WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:13.720 all right hey everybody welcome to the church digital podcast episode three hundred and thirty 00:00:13.720 --> 00:00:19.000 three we've done three hundred and thirty three conversations centered around digital ministry 00:00:19.000 --> 00:00:26.020 i think we launched this thing twenty eighteen twenty nineteen maybe i'd have to really go back 00:00:26.020 --> 00:00:33.440 and look but it's been five or six years over 300 conversations uh it's been a lot of fun over the 00:00:33.440 --> 00:00:39.200 years uh doing some of this if you want you want to go back you want to listen to bad audio go back 00:00:39.200 --> 00:00:45.000 and listen to like episode one the first conversation i ever had uh was with a guy uh tyler 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:50.600 sansom i love tyler tyler was actually probably one of the most interviewed people on the show here 00:00:50.600 --> 00:00:55.860 some of the stuff he's doing with church anywhere is incredible physical churches that really understand 00:00:55.860 --> 00:01:01.680 digital mission work tyler was really a pioneer and just happened to fall into a church that 00:01:01.680 --> 00:01:06.640 really backed him and ran with it and so it's really cool to see that but it was arguably one 00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:11.360 of the worst interviews i've ever done in the history of time it's funny actually go back and 00:01:11.360 --> 00:01:18.040 listen you know i say ums and ahs and you knows a lot i'm not a really polished speaker and so i do 00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:24.740 use transition words to help my brain kind of catch up with my mouth or my mouth catch up with my brain 00:01:24.740 --> 00:01:29.720 probably is a better way to say that and for those those first i don't know maybe 20 or 30 interviews 00:01:29.720 --> 00:01:35.500 like i would like i say like a lot too i don't know if you caught that but i would literally like 00:01:35.500 --> 00:01:46.420 scrape each um and ah and like out i would cut it i i would it's post work was like hours the idea of 00:01:46.420 --> 00:01:52.940 doing a conversation live like this where people are hearing it in real time no no way i could do that 00:01:52.940 --> 00:01:58.060 and uh you know it's amazing what 300 plus interviews will do all of a sudden people like 00:01:58.060 --> 00:02:02.000 you're you know you're really a good interviewer like you really make people feel at home it's like 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:11.560 i guess that that's fine uh after doing 300 of them what is that 200 24 hours a day 00:02:11.920 --> 00:02:22.000 so that would be 10 plus days that would be 240 uh so 25 percent of 10 would be 12 that's almost two weeks 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:29.040 worth of talking straight nothing about digital mission i listen i challenge you uh listening audience out 00:02:29.040 --> 00:02:39.200 there binge the church digital podcast all 240 episodes for it if you want more than just audio i'm pretty sure we've got 00:02:39.200 --> 00:02:46.260 video for at least 250 of that of those episodes on youtube go for it binge i challenge you 00:02:46.260 --> 00:02:53.220 you don't need that much jeff reed in your life so maybe that maybe that's a bad idea hey you know 00:02:53.220 --> 00:03:01.320 we've got we got some people hanging out with us on youtube grateful for that uh methos uh from ohio 00:03:01.320 --> 00:03:09.460 says hello it's been fun he's been hanging out with us a lot uh white beard tom mcguire jumps in came in 00:03:09.460 --> 00:03:16.160 early he was at part of he was the first one here and i started a little late because i was making my 00:03:16.160 --> 00:03:22.940 coffee i want to hat hat tip my my coffee mug here you see this the little uh blockhead from from lego 00:03:22.940 --> 00:03:29.040 and so i just spilled my coffee all over my table and i wrote notes on my table and i spilled coffee on 00:03:29.040 --> 00:03:35.880 it so now it's it's all weird but at least it's fragrant in the room uh very good uh steve steve's in 00:03:35.880 --> 00:03:41.400 there saying hey life capture is saying hey as well how's it going man always good to see life capture 00:03:41.400 --> 00:03:48.880 enjoy that i can see the ums and haws in waveform uh so i didn't have to listen to it yeah you can do 00:03:48.880 --> 00:03:56.300 and now listen ai man they do all sorts of stuff uh and uh with the plugins and and cut that 00:03:56.300 --> 00:04:02.060 back in the day like we had to do it manually and now ai just does all that you click a button 00:04:02.060 --> 00:04:08.580 