WEBVTT 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:02.420 Welcome to the Church Digital Podcast. 00:00:03.380 --> 00:00:07.260 Through this podcast, we'll talk about the technological innovations within the church, 00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:11.080 but more than tech for tech itself, we'll address deeper questions. 00:00:11.700 --> 00:00:13.300 Is disciple-making possible digitally? 00:00:13.740 --> 00:00:15.760 How should we approach the digital mission field? 00:00:16.060 --> 00:00:18.620 Can a biblically grounded church operate in digital space? 00:00:19.060 --> 00:00:22.880 Oh, and where does the metaverse and artificial intelligence fit into all of this? 00:00:23.660 --> 00:00:25.840 Whether you're a big or small church, 00:00:25.840 --> 00:00:30.660 the Church Digital's goal is to help churches like yours learn to be a multiplying church, 00:00:31.040 --> 00:00:32.520 digitally and physically. 00:00:32.980 --> 00:00:34.680 And now here's your host, Jeff Reed. 00:00:34.980 --> 00:00:37.760 All right. Hey, I think this is actually working. My mic is up. 00:00:37.900 --> 00:00:39.340 Hey, you know what? We're going to go ahead and get started. 00:00:39.820 --> 00:00:44.220 Because I totally, I totally fat fingered that. 00:00:44.680 --> 00:00:46.920 Jason Morris jumped in the countdown. 00:00:47.400 --> 00:00:49.100 I clicked the wrong button. 00:00:49.480 --> 00:00:52.020 You know, I use Ecamm a lot. 00:00:52.900 --> 00:00:55.680 Yeah, Jason's now laughing at me because I can hear him, 00:00:55.680 --> 00:00:56.500 because I brought him on. 00:00:58.080 --> 00:01:00.100 Mute your mic. I can mute you over here, bro. 00:01:00.620 --> 00:01:01.900 I brought him on. 00:01:02.520 --> 00:01:04.900 I was trying to make sure I knew what button. 00:01:05.100 --> 00:01:08.520 But, you know, I use Ecamm a lot, but I don't use Ecamm to interview that much. 00:01:08.660 --> 00:01:11.180 It's been a minute since, giving Tuesday, I think, actually. 00:01:11.260 --> 00:01:11.720 It was the last time. 00:01:12.380 --> 00:01:14.320 And so, dude totally, like, brought him up on the scene, 00:01:14.440 --> 00:01:15.360 brought him up, but he's like, you know, 00:01:15.420 --> 00:01:16.920 thankfully wasn't picking his nose or something. 00:01:16.920 --> 00:01:24.260 And, hey, what a great start to the event here. 00:01:24.440 --> 00:01:26.100 Hey, we're doing the town hall. 00:01:26.320 --> 00:01:29.340 The first town hall, the Church Digital is doing in 2025. 00:01:29.860 --> 00:01:33.080 We do one of these probably every quarter or so, 00:01:33.580 --> 00:01:37.760 really trying to, hey, we want to listen to you first off. 00:01:38.100 --> 00:01:42.800 But more than that, we want to learn what's working, what's not working. 00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:49.520 But then also, we want to talk about how we can help you do better ministry, 00:01:49.780 --> 00:01:51.500 be more effective in what you're doing. 00:01:51.820 --> 00:01:56.020 And so there's a really fascinating conversation happening right now in chat. 00:01:56.740 --> 00:02:01.100 Steve, my brother from another mother, what genre of music would you call this? 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:03.260 Steve, this is lo-fi. 00:02:03.840 --> 00:02:06.120 I think someone is educating him in the process. 00:02:06.300 --> 00:02:08.460 I'm seeing Simon Dirks is checking in. 00:02:08.520 --> 00:02:12.380 Hey there, greetings from the other continent, the continent of Europe. 00:02:12.920 --> 00:02:14.100 Glad to see this. 00:02:14.640 --> 00:02:19.280 Andy Mage, jumping in, we call this lo-fi. 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:19.880 Thank you, Andy. 00:02:20.320 --> 00:02:26.280 Lo-fi is, I named my new car Lo-fi Lola, as a matter of fact. 00:02:26.440 --> 00:02:28.060 I love lo-fi. 00:02:28.480 --> 00:02:29.760 My daughter loves lo-fi. 00:02:30.340 --> 00:02:33.900 My wife hates it with the intensity of a thousand suns. 00:02:34.320 --> 00:02:37.080 She actually banned lo-fi for the holidays. 00:02:37.600 --> 00:02:41.140 True story, we were not allowed to listen to lo-fi music. 00:02:41.460 --> 00:02:43.640 We actually had a lo-fi Christmas playlist. 00:02:44.040 --> 00:02:45.900 It was just cycling over and over in iTunes. 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:47.820 My wife's like, no, that's enough. 00:02:47.880 --> 00:02:48.220 We're good. 00:02:49.180 --> 00:02:53.280 And so, yeah, Melanie's saying hi, which is a lot of fun there, too. 00:02:54.120 --> 00:02:58.020 Steve, coming back in, lo-fi music is a genre of music 00:02:58.020 --> 00:03:01.220 that deliberately incorporates elements of imperfection. 00:03:02.220 --> 00:03:02.380 Yeah. 00:03:03.300 --> 00:03:03.520 Yeah. 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:05.640 Listen, it's interesting. 00:03:05.720 --> 00:03:07.200 That's a really interesting philosophy there. 00:03:08.480 --> 00:03:09.380 Perfection's a limiter. 00:03:09.460 --> 00:03:10.220 Perfection's a lid. 00:03:11.620 --> 00:03:13.120 You know, it's Gitmo. 00:03:13.280 --> 00:03:16.040 Good enough to move on. 00:03:16.620 --> 00:03:18.720 Micah Bale's jumping on here. 00:03:19.860 --> 00:03:23.320 A.K.A. Chills Beats to study to, definitely. 00:03:23.540 --> 00:03:26.040 I would have done better in college had I had this. 00:03:26.440 --> 00:03:28.280 By the way, Star Wars lo-fi is pretty legit. 00:03:29.640 --> 00:03:30.800 That's news to me. 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:32.900 I'll have to look into that. 00:03:33.260 --> 00:03:36.920 I mean, and to be honest, it's not that far away from the cantina music anyway, right? 00:03:37.340 --> 00:03:38.260 That's kind of there. 00:03:38.780 --> 00:03:39.860 Tom jumping on. 00:03:40.060 --> 00:03:40.940 What's up, family? 00:03:41.080 --> 00:03:45.020 Tall, skinny Kiwi from New Zealand saying hi from New Zealand. 00:03:45.460 --> 00:03:47.520 That background music is really loud. 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:49.460 Man, everybody's telling me to turn it down. 00:03:49.920 --> 00:03:51.060 Bible with the battles. 00:03:51.860 --> 00:03:52.580 Doing it, too. 00:03:52.920 --> 00:03:53.600 You know, fine. 00:03:53.760 --> 00:03:56.860 I'll just, like, take it almost out. 00:03:57.000 --> 00:03:57.560 Okay, we happy? 00:03:58.760 --> 00:04:00.720 I'm not happy because I like my music. 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:01.300 But that's fine. 00:04:01.380 --> 00:04:01.760 That's fine. 00:04:02.080 --> 00:04:05.800 Whatever I need to do for you people is where we are. 00:04:05.860 --> 00:04:06.420 So, hey, listen. 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:09.160 We're going to pivot and dive into this. 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:11.060 Stacey is saying let's do this. 00:04:11.100 --> 00:04:11.560 And she's right. 00:04:11.640 --> 00:04:14.640 So, let's go and get started here with the town hall. 00:04:14.920 --> 00:04:16.240 Now, I'm going to be honest. 00:04:17.460 --> 00:04:19.300 This is an interactive show. 00:04:19.760 --> 00:04:25.760 If you all don't talk to me, it's going to be a long, boring couple hours. 00:04:25.960 --> 00:04:28.100 Anish coming in from the West Coast. 00:04:28.660 --> 00:04:29.360 Hi, all. 00:04:29.480 --> 00:04:29.800 Love that. 00:04:29.860 --> 00:04:30.680 Anish, great to see you. 00:04:31.340 --> 00:04:32.560 Here's what I need you to do. 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:35.740 Zap that QR code with your phone. 00:04:35.900 --> 00:04:36.860 Open up a new web browser. 00:04:36.960 --> 00:04:38.240 Go to menti.com. 00:04:38.720 --> 00:04:41.200 And type in the numbers, whatever it is. 00:04:41.300 --> 00:04:46.400 I need you to engage with me here. 00:04:46.440 --> 00:04:47.940 Because I want to ask some questions. 00:04:48.060 --> 00:04:49.240 I want to get some interactions from you. 00:04:49.400 --> 00:04:50.320 This is a town hall meeting. 00:04:50.720 --> 00:04:52.200 This is a dialogue. 00:04:52.460 --> 00:04:53.660 This is a two-way conversation. 00:04:54.100 --> 00:04:59.060 And I want to hear from you on the screen as we're going through this. 00:04:59.140 --> 00:05:00.600 Menti.com. 00:05:00.800 --> 00:05:06.100 You can type in the number there or use the QR code that's on the screen. 00:05:06.100 --> 00:05:07.720 And that would be great. 00:05:08.320 --> 00:05:17.940 By the way, Melanie, maybe this is why YouTube sends me to Coffeehouse Jazz when you're... 00:05:17.940 --> 00:05:21.940 Maybe, maybe I could totally see that being the logic of this. 00:05:22.240 --> 00:05:28.940 You all should right now be frantically typing on those keyboards to get logged into Menti. 00:05:29.080 --> 00:05:33.440 And so if you are not logging into Menti at this moment, yo, let's go. 00:05:33.540 --> 00:05:35.060 Get logged into Menti. 00:05:35.060 --> 00:05:38.780 Because here's the first question that I want to hear from you. 00:05:39.080 --> 00:05:40.180 Where are you from? 00:05:40.540 --> 00:05:41.740 We've already talked about Europe. 00:05:41.900 --> 00:05:43.460 We've already talked about New Zealand. 00:05:44.100 --> 00:05:45.840 I want to see on the screen. 00:05:45.940 --> 00:05:46.420 Go ahead. 00:05:46.520 --> 00:05:50.280 If you're logged into Menti, you should see the map on there. 00:05:50.740 --> 00:05:52.840 Select on there where you're from. 00:05:53.380 --> 00:05:56.040 And we should start seeing any minute now. 00:05:56.240 --> 00:05:58.680 Some of these opportunities start to pop up. 00:05:59.300 --> 00:06:00.900 Yeah, we're seeing some of that come in. 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:02.280 Excited to see that. 00:06:02.700 --> 00:06:04.940 Yes, it's a weird-looking map. 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:08.700 The copyrights are a little unique centered around maps. 00:06:08.880 --> 00:06:11.900 Like, you can't, like, put a map of the world on there. 00:06:12.420 --> 00:06:14.840 But you can do a photo of the map of the world. 00:06:15.520 --> 00:06:16.120 Crazy, right? 00:06:16.180 --> 00:06:17.480 A photo of a map is a good thing. 00:06:17.540 --> 00:06:18.720 So get kind of a little creative. 00:06:19.300 --> 00:06:23.380 Let's start to see some of my Menti friends jump on here. 00:06:23.820 --> 00:06:24.600 Where are you from? 00:06:25.040 --> 00:06:28.640 I love that we're even across just America. 00:06:28.640 --> 00:06:30.900 I know we're bigger than just America. 00:06:30.900 --> 00:06:34.660 But I love to see that happen. 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:37.300 By the way, you know, Jason Morris here. 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:38.600 It's a digital map. 00:06:38.760 --> 00:06:39.400 TCD it up. 00:06:39.440 --> 00:06:39.940 Yeah, you're right. 00:06:40.380 --> 00:06:51.960 I actually, one of the things that we're going to talk about in here, you know, somebody suggested to me the other day that the Metaverse is the eighth continent. 00:06:53.700 --> 00:06:55.740 I kind of like that. 00:06:55.880 --> 00:06:59.160 I like the idea of the continent of the Metaverse. 00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:01.840 Yes, the Metaverse is over everything. 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:06.320 Maybe some people would actually consider the Metaverse another planet. 00:07:06.820 --> 00:07:11.260 Like, it's like a Mars floating around almost above, superseding everything. 00:07:12.120 --> 00:07:14.160 I know we've got some global friends on here. 00:07:14.240 --> 00:07:16.560 By the way, global friends, you need to get on Menti as well. 00:07:16.660 --> 00:07:22.240 In fairness, this is a U.S. broadcast time zone just because of the times of it. 00:07:22.680 --> 00:07:25.980 And I'm sure our global friends will engage here on demand. 00:07:25.980 --> 00:07:28.800 By the way, we're going to leave Menti open on demand. 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:32.240 So, feel free to engage and dive into it. 00:07:32.460 --> 00:07:35.520 By the way, oh my gosh, Sunny. 00:07:35.980 --> 00:07:37.600 Sunny, I sent you an email earlier today. 00:07:37.780 --> 00:07:38.360 I hope things are well. 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:40.960 Snow, where's that lo-fi? 00:07:41.620 --> 00:07:45.040 Maybe secretly notch one volume up at some point. 00:07:45.920 --> 00:07:47.400 Sunny likes her lo-fi. 00:07:47.680 --> 00:07:48.260 That's good. 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:51.320 Sunny, I'll be subtle here as we're running into this. 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:52.480 Let's get into some more questions. 00:07:52.640 --> 00:07:53.980 We got to go, we got to go, we got to go. 00:07:54.520 --> 00:07:57.920 Biggest challenge in digital missionary work today. 00:07:58.180 --> 00:07:59.060 Biggest challenge. 00:07:59.720 --> 00:08:00.900 What's facing you right now? 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:02.500 Please don't give me an essay. 00:08:03.080 --> 00:08:03.640 Keep it short. 00:08:03.740 --> 00:08:04.400 Keep it simple. 00:08:04.980 --> 00:08:06.220 Want to hear from you. 00:08:06.280 --> 00:08:14.780 What's the biggest challenges you're facing in digital missionary, in digital missions, in digital ministry, in digital church? 00:08:15.100 --> 00:08:17.800 Whatever your context is, virtual, like what is it? 00:08:17.980 --> 00:08:20.580 I want to start to see some of that pop up on the screen. 00:08:21.320 --> 00:08:23.920 You know, there's like eight seconds delay here. 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:25.320 And so, it's funny. 00:08:25.420 --> 00:08:29.520 I'm watching actually Jason Morris on the screen and he looks deep in thought. 00:08:29.620 --> 00:08:33.020 He's very pensive about how to answer that question. 00:08:33.100 --> 00:08:34.460 But some of it's starting to come up. 00:08:34.540 --> 00:08:36.180 And oh my gosh, that is tiny print. 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:37.660 I did not plan this well. 00:08:40.540 --> 00:08:41.920 Seriously, I can't read that right now. 00:08:41.940 --> 00:08:42.240 Hold on. 00:08:42.340 --> 00:08:42.620 Hold on. 00:08:42.700 --> 00:08:42.960 Hold on. 00:08:43.020 --> 00:08:43.480 There we go. 00:08:44.500 --> 00:08:44.900 Finances. 00:08:46.500 --> 00:08:48.340 Mentoring and developing leaders. 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:51.680 Training and environment. 00:08:53.320 --> 00:08:55.040 Schedule when global. 00:08:55.160 --> 00:08:56.440 Yeah, how to schedule stuff in global. 00:08:57.280 --> 00:09:00.000 Reaching ladies to join online. 00:09:00.140 --> 00:09:00.700 It's interesting. 00:09:00.800 --> 00:09:04.040 There's not a lot of women in digital ministry. 00:09:04.060 --> 00:09:07.420 We're going to be talking about that, the Church Digital Podcast soon. 00:09:08.020 --> 00:09:12.280 Like that's, I mean, I don't want to say that's a crying, I know it is a crying shame. 00:09:12.360 --> 00:09:15.600 But we've got to figure out how to overcome that. 00:09:15.660 --> 00:09:17.920 What else do we have here on the screen? 