned. We're going to hear from you for town hall meetings, two, three, 01:23:23.180 --> 01:23:28.620 four town hall meetings in 2025, two, three, four, five. You kind of get the, the joke that's happening 01:23:28.620 --> 01:23:33.980 there with that tall, skinny Kiwi. I look forward to hearing more hopeful rumors, uh, of what's 01:23:33.980 --> 01:23:40.540 happening out of Asia. I have heard some incredible things coming out of Asia. Um, there was, there was a 01:23:40.540 --> 01:23:45.500 couple of people that we were connected with in, um, at Lausanne that we're talking a lot about what's 01:23:45.500 --> 01:23:59.180 happening in Asia. 24, the 24th promise for, uh, the church digital in 2025, 24 TCD promise for the 01:23:59.180 --> 01:24:05.180 church digital in 2025. Um, I am going to probably get myself in trouble for this one too. 01:24:08.380 --> 01:24:14.940 Well, okay. I'll put an asterisk on it because I can promise one. I don't know that I can promise 01:24:14.940 --> 01:24:21.660 the second half. We'll see the first half. I promise we're going to do another giving Tuesday 01:24:21.660 --> 01:24:31.580 live stream. That for me was the, that was almost a conference into itself. Like I actually considered 01:24:32.220 --> 01:24:37.740 not doing a second conference in the fall and just doing the giving Tuesday as, as exhausting, 01:24:37.740 --> 01:24:44.860 but as cohesive and as bringing together an event. It was doing that 12 hour live stream, um, was, 01:24:44.860 --> 01:24:51.100 was, was beautiful. Um, I, you know, I think it, it brought, um, I mean, yeah, it brought funding to 01:24:51.100 --> 01:24:58.060 TCD and I'm thankful for that. Hear me. Uh, but it more than, more than the funding, it brought 01:24:58.620 --> 01:25:05.500 awareness to what was happening at a larger scale. I actually had, I've seen people get connected 01:25:05.500 --> 01:25:12.620 with digital churches and virtual churches off of watching all my stream. Like I've had friends get 01:25:12.620 --> 01:25:17.340 connected into other ministries as a result of it, you know, stories that I can tell you directly. 01:25:17.340 --> 01:25:23.820 And I know what happened in other, in other spaces too. And so I am very excited to do another giving 01:25:23.820 --> 01:25:33.980 Tuesday live stream. 24 done 24 B. I really want this. I'm not sure I can say it, but I'm going to say 01:25:33.980 --> 01:25:38.300 it and then somebody is going to hold me to it. And that's why we'll do it. But I don't know that I 01:25:38.300 --> 01:25:47.740 have it in me. I want to do a 24 hour live stream. Actually, you know what? It's 2025. I want to do a 25 01:25:47.740 --> 01:25:54.540 hour live stream. I, you know, I was, I was really convicted by this. I reached out to some of my 01:25:54.540 --> 01:26:03.260 friends over in, um, Oceania, inviting them to this, to the stream to be a part of it. And I got a text, 01:26:03.260 --> 01:26:09.100 some text back from my, um, Australian and New Zealand, New Zealand friends basically saying, 01:26:09.100 --> 01:26:15.980 Hey, Jeff, like we're only like conscious one hour of that stream. Um, it really is just an 01:26:15.980 --> 01:26:21.500 unfortunate time you, you pick to do the stream. And, um, like, I'm actually curious. 01:26:22.300 --> 01:26:29.020 It was at 7 AM right now. Uh, and, uh, uh, Toskini's on. So, I mean, it was an exaggeration, 01:26:29.020 --> 01:26:35.260 but the time was, was very, uh, limiting once you get in time zones are awful globally. I get that. 01:26:36.220 --> 01:26:41.100 I do think there's an opportunity to do a 24 hour live stream. 01:26:42.540 --> 01:26:46.220 That's drawing attention to the work that the church digital is doing globally. 