and it mutes everything and it's technology i tell you like i'm really i'm really excited 00:04:08.580 --> 00:04:15.320 methos is phantom methos and yeah definitely it's good to see you sir um i you know i tell my kids like 00:04:15.320 --> 00:04:22.360 the stuff that my kids are doing my daughter's 16 my son's 14 and the stuff the stuff that they're 00:04:22.360 --> 00:04:28.140 doing in engineering and programming and coding uh and the the abilities they have to do stuff 00:04:28.140 --> 00:04:33.440 like and and we're we're intentionally training them not to use ai but at the same time also 00:04:33.440 --> 00:04:39.180 understanding what ai can do and the power of that oh my gosh this this next generation there's going to 00:04:39.180 --> 00:04:44.480 be untold capacities of that and then of course someone will weaponize ai and then it'll all be 00:04:44.480 --> 00:04:50.700 over but at least we will enjoy it until that point you know it's just know it's going to happen but 00:04:50.700 --> 00:04:57.220 until the point that it does happen rock and roll baby let's uh let's go yeah hey uh so we got a 00:04:57.220 --> 00:05:03.360 meeting happening in real time uh simianski is catching up with phantom methos and so fun to see this 00:05:03.360 --> 00:05:08.240 happening right here in youtube you know once again the church digital bringing people together which we 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:16.120 did in a big way last week you know we did a little thing called the digital missionary conference 00:05:16.120 --> 00:05:24.420 i i gotta tell you uh in my in the grand scheme of what i thought the digital missionary conference 00:05:24.420 --> 00:05:32.500 was going to be and what had actually happened it was freaking ridiculous i am so excited to see what 00:05:32.500 --> 00:05:39.380 happened uh on uh was it april 2nd you know actually the day we wanted to do the conference i'll just 00:05:39.380 --> 00:05:43.920 give you the sneak tip uh sneak peek we wanted to do it i wanted to do it tuesday instead of a wednesday 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:51.760 and so i i was looking at april 1st and i was like no i i can't i cannot do a digital missionary 00:05:51.760 --> 00:05:59.160 conference april 1st like there there's no way i like people will think it's a joke and won't show 00:05:59.160 --> 00:06:05.100 up and so okay we'll do it april 2nd that's fine it was so good we had you know as as near as we can 00:06:05.100 --> 00:06:13.800 tell stat wise we had 1400 people register for the conference we had uh a thousand over a thousand 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:21.180 active uh viewers unique viewers for for the conference um it was it was really interesting 00:06:21.180 --> 00:06:26.020 like we had people were watching through altar live and we did we had some problems with altar 00:06:26.020 --> 00:06:31.200 live we may get in that a little bit but when we were doing it in virtual reality which i loved and 00:06:31.200 --> 00:06:36.960 we had we built a world in spatial vr uh vr tiger built a world exclusive for us so thankful for that 00:06:36.960 --> 00:06:45.080 um yeah metho says uh i could not attend april 1st so i'm glad it wasn't yeah definitely and we would 00:06:45.080 --> 00:06:50.220 we would do wednesday's a better day for us anyway moving forward i think wednesday is going to be the 00:06:50.220 --> 00:06:57.260 rhythm but um you know it was interesting we actually had some some bootleg conferences happening 00:06:57.260 --> 00:07:03.360 it was really like yeah i may i think we screwed up permissions on youtube and people were actually 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:08.960 watching not an altar live but they were watching straight on youtube and engaging with us and commenting 00:07:08.960 --> 00:07:13.480 on the youtube feed which we had wanted to drive all traffic through altar live but they were going 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:20.900 straight to youtube we even had and if this was you i want to know like i'm not upset i actually i love 00:07:20.900 --> 00:07:29.200 that this happened somebody was doing a bootleg conference in big screen in virtual reality they 00:07:29.200 --> 00:07:35.200 they created they put the the the feed the youtube feed up on on a big screen and created a completely 00:07:35.200 --> 00:07:42.520 separate conference in virtual reality based on on what we were doing a big screen seriously if that was 00:07:42.520 --> 00:07:48.320 you um i i want to know yeah we're we're talk live capture somebody else has streamed it to big screen 00:07:48.320 --> 00:07:56.080 i want to know who that was i and you