00:09:20.380 --> 00:09:22.480 Time for relationship building. 00:09:23.360 --> 00:09:24.800 Oh my gosh, that one's covered up. 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:25.440 I can't read it. 00:09:25.640 --> 00:09:27.740 Let me see if I can figure out how to make that go away. 00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:30.080 Show joining instructions and QR code. 00:09:30.180 --> 00:09:30.460 Yes. 00:09:31.560 --> 00:09:32.700 Broadcast versus community. 00:09:34.400 --> 00:09:35.120 Good call. 00:09:36.120 --> 00:09:38.760 The tension between broadcast and community. 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:40.560 Branding and marketing. 00:09:40.720 --> 00:09:42.480 Help with the top of the funnel. 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:44.980 How to connect and how to community. 00:09:45.060 --> 00:09:46.480 We're going to get more into that here in a little bit. 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:48.400 Content creation and analytics. 00:09:48.520 --> 00:09:49.420 How are you being successful? 00:09:49.900 --> 00:09:53.200 We talk about, actually we're talking about that right now with equipping digital missionaries. 00:09:53.540 --> 00:09:54.440 How do we measure success? 00:09:54.700 --> 00:09:57.600 My cohort's actually in two hours, an hour and a half. 00:09:57.680 --> 00:09:59.300 So coming up here right around the corner. 00:09:59.300 --> 00:10:02.700 We don't understand IRL ecclesiology. 00:10:10.180 --> 00:10:11.400 No comments. 00:10:11.780 --> 00:10:12.440 No comments. 00:10:13.380 --> 00:10:16.300 It's different strategies to reach different types of people. 00:10:16.860 --> 00:10:18.880 IRL and online. 00:10:19.040 --> 00:10:20.380 By the way, it was funny. 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:21.540 Actually, I made this comment. 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:23.120 I made this comment to Sunny. 00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:32.920 She's doing a research project and was wrestling with the buildings and virtual reality. 00:10:32.960 --> 00:10:34.940 She's doing a research project on virtual reality churches. 00:10:35.500 --> 00:10:38.520 And I told her, I don't say IRL anymore. 00:10:38.660 --> 00:10:39.220 I can't. 00:10:39.960 --> 00:10:47.060 Because IRL implies that physical reality is real, but it also implies that virtual reality is not real. 00:10:47.540 --> 00:10:48.960 Virtual reality is real. 00:10:49.620 --> 00:10:53.000 And so to say that one is real implies that one is not. 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:57.600 And so IRL is no longer in my vernacular. 00:10:57.740 --> 00:11:03.300 Actually, I think I talked about it in my book and you don't actually find it in references since then. 00:11:03.820 --> 00:11:04.080 Okay. 00:11:04.460 --> 00:11:09.240 Finding unique ways to engage your time online. 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:10.560 Let's pivot on. 00:11:10.900 --> 00:11:12.180 Let's go to the next question. 00:11:12.600 --> 00:11:14.320 What does the Church Digital do well? 00:11:14.760 --> 00:11:18.240 What does the Church Digital do well? 00:11:18.520 --> 00:11:20.240 I'm excited to see this. 00:11:20.980 --> 00:11:26.120 Hopefully nobody says nothing because we want to essentially do something. 00:11:26.280 --> 00:11:27.620 I hope we're doing something good. 00:11:29.620 --> 00:11:32.540 When are we going to do a town hall in VR? 00:11:33.300 --> 00:11:35.020 That coming in right now from Micah. 00:11:38.520 --> 00:11:39.660 Stay tuned. 00:11:39.660 --> 00:11:41.120 Did you see my slide deck? 00:11:41.300 --> 00:11:43.860 Did my slide deck leak on this? 00:11:44.140 --> 00:11:44.600 No, I'm kidding. 00:11:45.060 --> 00:11:45.980 I may be kidding. 00:11:46.140 --> 00:11:46.860 I'm not sure if I'm kidding. 00:11:47.260 --> 00:11:47.840 Hang around, Micah. 00:11:48.040 --> 00:11:49.380 You won't be surprised. 00:11:49.840 --> 00:11:51.520 Bringing together the world. 00:11:52.640 --> 00:11:56.800 It's exciting to me that we've got, you know, even just across the U.S., that's a win. 00:11:57.200 --> 00:11:58.380 Uniting a country together. 00:11:58.380 --> 00:12:03.300 We're now starting to bring in some of the other countries to their influence. 00:12:03.560 --> 00:12:03.960 Communicating. 00:12:04.440 --> 00:12:05.260 Hopefully training. 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:06.900 Yeah, I know that. 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:08.520 Sonny's giving a thumbs up. 00:12:08.660 --> 00:12:08.940 Welcome. 00:12:09.140 --> 00:12:09.920 One-on-ones. 00:12:10.720 --> 00:12:11.160 Connecting. 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:13.820 Yeah, I think we do do a good job connecting up top. 00:12:14.260 --> 00:12:19.280 And the challenge is maybe to not just be at the connection level, but to dig down deeper. 00:12:19.380 --> 00:12:20.460 Bringing together the world. 00:12:21.240 --> 00:12:21.800 Networking. 00:12:22.680 --> 00:12:25.420 It is so exciting to me. 00:12:25.480 --> 00:12:31.500 I had another conversation today with a potential ministry partner that we're thinking about bringing on. 00:12:32.040 --> 00:12:33.920 And they're in South Africa. 00:12:34.880 --> 00:12:37.160 Like, it's not a U.S.-based organization. 00:12:37.540 --> 00:12:39.200 South African organization entirely. 00:12:39.900 --> 00:12:49.000 And, I mean, within, I told my story, and then they started talking, and about three minutes into them talking, it was like, it was a match made in heaven. 00:12:49.540 --> 00:12:50.980 It was like, it was perfect. 00:12:51.180 --> 00:12:52.040 It was kismet. 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:52.980 I don't know if you know what kismet is. 00:12:53.280 --> 00:12:56.420 It was like there was lo-fi music playing in the sky. 00:12:56.860 --> 00:12:58.660 Like, it was just this beautiful moment. 00:12:58.700 --> 00:12:59.600 It was like, oh, yeah. 00:12:59.980 --> 00:13:01.100 We're going to work together. 00:13:01.100 --> 00:13:04.560 And there's just so much possibility. 00:13:05.300 --> 00:13:07.060 And that's what, it's exciting to me. 00:13:07.880 --> 00:13:10.480 Like, you know, at least I feel this tension in the U.S. 00:13:10.560 --> 00:13:13.280 I feel this tension in the U.S. where it's like nothing works together. 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:18.200 But there's an opportunity to do something different, to reach someone different. 00:13:18.340 --> 00:13:22.580 And what's happening right now is that people are recognizing that. 00:13:22.700 --> 00:13:24.820 Exposure is good with that, too. 00:13:25.180 --> 00:13:28.000 Onboarding, hopefully that's even going to get better. 00:13:28.140 --> 00:13:30.260 And that touching base is so good. 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:36.560 Jason Moore is saying right here, when we have Jesus, we have more in common than all our 00:13:36.560 --> 00:13:38.560 other differences combined. 00:13:38.720 --> 00:13:41.320 That's a line from Anne Bosarge. 00:13:41.460 --> 00:13:45.920 Almost, you know, when in doubt preach Jesus, Jesus multiplies. 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:47.000 Jesus is scalable. 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:50.520 Like, you know, the theological and the practical differences. 00:13:50.660 --> 00:13:51.900 No, it's all about Jesus. 00:13:51.980 --> 00:13:52.520 That's so good. 00:13:53.060 --> 00:13:57.420 I pray that what the church digital well is, is Jesus. 00:13:58.120 --> 00:13:59.240 Well, let's do this. 00:13:59.300 --> 00:14:01.020 By the way, keep on Minty. 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:03.920 I'm going to come back to Minty here in a little bit as we get more into this. 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:05.260 Let's talk about this. 00:14:05.800 --> 00:14:07.220 What is the church digital? 00:14:07.800 --> 00:14:10.620 What the church digital does not do well. 00:14:11.260 --> 00:14:15.560 And this is going to be open confession hour from Jeffrey, founder of the church digital. 00:14:15.760 --> 00:14:17.980 What the church digital does not do well. 00:14:18.400 --> 00:14:20.400 Well, I'll give you a hint. 00:14:21.000 --> 00:14:24.920 This TV show is from community, a USB TV show. 00:14:25.740 --> 00:14:26.740 Hilarious, by the way. 00:14:27.580 --> 00:14:29.480 But I feel like we do community well. 00:14:29.900 --> 00:14:32.140 That's not what I'm hinting at by doing this. 00:14:32.400 --> 00:14:36.680 I would say that that prayer has been a struggle. 00:14:37.220 --> 00:14:41.740 Now, I'm going to be like, this is completely open, honest, transparent, Jeff, in this moment 00:14:41.740 --> 00:14:42.340 right now. 00:14:43.540 --> 00:14:46.220 Like, I'm a strategy guy. 00:14:47.400 --> 00:14:49.000 I'm a get it done guy. 00:14:49.100 --> 00:14:49.740 I'm a doer. 00:14:49.840 --> 00:14:50.460 I'm an explorer. 00:14:50.660 --> 00:14:51.360 I'm a driver. 00:14:51.840 --> 00:14:53.140 I'm an experimenter. 00:14:54.220 --> 00:15:00.660 And oftentimes, when crap pops up, prayer is not my default. 00:15:01.660 --> 00:15:03.160 Prayer is not my first step. 00:15:03.900 --> 00:15:08.260 And so as a result of that, you know, honestly, and I've been challenged by that, you know, 00:15:08.280 --> 00:15:16.060 even this year, like I'm leading out of this place of drive and not out of brokenness, 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:20.540 not out of prayer, not out of prayer centric or even gospel centered. 00:15:20.540 --> 00:15:26.320 And so as a leader in the organization, we're actually stepping back. 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:30.340 And I want to invite you at a global scale. 00:15:30.540 --> 00:15:30.860 You're right. 00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:32.980 And Steve says here, begin with prayer. 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:36.720 Steve's been reading the book, you know, sharing Jesus online. 00:15:37.020 --> 00:15:38.280 Begin with prayer up front. 00:15:38.420 --> 00:15:40.080 Melanie is doing the hands. 00:15:40.160 --> 00:15:46.940 Like, that's, this is crucial for where we're going, which is why we're leaning towards Luke 00:15:46.940 --> 00:15:51.220 10 to the harvest is plentiful, but the workers are few. 00:15:52.020 --> 00:15:57.340 Ask the Lord of the harvest, therefore, to send out his workers into the harvest field. 00:15:57.800 --> 00:16:14.140 Now let's just imply, let's just apply this verse into our digital ministry, into what we're doing. 00:16:14.580 --> 00:16:26.900 I cannot think of a better story, a better line for digital than the harvest is plentiful, but the workers are few. 00:16:27.620 --> 00:16:30.180 Like, we've talked about this in digital and metaverse. 00:16:30.300 --> 00:16:31.500 We said this at Lausanne. 00:16:31.760 --> 00:16:35.120 It was one of the largest unreached people groups. 00:16:35.740 --> 00:16:41.960 And Jason and I were in Korea having conversations with hundreds of missionaries who were all grinning ear for ear. 00:16:42.180 --> 00:16:57.120 Literally, I watched men cry at the idea of being trained to be a digital missionary because people are recognizing the harvest, the potential harvest in the digital and the virtual in the metaverse spaces. 00:16:57.660 --> 00:16:59.300 The harvest is plentiful, right? 00:17:00.340 --> 00:17:01.360 But the workers are few. 00:17:02.160 --> 00:17:07.840 And that's what we're trying to do with the church digital is to challenge people like you to do the ministry that you're doing. 00:17:07.840 --> 00:17:15.720 And so it's up to us to ask the Lord of the harvest, therefore, to send out workers into his harvest field. 00:17:16.620 --> 00:17:17.620 And so this is what we're doing. 00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:21.220 And I want to invite you all to be a part of this. 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:26.360 We're starting a 1002 campaign with the church digital. 00:17:27.660 --> 00:17:32.480 I've actually been doing this for a couple of weeks now, just in building up for it. 00:17:32.860 --> 00:17:35.360 I've got on my phone right here. 00:17:35.360 --> 00:17:40.500 I've got on my phone an alarm that goes off at 1002 a.m. 00:17:41.300 --> 00:17:42.960 1002 a.m. every day. 00:17:44.900 --> 00:17:46.020 Embarrassingly, I'll say this. 00:17:46.140 --> 00:17:51.340 It's MC Hammer's Pray is the ringtone that comes up when 1002 comes around. 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:53.660 And it just reminds me in that moment. 00:17:53.740 --> 00:17:54.700 Yes, MC Hammer's Pray. 00:17:54.800 --> 00:17:55.540 You can at me. 00:17:55.600 --> 00:17:55.920 Go ahead. 00:17:56.140 --> 00:18:00.820 But it reminds me in that moment to stop and to pray. 00:18:01.480 --> 00:18:06.420 Number one, there's the challenge to pray for the mission field. 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:12.680 Pray for those that can be reached in digital, in metaverse and virtual spaces. 00:18:14.020 --> 00:18:17.120 1002 Luke 10.2 calls us to pray for the mission field. 00:18:17.560 --> 00:18:22.600 But more than that, it calls us to pray for the workers that are managing the harvest. 00:18:23.500 --> 00:18:28.820 And so I want to challenge all of you to set an alarm on your phones and at 1002 a.m. 00:18:29.060 --> 00:18:37.220 To stop and to pray for the digital mission field and those that are working the harvest. 00:18:37.340 --> 00:18:41.160 Pray for the harvest field and pray for those that are working the harvest. 00:18:42.620 --> 00:18:43.880 Here's what I want you to do. 00:18:43.980 --> 00:18:47.500 And by the way, like you can see it right here, 1002, excited about that. 00:18:47.600 --> 00:18:48.220 Stop and pray. 00:18:48.780 --> 00:18:49.080 Stop. 00:18:49.220 --> 00:18:53.800 Listen, I've done it where I've literally stopped meetings when my phone goes off and 00:18:53.800 --> 00:18:57.020 have said, hey, can we stop and pray for that? 00:18:57.120 --> 00:18:57.720 Is that OK? 00:18:58.280 --> 00:19:02.080 Like you're walking, stop and pray, listening to your iPhones. 00:19:02.260 --> 00:19:04.280 You're in a meeting, invite people to come in. 00:19:04.540 --> 00:19:05.220 You're driving. 00:19:05.520 --> 00:19:07.860 OK, don't close your eyes if you're driving at 1002. 00:19:08.160 --> 00:19:11.160 Keep them open unless you got, you know, the AI Tesla thing. 00:19:11.760 --> 00:19:15.340 Not still engage in prayer. 00:19:16.260 --> 00:19:24.180 It's a cause to stop and invite all of us to pray intentionally towards the digital mission 00:19:24.180 --> 00:19:26.740 field and the workers that are in place. 00:19:27.700 --> 00:19:29.640 By the way, all this is. 00:19:30.660 --> 00:19:33.160 And let me ask, go ahead and do this now with love. 00:19:33.680 --> 00:19:38.580 You know, as we're talking about praying for the mission field, you all are on the front 00:19:38.580 --> 00:19:38.920 lines. 