01:26:46.940 --> 01:26:53.660 Like I, I would love to do a live stream for our Oceania friends and let them, you know, 01:26:53.660 --> 01:27:00.540 recruit and draw attention to the ministry they're doing in Oceania or, uh, Southeast Asia or Europe or, 01:27:00.540 --> 01:27:09.820 um, you know, Sub-Saharan South Africa. Like we multiply these ideas down and, um, and, and see them 01:27:09.820 --> 01:27:14.940 expand. Yes. At the local level. Cause that's where the time is, but we're telling the same story at some 01:27:14.940 --> 01:27:21.980 level globally. Flatbeard. We should start the minute the day starts at the date line. That's 01:27:21.980 --> 01:27:25.980 what's that's in the Atlantic, right? That's where it goes out in there. So yeah, that'd be, that'd be 01:27:25.980 --> 01:27:35.740 interesting. Tall, skinny, uh, Kiwi reading it from the 25 hour live stream sponsored by Starbucks, 01:27:35.740 --> 01:27:42.940 Jolt Cola and Red Bull. Yeah. Red Bull gives you wings. I would, um, I want to, I want to asterisk this 01:27:42.940 --> 01:27:49.820 conversation. I am not intending to be on camera. Jeff Reed is not intending to be on camera for 25 01:27:49.820 --> 01:27:56.140 hours. Jeff Reed is intending to do a choice to have a 25 hour stream happen that, Hey, let me hand 01:27:56.140 --> 01:28:02.700 off to Simon in Europe and then disconnect for two hours while Simon runs the stream or something like 01:28:02.700 --> 01:28:11.100 that as a team. We're wrestling through it. I pitched the idea. I did. Hey, what do you think 01:28:11.100 --> 01:28:20.700 about this? Some people loved it. Some people were really excited about the idea of a 25 hour stream. 01:28:21.420 --> 01:28:29.980 Some people, not so much. We will make it a much more interesting stream. It's not just gonna be me 01:28:29.980 --> 01:28:35.660 talking for 12 hours. Is Jolt Cola still around? That's, that's a great question, Melanie. It is. 01:28:36.300 --> 01:28:43.180 Um, we actually, I saw it at a novelty shop this Christmas. It was a, um, it was a pop-up candy 01:28:43.180 --> 01:28:50.860 store and they had like all canned all rare candy and all types of the old fashioned drinks and that 01:28:50.860 --> 01:28:55.260 and Jolt Cola is still around. I'm, I'm sure it's not at the major supermarkets, but yeah, 01:28:55.260 --> 01:28:59.660 you can still get it. Um, I don't know if this would list will be posted somewhere, but I think 01:28:59.660 --> 01:29:03.020 it would be good to use it as a prayer prompt through the year. It is, I, you know, I'm gonna, 01:29:03.020 --> 01:29:05.420 I, Stacy, I appreciate that. I'm gonna write this as a blog. 01:29:08.220 --> 01:29:13.580 I'll probably get it published next year. It may be a filtered version. I'm, I don't think I'll filter 01:29:13.580 --> 01:29:20.540 it. I, I think we're, we're gonna let it roll. Um, A, I think it's good to, for us to pray about it. 01:29:20.540 --> 01:29:33.020 Be, um, the reason I wanted to do this is accountability. Um, I, I just, I wanted to be, 01:29:33.020 --> 01:29:38.860 this is what I'm thinking. And, and, and I just, I wanted to say it on public record and, and, and let 01:29:38.860 --> 01:29:45.420 others join me in praying, join me in helping, you know, burn the ships. Let's, let's go, uh, 01:29:45.420 --> 01:29:52.540 towards it. What I, okay. The prayer centric guy in me is saying, okay, Jeff, I didn't sit over this 01:29:52.540 --> 01:30:00.460 prayer list and pray about it for hours. Um, but I would say that the idea of two conferences is 01:30:00.460 --> 01:30:14.620 something we've been mulling over for years, like 22. I stepped out of, um, Stadia and was like, 01:30:14.620 --> 01:30:19.420 hey, there's an, there's an opportunity here to step into something. Um, we just, we didn't have to 01:30:19.420 --> 01:30:25.020 focus. We were too distracted and we couldn't get all the, all the hemispheres to play together. 