know stacy's saying i love the bootleg conference look 00:07:56.080 --> 00:08:03.420 we created something that we could not control i mean that that's the end game with this there's so 00:08:03.420 --> 00:08:11.020 much and praise god can i just say that there was so much excitement around what we were doing 00:08:11.020 --> 00:08:18.120 that people wanted to do it in their own way i literally like you can't see i have goosebumps 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:25.560 right here just talking about this and and if it was i don't know who mr pete is if it was mr pete 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:33.460 i would love to get connected with mr pete on discord because mr pete is my hero and by the 00:08:33.460 --> 00:08:38.340 way i would love for mr pete to do that next time the idea of of taking the conference into multiple 00:08:38.340 --> 00:08:46.540 worlds why not the idea of of championing this in different ways why not and so you know let's 00:08:46.540 --> 00:08:51.380 continue seriously if one of you guys could connect me to mr pete that would be fun i i don't think i've 00:08:51.380 --> 00:09:00.140 met him along the way but i'm very excited to see that the the conference expanded beyond their wildest 00:09:00.140 --> 00:09:04.360 dreams i you know i would love this as as we're talking in here i want to ask some questions because 00:09:04.360 --> 00:09:09.100 we've got some we've got some audience that's active what was your favorite part of the digital 00:09:09.100 --> 00:09:15.080 missionary conference it was it was it speakers was it was it the groups was it the tables like what 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:22.220 really stood out to you uh through through the conference oh my gosh methos is saying here um 00:09:22.220 --> 00:09:29.220 mr pete you should definitely know who he is sometimes he's awesome 80 plus years old doing metaverse 00:09:29.220 --> 00:09:37.040 ministry seriously methos like now like friend me like you're already friends on discord please make 00:09:37.040 --> 00:09:41.820 that connection i want to meet the guy that's 80 years old doing metaverse ministry i want i want to 00:09:41.820 --> 00:09:46.580 bring him on the show i want to have a conversation i want to know this guy's story that's freaking 00:09:46.580 --> 00:09:54.580 phenomenal there are it's been surprising to me over the years uh yeah definitely yeah please you 00:09:54.580 --> 00:10:00.640 uh 80 years old you definitely need to meet him i will i will seem young yeah so yes he is 00:10:00.640 --> 00:10:09.800 the old guy let's get the 80 year old guy on here man we all look like babies pups compared to him 00:10:09.800 --> 00:10:18.300 yeah that's so funny seriously though what is what was your favorite moments um somebody get mr pete on 00:10:18.300 --> 00:10:23.360 here right now no don't do that i just can't but i don't care what was your favorite moment uh from 00:10:23.360 --> 00:10:28.920 the conference breakouts speakers what was the what was the mic drop moment for you the oh crap just 00:10:28.920 --> 00:10:34.680 got real moment what was the line what was the the takeaway what was the action step i'd love to know 00:10:34.680 --> 00:10:42.540 give throw it in chat here and and give some insight for me there were there was a couple things that 00:10:42.540 --> 00:10:48.180 that hit the fan and and and when i was booking it i i knew when i was scheduling the things out 00:10:48.180 --> 00:10:55.340 david nelms um dave you know and i said in the conference david nelms blew my mind i don't know 00:10:55.340 --> 00:11:02.860 10 12 years ago he's he said a couple things to me back in like 20 probably 2011 actually no let me get the 00:11:02.860 --> 00:11:09.360 year right 2015 maybe 2016 so like eight or nine years ago the if your disciples not making a disciple 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:15.520 are they really making are they really a disciple like that was that was a powerful thing um but for 00:11:15.520 --> 00:11:23.580 me it was the idea that he was and he said this like he was reaching as a lead pastor of a church he was 00:11:23.580 --> 00:11:31.000 reaching thousands of people like he did the math it was like his his church over the years over 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:37.500 multiple years had reached two three four thousand people whatever the number was and he walked away 00:11:37.500 --> 00:11:45.560 from that model and started a disciple making an evangelism model he he shifted the approach away from 00:11:45.560 --> 00:11:52.760 growth to multiplication and and at the end of of 16 years of multiplication his organization now the 