00:19:38.920 --> 00:19:43.520 You are the missionaries that we want to pray for you and you and your friends and your 00:19:43.520 --> 00:19:48.940 compatriots and your, you know, whatever the the term is, the people in this space, you 00:19:48.940 --> 00:19:49.580 all need prayer. 00:19:50.380 --> 00:19:52.540 So how can we how can the church digital? 00:19:52.660 --> 00:19:53.620 How can our prayer team? 00:19:54.080 --> 00:19:59.940 How can we as an organization, how can we as individuals pray for you right now? 00:20:00.040 --> 00:20:02.940 Go ahead and hit that in in Minty. 00:20:03.280 --> 00:20:05.320 Would love to to hear from you. 00:20:05.460 --> 00:20:10.900 If you are now jumping on for the first time, go ahead and click on the QR code or, you know, 00:20:10.940 --> 00:20:16.020 zap the QR code with your phone or there's instructions up at the top to join on. 00:20:16.100 --> 00:20:19.660 Would love to continue to hear from you as we're doing this. 00:20:19.660 --> 00:20:23.080 There's some other interaction points, but how can we be praying for you? 00:20:29.860 --> 00:20:31.100 It's a hard question, right? 00:20:37.980 --> 00:20:40.600 Tell you, I was kind of hoping for a little more interaction than this. 00:20:43.400 --> 00:20:45.020 I'll give about 30 more seconds. 00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:45.640 Finances. 00:20:45.820 --> 00:20:46.120 It's funny. 00:20:46.260 --> 00:20:48.160 Finances blows up big on the screen. 00:20:48.820 --> 00:20:49.440 Money's hard. 00:20:51.940 --> 00:20:53.040 God's bigger than money. 00:20:54.160 --> 00:20:55.200 Ministry's bigger than money. 00:20:55.400 --> 00:21:01.100 I said recently in a video, money is this is is not an excuse to do the ministry. 00:21:01.200 --> 00:21:02.480 May we do the will of God. 00:21:02.920 --> 00:21:08.360 Ears to hear discernment, patience, discernment, patience, endurance, patience coming up a couple 00:21:08.360 --> 00:21:15.100 times, job security, wisdom, yeah, discernment seems to be a pattern here. 00:21:15.680 --> 00:21:17.960 Pray for your digital community, marriage challenges. 00:21:21.100 --> 00:21:22.640 Digital mission work is hard. 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:27.820 And let me tell you from someone who, like, honestly, I'll say this almost lost his marriage 00:21:27.820 --> 00:21:31.420 as of the result of the work and some of the things. 00:21:32.580 --> 00:21:35.860 God's not happy if you lose your marriage as a result of ministry. 00:21:36.260 --> 00:21:39.840 That is not the idea of ministry to affect your marriage. 00:21:39.940 --> 00:21:44.340 So I feel the pain of that. 00:21:44.460 --> 00:21:46.840 By the way, we've got some some new people coming on. 00:21:47.420 --> 00:21:49.220 Will, greetings from Latvia. 00:21:49.760 --> 00:21:50.140 Awesome. 00:21:50.320 --> 00:21:50.960 Love that. 00:21:51.200 --> 00:21:57.280 And so and also we've got our friend Yatope coming on from Nigeria. 00:21:57.580 --> 00:22:00.020 So we're extending out that global reach. 00:22:00.120 --> 00:22:01.020 It's great to see you guys. 00:22:01.120 --> 00:22:02.720 Thanks for thanks for jumping in. 00:22:03.060 --> 00:22:03.700 So let's dig in. 00:22:03.780 --> 00:22:06.060 Hey, here's what we're doing with this prayer initiative. 00:22:06.660 --> 00:22:13.500 If you're signing up, if you're interested in making a commitment to pray at 10.02 a.m. 00:22:13.960 --> 00:22:14.440 every day. 00:22:14.800 --> 00:22:16.020 OK, listen, I skip Sundays. 00:22:16.120 --> 00:22:16.600 That's embarrassing. 00:22:16.600 --> 00:22:22.880 But I'm in church 10.02 and I don't want MC Hammer's like, you know, anthem pray playing 00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:24.800 out on my phone in the middle of like a church service. 00:22:25.020 --> 00:22:28.120 But, you know, I stop and pray as when I can that day. 00:22:28.320 --> 00:22:32.360 But if you want to make a commitment to pray with us daily, churches and maybe even start 00:22:32.360 --> 00:22:37.720 to interact with prayer requests that are coming in from the mission field, the church.digital 00:22:37.720 --> 00:22:39.240 slash pray. 00:22:39.380 --> 00:22:42.800 There's resources that that will send you via email. 00:22:42.940 --> 00:22:43.060 Yeah. 00:22:43.120 --> 00:22:44.540 You don't remember what email is. 00:22:45.060 --> 00:22:46.780 There's a platform. 00:22:46.900 --> 00:22:50.120 So we want to get you connected with called Seedling, where we're getting a bunch of our 00:22:50.120 --> 00:22:50.600 prayer requests. 00:22:50.840 --> 00:22:53.880 There's even an opportunity at the church.digital slash pray. 00:22:54.120 --> 00:22:57.700 Maybe you don't want to make the commitment to pray, but you want to share prayer requests. 00:22:57.920 --> 00:23:02.780 There's a link to our Seedling platform at that, the church.digital slash pray. 00:23:03.020 --> 00:23:11.880 And so this is a great opportunity to connect with people and to pray for them and to engage 00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:15.380 in even answering the prayer requests that come in. 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:19.100 So the church.digital slash pray. 00:23:19.320 --> 00:23:20.160 But you know what? 00:23:20.940 --> 00:23:23.240 We're not done with that. 00:23:23.320 --> 00:23:27.300 That was one of the announcements, but that's just one of them that's coming up. 00:23:27.340 --> 00:23:30.300 And so we've got more prayer coming up. 00:23:30.300 --> 00:23:37.280 And so to do this, I'm going to bring on my friend Stacy, and hopefully, hopefully I'm going 00:23:37.280 --> 00:23:38.400 to push the right button here. 00:23:38.480 --> 00:23:38.780 Stacy. 00:23:40.320 --> 00:23:40.720 Stacy! 00:23:41.860 --> 00:23:42.300 Hey! 00:23:42.760 --> 00:23:43.840 Hey, how you doing, Stacy? 00:23:43.840 --> 00:23:44.040 You see me? 00:23:44.660 --> 00:23:46.000 Good to see you. 00:23:46.220 --> 00:23:49.760 Yeah, Stacy is, some of you may not know Stacy. 00:23:49.960 --> 00:23:50.980 Crank her up a little bit. 00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:55.660 Stacy is the, actually, we just came up with her title today. 00:23:55.760 --> 00:24:01.000 She is the chaplain of the Church Digital, and so we're excited to have Stacy on board. 00:24:01.720 --> 00:24:10.280 She's been doing a lot of work with us in mental health and in trying to make sure that 00:24:10.280 --> 00:24:12.920 our missionaries are healthy and stable. 00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:17.760 And so it's been, honestly, it's been a pleasure working with her a little bit as the kid just 00:24:17.760 --> 00:24:20.660 kind of weighs back and forth in the background there. 00:24:21.520 --> 00:24:25.300 I've always loved this, Jeff, and so let's move on. 00:24:26.100 --> 00:24:26.540 Hey, you know what? 00:24:26.540 --> 00:24:28.000 I don't have time for that one, unfortunately. 00:24:28.540 --> 00:24:33.380 Stacy, let's talk a little bit about guided prayer, because I know this is something that 00:24:33.380 --> 00:24:34.620 you're passionate about. 00:24:35.140 --> 00:24:36.960 So maybe share a little bit of your story here. 00:24:38.200 --> 00:24:45.180 Yeah, I've always really thoroughly, not just enjoyed, but connecting prayer, not just myself, 00:24:45.360 --> 00:24:47.040 but in a community of prayer. 00:24:47.100 --> 00:24:53.960 And I think that is vital when we establish, especially the foundation of our community 00:24:53.960 --> 00:24:55.720 now with TCD. 00:24:56.260 --> 00:24:58.240 So I'm excited. 00:24:58.460 --> 00:25:01.120 It's guided prayer that we will be hosting. 00:25:01.540 --> 00:25:07.000 I'll be hosting every other Wednesday starting tomorrow. 00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:13.740 Tomorrow at 7.30 Pacific time, 7.30 Pacific time. 00:25:14.060 --> 00:25:15.240 So yeah, flat cap. 00:25:15.340 --> 00:25:15.680 Love it. 00:25:15.800 --> 00:25:16.140 Love it. 00:25:16.260 --> 00:25:16.940 Guided prayer. 00:25:17.300 --> 00:25:23.400 You know, what that means is when we talk about guided prayer, it is bringing a topic, 00:25:23.620 --> 00:25:27.380 subject, or even a liturgy or a written out prayer. 00:25:27.740 --> 00:25:33.940 And then all of us individually who are in there, we'll have a time of silence. 00:25:34.220 --> 00:25:40.040 And then perhaps, you know, God's leading you to pray out loud in agreement of what we're 00:25:40.040 --> 00:25:41.860 talking about, what the theme is. 00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:48.240 This is not the time for, you know, preaching 10 minute sermons, because this is only a half 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:48.620 hour. 00:25:49.080 --> 00:25:50.180 It's not long. 00:25:50.620 --> 00:25:55.980 If anything, you know, if you can only make 15 minutes, please join us for the first 15 00:25:55.980 --> 00:25:56.440 minutes. 00:25:56.940 --> 00:26:03.260 But this is a time for us to be in community, building each other up, if that's the topic, 00:26:03.580 --> 00:26:09.220 or it could be specifically for a location, maybe a platform. 00:26:10.260 --> 00:26:12.960 We've talked about that platform as place. 00:26:14.180 --> 00:26:16.180 And it could be Twitch. 00:26:16.600 --> 00:26:22.280 It could be praying for people in Twitch, in the metaverse, or any specific area. 00:26:22.500 --> 00:26:24.700 And then also geographical, too. 00:26:24.900 --> 00:26:26.260 We have outposts. 00:26:26.260 --> 00:26:33.540 Maybe you've heard Jeff talk about our outposts and the leaders within TCD. 00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:40.220 And so we want to make sure and be clear that we are grounded in prayer. 00:26:40.220 --> 00:26:50.180 This is not about, oh, I have something, I have a 15 minute lesson to give or sermon to give. 00:26:50.180 --> 00:26:57.000 But it is in agreement, all of us together to pray in agreement of what God is doing. 00:26:57.000 --> 00:27:02.500 And we get to be part of that movement by joining in this community of prayer. 00:27:03.060 --> 00:27:05.020 So any questions, Jeff? 00:27:05.500 --> 00:27:05.900 Awesome. 00:27:06.040 --> 00:27:07.000 No, I love it. 00:27:07.100 --> 00:27:08.480 Excited about guided prayer. 00:27:08.580 --> 00:27:10.640 It's going to be every other week on Wednesdays. 00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:13.020 And then also the well. 00:27:13.120 --> 00:27:19.520 If you've not seen or experienced the well, which is every Tuesday at like 10 Eastern, I think. 00:27:20.520 --> 00:27:26.220 Both of these are incredible spiritual experiences. 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:35.400 I don't know what the right word is, but it's a beautiful opportunity to maybe come together, get refreshed, and gain focus and perspective. 00:27:35.760 --> 00:27:41.980 You know, I've been, Alex is in my EDM group and really excited about some of the work that she's doing with the well. 00:27:42.520 --> 00:27:44.320 And so both of these are opportunities. 00:27:44.940 --> 00:27:48.600 In TCD, I would strongly invite you to lean into both of these. 00:27:48.600 --> 00:27:55.760 You can see times for these on the church.digital slash calendar is a great way to get connected into that. 00:27:56.080 --> 00:28:00.120 So, but Stacey, thanks for jumping on and digging in. 00:28:00.300 --> 00:28:01.560 We're going to have to pivot. 00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:03.380 So I'm going to kick you off this. 00:28:04.020 --> 00:28:07.900 And so, yeah, she's here and she's gone. 00:28:08.260 --> 00:28:08.620 Okay. 00:28:09.760 --> 00:28:10.500 Okay, thanks. 00:28:10.540 --> 00:28:11.360 It's great to be here as well. 00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:14.260 Another Nigerian swinging in here. 00:28:14.580 --> 00:28:17.240 And so, yes, Stacey is the best. 00:28:17.300 --> 00:28:18.040 Excited for that. 00:28:18.360 --> 00:28:26.160 I'm going to rush into this next one because I've got Jason Morris on. 00:28:26.600 --> 00:28:29.700 And so, do I still have sound? 00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:31.000 Can people hear me? 00:28:31.640 --> 00:28:32.300 And he's back. 00:28:32.380 --> 00:28:32.780 Okay, good. 00:28:32.860 --> 00:28:33.440 Jeff Sound's back. 00:28:34.020 --> 00:28:36.800 I misclicked a button for two seconds. 00:28:37.040 --> 00:28:39.220 And so that was me over here. 00:28:39.340 --> 00:28:39.720 Thank you. 00:28:39.900 --> 00:28:40.660 I appreciate that. 00:28:40.660 --> 00:28:41.540 Joshua Easterson. 00:28:41.620 --> 00:28:42.500 Great to see you too, sir. 00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:43.360 All right. 00:28:44.820 --> 00:28:45.980 Let's get going here. 00:28:46.500 --> 00:28:50.980 We've talked about the idea of a digital missionary framework. 00:28:51.500 --> 00:28:53.000 Connect community, quit mobilizing. 00:28:53.140 --> 00:28:53.580 It's interesting. 00:28:53.700 --> 00:28:56.580 I had my kids program a little square here with a cube. 00:28:56.680 --> 00:28:58.320 Connect community, quit mobilizing. 00:28:58.660 --> 00:28:59.840 It's the four gold squares. 00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:03.120 But then multiplication, you can see where it starts to rotate around. 00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:05.240 3D printing, incredible, right? 00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:07.600 But this is what we talk about all the time. 00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:09.480 It's this framework to do this. 00:29:09.820 --> 00:29:12.580 So let me ask this as I'm bringing Jason Morris on the screen. 00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:16.400 Using a digital missionary framework, connect community, equip mobilized. 00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:22.460 Connecting with people at a digital level. 00:29:22.520 --> 00:29:23.300 Hit the wrong button, JMO. 00:29:23.380 --> 00:29:23.600 Sorry. 00:29:24.140 --> 00:29:29.380 Connecting with people digitally, inviting them into a community, equipping them to be a digital 00:29:29.380 --> 00:29:32.740 missionary, and then mobilizing and sending them out. 00:29:33.080 --> 00:29:35.420 What are your strengths and what are your weaknesses? 00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:40.300 Go ahead and give me some thoughts on that real quick. 00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:43.420 Connect community, equip, mobilize. 00:29:45.060 --> 00:29:48.020 Hey, Jason, as they're doing that and as they're thinking, I know your time's short. 00:29:48.100 --> 00:29:50.820 You've got to run here like in 30 seconds or so. 00:29:52.280 --> 00:29:52.760 Yeah. 00:29:53.060 --> 00:29:54.160 Sorry, my friend. 00:29:54.700 --> 00:29:56.300 I don't show up if you're getting well. 00:29:57.160 --> 00:30:01.020 Talk to me a little bit about the experience of EDM so far. 00:30:01.020 --> 00:30:02.940 We wrote Equipping Digital Missionaries. 00:30:03.080 --> 00:30:03.960 You ran the first beta. 00:30:04.660 --> 00:30:06.100 70 of them applied. 00:30:06.220 --> 00:30:08.020 We could probably graduate 35 or so. 00:30:09.300 --> 00:30:11.640 What, you know, how's it been for your group? 