01:30:26.060 --> 01:30:31.980 Simplifying, honestly, it was clarifying, which is another reason. Niche casting is so much better 01:30:31.980 --> 01:30:38.460 than broadcasting. Find your audience, target it, reach it. Like it's just, it's not rocket science. 01:30:41.260 --> 01:30:47.020 Two hours and 30 minutes, one hour and 30 minutes, 90 minutes on the stream to 30 Eastern time. 01:30:47.820 --> 01:30:52.940 And I made it to number 25. I am like dripping in sweat. I know that's gross. You don't want to hear 01:30:52.940 --> 01:30:59.660 that, but like, it's been, it's been a hard work. I got the lights down. My coffee is cold. My salad 01:30:59.660 --> 01:31:10.620 is uneaten. Uh, maybe I'll eat that. I don't know that it's fresh anymore. The South, the salad dressing 01:31:10.620 --> 01:31:14.860 go bad like in two hours. I don't think so. Right. Like it should still be fresh. Am I going to, 01:31:14.860 --> 01:31:18.940 am I somebody put in chat? Am I going to get sick? If I eat this, it's been sitting out on, 01:31:18.940 --> 01:31:26.460 on the desk for a couple hours. Um, it's got, um, I don't know. It's not oil. It's something a little 01:31:26.460 --> 01:31:32.460 more creamy. And so the milk in there has got me a little worried. I'll figure it out. Um, 01:31:33.100 --> 01:31:36.940 food poisoning, the God-given diet. No, I'm kidding. Don't, don't, don't, 01:31:38.220 --> 01:31:45.180 Layton's going to clip that. That's going to go out there. 25. We have gone through 25 TCD promises 01:31:45.180 --> 01:31:51.260 for 2025. We're at the 25th right now. Oh my gosh. I'm so tempted to just, yeah, we'll do it. 01:31:51.260 --> 01:31:56.060 We'll just read off the list. Number one, more mind blowing concepts from the TCD team. Number two, 01:31:56.060 --> 01:32:00.940 more connection points. Number three, uh, new communities with new focus. Number four, 01:32:00.940 --> 01:32:08.060 new formats for EDM. Number five, new cohorts beyond EDM. Number six, outposts for everyone. 01:32:08.060 --> 01:32:12.940 Number seven, game time with Jeff. Number eight, resourcing, more resources, more streams, 01:32:12.940 --> 01:32:20.060 more voices than Jeff. Number nine, more open offices, more voices than Jeff. Number 10, uh, 01:32:20.060 --> 01:32:28.140 spanning the care of a digital missionary. Number 11, uh, reliant, uh, for financial support. Number 01:32:28.140 --> 01:32:36.140 12, more ongoing and growing support from missional partners and TCD central staff, central support. 01:32:36.140 --> 01:32:42.300 Number 13, tangible resourcing. We want to start helping you even if you're not in the network. 01:32:42.300 --> 01:32:49.420 Number 14, understanding of contextualization of places. Number 15, understanding contextualization 01:32:49.420 --> 01:32:55.100 of platforms. Number 16, we're doing an online conference spring 25. Number 17, we're doing an online 01:32:55.100 --> 01:33:01.740 conference fall 25. Number 18, did someone say gaming? Gaming outpost, opening soon. Number 19, 01:33:01.740 --> 01:33:09.740 gospel centric, centered. Number 20, prayer centric. Number 21, 20,000 gospel conversations in 25. Number 22, 01:33:09.740 --> 01:33:16.860 stats and stories centered around digital missionary work. Number 23, four town hall meetings in 25. Number 01:33:16.860 --> 01:33:27.180 24, another giving Tuesday live stream. Number 24 B, a 24 hour live stream in number 25. Well, 01:33:27.180 --> 01:33:34.060 having said all that, I'm sure there's going to be more changes and surprises. I'm sure. Yeah, I copped out on 25. 