00:11:52.760 --> 00:12:02.100 the timothy initiative reaches more people in a day than he had done in multiple years of growth ministry 00:12:02.100 --> 00:12:11.100 like they're training 180 000 missionaries this year let's let's stop and let's let's think about this 00:12:11.100 --> 00:12:20.820 over over over a 16 year career he he engaged in the idea of multiplication and uh of in in investing in 00:12:20.820 --> 00:12:24.720 people and then asking them who you look let me tell you timothy initiative at the base level 00:12:24.720 --> 00:12:31.040 uh and they're they're they're friends i can say there's nothing but respect for for the nelms father and 00:12:31.040 --> 00:12:40.100 son and the group that's running tti but day one you know bring somebody to christ day two hey who are 00:12:40.100 --> 00:12:47.380 the 10 people in your life that need to know this let's pray for them day three hey how can you share 00:12:47.380 --> 00:12:53.380 jesus with those those 10 people what would that look like and then basically the days to come the eight 00:12:53.380 --> 00:13:01.020 nine weeks of the of the of the cohort is all centered around multiplying have holding them accountable to 00:13:01.020 --> 00:13:07.900 reach out so it's very evangelical in the very relational but a very evangelical relational model 00:13:07.900 --> 00:13:17.640 and by investing in that he went from david nelms in the course of 15 16 years david nelms investing in 00:13:17.640 --> 00:13:28.060 to now 180 000 people invested in this year 100 000 churches planted globally but this year can you 00:13:28.060 --> 00:13:35.180 imagine what that would look like i mean a confession hour for me i'm 40 i'm 47 years old sure i'm not 00:13:35.180 --> 00:13:45.740 as old as as mr pete but but i'm up there the idea that by the time i retire at 65 we could be part 00:13:45.740 --> 00:13:52.240 the church digital could be part of a movement that's training a hundred thousand people to be digital 00:13:52.240 --> 00:14:00.320 missionaries utilizing digital and metaverse and virtual and and and using i mean let's 15 years from 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:04.500 now all that's going to be stale it's going to be innovation what's next to be at the tip of the spear 00:14:04.500 --> 00:14:09.820 could you imagine what it would be like to be part of an organization that was the tip of the spear 00:14:09.820 --> 00:14:21.020 innovation and missional purposes i you know i i i feel like i got a real um taste of that 00:14:21.020 --> 00:14:29.280 and got to to just a vision for for what we can be with the church digital and so for me david 00:14:29.280 --> 00:14:35.600 nelms really brought that home in a big way uh i'm seeing a lot of feedback coming in so so let me come 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:41.340 up here steve reed wasn't one thing it was seeing so many people getting excited about taking this to 00:14:41.340 --> 00:14:49.620 the next level i i agree with that steve man i was i had thought it was funny i i i i barbara 00:14:49.620 --> 00:14:55.160 and and andy they'll they'll tell you this we were talking about the conference and this is months ago 00:14:55.160 --> 00:15:01.460 when we pitched it and i said you know what we can get if we can get 200 people to show up for a 00:15:01.460 --> 00:15:08.380 digital missionary conference it's a win and um barbara's like come on jeff you gotta think bigger 00:15:08.380 --> 00:15:15.460 than that and i was like what 500 500 okay 500 she's like jeff you still gotta think bigger and i 00:15:15.460 --> 00:15:20.380 was like are you telling me you think you can get a thousand people to register for for a digital 00:15:20.380 --> 00:15:25.920 missionary conference okay fine that's on you let's let's get a thousand people to do it we had 1400 00:15:25.920 --> 00:15:31.780 people register we had and the fact that we had a thousand people show up of that 1400 the fact that 00:15:31.780 --> 00:15:38.160 it went bootleg beyond that so many people are excited and are curious about this and are looking 00:15:38.160 --> 00:15:45.800 for it and i love the fact that we get to be a voice for it here methos breakouts and tables afterwards 00:15:45.800 --> 00:15:53.560 uh were my favorite not that the speakers weren't good also no i totally get that the idea of um of 00:15:53.560 --> 00:15:59.380 connecting with people uh relationally that's actually what i loved about alter live i hated that we had 00:15:59.380 --> 00:16:05.260 the problems with the uh with the platforms as much as we did but the the ability to be relational to 00:16:05.260 --> 00:16:10.180 connect i told you all this isn't a webinar this is not where you sit