00:30:11.900 --> 00:30:12.860 What are you seeing? 00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:14.800 Like, what's the excitement level of this? 00:30:16.420 --> 00:30:23.060 What I love about our group, and it sounds to me like a lot of the other cohorts are experiencing 00:30:23.060 --> 00:30:31.000 the same thing, that there seems to have taken a turn around week eight, nine. 00:30:31.020 --> 00:30:34.900 Where we're starting to become friends. 00:30:35.760 --> 00:30:38.680 And that, to me, is the biggest indicator ever. 00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:48.280 Because one of the big problems that digital doesn't do well, oddly, is deep friendships. 00:30:49.380 --> 00:30:51.620 Like, we go broad really easily. 00:30:52.520 --> 00:30:53.600 Going deep is harder. 00:30:54.260 --> 00:30:55.800 And that's true not just of digital. 00:30:55.980 --> 00:30:57.100 It's true of physical too. 00:30:58.600 --> 00:31:03.020 But it seems to be magnified because the differential is so great. 00:31:04.040 --> 00:31:13.720 And so one of the things that has been super encouraging to me is for us to share some of the things that we're struggling with. 00:31:15.100 --> 00:31:20.960 And it came out of that mental health week that we did as a cohort together. 00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:21.340 Yeah. 00:31:21.600 --> 00:31:28.680 And just sharing how the struggles actually manifest themselves. 00:31:28.680 --> 00:31:37.220 Not only in the people that we're ministering to, but also in us as wounded warriors out there getting the job done. 00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:38.760 We're all broken people. 00:31:39.280 --> 00:31:45.720 And being able to share what's going on and get help and support. 00:31:46.240 --> 00:31:46.800 Wow. 00:31:47.060 --> 00:31:55.340 That changed the dynamic of us working together as a team of friends on mission. 00:31:55.940 --> 00:32:03.660 And so for me, I felt like, wow, this feels completely different now in the second half of the cohort and in the first half of the cohort. 00:32:03.660 --> 00:32:16.240 And when we're talking about things like metrics and logistics and all of that, there is a whole other layer of friendship on top of those topics that completely changes the way that it feels. 00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:22.000 Because we know that we've got each other's backs on this stuff and we're not alone. 00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:25.320 And so for me, that's been the most encouraging. 00:32:26.620 --> 00:32:28.920 Yeah, Stacey's adding to that idea. 00:32:29.360 --> 00:32:31.340 And you said it, we're all broken people. 00:32:32.300 --> 00:32:37.340 And operating that way digitally is so comforting and reassuring. 00:32:37.660 --> 00:32:43.880 And honestly, it's the exact opposite of what is the culture of digital, which is one of the reasons why we coach it. 00:32:44.040 --> 00:32:45.380 It stands separate from that. 00:32:46.040 --> 00:32:47.600 And so it's been beautiful. 00:32:47.820 --> 00:32:53.580 It's interesting, Jason, as we're even looking at, a lot of people are good at the community and the connect piece. 00:32:54.020 --> 00:32:59.780 But the equipping and the mobilizing, that is a weakness right now. 00:32:59.780 --> 00:33:10.320 And honestly, with the church digital, it's taken us kind of years to get the community and the connection in place to be able to really now get down and build out equipping and mobilization. 00:33:10.660 --> 00:33:21.540 And the heart of what we're trying to offer with EDM is to create this opportunity to focus on the equipping piece and the mobilization. 00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:23.880 And so, Jason, you'll appreciate this, Jeff. 00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:29.580 You know, it's it's the it's the it's the actually, Jason, I thought about you and this with with the beard. 00:33:29.740 --> 00:33:33.540 But, you know, it's Elmo working out, building those muscles. 00:33:33.660 --> 00:33:34.860 I so love this Jeff, man. 00:33:35.100 --> 00:33:40.060 But this this is the beauty of what we're doing with equipping digital missionaries. 00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:44.400 Like we've had and this is including even the beta, too, that we're running. 00:33:44.600 --> 00:33:51.400 We've had over one hundred and twenty people sign up for EDM like globally. 00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:54.740 There's there's a I would say in six months. 00:33:54.740 --> 00:33:58.600 And to be honest, we didn't even really broadcast that we're doing this. 00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:04.320 We're having conversations with organizations that want to empower thousands of people to be digital missionaries. 00:34:04.320 --> 00:34:08.700 Like there's there's a huge interest in exploring and empowering the space. 00:34:08.900 --> 00:34:10.440 And so I'm going to let you in. 00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:19.020 And this is this is this has a dated this is a dated announcement because EDM beta to we're going to close registration. 00:34:19.020 --> 00:34:20.440 Today's Tuesday, the 11th. 00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:23.360 We're going to close it Wednesday, the 12th, because we've got to launch this thing. 00:34:23.860 --> 00:34:27.840 February 24th is when we're starting the next EDM beta. 00:34:28.220 --> 00:34:29.780 It was a 13 week cohort. 00:34:29.980 --> 00:34:32.780 We're making some changes, getting it down to a 10 week cohort. 00:34:33.040 --> 00:34:35.200 We're connecting together a global community. 00:34:35.200 --> 00:34:40.520 We've got at this point, I can tell you, we've got Oceania, we've got Nigeria, we've got America, the Americas. 00:34:40.520 --> 00:34:45.080 That's three or four continents right there coming together to do this. 00:34:45.080 --> 00:34:47.040 Some really interesting things. 00:34:47.040 --> 00:34:54.200 And we're also rolling out some electives towards this in assessments from a past as well as true center. 00:34:54.360 --> 00:35:00.760 Like we're really building into EDM in the heart of equipping digital missionaries. 00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:07.640 And so you, too, can be like Elmo lifting the weights and being able to be all muscular like we all know Tickle Me Elmo is. 00:35:08.080 --> 00:35:09.200 Jason, did you ever Tickle Me Elmo? 00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:11.680 No. 00:35:12.220 --> 00:35:13.400 No, you never had a Tickle Me Elmo? 00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:14.800 No, I was in my kids, though. 00:35:15.200 --> 00:35:16.140 I had a Tickle Me Elmo. 00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:17.460 I'll make that confession. 00:35:18.060 --> 00:35:18.960 I loved it, too. 00:35:19.040 --> 00:35:20.220 I thought it was when I was like a high school kid. 00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:22.920 Jason, you must be a lot older than I am. 00:35:23.160 --> 00:35:24.440 I just, maybe that's all. 00:35:25.040 --> 00:35:25.340 Maybe. 00:35:25.420 --> 00:35:26.340 Did he just say that? 00:35:26.380 --> 00:35:26.920 Can he say that? 00:35:27.260 --> 00:35:32.260 Hey, if you want more information, it's thechurch.digital slash EDM, thechurch.digital slash EDM. 00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:35.740 Seriously, beta 2, we're going to close in 24 hours, so sign up for that. 00:35:36.260 --> 00:35:39.480 Jason, my friend, I know you need to go. 00:35:39.940 --> 00:35:43.580 I appreciate you sticking around a little bit today and doing that. 00:35:43.660 --> 00:35:50.280 But I'm going to let you go, and we're going to pivot to the next model here, which is Mobilize. 00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:52.520 Stacey's a beast. 00:35:52.640 --> 00:35:53.280 Love her heart. 00:35:53.380 --> 00:35:54.680 I have no idea why that popped up. 00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:56.620 I'm not saying that Stacey is not a beast. 00:35:56.760 --> 00:35:57.580 Stacey is a beast. 00:35:57.980 --> 00:36:00.260 But I think that got stuck in the programming. 00:36:01.140 --> 00:36:03.220 Nicole Howard, so glad to be here. 00:36:03.940 --> 00:36:04.340 Definitely. 00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:06.360 Simon says nice. 00:36:07.240 --> 00:36:10.340 Simon, I'm not sure what you're nice in, but I love the fact. 00:36:10.740 --> 00:36:15.560 Listen, if Simon Dirks is happy, all goes well with the world. 00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:20.380 And so, actually, Simon, we're right up your alley here with the Mobilize section. 00:36:20.460 --> 00:36:24.700 By the way, this is not even the fun part of the show. 00:36:25.220 --> 00:36:28.580 There's, well, we're going to get there, but stick around. 00:36:28.700 --> 00:36:30.640 You don't want to go anywhere with this. 00:36:30.700 --> 00:36:32.340 But let's talk about Mobilize. 00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:35.860 Finding a GIF on Mobilization was hard. 00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:37.920 Time to go mobile. 00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:40.420 I don't know if you can relate to, is this Bane? 00:36:40.740 --> 00:36:41.820 From the Batman series. 00:36:42.060 --> 00:36:43.200 Like, I really don't do DC. 00:36:43.380 --> 00:36:44.460 I'm much more of a Marvel guy. 00:36:44.840 --> 00:36:46.080 But, I mean, it's Bane. 00:36:46.180 --> 00:36:47.220 He's kind of bad looking. 00:36:47.500 --> 00:36:50.000 So, and evidently, he's going to go mobile. 00:36:50.180 --> 00:36:53.740 I think this is right before he jumps on the motorcycle and terrorizes Gotham. 00:36:54.260 --> 00:36:55.600 Different story for a different day. 00:36:56.560 --> 00:36:59.400 But really, for us, it's not about mobilization. 00:37:00.100 --> 00:37:01.420 Like, going mobile. 00:37:01.680 --> 00:37:02.200 Bye, Tom. 00:37:02.460 --> 00:37:03.320 Good to see you, my friend. 00:37:03.980 --> 00:37:06.360 It's much more about multiplication. 00:37:07.380 --> 00:37:08.600 Thank you, Fred Flintstone. 00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:23.780 It's all about taking these ideas, investing the idea of sharing Christ, the idea of discipleship, relational evangelism, relational discipleship, utilizing digital community as a community worthy of Christ, of gospel, and of the church. 00:37:23.780 --> 00:37:33.580 It's all about seeing these ideas multiply out, which is the heart of what we're trying to do with the church digital in this mobilizing stage. 00:37:34.260 --> 00:37:41.740 Which gets me to where it's ironic that Simon Dirks was on here, because Simon's a big part of this, which gets us to our outposts. 00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:58.100 Outposts are these decentralized networks, regional networks that we've got in place that are designed to encourage digital missionaries to experiment, to explore, and to be empowered to do ministry. 00:37:58.100 --> 00:38:06.880 Outposts will encourage digital missionaries to explore and experiment, essentially empowering them to do ministry. 00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:11.240 And so we're very excited about these outposts. 00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:14.680 Now, we've got maybe five or six of these popping up right now. 00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:22.200 I know Simon is in Germany, but he's working in Europe at this point. 00:38:22.720 --> 00:38:24.800 And Yatope's working in Southern Africa. 00:38:25.680 --> 00:38:32.300 We've got Ebenezer, Ebby, who's working South Asia. 00:38:33.420 --> 00:38:36.060 Josh, we're getting ready to launch into the middle. 00:38:36.380 --> 00:38:37.840 I'm sorry, into Oceania. 00:38:38.300 --> 00:38:41.620 We're having some conversations with some people that are in the Middle East area. 00:38:42.020 --> 00:38:58.220 And so, like, we're building out these regional networks in such a way that if you are connected or if you're in those areas and you're interested in learning how to do ministry in those contexts, listen, I have no idea how digital works in Africa. 00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:01.540 Like, forgive me, I'm not even going to try to pretend. 00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:03.060 Yatope does. 00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:10.120 And so far be it from me to tell Yatope what to do, I want to get you connected with Yatope. 00:39:10.940 --> 00:39:14.380 Like, it's so funny, Sadiq here is like, you know, how do we connect? 00:39:14.680 --> 00:39:20.220 That's my point, is that we want these people to connect with people in their context to learn how to do that. 00:39:20.300 --> 00:39:32.040 And that's really what we're trying to do with our outposts or start to create these regional networks within WhatsApp or Discord, we're relevant, and trying to get people connected to the source. 00:39:32.500 --> 00:39:36.100 Like, hey, let's get people in Europe, get them connected to Simon. 00:39:36.240 --> 00:39:43.540 And so Simon can help them, and we can work through Simon, and Simon can help contextualize some of our training so it'll work in that context. 00:39:43.540 --> 00:39:46.220 And same thing goes out with the other regions. 00:39:46.380 --> 00:39:52.440 And so that's the heart behind what we're trying to do with our outposts. 00:39:52.460 --> 00:39:53.460 Now, let me ask this question. 00:39:55.860 --> 00:40:00.260 As digital missionaries, what do you need help with? 00:40:01.520 --> 00:40:06.580 And this is where I'm curious, you know, is it the equipping? 00:40:07.300 --> 00:40:09.980 Is it the, what are the numbers there? 00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:12.620 Finding encouragement within your ministry. 00:40:13.540 --> 00:40:16.040 Exploring new platforms and new ideas. 00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:18.660 Experimenting with new techniques. 00:40:19.540 --> 00:40:24.060 Or resources to empower you to do ministry. 00:40:24.660 --> 00:40:29.520 As digital missionaries, what do you need help with? 00:40:30.700 --> 00:40:32.040 Experimenting with new techniques. 00:40:32.220 --> 00:40:33.820 Finding encouragement in your ministry. 00:40:34.060 --> 00:40:35.200 Exploring new platforms. 00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:38.800 And resources to empower you to do ministry. 00:40:40.720 --> 00:40:42.380 This actually surprises me. 00:40:42.580 --> 00:40:44.340 Experimenting with new techniques is in the lead. 00:40:44.340 --> 00:40:45.620 I would not have said that. 00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:46.780 That's good. 00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:51.400 I mean, I love the fact that we are an adventurous sort. 00:40:52.080 --> 00:40:58.240 And the ability to utilize the outposts to do experiments with. 00:40:58.460 --> 00:41:01.380 To maybe talk through ideas of how better to experiment. 