01:33:34.060 --> 01:33:42.220 Um, I, that's, that's what I do. I just make changes. And so you can pray for me. You can pray for the team 01:33:42.220 --> 01:33:49.100 that that's wrestling with this. Um, but there will be pivots, I'm sure along the way. So you can 01:33:49.100 --> 01:33:55.180 take that as a promise as, as we're going to wrap up. Y'all, I hope this was fun. I had, I had a 01:33:55.180 --> 01:34:02.620 I had a blast with it. Exciting. Um, we will edit out. I will, we'll maybe edit out. I'm not sure if 01:34:02.620 --> 01:34:08.940 we're going to, but, um, the, I will never play the soundtrack again. This has not been a pleasurable 01:34:08.940 --> 01:34:13.740 experience for me with this rattling around in my head. Uh, hopefully it has not been that bad for 01:34:13.740 --> 01:34:19.260 you listening to it. Uh, too heavy. I need something a little, little Chandler. This is why you should 01:34:19.260 --> 01:34:24.620 listen to stuff in advance. You should, you should test the waters before you, um, you know, roll something 01:34:24.620 --> 01:34:30.060 out, you know, tech check. I failed to tech check. To be honest, I was taking a nap when I should have 01:34:30.060 --> 01:34:36.220 been tech checking. My dog's asleep right over there on the, on the, the couch where I was asleep, 01:34:36.220 --> 01:34:43.180 like three hours ago. It was good though. It was good now. It's good coffee. Salad needs to, 01:34:43.180 --> 01:34:48.400 you know, get looked at. Hey y'all be praying in all seriousness, be praying for, uh, the church 01:34:48.400 --> 01:34:54.460 digital as we're praying for you heading into 25. I hope that, I hope that this time has been 01:34:54.460 --> 01:35:02.380 encouraging for you at the, um, at, at the inner level at that, just encouraging you to your core. 01:35:03.020 --> 01:35:09.180 Um, we want to be an encouragement for you, but more than just an advocacy group, 01:35:09.740 --> 01:35:16.300 we want to make a difference in the, in the life of your ministry. And so if there are ideas you have 01:35:16.300 --> 01:35:23.340 that were not listed in our 25 promises, uh, we want to hear from you, uh, chances are we'll do it in 25, 01:35:23.340 --> 01:35:28.940 if not 26, because in the end we want to see you succeed. So the next generations can succeed as well. 01:35:28.940 --> 01:35:34.620 And whether that's, um, equipping you, training you, or whether that's praying for you, uh, whether 01:35:34.620 --> 01:35:41.660 that's giving you the opportunity to come alongside someone for accountability. Um, we want to see 01:35:42.620 --> 01:35:50.140 God do incredible things through the ministry that he has called you to do. So I am going to take this 01:35:50.140 --> 01:35:56.060 moment. I'm going to pray and we are going to wrap heavenly father. God, thank you for this opportunity to, 01:35:57.180 --> 01:36:03.580 uh, to, to laugh, to talk, to share, uh, to cast vision and to pray for the road ahead. 01:36:03.580 --> 01:36:11.420 God, I pray that, um, that you would do something in us and through us in 25, bring us, uh, more 01:36:12.380 --> 01:36:19.500 awareness, uh, of our strengths and weaknesses, uh, give us the opportunity to, uh, stay in our lane, 01:36:19.500 --> 01:36:26.620 give us the opportunity to partner, connect with others, uh, to, um, to bring more attention to you. 01:36:26.620 --> 01:36:37.020 Um, God help be, be at the center of all that we are in, in our digital churches, in our digital ministry. 01:36:37.820 --> 01:36:44.700 So often it's easy to, to lose God inside of the work in front. I, I attest to that. I recognize that. 01:36:44.700 --> 01:36:52.860 I've lived that in my life, but God, I, I simply ask that you, uh, come alongside us, 01:36:53.420 --> 01:37:01.100 that you come in us and through us and that you are all, um, that we are, you are baked into 01:37:01.100 --> 01:37:07.180 everything that we are. God, we love you. Uh, thank you for what you've already done through us. 01:37:07.180 --> 01:37:11.820 We look forward to what you, you have for us very soon. In your name we pray. Amen. 01:37:12.460 --> 01:37:15.020 All right. That's a wrap. Thanks y'all. Have a good one. 01:37:23.420 --> 01:37:28.540 We'll see you next time.