back and consume this is where 00:16:10.180 --> 00:16:17.220 you lean in and dialogue and so many people were excited about that hey we got simon uh jumping in 00:16:17.220 --> 00:16:24.680 uh from uh namibia uh i'm blessed hey simon thanks for thanks for coming on uh and being a part of that 00:16:24.680 --> 00:16:30.300 uh we've got uh life capture i like the quick fire breakouts even though they're kind of unplanned 00:16:30.300 --> 00:16:35.120 give a good overview on what's going on without taking too much time away from exchanging on the topics 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:42.140 that was uh like the the micro ted talks thing we did at the end um that was a takeaway from me 00:16:42.140 --> 00:16:52.420 i i will i will be trying to work that in again for for future conferences uh i had i've never done it 00:16:52.420 --> 00:16:58.200 like that you know i've seen like the the full ted talks where every every breakout gets 15 minutes but 00:16:58.200 --> 00:17:05.440 but the five minutes the machine gun everybody gets exposure um and then you know who to go talk to 00:17:05.440 --> 00:17:10.460 in the breakout sessions for more information that was a takeaway i think we're going to see 00:17:10.460 --> 00:17:18.540 something like that that in the future and so listen the the um the ted the uh the the keynotes were good 00:17:18.540 --> 00:17:28.960 um for me like i i like learning from from the keynotes i i personally i engage more in in the 00:17:28.960 --> 00:17:36.740 breakouts and in the in the in the tables like i love networking i love connecting i love relationally 00:17:36.740 --> 00:17:44.240 talking uh with people and the ability to to hang out at those tables and to talk and meet people 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:50.960 the highlight for my entire conference listen the keynotes were great the the the conversations 00:17:50.960 --> 00:17:59.340 the being able to host and dialogue see a thousand people were so good the highlight for me was when 00:17:59.340 --> 00:18:05.520 i looked at the screen and and i was looking at the seats and and and i literally saw oj from 00:18:05.520 --> 00:18:12.260 metachurch who's the world builder for metachurch sitting next to pastor d who's uh been a digital 00:18:12.260 --> 00:18:19.380 pastor for a decade plus and has been looking for a virtual reality world builder and they're literally 00:18:19.380 --> 00:18:25.120 they're sitting next to each other in the in the aisle in the in the auditorium and alter live they 00:18:25.120 --> 00:18:29.400 can see each other i don't know if their cameras are on i don't think they had talked to each other 00:18:29.400 --> 00:18:36.760 before that and saying literally in the moment pastor d you're sitting next to oj the two of you need to 00:18:36.760 --> 00:18:43.580 have a conversation because pastor d oj can solve your problems and oj pastor d needs your help 00:18:43.580 --> 00:18:48.380 you see that's the ability when we network when we connect together with some of these things like 00:18:48.380 --> 00:18:55.560 the conference it's this idea that we are not alone and as pioneers and as innovators and it's doing 00:18:55.560 --> 00:19:01.680 something different to reach someone different there's this ideology that we are alone we're stuck in 00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:08.240 this this this this place of of isolation because nobody really identifies with us outside of the 00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:15.820 people that we're working with and and over time that gets hard and so to do the conference to do 00:19:15.820 --> 00:19:20.120 the communities like we're doing at the church digital we're going to continue to do with the church digital 00:19:20.120 --> 00:19:29.940 um that we are going to continue to push the bar on on getting people connected so what we're doing with 00:19:29.940 --> 00:19:35.580 the outposts and equipping digital missionaries and and everything we're doing is centered on the i was 00:19:35.580 --> 00:19:42.080 funny i was just talking with uh jason morris we're we're we're working on some things we're talking 00:19:42.080 --> 00:19:47.880 about some things at the equipping level i don't want to get too deep into it right now but um you know 00:19:47.880 --> 00:19:53.840 one one of one of jason's pain points he's very passionate about this very passionate about this 00:19:53.840 --> 00:20:01.400 is all of our all of our equipping all of our learning it needs to be done in community 00:20:01.400 --> 00:20:06.200 like like right now there's a pain point within the church digital really centered around 00:20:06.200 --> 00:20:13.680 the idea of of