00:41:01.580 --> 00:41:04.720 The idea of how to read the results that come in from that. 00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:07.040 Resources to empower you to do ministry. 00:41:07.040 --> 00:41:08.640 Resources to empower you to do ministry. 00:41:08.640 --> 00:41:11.520 I did kind of feel like that one was going to be strong. 00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:18.080 You know, it's, well, just to be honest, digital ministry, digital mission work can be alone. 00:41:18.600 --> 00:41:21.140 There's not a lot of organizations that are doing it yet. 00:41:21.300 --> 00:41:25.340 And to be honest, as a result of that, we, the Church Digital, are stepping into that space. 00:41:25.580 --> 00:41:29.700 And to be able to help digital missionaries and people like you. 00:41:30.820 --> 00:41:38.840 Now, what's funny is there's lots of organizations that I don't think I've had an organization yet tell me that I've approached, tell me they wouldn't help. 00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:44.080 Now, most of them don't know how to help and don't know how to contextualize and don't know what it means. 00:41:44.240 --> 00:41:52.120 And some of them think I'm crazy, but they're willing to, you know, throw down and help, you know, crazy Jeff do whatever Jeff's crazily wanting to do. 00:41:52.560 --> 00:41:54.220 And so this is the opportunity, right? 00:41:54.220 --> 00:42:06.380 As digital missionaries, we want to get you connected into an outpost to be able to provide you those resources to empower your ministry or to help you experiment with new techniques, exploring new platforms and new ideas. 00:42:08.600 --> 00:42:13.220 And so love that, finding encouragement in your ministry. 00:42:13.560 --> 00:42:16.560 Like we said, oh, I clicked the wrong button, boom, boom. 00:42:17.120 --> 00:42:28.520 Our digital outposts, I think I said this, Europe is Simon, it's South Africa, Utope, South Asia, Ebenezer, Ebenezer, Ebay, Oceania and Asia Pacific, Josh. 00:42:28.600 --> 00:42:32.800 We have a lot of, the Pacific Islands over there is a lot of interest in that. 00:42:33.180 --> 00:42:36.100 The Americas, to be honest, I'm looking for a leader. 00:42:36.100 --> 00:42:40.320 This is embarrassing, in my own country, I don't have a leader for an outpost. 00:42:40.560 --> 00:42:49.460 But if you're interested in helping in the Americas, North as well as South, or we can break it up South and North, we're open to that. 00:42:49.540 --> 00:42:55.680 We're looking for somebody that can step in and fill in that gap as a outpost leader in the Americas. 00:42:55.900 --> 00:42:57.320 And so feel free to connect with me. 00:42:58.260 --> 00:43:03.920 And so I just realized that page is not launched yet. 00:43:04.300 --> 00:43:07.160 I was supposed to record a video and I didn't make my deadline. 00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:09.400 So never mind going to that webpage. 00:43:09.520 --> 00:43:10.320 You can if you want. 00:43:10.660 --> 00:43:11.360 No, actually, you know what? 00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:11.840 Don't do it. 00:43:12.060 --> 00:43:12.720 Don't do it. 00:43:12.860 --> 00:43:13.480 I refuse. 00:43:13.700 --> 00:43:14.480 Don't go to the webpage. 00:43:14.980 --> 00:43:15.860 Don't go to the webpage. 00:43:15.860 --> 00:43:18.640 I just realized there's some stuff on there that's not quite ready. 00:43:18.940 --> 00:43:24.660 By the way, if you go to the webpage, if you go to the webpage, you will not get the secret. 00:43:24.980 --> 00:43:27.200 Like, your computer will automatically crash. 00:43:27.300 --> 00:43:27.960 Don't go to that webpage. 00:43:29.220 --> 00:43:37.600 Jeff, digital minister, Utope, is asking, oh my gosh, how can one connect to our TCD WhatsApp group? 00:43:37.660 --> 00:43:38.560 That's a great question. 00:43:39.040 --> 00:43:44.820 It's WhatsApp, spelled correctly, W-H-A-T-S-A-P-P, dot the church, dot digital. 00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:47.120 WhatsApp, dot the church, dot digital. 00:43:47.240 --> 00:43:49.460 I'm so mad I put that link on that page. 00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:54.100 Now people are going to, like, that page is getting more hits now than anything else on the website. 00:43:54.100 --> 00:43:57.560 Because people are like, I wonder, what's so secret over there? 00:43:57.700 --> 00:43:58.700 No, it's kidding. 00:43:59.220 --> 00:43:59.940 All right. 00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:01.460 But hey, I've got a secret. 00:44:02.340 --> 00:44:04.980 And I haven't, I don't know that I've said this publicly yet. 00:44:05.660 --> 00:44:06.940 This one's been killing me. 00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:10.820 I've really wanted to talk about this, and I haven't been able to. 00:44:11.100 --> 00:44:13.240 So I'm excited to roll this one out. 00:44:13.660 --> 00:44:18.000 Normally, I would, like, get people to give me a drum roll. 00:44:18.580 --> 00:44:23.780 And so here, I know I can't hear you, but wherever you are, I want you to do the drum roll. 00:44:24.180 --> 00:44:27.420 Like, go to your desk and give me a drum roll. 00:44:27.700 --> 00:44:30.840 Hey, Pastor D. 00:44:31.340 --> 00:44:33.460 Hey, I couldn't make it earlier, but I want you to check in. 00:44:33.740 --> 00:44:34.200 It's Pastor D. 00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:35.360 Hey, Pastor D, stick around. 00:44:35.660 --> 00:44:36.120 Two minutes. 00:44:36.700 --> 00:44:38.760 This drum roll is for you. 00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:39.940 Kind of, sort of. 00:44:40.100 --> 00:44:41.400 I want you to be a part of this, though. 00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:42.540 Hey, drum roll. 00:44:42.700 --> 00:44:42.940 Okay. 00:44:43.300 --> 00:44:44.260 What are we drum rolling? 00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:45.940 What's the secret, secret, secret? 00:44:46.120 --> 00:44:46.460 Here we go. 00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:46.720 You ready? 00:44:47.600 --> 00:44:48.920 Oh, that just said. 00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:49.900 Wrong button pushed. 00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:51.260 You ready for this? 00:44:51.860 --> 00:44:52.160 Boom. 00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:57.360 The Church Digital is doing a digital missionary conference. 00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:05.280 I repeat, the Church Digital is going to be doing a digital missionary conference. 00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:07.580 And the crowd celebrate. 00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:13.560 Yes, even Morgan Freeman is excited about the announcement in place. 00:45:14.220 --> 00:45:21.220 We, the Church Digital, are going to be doing a digital missionary conference online. 00:45:21.860 --> 00:45:24.680 And we'll get to that in a second. 00:45:25.080 --> 00:45:26.240 Let's, let's walk through it. 00:45:27.460 --> 00:45:29.240 The digital missionary conference. 00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:30.280 Why? 00:45:31.220 --> 00:45:33.700 We are equipping anyone to do digital ministry. 00:45:33.900 --> 00:45:37.000 By the way, House of His Glory, Pastor D. 00:45:37.140 --> 00:45:38.220 Yes, I came in just in time. 00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:38.900 Yes, you did. 00:45:39.380 --> 00:45:42.900 You can watch all of this, of course, on demand on YouTube and get caught up with the stuff 00:45:42.900 --> 00:45:43.380 that you missed. 00:45:43.680 --> 00:45:45.580 But this is, this is a big announcement. 00:45:45.700 --> 00:45:46.440 This is a big part of it. 00:45:46.660 --> 00:45:47.880 We're doing an online conference. 00:45:47.980 --> 00:45:48.180 Why? 00:45:48.260 --> 00:45:52.360 Because we want to equip anyone to do digital missionary work. 00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:54.860 We want to equip anybody to do digital ministry. 00:45:54.860 --> 00:45:58.280 Simon, on another continent, is doing the celebration. 00:45:59.200 --> 00:46:02.180 Yatope, on another continent, is doing the hand clap. 00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:07.320 Everybody is happy right now because we're doing a digital missionary conference. 00:46:07.540 --> 00:46:10.420 It is Wednesday, April 2nd, 2 a.m. 00:46:10.520 --> 00:46:14.500 Excuse me, April 2nd, 2025, 11 a.m. Eastern. 00:46:15.640 --> 00:46:18.600 That is Eastern New York. 00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:20.820 And so figure out the time zones towards that. 00:46:22.180 --> 00:46:28.720 What we're going to do, keynote talks, as well as breakout sessions, where we're going to 00:46:28.720 --> 00:46:34.460 be doing a digital broadcast and we're also going to be doing the conference in virtual 00:46:34.460 --> 00:46:34.960 reality. 00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:37.060 So here's the plan. 00:46:37.600 --> 00:46:38.060 All right. 00:46:38.140 --> 00:46:40.640 And I'm going to need some of your help to pull this off. 00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:47.420 We are doing a conference complete with keynote speakers in Ultra Live, YouTube, cameras, 00:46:47.560 --> 00:46:48.980 webcam, all of this. 00:46:49.100 --> 00:46:55.080 Now, some of the speakers we've lined up for the broadcast campus, I mean, some of these, 00:46:55.140 --> 00:46:56.440 I'm going to show you here in a little bit. 00:46:56.500 --> 00:46:57.420 It's an incredible lineup. 00:46:57.620 --> 00:47:00.460 And I'm excited even about the ones we haven't firmed up yet. 00:47:01.740 --> 00:47:06.620 But we know that that virtual is different than physical, than digital. 00:47:07.060 --> 00:47:10.400 If you're really doing virtual reality ministry, it's an avatar. 00:47:10.580 --> 00:47:11.380 It's a completely different bird. 00:47:11.740 --> 00:47:18.320 And so as a result of that, we're wanting to produce some of the broadcast conference will 00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:19.380 go into virtual reality. 00:47:19.620 --> 00:47:25.420 And then we're looking for specific speakers to speak just to virtual reality ministry. 00:47:25.420 --> 00:47:31.920 So there will literally be exclusive content from the conference specifically designed for 00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:32.660 virtual reality. 00:47:33.180 --> 00:47:36.600 It's not like come into virtual reality and watch this video. 00:47:36.740 --> 00:47:40.660 There's going to be a little bit of that from some, some qualified talks, but a lot of it's 00:47:40.660 --> 00:47:44.000 going to be original and authentic to virtual reality. 00:47:44.460 --> 00:47:47.100 How much are you talking to? 00:47:47.260 --> 00:47:48.880 I mean, I give, I give stuff away. 00:47:49.260 --> 00:47:51.700 All this is going to be free for participants. 00:47:52.980 --> 00:47:55.600 Here is, I keep clicking the wrong button. 00:47:56.420 --> 00:47:59.160 Speakers include David Nelms, founder of the Timothy Initiative. 00:47:59.260 --> 00:48:03.060 By the way, the Timothy Initiative this year, David Nelms told me their goal was to train 00:48:03.060 --> 00:48:07.920 180,000 people globally on missionary work. 00:48:09.420 --> 00:48:10.820 Talk about starting a movement. 00:48:12.020 --> 00:48:16.980 180,000 people to share the gospel globally. 00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:20.540 Jay Cranda, online campus pastor at Saddleback. 00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:25.740 By the way, on the down low, you know, I talk about JMO being one of the smartest people in 00:48:25.740 --> 00:48:26.520 digital ministry. 00:48:27.020 --> 00:48:28.920 Jay Cranda's in the top four. 00:48:30.520 --> 00:48:34.860 And some of the stuff that he's doing in closed areas is ridiculous. 00:48:34.860 --> 00:48:37.820 And so looking forward to him sharing a little bit about that. 00:48:38.240 --> 00:48:44.280 Matthew Nierman, one of the leaders of the Lausanne organization, Billy Graham's missions organization 00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:47.260 and director of research is coming on. 00:48:47.620 --> 00:48:50.080 Matthew Nierman chaired the gospel. 00:48:50.260 --> 00:48:50.740 What was it called? 00:48:50.820 --> 00:48:54.680 The, oh my gosh, the gospel report. 00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:56.760 Somebody's going to yell at me when they figure this out. 00:48:58.100 --> 00:49:02.480 Literally, it was a 200 page report on, on the Great Commission report. 00:49:02.980 --> 00:49:06.840 And it's maybe at 50, 60 pages on digital ministry. 00:49:07.540 --> 00:49:13.720 Matthew Nierman is one of the strong reasons why the Lausanne has such a calling in love for 00:49:13.720 --> 00:49:14.440 digital ministry. 00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:21.400 Josh Packard, author of Church Refugees is coming on the show, by the way, Dr. John Harris and 00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:26.080 Josh, Dr. John Harris, Dr. John is going to interview Josh Packard. 00:49:27.020 --> 00:49:29.960 Really excited, really excited about this one. 00:49:30.060 --> 00:49:34.180 Like this is going to be a great, a great interview. 00:49:35.080 --> 00:49:41.160 Dr. John has been quoting Josh Packard on my podcast for years. 00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:41.820 I'm not kidding. 00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:47.920 And one day I was, I told Dr. John, I was like, Hey, if, if I, if I did a podcast and 00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:49.940 I brought in Josh Packard, would you want to interview him? 00:49:50.100 --> 00:49:53.200 I don't know who Josh Packard is, but I'll go find out. 00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:54.980 And sure enough, I was able to find out, find him. 00:49:55.160 --> 00:49:57.900 And he's coming to speak at the conference with Dr. John. 00:49:57.960 --> 00:49:59.700 And this is just scratching the surface. 00:50:00.260 --> 00:50:01.560 These are all the broadcasts. 00:50:01.560 --> 00:50:03.520 We're still sealing up virtual reality speakers. 00:50:03.520 --> 00:50:05.800 Now we've got a couple of broadcast speakers. 00:50:06.020 --> 00:50:07.820 I think we're bringing on as well. 00:50:08.120 --> 00:50:11.120 So listen, more information on the conference. 00:50:12.120 --> 00:50:16.460 You want to go to missionary.digital, missionary.digital. 00:50:16.600 --> 00:50:18.680 There's not much to see now. 00:50:19.940 --> 00:50:24.100 In typical fashion with the church digital, we're building the plane while it's flying. 00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:29.440 And so a lot of the details are getting rushed and, and put together right now. 00:50:30.560 --> 00:50:34.660 Um, I will, uh, so missionary.digital and get on a mailing list. 00:50:34.740 --> 00:50:37.020 We'll keep you up to date with what's going on with the conference. 00:50:37.540 --> 00:50:42.680 And, um, we'll, as soon as registrations, official registrations open up, we'll get the 00:50:42.680 --> 00:50:43.020 word out. 00:50:43.560 --> 00:50:49.900 By the way, uh, one thing I feel like I need to say in this moment, um, this conference is 00:50:49.900 --> 00:50:55.000 very, um, it's very, I'm going to put pressure on myself by saying this, this conference is 00:50:55.000 --> 00:51:02.280 very, um, us centric based in, on time zones and delivery methods. 00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:08.240 And, and some of that, um, that will not be that way in the future. 00:51:08.240 --> 00:51:16.600 And so as, as I'm putting this one together, I don't know, um, we ran into some hurdles 00:51:16.600 --> 00:51:22.440 because of deadlines and things, but as I look at our outposts, as I look at our global 00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:32.120 relationships that we're building, it is very important for us to develop a, um, a global 00:51:32.120 --> 00:51:36.960 approach to missionary equipping, which includes how we're doing our, our conferences. 00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:41.360 As a matter of fact, it was, it was really, we, I started talking about this with, with 00:51:41.360 --> 00:51:45.280 Barbara Carnero, uh, in a, in a meeting, I don't know, a week or so ago. 00:51:45.660 --> 00:51:50.360 And I started casting vision for what I want to do with, um, you know, conferences in the 00:51:50.360 --> 00:51:50.680 future. 00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:55.100 And, uh, and, and she said, Jeff, for you to be able to successfully do that, you're going 00:51:55.100 --> 00:51:58.280 to have to break the model of online conference, of digital conferences. 00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:01.560 Like you're just going to break the model and do it a whole new way. 00:52:01.680 --> 00:52:03.940 And she's not wrong. 00:52:04.120 --> 00:52:05.520 So we're going to figure that out. 00:52:05.900 --> 00:52:09.180 Add that to the list of things to do for late 25. 00:52:09.180 --> 00:52:12.920 Oh, wait, did he imply there's going to be a second digital missionary conference in late 00:52:12.920 --> 00:52:13.420 25? 00:52:13.860 --> 00:52:14.380 Congratulations. 00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:15.600 You got the inside scoop. 00:52:16.020 --> 00:52:16.300 Okay. 00:52:16.820 --> 00:52:19.940 So that was, that was the big announcement. 00:52:20.240 --> 00:52:20.720 Okay. 00:52:20.980 --> 00:52:27.800 But you know, in, in typical fashion, oh, there's one more thing that I want to get into. 00:52:27.800 --> 00:52:35.680 And, uh, and so I, um, I, you know, I searched everywhere for a Steve jobs, Jeff saying one 00:52:35.680 --> 00:52:36.120 more thing. 00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:40.220 They don't make a Jeff of Steve jobs with one more thing. 00:52:40.220 --> 00:52:44.540 Like I almost want to pull up old Apple footage and create it just so I can have it for myself. 00:52:44.540 --> 00:52:46.980 Like, I cannot believe no one has this thing. 00:52:46.980 --> 00:52:51.260 Like, like, no, if I love this guy, but this guy and Steve jobs saying one more thing. 00:52:51.260 --> 00:52:56.700 So, all right, so I'm going to put on a hint here, uh, and, um, and I'm going to leave 00:52:56.700 --> 00:53:03.720 this open for, for a while and I'm going to bring on, uh, my next guest, uh, who I wanted 00:53:03.720 --> 00:53:05.240 to speak into, into this. 00:53:05.300 --> 00:53:07.120 Now, I don't know what this means. 00:53:07.340 --> 00:53:08.420 Actually, I know what this means. 00:53:08.460 --> 00:53:12.120 You don't know what this means, but let's go ahead and, uh, and bring him on. 00:53:12.120 --> 00:53:14.560 So I'm going to push my, my magic button here. 00:53:14.560 --> 00:53:15.700 And hopefully this works. 00:53:16.120 --> 00:53:16.800 Hey, there he is. 00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:18.180 There's a, there's flat cap. 00:53:18.180 --> 00:53:18.920 How you doing flat cap? 00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:21.320 Doing well. 00:53:21.320 --> 00:53:22.160 Are you muted where I can hear you? 00:53:22.160 --> 00:53:22.660 No, there you go. 00:53:22.660 --> 00:53:23.500 Enjoying it so far. 00:53:24.280 --> 00:53:24.740 Yeah. 00:53:24.940 --> 00:53:28.680 So, um, is that a new flat cap, flat cap? 00:53:28.680 --> 00:53:30.380 I don't think I've seen that flat cap, flat cap. 00:53:31.620 --> 00:53:33.120 No, I've got plenty back there. 00:53:33.120 --> 00:53:34.360 I just picked a different one today. 00:53:35.060 --> 00:53:35.480 All right. 00:53:35.520 --> 00:53:39.660 I, um, that one, yeah, it's not the one that I normally see in. 00:53:39.660 --> 00:53:43.960 So it kind of stole me for a loop and now I'm suddenly realizing I'm not wearing. 00:53:44.560 --> 00:53:49.640 I have myself and the brightness of the blue is now washing me out where I look like I'm 00:53:49.640 --> 00:53:50.220 a smurf. 00:53:50.220 --> 00:53:53.420 And so it's a, it's a, I guess a good problem to beat. 00:53:53.720 --> 00:53:58.560 So I tell you what, why don't we go ahead and let, let the cat out of the bag. 00:53:59.120 --> 00:54:05.160 What are we announcing here with, um, this animated GIF? 00:54:06.940 --> 00:54:08.520 Uh, it looks like gaming to me. 00:54:08.520 --> 00:54:15.800 So we, uh, we've got a few people in, uh, the TCD sphere that, uh, spend a lot of time 00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:16.720 in gaming. 00:54:17.140 --> 00:54:19.300 Uh, some of us are on Twitch, some in other places. 00:54:19.580 --> 00:54:26.080 And so we're going to be opening up the, one of the outposts is going to be gaming specific 00:54:26.080 --> 00:54:26.980 outposts. 00:54:26.980 --> 00:54:34.380 So I'm going to be doing EDMs, the, uh, equipping digital missionaries and targeting those who 00:54:34.380 --> 00:54:42.320 have decided that, uh, the gaming industry, the gamers, those who spell the, the, the motif 00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:46.820 is like these two guys sitting in your mom's basement, playing video games all day and not 00:54:46.820 --> 00:54:47.980 connected with the real world. 00:54:47.980 --> 00:54:53.820 Uh, but they need Christ and there are a lot of Christians out there that have had the call 00:54:53.820 --> 00:54:57.860 to those gamers because they love them and they know them. 00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:01.020 And so that's what, uh, we're going to be doing. 00:55:01.160 --> 00:55:03.180 Andy is going to be helping me along with that. 00:55:03.460 --> 00:55:06.660 Andy's over in gaming sphere as well. 00:55:06.780 --> 00:55:11.000 So a bunch of my friends on Twitch going to be reaching out to them, bringing them in. 00:55:11.080 --> 00:55:14.580 We're going to be launching some new things in the discord. 00:55:14.580 --> 00:55:19.260 Sorry, those that are in WhatsApp, the gaming realm is connected with discord. 00:55:19.260 --> 00:55:23.940 So if you're in gaming, you'll, you'll be connected in discord at some point. 00:55:23.940 --> 00:55:29.920 So we're just going to be building that outpost connection for community inside of the already 00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:32.560 existing TCD discord server. 00:55:32.560 --> 00:55:36.420 So that's, we're going to, we're going to play around there and the Twitch channel. 00:55:36.600 --> 00:55:40.380 We're going to be launching some new things back on the Twitch channel. 00:55:40.380 --> 00:55:45.700 So I don't have any dates specific of when those will be or time schedules, but it'll 00:55:45.700 --> 00:55:50.120 be the last week of February is when all of this will hopefully be going live. 00:55:50.220 --> 00:55:51.540 That is our target deadline. 00:55:52.160 --> 00:55:55.720 Andy will probably hold me to that and make sure that we get all of that going. 00:55:56.020 --> 00:55:58.120 So, uh, any questions on that, Jeff? 00:55:58.600 --> 00:55:59.700 No, that's beautiful. 00:56:00.240 --> 00:56:06.220 So gaming outpost TCD's gaming outpost, uh, is, is launching right around the corner. 00:56:06.220 --> 00:56:09.440 Um, uh, Stacy flat cap. 00:56:09.540 --> 00:56:09.860 All right. 00:56:09.980 --> 00:56:19.720 Gaming outpost, uh, DeMarcus is, uh, let's go, uh, with, uh, gaming emoji, uh, real Andy 00:56:19.720 --> 00:56:21.740 mage is saying, yes, I will. 00:56:21.740 --> 00:56:22.360 Yes, I will. 00:56:22.420 --> 00:56:26.200 And so, yeah, that's, he's, he's not singing the, that popular song. 00:56:26.220 --> 00:56:27.880 He's, uh, he's holding them accountable. 00:56:28.060 --> 00:56:30.300 I'm going to be honest with you at this moment. 00:56:30.420 --> 00:56:32.800 I'm, I've said this publicly, I'm not a gamer. 00:56:33.100 --> 00:56:38.780 And so the idea of gaming, I kind of feel like the, um, uh, uh, the, the, the Papa chasing 00:56:38.780 --> 00:56:41.000 the children around trying to do this. 00:56:41.080 --> 00:56:42.300 I, I just, I love this Jeff. 00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:47.420 This presentation was more about what Jeff's and do I want to post and then building the 00:56:47.420 --> 00:56:49.620 building what I was actually going to talk around it. 00:56:49.620 --> 00:56:55.860 Uh, but I will put this in public writing right here to give Andy mage, uh, ammunition. 00:56:55.860 --> 00:57:00.960 And so Layton, you can go ahead and screen cap this because sucker, it's going to happen. 00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:06.280 The gaming outpost will launch this month in TCD discord. 00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:10.520 The, the gaming outpost is going to launch this month in TCD discord. 00:57:10.520 --> 00:57:17.460 If you're interested in more information, go see, uh, my friend flat cap and, uh, and get 00:57:17.460 --> 00:57:17.940 connected. 00:57:17.940 --> 00:57:22.360 That is going to be in discord and Twitch because those are the gaming platforms. 00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:26.800 And we're specifically going after that, uh, niche audience with this. 00:57:26.800 --> 00:57:30.460 There's really, I don't, I don't think I said this earlier, but there's, there's Jason 00:57:30.460 --> 00:57:31.480 Morris would say two. 00:57:31.820 --> 00:57:35.440 I would say there's probably three cause I've, I haven't convinced him yet on the third yet. 00:57:35.600 --> 00:57:39.740 I don't know that I told him three yet, but there's three different types of areas that 00:57:39.740 --> 00:57:42.240 we would, that we're going after with our outposts. 00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:47.580 One is, and Stacy mentioned that earlier, it's, it's the, the platforms and places platforms 00:57:47.580 --> 00:57:52.200 looking at like, like Facebook, looking at, at the different platforms that exist. 00:57:52.200 --> 00:57:57.280 And then there's like places that are like, you know, countries, Europe, uh, Southern Africa, 00:57:57.280 --> 00:57:57.720 et cetera. 00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:03.880 And then the third one is, is more of people groups is not the right word, but it's more, 00:58:04.020 --> 00:58:09.800 it's more of that where, you know, I'm even thinking like, um, children or arguably maybe 00:58:09.800 --> 00:58:10.900 even gaming at some of that. 00:58:10.900 --> 00:58:17.660 And so some of these terms are kind of loose, but the, the purpose is, is that we are focused 00:58:17.660 --> 00:58:25.880 on, on specifically, um, helping people within these subcultures, understand more cultures 00:58:25.880 --> 00:58:26.580 and subcultures. 00:58:26.580 --> 00:58:26.940 Okay. 00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:32.940 Understand the gospel, uh, and understand the, what God has in their life and seeing that 00:58:32.940 --> 00:58:36.200 multiplied in, in digital and physical space. 00:58:36.200 --> 00:58:41.780 And so Layton's been a, um, um, I'm trying to figure out the right word. 00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:45.240 Um, Layton's been a, um, a place of strength. 00:58:45.300 --> 00:58:46.020 I'd say an explorer. 00:58:46.840 --> 00:58:51.440 Um, well, you know what, dude, you, when crap hits the fan for me, you're the guy I go 00:58:51.440 --> 00:58:58.160 to like, and so I'm, I'm trying to say something, a statue isn't the right word, but you've been, 00:58:58.240 --> 00:58:59.740 I would say you're a place of strength, man. 00:58:59.940 --> 00:59:07.860 And so I, I appreciate you of, of how you're engaging in this and, um, want to, uh, when 00:59:07.860 --> 00:59:13.180 I'm looking forward to seeing how, uh, the gaming outpost is going to succeed moving forward. 00:59:13.180 --> 00:59:15.520 So, man, thanks for jumping on this. 00:59:15.580 --> 00:59:15.820 Okay. 00:59:15.860 --> 00:59:18.400 Any, any closing thoughts before you leave the show? 00:59:19.860 --> 00:59:25.000 Uh, I think on some level, like the whole outlook of what outposts are supposed to be 00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:32.640 of experimenting, exploring and encouraging, uh, that's, I think really the heart of what 00:59:32.640 --> 00:59:37.780 we want to do with this is exploring and finding other people out there that are isolated and 00:59:37.780 --> 00:59:42.820 alone that don't know yet about other people doing anything digital in ministry, finding 00:59:42.820 --> 00:59:47.260 them, bringing them into community and, uh, learn it from one another, encouraging one 00:59:47.260 --> 00:59:47.560 another. 00:59:47.560 --> 00:59:49.880 So, and I love the idea of experimenting. 00:59:49.880 --> 00:59:52.680 So that'll be a bunch of what'll be happening in the next six months. 00:59:53.120 --> 00:59:53.560 Awesome. 00:59:53.880 --> 00:59:54.640 Love, love that. 00:59:54.640 --> 00:59:55.600 So looking forward to it. 00:59:55.900 --> 01:00:01.700 Andy says, uh, from the peanut gallery, I would also agree that with Jeff, uh, flat cap 01:00:01.700 --> 01:00:04.220 is a place of strength for us. 01:00:04.220 --> 01:00:09.040 And so flat cap, my friend, thanks for, thanks for jumping on here, but I'm going to press my 01:00:09.040 --> 01:00:10.180 magic button and kick you off. 01:00:10.420 --> 01:00:11.160 See you later. 01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:13.480 All right. 01:00:13.500 --> 01:00:14.960 And then it was down to me. 01:00:15.080 --> 01:00:18.080 So this has been a lot of fun to put together. 01:00:18.380 --> 01:00:24.500 Uh, Stacy, uh, says, uh, uh, comments, uh, Jeff will be launching a Jeff outpost. 01:00:24.500 --> 01:00:28.640 Soon, uh, you get a Jeff, you get a Jeff, you get an outpost, you get an outpost. 01:00:28.640 --> 01:00:35.560 We got something that we through the church digital that we want to do to help all of you, uh, take 01:00:35.560 --> 01:00:38.460 clear next steps in your digital ministry. 