even having teaching like on demand where we would have trainings that are available to 00:20:13.680 --> 00:20:23.040 binge on demand in isolation because in in isolation training that really leans more towards consuming 00:20:23.040 --> 00:20:31.280 not towards execution what we're actually seeing is is that for execution to happen it's not training 00:20:31.280 --> 00:20:38.740 in isolation but it's training in community and so even creating a community center center on the 00:20:38.740 --> 00:20:43.640 conference like we did which feeds into the communities of facebook and whatsapp for the church digital 00:20:43.640 --> 00:20:50.180 that that's the goal is to try to move everybody from the community of the conference into it's why we 00:20:50.180 --> 00:20:56.300 pushed edm so much steeper down maybe we should have pushed tcd and and whatsapp more that's on me 00:20:56.300 --> 00:21:01.720 there's some other things i would probably structure differently overall but like i love the fact that 00:21:01.720 --> 00:21:07.020 we're educating in these communities we're training in these communities and we're holding accountable 00:21:07.020 --> 00:21:11.040 in the communities if you're going through the training we want you to see the training 00:21:11.040 --> 00:21:15.120 be executed so how is that working why is it not working and what do we need to do 00:21:15.120 --> 00:21:21.940 to help you you do it better um here i've got steve's coming in i was surprised that even though 00:21:21.940 --> 00:21:25.880 it was digital some people felt they needed to sit in the back 00:21:25.880 --> 00:21:35.300 confession hour with the church digital steve i haven't showered this morning and so uh slept in 00:21:35.300 --> 00:21:41.400 which was nice i had had an early meeting so jumped out of bed threw on t-shirt and in jeans and so i 00:21:41.400 --> 00:21:47.140 myself haven't even showered today i'm going out with a date with my wife tonight and so i'll be 00:21:47.140 --> 00:21:52.640 completely online until about you know date night date time about 6 p.m figured i might as well you 00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:58.480 know shower for my wife because i i don't want to stink too bad but i i i can relate to that um but 00:21:58.480 --> 00:22:06.760 you know the the backseat baptist see even in in altar life i do i was so proud i was so proud of 00:22:06.760 --> 00:22:12.540 the number of people that leaned into those conversations that sat in there the more that 00:22:12.540 --> 00:22:18.140 you're known is the more that you're loved and the fact that i mean sure we did have spectators on 00:22:18.140 --> 00:22:24.020 the outside but the culture of the event was to lean in so many people leaned in they sat in those 00:22:24.020 --> 00:22:29.800 seats they had those conversations they hung out in the in at the tables when the when the platform 00:22:29.800 --> 00:22:37.460 broke like it did there was like i there was urgency i gotta be in that breakout room right now 00:22:37.460 --> 00:22:44.200 why is this platform not working it was uh it was it was beautiful yeah okay tom i i always sit in 00:22:44.200 --> 00:22:49.280 the back even at the conference i've been a tech too long yeah i get that tom but you know in altar 00:22:49.280 --> 00:22:53.420 live you don't you don't have to sit in the back like there you can be a tech and sit in the front 00:22:53.420 --> 00:22:58.760 row too you know that's that's that's okay um you know tom i i just want to make sure you're alive 00:22:58.760 --> 00:23:03.040 man you you may you may not be the old guy but you're you're the you're the closest guy that's on 00:23:03.040 --> 00:23:09.960 the fringe so it's it's good to even see you here on the stream today my friend cool uh what i want to 00:23:09.960 --> 00:23:19.380 talk about what's next okay so here's what we're doing we announced a digital missionary conference 00:23:19.380 --> 00:23:24.620 the second one and so we're going to do a digital missionary conference again 00:23:24.620 --> 00:23:34.420 on uh wednesday october 8th right now if you go to missionary.digital www.missionary.digital 00:23:34.420 --> 00:23:41.800 you can pre-register and we've had 65 75 people pre-register for this upcoming digital missionary 00:23:41.800 --> 00:23:46.880 conference conference is going to be free once again um and so we're we're going to do something 00:23:46.880 --> 00:23:55.220 in that space i say something here's what i want to know if you're watching right now um what are we 00:23:55.220 --> 00:24:03.360 doing so i'm kicking around some ideas this conference did not what we just did you know like i said at the 00:24:03.360 --> 00:24:08.060 last minute i came up with this idea of the new wine skin it was kind of an intro idea but it was a 00:24:08.060 --> 00:24:14.260 very general broad conference i would love to know but yeah steve's already registered for the 00:24:14.260 --> 00:24:19.140 conference and excited about that like i said 65 or 75 already have but here's what i want to know 00:24:19.140 --> 00:24:27.520 um do i need to pick a theme do you like the conferences being broad or or do i narrow down 00:24:27.520 --> 00:24:34.360 and do we like pick on a theme for the conference overall like i don't know mental health or prayer 00:24:34.360 --> 00:24:44.360 or evangelism or discipleship like is there is there a necessity to fine-tune on on a theme and and if 00:24:44.360 --> 00:24:50.140 you think that is what is a theme you would want to see or you know should we keep it broad kind of 00:24:50.140 --> 00:24:55.580 with that would love some feedback put it in chat let me know this is something that i've been i've been 00:24:55.580 --> 00:25:03.800 wrestling with i love the the idea of themes uh and and think they're they're important to it but 00:25:03.800 --> 00:25:09.940 dedicating an entire conference to something like that i'm i'm not sure uh to be honest i've even 00:25:09.940 --> 00:25:16.140 kicked around the ideas and barbara like i told her this today and and uh she had the the look of 00:25:16.140 --> 00:25:22.660 i don't know if if i don't know how i feel about this but the idea of even doing like micro conferences 00:25:22.660 --> 00:25:29.620 that are like more finely tuned on on different topics and different themes overall um and so 00:25:29.620 --> 00:25:34.740 that's what that's interesting we've got some feedback here let's kind of work through this 00:25:34.740 --> 00:25:40.920 methods i love what's coming in uh depends is there going to be a third and a fourth conference 00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:50.080 okay yes the church digital will commit to doing two conferences a year uh for the foreseeable future 00:25:50.080 --> 00:26:00.020 um i just one i love the ministry that happened two i'll just be honest uh we with the sponsors that 00:26:00.020 --> 00:26:06.700 are there uh we were able to fund the or the organization for probably five months and so from 00:26:06.700 --> 00:26:12.300 an operational standpoint it's a win on multiple fronts uh and so we will be doing more of the 00:26:12.300 --> 00:26:19.160 conferences in the days to come one of the challenges that we ran into was um so we were talking like 00:26:19.160 --> 00:26:25.060 okay here in america i just produced a conference where i put a bunch of the majority of people were 00:26:25.060 --> 00:26:30.440 americans and it was it was a conference on an american time zone and one of the biggest problems 00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:37.040 we had was the time zone issue uh and it was also a bunch of people who look like me were were on on 00:26:37.040 --> 00:26:43.480 camera doing this and to be honest i don't want to produce a conference with a bunch of people who 00:26:43.480 --> 00:26:52.260 look like me contextualization being what it is and so like i would love to empower simon to do a digital 00:26:52.260 --> 00:26:59.140 missions conference to that's reaching europeans i would love to do conference with utope with with 00:26:59.140 --> 00:27:03.900 ebby with josh with the you know the different regions that we're we're really reaching into and 00:27:03.900 --> 00:27:10.080 and building relationships with and starting to do digital missionary conferences within those regions 00:27:10.080 --> 00:27:15.220 that are more contextualized for the for the people that are there and so we're already narrowing down 00:27:15.220 --> 00:27:21.400 a little bit in the vision because i don't think it's i don't think it's always going to be one 00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:28.140 conference it's my opinion and this this is we're getting into the uncut the raw jeff reed in this 00:27:28.140 --> 00:27:37.040 uh this is not this is not official this is like half-baked ideas in my head i want to do i want to do 00:27:37.040 --> 00:27:42.480 the mega conference once a year with the with the church digital uh and so like what we did with the 00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:49.460 digital missionary conference last week i i would love to do that every spring till you know jesus comes 00:27:49.460 --> 00:27:55.840 back i think that's a great idea what i what i'm kicking around the idea in the fall 00:27:55.840 --> 00:28:05.740 is doing more um regional takes where we you know we help simon produce a conference in in europe and 00:28:05.740 --> 