01:00:38.460 --> 01:01:01.920 Whether your weaknesses connect community, equip, uh, mobilize our heart is to get you connected, um, with people that can help you with a process, with steps, with training, with equipping, um, with, with a group, with others that you can be encouraged to explore, to experiment and be empowered to do the ministry, uh, that you're doing. 01:01:02.300 --> 01:01:04.620 And so here's what I'm going to do. 01:01:05.200 --> 01:01:08.240 Uh, we're going to land the plane at, uh, 62 minutes. 01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:09.940 Actually, I started two minutes late. 01:01:10.220 --> 01:01:18.340 And so, um, maybe that's, um, okay, but I'm going to go ahead and open up, uh, Q and a. 01:01:18.440 --> 01:01:20.720 Uh, and so you can zap the QR code. 01:01:20.840 --> 01:01:22.280 If you need to go, go. 01:01:22.380 --> 01:01:31.660 If you want to stick around and listen to me ramble, uh, go ahead and throw comments and questions in YouTube, or you can throw them in, um, uh, what do you call it here? 01:01:32.120 --> 01:01:38.200 And, um, uh, mint, minty, mint-o-meter, and, uh, we'll go ahead and address questions. 01:01:38.380 --> 01:01:40.900 This is officially the after-party. 01:01:41.060 --> 01:01:41.660 Thank you, Leighton. 01:01:41.860 --> 01:01:42.620 You know what I'll do? 01:01:42.680 --> 01:01:45.440 I'll go ahead and kick the, get the music going again. 01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:47.460 Um, so thank you, Leighton. 01:01:47.840 --> 01:01:48.960 Uh, thank you, J-Mo. 01:01:49.260 --> 01:01:55.160 Thank you, um, Andy was not on, but, and thank you, Stacy, for, for being on here. 01:01:55.260 --> 01:01:56.740 Andy was, was around. 01:01:57.560 --> 01:01:59.880 Andy's the guy that helps me figure out all this stuff. 01:01:59.980 --> 01:02:08.320 And, and so, um, yeah, the, the tech of it, by the way, house of his glory, pastor D, um, love it. 01:02:08.380 --> 01:02:11.660 You know, talking about, uh, I believe that was about the gaming outpost. 01:02:11.740 --> 01:02:13.160 I think it's when I saw that come in. 01:02:13.820 --> 01:02:24.800 Um, uh, you know, I always, I'm always thankful when pastor D's around and, and yeah, uh, Leighton is a, a strong tower, uh, in that he is strong tower. 01:02:25.760 --> 01:02:27.160 Um, yeah. 01:02:27.180 --> 01:02:28.100 What's, what's that song? 01:02:28.320 --> 01:02:29.220 Oh my gosh. 01:02:29.700 --> 01:02:33.080 The righteous fall into him and they are saved. 01:02:33.220 --> 01:02:35.980 Anyway, there's a, a Psalm, right? 01:02:36.340 --> 01:02:37.860 I'm pulling that from, man. 01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:39.440 That's, that's a deep cut for me. 01:02:39.800 --> 01:02:41.340 And so, yeah, I'm looking for questions. 01:02:41.900 --> 01:02:48.980 Anybody on EDM, uh, any, any of the topics, the conference, anything, throw it at me. 01:02:49.160 --> 01:02:53.500 Otherwise, um, I may just like hang out here and, and jam out for a while. 01:02:55.820 --> 01:03:03.560 With my low-fi music, low-fi, I bought a, I mentioned this earlier. 01:03:03.560 --> 01:03:06.200 Actually, some of it, I'll, I'll put it on the podcast. 01:03:06.200 --> 01:03:08.000 It'll be, it'll be the bonus content. 01:03:08.460 --> 01:03:10.840 So, um, we bought a new car. 01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:19.280 Some of you have been in some of my open offices and meetings where I, um, oh, that's much more interesting than my new car. 01:03:19.800 --> 01:03:23.760 Uh, will we be notified soon about EDM? 01:03:24.280 --> 01:03:29.080 Um, yes, yes, tomorrow emails will go out. 01:03:29.520 --> 01:03:31.940 Um, several things happened. 01:03:32.100 --> 01:03:32.740 I apologize. 01:03:33.380 --> 01:03:39.600 Uh, we will be launching the next EDM, uh, the week of February 24th, 10 days away. 01:03:39.660 --> 01:03:44.320 We'll sign up times and get everything set in the next 10 days, uh, to launch into that. 01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:47.360 So, April 24th is going to be good for that. 01:03:47.480 --> 01:03:49.640 Thank you, uh, for that question. 01:03:50.180 --> 01:03:51.960 Um, very good. 01:03:52.420 --> 01:03:55.440 Let me, um, dig into here. 01:03:55.960 --> 01:03:59.080 Uh, do outposts meet via Discord? 01:03:59.840 --> 01:04:06.940 Um, that is a platform-specific question, um, or, you know, a play-specific question. 01:04:07.180 --> 01:04:12.000 Uh, outposts are decentralized, and so there's, there's freedom for them to pick. 01:04:12.340 --> 01:04:17.740 Now, I'll, I'll tell you that the gaming outpost will be meeting in Discord, because it makes 01:04:17.740 --> 01:04:23.160 100% sense for that to happen, uh, since all gamers are on Discord. 01:04:23.520 --> 01:04:33.860 Now, what we're finding, Pastor D, in context, is that our, um, like, for example, um, Utope, 01:04:34.200 --> 01:04:42.320 down in, uh, Southern Africa, South Africa, he, um, the technology, the banning, 01:04:42.340 --> 01:04:49.260 bandwidth that absorbs into running Discord, really makes it very hard to get much engagement 01:04:49.260 --> 01:04:54.560 in, um, some of the technological bandwidth limited areas down there. 01:04:54.820 --> 01:04:59.460 And, and so the, the asynchronous community that honestly seems to be picking up a lot 01:04:59.460 --> 01:05:01.380 globally for us is WhatsApp. 01:05:01.380 --> 01:05:09.420 Um, honestly, across the planet, 25% of the world's population already have WhatsApp installed 01:05:09.420 --> 01:05:10.980 on their phones and are active users. 01:05:12.220 --> 01:05:16.700 And so, rather than trying to introduce a new platform to a bunch of people, we've been 01:05:16.700 --> 01:05:22.620 leaning strong into WhatsApp globally, uh, realizing that Discord does work for some people. 01:05:23.140 --> 01:05:28.660 As a matter of fact, our new EDM, uh, the ones, and I'm going to be leading this next batch, 01:05:29.060 --> 01:05:35.540 um, they will be a hundred percent WhatsApp, um, the Americas, the Oceania, and the other. 01:05:35.700 --> 01:05:39.980 We're all going to be together in, um, um, for EDM. 01:05:40.180 --> 01:05:43.220 As a matter of fact, we're doing something different. 01:05:43.460 --> 01:05:47.940 I'm actually going to combine all three of those continents together, all three of the, 01:05:47.940 --> 01:05:51.340 the groups and the one WhatsApp group. 01:05:51.700 --> 01:05:57.300 Uh, so instead of isolating the Americas in Africa and Oceania, uh, it's going to be all 01:05:57.300 --> 01:05:58.420 combined together. 01:05:58.420 --> 01:06:03.540 And so there'll be, you know, a point where we can interact and, and, uh, learn from each 01:06:03.540 --> 01:06:04.180 other globally. 01:06:04.180 --> 01:06:07.380 Like, I, I just think that's a, that's a great place to be. 01:06:07.620 --> 01:06:09.580 Keith is coming up to save the day. 01:06:09.580 --> 01:06:13.980 In Proverbs, the name of the Lord is a strong tower, the righteous run into, not fall into 01:06:13.980 --> 01:06:16.860 it and, uh, and, uh, is safe. 01:06:17.240 --> 01:06:20.300 Um, I wrote a blog about this a while back. 01:06:20.580 --> 01:06:23.860 Um, I need to pull that out. 01:06:23.980 --> 01:06:24.960 Who'd I write that for? 01:06:27.360 --> 01:06:28.600 It's a good question, Jeff. 01:06:28.660 --> 01:06:30.080 I may have wrote that for leadership network. 01:06:30.180 --> 01:06:31.380 I'd have to, I'd have to fall back. 01:06:31.700 --> 01:06:38.000 Um, I equated, uh, the strong tower to the steeple, um, which is, uh, another conversation 01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:39.000 about buildings. 01:06:39.900 --> 01:06:41.020 Um, cool. 01:06:41.420 --> 01:06:42.380 Uh, pastor D. 01:06:42.520 --> 01:06:42.700 Yeah. 01:06:42.800 --> 01:06:43.060 Cool. 01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:44.920 Uh, WhatsApp makes sense. 01:06:45.080 --> 01:06:47.300 Totally, totally does in their context. 01:06:48.020 --> 01:06:54.320 Um, Steve Reed, uh, that'll be the next song I sing. 01:06:55.340 --> 01:06:56.940 Kumbaya, my Lord. 01:06:57.500 --> 01:06:58.100 All right. 01:06:58.280 --> 01:07:00.680 I think that's the first time I've sung Kumbaya in a decade. 01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:01.800 Thanks for that, Steve. 01:07:01.900 --> 01:07:06.060 I appreciate the, uh, I am not related to Steve. 01:07:06.480 --> 01:07:10.720 Um, Oh, I just exited out. 01:07:11.300 --> 01:07:13.420 Well, I was almost, I was done with that aspect. 01:07:14.200 --> 01:07:19.380 Um, I am not related to Steve, although I've actually had people ask me that a couple of 01:07:19.380 --> 01:07:19.640 times. 01:07:19.820 --> 01:07:21.220 Steve, people think we're related. 01:07:21.780 --> 01:07:25.540 We talk too much on, on WhatsApp and, and, and discord, I guess. 01:07:26.520 --> 01:07:27.820 What else we got people? 01:07:27.960 --> 01:07:29.080 It's the after show. 01:07:30.340 --> 01:07:30.780 Nothing. 01:07:31.480 --> 01:07:33.160 I'll hang out for five more minutes. 01:07:33.700 --> 01:07:36.800 I've got my EDM group coming up here. 01:07:37.080 --> 01:07:40.020 Um, America's we're on week 11. 01:07:41.020 --> 01:07:52.780 Um, and so I've got to rehash, um, I've got to make sure I'm all caught up on the material. 01:07:53.340 --> 01:07:58.100 Uh, this orchestra, tall, skinny Kiwi, this orchestra has a read section. 01:07:58.200 --> 01:07:58.780 Yes, it does. 01:07:59.240 --> 01:08:03.680 Um, uh, tall, skinny. 01:08:03.840 --> 01:08:05.440 Is it 5 AM where you are right now? 01:08:10.620 --> 01:08:11.220 5 AM. 01:08:12.300 --> 01:08:14.680 Like I'm, I'm trying to reflect back here, man. 01:08:14.740 --> 01:08:17.360 That's, it is O dark early for you. 01:08:17.400 --> 01:08:19.380 My friend, 15 hours away from where we are now. 01:08:20.420 --> 01:08:22.240 Um, thanks for being here. 01:08:22.740 --> 01:08:26.320 Steve Reed makes a comment that we have the same dad. 01:08:27.320 --> 01:08:27.800 Okay. 01:08:27.900 --> 01:08:28.420 Well played. 01:08:29.200 --> 01:08:32.100 Um, I, I am corrected. 01:08:32.660 --> 01:08:33.920 Uh, it is 8 AM. 01:08:34.780 --> 01:08:35.480 It's a little tall, skinny. 01:08:35.860 --> 01:08:38.760 Um, enjoy your coffee. 01:08:38.840 --> 01:08:39.900 I got decaf right here. 01:08:40.160 --> 01:08:41.020 Uh, I've been drinking. 01:08:43.080 --> 01:08:44.840 That may be my third or fourth cup. 01:08:44.940 --> 01:08:45.860 I'm, I'm not sure today. 01:08:46.680 --> 01:08:51.160 Um, I've been, I, you know, I used to make fun of people who drank decaf coffee, but I've 01:08:51.160 --> 01:08:52.960 been leaning more into it as of late. 01:08:53.440 --> 01:08:57.180 Uh, I just, I need coffee in my life, man. 01:08:57.520 --> 01:09:00.580 I water, dirty water with ground up mud. 01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:02.660 I mean, who would not want to drink that? 01:09:04.280 --> 01:09:04.680 Cool. 01:09:07.320 --> 01:09:09.520 Messaging us from the future. 01:09:09.640 --> 01:09:09.820 Yeah. 01:09:09.840 --> 01:09:11.380 That happens to me all the time, Micah. 01:09:11.380 --> 01:09:18.340 Um, when I talked to friends down in, in New Zealand, I, I am constantly in, in, uh, the 01:09:18.340 --> 01:09:23.760 other country that's down there, Australia, I'm constantly like, Hey, how was, how was, 01:09:23.880 --> 01:09:25.200 how's tomorrow working for you? 01:09:25.360 --> 01:09:26.000 Is it, is it good? 01:09:27.100 --> 01:09:28.040 I, I, I made that. 01:09:28.120 --> 01:09:28.340 It's funny. 01:09:28.380 --> 01:09:30.060 I made that joke this morning with South Africa. 01:09:31.020 --> 01:09:32.780 Um, yeah. 01:09:34.440 --> 01:09:35.580 Micah, I'm man. 01:09:35.620 --> 01:09:36.340 I'm, I'm excited. 01:09:36.420 --> 01:09:37.420 You're hanging out with us. 01:09:37.660 --> 01:09:41.100 I'm, I'm, I'm really excited to see what's, what's coming up. 01:09:41.180 --> 01:09:42.380 You asked the question yesterday. 01:09:42.760 --> 01:09:46.460 I'm having a conversation like right after this to dig into it. 01:09:46.460 --> 01:09:49.860 So I'll, uh, I'll get back to you on that right around the corner. 01:09:50.720 --> 01:09:52.140 Um, tall skin of Kiwi. 01:09:52.240 --> 01:09:53.400 I'm a little disappointed in you. 01:09:53.500 --> 01:09:55.880 I have black tea with milk. 01:09:57.360 --> 01:09:58.420 Is that like a chai? 01:09:59.300 --> 01:10:00.620 Isn't chai tea, black tea? 01:10:01.940 --> 01:10:05.120 I think chai tea is black tea, but he didn't say chai tea. 01:10:06.200 --> 01:10:09.760 Did you, have you, the joke from Spider-Man into the Spider-Verse? 01:10:10.200 --> 01:10:11.900 It's like chai, chai tea. 01:10:12.400 --> 01:10:14.080 You don't say tea tea, chai is tea. 01:10:14.160 --> 01:10:16.080 So why would you say chai tea instead of just chai? 01:10:16.580 --> 01:10:18.140 Don't say, nobody says tea tea. 01:10:19.420 --> 01:10:20.680 I love that line. 01:10:20.680 --> 01:10:21.380 That's so good. 01:10:23.400 --> 01:10:25.060 So it's maybe one of my favorite movies. 01:10:26.380 --> 01:10:34.060 I would argue Spider-Man into the Spider-Verse was the best sequel of any movie ever. 01:10:35.140 --> 01:10:37.620 And actually I do have a degree in radio TV film. 01:10:37.760 --> 01:10:40.880 So I am not just ignorant when I say crap like that. 01:10:40.940 --> 01:10:43.420 I have a college degree that would back me up. 01:10:43.460 --> 01:10:43.560 Yeah. 01:10:43.560 --> 01:10:44.960 My degree was in radio TV film. 01:10:45.040 --> 01:10:48.940 I had a professor tell me once, Jeff, it is very clear to me that you don't watch enough 01:10:48.940 --> 01:10:52.540 TV and you're going to fail out of this course unless you watch more TV. 01:10:54.620 --> 01:10:59.960 I never checked out a book out of the college library the entire five years. 01:11:00.040 --> 01:11:00.400 No, I'm just kidding. 01:11:00.480 --> 01:11:00.960 It's four and a half. 01:11:01.180 --> 01:11:04.760 But the entire four and a half years it took me to get, never once, never once checked out 01:11:04.760 --> 01:11:05.060 a book. 01:11:05.460 --> 01:11:05.940 True story. 01:11:06.980 --> 01:11:07.340 Okay. 01:11:07.440 --> 01:11:11.460 So some other people are drinking black tea with milk. 01:11:11.660 --> 01:11:12.980 I'm very disappointed. 01:11:13.380 --> 01:11:15.060 I don't put milk in black tea. 01:11:15.720 --> 01:11:17.620 So this is surprising to me. 01:11:18.020 --> 01:11:19.020 Black tea with milk. 01:11:19.480 --> 01:11:19.840 Okay. 01:11:19.940 --> 01:11:20.700 That's good to know. 01:11:20.780 --> 01:11:21.740 Thank you for sharing, Micah. 01:11:22.340 --> 01:11:23.400 Earl Grey Hot. 01:11:23.740 --> 01:11:23.940 Okay. 01:11:23.960 --> 01:11:25.020 I've had some Earl Grey. 01:11:25.380 --> 01:11:26.520 By the way, Jean-Luc Picard. 01:11:26.920 --> 01:11:27.960 His favorite tea is Earl Grey. 01:11:28.320 --> 01:11:33.240 Hat, hat, hat tipped flat cap for that, that reference. 01:11:34.540 --> 01:11:35.360 English Breakfast. 01:11:35.560 --> 01:11:37.240 That's what I've started drinking recently. 01:11:37.820 --> 01:11:38.920 And I wasn't that impressed. 01:11:39.820 --> 01:11:45.260 So maybe I got to add milk to, like, I normally like, I mean, I drink, I don't put cream or 01:11:45.260 --> 01:11:51.040 sugar in any of my coffee, but I just have not been that impressed with the English tea 01:11:51.040 --> 01:11:51.560 strong. 01:11:51.780 --> 01:11:54.100 So maybe I, I gotta, I gotta break it down. 01:11:54.600 --> 01:11:57.040 Um, Lion Witch and the Wardrobe. 01:11:57.120 --> 01:11:58.940 I'm sure that's a reference to a book. 01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:00.320 I just, I know it's a book. 01:12:00.380 --> 01:12:04.020 I know I'm lost in that, uh, straight up green tea. 01:12:04.880 --> 01:12:08.280 Stacy's from, Stacy, you said today, are you from Japan? 01:12:09.820 --> 01:12:11.240 Uh, somewhere in Asia. 01:12:12.280 --> 01:12:13.920 I, I feel bad I should know this. 01:12:14.440 --> 01:12:15.100 He said it today. 01:12:15.120 --> 01:12:16.820 And I was like, I think that's the first time he told me that. 01:12:16.900 --> 01:12:19.320 I'm pretty sure it was Japan, uh, green tea. 01:12:19.720 --> 01:12:22.760 Uh, so stereotypes aside, Stacy likes green tea. 01:12:23.340 --> 01:12:31.840 Um, I will do, I'll do green tea with, um, sushi and I do sushi on a regular, regular basis. 01:12:31.840 --> 01:12:34.340 Yes, she is, uh, Japanese. 01:12:34.500 --> 01:12:35.160 That's, that's what I thought. 01:12:35.260 --> 01:12:35.540 Excited. 01:12:35.880 --> 01:12:39.820 We've got, um, Japanese represented on, on staff with us. 01:12:40.280 --> 01:12:40.980 Uh, yes. 01:12:41.100 --> 01:12:45.160 So, um, uh, uh, Pastor D got, uh, the Picard reference. 01:12:45.400 --> 01:12:48.420 What did he say to, uh, um, number two, make it so. 01:12:48.560 --> 01:12:49.640 Wasn't that what he always said to Riker? 01:12:50.300 --> 01:12:51.000 Make it so. 01:12:51.580 --> 01:12:57.360 I had a, um, yeah, I don't know that I want to tell that story. 01:12:57.920 --> 01:13:01.460 I'm just, I started to go down the road and I was like, that story does not end well. 01:13:02.840 --> 01:13:05.880 Maybe too embarrassing for this crowd, for me in front of this crowd. 01:13:05.880 --> 01:13:13.140 So never, I don't think I've ever stopped a story intentionally, but I'm, I'm, I'm not 01:13:13.140 --> 01:13:14.340 going there for that, for that one. 01:13:14.760 --> 01:13:20.280 Uh, you need to do loose leaf, uh, quick bags, uh, uh, tea dust. 01:13:20.380 --> 01:13:20.680 Okay. 01:13:20.880 --> 01:13:21.320 All right. 01:13:21.380 --> 01:13:24.100 Now listen, I'll, I told Stacy today I'll do anything once. 01:13:24.660 --> 01:13:26.360 Um, I'm all, I'm all about that. 01:13:28.120 --> 01:13:31.000 Uh, Bigelow, I do Bigelow. 01:13:31.160 --> 01:13:33.200 Like my, my daughter does Bigelow. 01:13:33.620 --> 01:13:34.820 My daughter loves tea. 01:13:35.440 --> 01:13:37.080 Uh, not, not so much for me. 01:13:37.440 --> 01:13:38.500 So that's, that's good. 01:13:39.040 --> 01:13:44.140 Um, this is the, this is the after show with the, the town hall meeting. 01:13:46.500 --> 01:13:48.960 Sitting around discussing tea. 01:13:48.960 --> 01:14:03.660 Uh, TT, uh, Stacy, uh, has been, uh, really, uh, getting into, uh, I, I will mispronounce 01:14:03.660 --> 01:14:03.940 that. 01:14:04.500 --> 01:14:05.020 What is that? 01:14:05.080 --> 01:14:05.400 Jamaica? 01:14:07.220 --> 01:14:07.660 Okay. 01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:09.040 Melanie's more my style. 01:14:09.460 --> 01:14:12.080 Drinking coffee with creamer, but I like tea too. 01:14:12.620 --> 01:14:14.960 Black teas, uh, with milk, green tea straight. 01:14:15.660 --> 01:14:19.160 Um, and wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Stacy, you don't do sushi. 01:14:20.620 --> 01:14:21.620 I'm, I'm confused. 01:14:22.900 --> 01:14:23.840 Like, what are you? 01:14:30.020 --> 01:14:37.000 Isn't that like being Italian and not liking pizza or American and not eating junk food? 01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:39.200 Like, I, I don't, I don't understand. 01:14:39.600 --> 01:14:41.420 I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm lost right now. 01:14:42.100 --> 01:14:44.900 Although evidently, whatever that word Mike has said is, is legit. 01:14:45.040 --> 01:14:46.220 And so I'm happy there. 01:14:47.100 --> 01:14:52.520 Um, I totally couldn't have hung around for the after normally, but I'm home sick with 01:14:52.520 --> 01:14:54.260 my little girl who is vomiting. 01:14:54.400 --> 01:14:55.200 Oh, thanks for sharing. 01:14:55.360 --> 01:14:56.440 So I have the free time. 01:14:57.080 --> 01:14:59.820 Um, yeah, no, we normally don't do an after show. 01:15:00.080 --> 01:15:04.160 As a matter of fact, uh, the streams on Tuesday, I'm trying to get them to like 45 minutes, 01:15:04.160 --> 01:15:07.760 trying to shorten, uh, just had a lot to pack in today. 01:15:09.420 --> 01:15:12.440 And I got, I got slowed down a little bit at the beginning. 01:15:13.260 --> 01:15:16.900 Um, ramping up was just, this takes a little bit of time. 01:15:18.340 --> 01:15:19.900 Oh, sorry to hear about your daughter. 01:15:21.300 --> 01:15:26.840 I had that a couple of weeks ago between my daughter, my son, and I, we were like constantly 01:15:26.840 --> 01:15:31.380 sick for like four weeks, I think five weeks, almost just rotated back and forth. 01:15:31.520 --> 01:15:34.460 My wife teaches at the school where my kids go to school. 01:15:35.140 --> 01:15:38.980 And so, and then I'm basically a hermit, you know, I really don't leave the house. 01:15:39.340 --> 01:15:41.320 Um, and I don't do crowds. 01:15:43.140 --> 01:15:50.240 And so it just, it just like, you know, replicates whenever sickness, one gets it, one comes home, 01:15:50.300 --> 01:15:50.820 they get better. 01:15:50.900 --> 01:15:54.600 Another one gets it just in time to come home when the other one goes back and somewhere 01:15:54.600 --> 01:15:55.960 along the way I, I work it. 01:15:55.960 --> 01:16:02.620 And so, yeah, definitely, definitely can relate to constant sick, um, in USA, but English 01:16:02.620 --> 01:16:08.260 tea, like PG tips and Yorkshire gold, uh, I don't like Bigelow or Lipton. 01:16:08.320 --> 01:16:09.160 What do you got against Lipton? 01:16:09.860 --> 01:16:10.260 I don't know. 01:16:10.400 --> 01:16:13.360 I don't, I don't, Lipton, I feel like it's strong. 01:16:13.640 --> 01:16:14.920 My dad drinks Lipton. 01:16:17.360 --> 01:16:24.880 You know, I always feel like I'm about to say this as I'm drinking out of a Starbucks mug, 01:16:24.980 --> 01:16:31.660 but I always feel like the, the commercialized product, the, that like, it's like everywhere 01:16:31.660 --> 01:16:34.960 is, is not that, is not as good as some of the lower ones. 01:16:35.300 --> 01:16:40.180 And so like, you know, Lipton, the ones that everybody's heard of, you know, I'm more like 01:16:40.180 --> 01:16:42.320 the, you know, the stuff nobody's ever heard of. 01:16:42.540 --> 01:16:42.900 Yeah, sure. 01:16:42.920 --> 01:16:46.660 Maybe they lace it with like cocaine or something, but you know, you only live once, right? 01:16:46.660 --> 01:16:48.480 Like I said, I'll do anything at least once. 01:16:49.020 --> 01:16:49.840 So I'm kidding. 01:16:49.900 --> 01:16:50.520 I won't do that. 01:16:50.920 --> 01:16:51.600 Uh, yeah. 01:16:51.700 --> 01:16:52.560 Thanks for sharing. 01:16:52.820 --> 01:16:56.220 I don't know that I, I, I feel that, but no, I'm kidding, Micah. 01:16:56.320 --> 01:16:56.700 It's good. 01:16:57.240 --> 01:16:59.080 Uh, it's green tea and roasted grain. 01:16:59.260 --> 01:16:59.760 Oh, okay. 01:16:59.960 --> 01:17:01.360 That's roasted grain. 01:17:04.520 --> 01:17:04.960 Okay. 01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:06.380 All right. 01:17:06.400 --> 01:17:06.760 I'll bite. 01:17:06.920 --> 01:17:08.180 Send me, send me a link. 01:17:08.880 --> 01:17:10.400 I'll, I'll buy some and try it. 01:17:10.460 --> 01:17:12.800 I would be, I'd be interested in that. 01:17:16.920 --> 01:17:21.080 By the way, I'm drinking Dunkin' Donuts decaf coffee that I got out of my Keurig. 01:17:21.800 --> 01:17:25.640 So, uh, when I'm talking about commercialized, yeah, I'm really lazy too. 01:17:25.960 --> 01:17:30.300 And so I want stuff easy, um, in a work environment. 01:17:30.300 --> 01:17:32.520 And then it's a known story. 01:17:32.620 --> 01:17:34.940 I may have told this here in the church digital. 01:17:35.480 --> 01:17:38.580 I had, you know, I'm going to turn the screen off here for a minute. 01:17:39.180 --> 01:17:40.280 I got nothing better to do today. 01:17:40.920 --> 01:17:46.540 Um, when we launched the church, when we launched ebeliever.com right out of college, 01:17:46.540 --> 01:17:54.340 uh, it was actually a toss up between us doing, um, ebeliever.com. 01:17:54.400 --> 01:17:58.320 The first online community, 40,000 digital. 01:17:58.540 --> 01:18:00.600 We were doing Facebook before Facebook was doing Facebook. 01:18:00.960 --> 01:18:06.120 Like it was either that, which is what I wanted to do, which I felt God calling us to do. 01:18:07.380 --> 01:18:10.800 My wife wanted to start her entrepreneur business as well. 01:18:11.560 --> 01:18:15.060 And, uh, we decided that we couldn't do too. 01:18:15.060 --> 01:18:18.300 It was too much of a risk to do two entrepreneur businesses at the same time. 01:18:18.920 --> 01:18:24.240 My wife wanted to open a coffee house at, uh, where we were at Texas Christian university, 01:18:24.380 --> 01:18:25.580 TCU and forward, Texas. 01:18:26.080 --> 01:18:28.420 There was no college university anywhere. 01:18:28.620 --> 01:18:33.000 There's no, um, coffee house anywhere around the university. 01:18:33.000 --> 01:18:34.180 And this is before Starbucks. 01:18:35.120 --> 01:18:37.260 And, um, it was funny. 01:18:37.280 --> 01:18:38.800 Like we, that was the fight. 01:18:39.080 --> 01:18:45.320 That was the kind of the trade-off back and forth between, um, what we're going to do. 01:18:45.380 --> 01:18:45.900 And I won. 01:18:46.260 --> 01:18:46.700 I don't know. 01:18:47.260 --> 01:18:49.060 Starbucks, I have a feeling would have put us out of business. 01:18:49.260 --> 01:18:52.000 So I told that story and somebody's like, well, Jeff, you could have been Starbucks before 01:18:52.000 --> 01:18:52.740 Starbucks, Starbucks. 01:18:53.360 --> 01:18:55.560 No, I don't, I don't think it would have played that way. 01:18:56.620 --> 01:18:58.780 Um, okay. 01:18:59.140 --> 01:19:00.360 So let's get it. 01:19:00.400 --> 01:19:01.360 Let's get an education here. 01:19:01.620 --> 01:19:03.420 There are a few types of sushi that aren't raw. 01:19:03.860 --> 01:19:06.420 Inari, football shaped shrimp, California roll, tempura roll. 01:19:06.600 --> 01:19:08.580 So you'll eat non-raw sushi. 01:19:09.540 --> 01:19:11.120 Uh, California roll tempura. 01:19:11.320 --> 01:19:11.800 That's fine. 01:19:12.920 --> 01:19:16.020 But anything that's got raw, you won't. 01:19:16.800 --> 01:19:17.160 Inari. 01:19:17.360 --> 01:19:20.280 I'm trying to think what Inari is that I don't know. 01:19:20.600 --> 01:19:20.840 Okay. 01:19:21.260 --> 01:19:22.340 I do a lot of sushi. 01:19:22.680 --> 01:19:24.560 We eat sushi maybe two or three times a month. 01:19:25.180 --> 01:19:29.320 That's my, that's my wife's and I quick, I say quick, nice, a date place. 01:19:29.800 --> 01:19:36.580 We know the, um, we know the owner of the sushi, the big sushi chain in Miami. 01:19:36.580 --> 01:19:39.140 It's called Sushi Maki in South Florida. 01:19:39.380 --> 01:19:41.120 They've got, I don't know, 12, 15 locations. 01:19:41.120 --> 01:19:43.380 And so like, we just, we've got a lot of friends there. 01:19:44.020 --> 01:19:45.380 Uh, you know, it's the low file. 01:19:45.540 --> 01:19:46.140 So it's true. 01:19:46.400 --> 01:19:48.980 We've got four kids and we were collectively sick for two months. 01:19:49.200 --> 01:19:49.500 Yes. 01:19:49.900 --> 01:19:50.720 Oh my gosh. 01:19:50.720 --> 01:19:52.740 It just goes and goes and goes. 01:19:53.320 --> 01:19:54.720 Uh, so much guys. 01:19:54.820 --> 01:19:55.680 I have to go. 01:19:55.960 --> 01:19:56.720 Um, all right. 01:19:56.720 --> 01:19:57.820 So let's, let's do this. 01:19:58.300 --> 01:20:00.140 Uh, sorry to offend. 01:20:00.640 --> 01:20:06.600 Uh, but I had a, a lady ask me if pure leaf tea was real tea, like Snapple. 01:20:06.600 --> 01:20:14.280 Oh, even I know that I don't want to touch that one. 01:20:14.480 --> 01:20:15.160 Oh man. 01:20:15.700 --> 01:20:17.560 Not that there's anything wrong with Snapple. 01:20:18.580 --> 01:20:26.760 So yeah, that's, I think there's more sugar than tea in Snapple. 01:20:27.940 --> 01:20:30.460 Once again, you know, it's, it's not the stuff you buy in mass. 01:20:31.260 --> 01:20:32.200 I'm a food snob. 01:20:32.520 --> 01:20:33.200 I'm a coffee. 01:20:33.320 --> 01:20:33.820 I'm a liquid. 01:20:33.920 --> 01:20:34.580 I'm not a food snob. 01:20:34.640 --> 01:20:35.100 I take it back. 01:20:35.180 --> 01:20:36.140 I'm a, I'm a liquid snob. 01:20:36.720 --> 01:20:40.040 Um, unless I'm lazy and then, you know, just drink whatever. 01:20:40.400 --> 01:20:41.140 All right, y'all. 01:20:42.040 --> 01:20:43.280 It has been really fun. 01:20:44.320 --> 01:20:44.600 Yes. 01:20:44.820 --> 01:20:45.060 Yes. 01:20:45.060 --> 01:20:45.920 I've, I've enjoyed this. 01:20:46.120 --> 01:20:48.680 We're going to do the town halls three or four times a year. 01:20:49.400 --> 01:20:51.680 Um, Snapple takes me back to the nineties. 01:20:52.260 --> 01:20:52.880 Uh, yeah. 01:20:52.880 --> 01:20:53.720 With Joe Cola. 01:20:54.240 --> 01:20:56.300 We were talking about Joe Cola the other day. 01:20:56.460 --> 01:20:58.760 Uh, that, that came up in a, in one of the streams. 01:20:59.120 --> 01:21:00.200 And so, yeah, man. 01:21:00.320 --> 01:21:03.860 Hey, Micah is, it's, I mean, it's always great to hang out with you. 01:21:03.860 --> 01:21:09.980 Uh, and, and the rest of you, Pastor D, uh, Melanie, Stacy, uh, there is way too 01:21:09.980 --> 01:21:12.040 many flat cap, Steve. 01:21:12.560 --> 01:21:17.460 Um, I mean, I feel like Kiwi, I feel like I could just keep scrolling here and, uh, figure 01:21:17.460 --> 01:21:17.780 it out. 01:21:18.340 --> 01:21:22.940 And there's more even watching silently in the background, but honestly, I got to shut 01:21:22.940 --> 01:21:25.420 up because there's other stuff I got to do. 01:21:25.760 --> 01:21:32.320 I got to, I actually, I got to have a couple of conversations, um, uh, with the board. 01:21:32.320 --> 01:21:33.640 And then I got my cohort. 01:21:33.700 --> 01:21:35.700 I got to lead in 30 minutes, but I'm going to go. 01:21:36.280 --> 01:21:38.300 And so I hope this was good. 01:21:38.480 --> 01:21:42.400 Looking forward to the conference, looking forward to EDM, looking forward to pray, looking 01:21:42.400 --> 01:21:50.660 forward to, uh, prayer, uh, guided prayer, looking forward to gaming outpost and more. 01:21:51.340 --> 01:21:56.220 But for everybody else who's been hanging out with me today, this is Jeff from the church 01:21:56.220 --> 01:21:56.560 digital. 01:21:56.560 --> 01:21:59.140 Thanks for hanging out with us on this stream. 01:21:59.140 --> 01:22:00.580 And we'll see you next time on the show. 01:22:00.860 --> 01:22:02.020 And the music fades out. 01:22:02.780 --> 01:22:03.500 Have a good one.