00:28:10.640 and some of the outpost leaders we we equip them and start doing some of these regional conferences 00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:18.340 that may or may not be based on on october 8th you know it may not be aligned uh globally but i don't 00:28:18.340 --> 00:28:23.520 think we'll ever be able to get everybody to agree on a date globally but we can resource them and and 00:28:23.520 --> 00:28:28.320 and help them do some things in in their regions uh even branding or not branding it doesn't matter 00:28:28.320 --> 00:28:34.520 to me i just want the ideas to get out there the the the flip side of that though is that we will 00:28:34.520 --> 00:28:38.900 produce some conference at some level that's where i'm like is it going to be open or not i don't know 00:28:38.900 --> 00:28:45.220 uh life capture saying keep it open steve reed actually has a great idea reinforcing bless begin with 00:28:45.220 --> 00:28:55.040 uh shared experiences serve and um share your jesus story there um with the key uh to how to listen 00:28:55.040 --> 00:29:01.040 digitally if there's one one of the things that i would redo on the keynotes el michelle did a 00:29:01.040 --> 00:29:08.520 incredible presentation on active listening in digital space in virtual reality um the next conference i'm 00:29:08.520 --> 00:29:17.460 going to ask her to do that at the at the global level because it really was a phenomenal um conference 00:29:17.460 --> 00:29:25.820 it was a phenomenal thing that that needs to get um revisited uh simon is saying mobilizing the church 00:29:25.820 --> 00:29:35.580 yeah i mean mobilization is the area that we are uh stuck's not the right word it's the it's the area that 00:29:35.580 --> 00:29:40.940 needs the most attention for us uh simon you may be relatively new with us which is awesome 00:29:40.940 --> 00:29:46.980 our framework is connect community equip mobilize we want to connect with people digitally and with that 00:29:46.980 --> 00:29:52.380 with our digital influence we want to invite these people into a community uh digital community whatsapp 00:29:52.380 --> 00:29:57.760 discord you know things like that facebook groups because we see uh digital evangelism digital 00:29:57.760 --> 00:30:02.840 discipleship happening best at the community level because of the relational equity that's happening 00:30:02.840 --> 00:30:08.280 there and with that relationship once they find jesus we want to help them find their calling and 00:30:08.280 --> 00:30:14.600 equip them to do what god's calling them to do and then mobilize them and send them out and so 00:30:14.600 --> 00:30:20.020 organizationally confession hour we've done a really good job of connect community equip we've done a 00:30:20.020 --> 00:30:24.000 really good job of connecting community we're just now within the past three or four months really 00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:30.380 getting into equipping uh and now that we're getting some of our our digital missionaries out of equipping 00:30:30.380 --> 00:30:36.000 digital missionaries and and building out more resources at the equipping level you're going to find in the 00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:42.320 next six months we're really going to be more focused on mobilization and so mobilization may not be the 00:30:42.320 --> 00:30:52.880 theme for fall 25 i i would i could see it really being the theme of 26 if we did um if there's a series 00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:57.100 then you can have a narrow theme it makes sense that that's i mean that's what i'm wrestling with 00:30:57.100 --> 00:31:03.620 it's interesting because i want i want to narrow i want i i want to make everybody happy but i also 00:31:03.620 --> 00:31:08.680 know uh that if i try to make everybody happy i don't make anybody happy and if i make somebody happy 00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:14.480 then i make a lot of them happy and and so i'm i'm really kind of bifurcated right now i do this 00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:20.360 like this is this is my mind space where i want to make everybody happy but i know if i make everybody 00:31:20.360 --> 00:31:25.040 happy i'm not going to make anybody happy and i constantly just fight with myself on how to do 00:31:25.040 --> 00:31:32.600 that uh you can make a poll on discord or whatsapp and ask people what to have a special topic yeah i 00:31:32.600 --> 00:31:39.220 mean that that's it this is this is really a lot of that for right now is uh i'm i'm digging in and 00:31:39.220 --> 00:31:45.980 starting to talk with people and listen i i'm a i'm i'm a listener i i like to hear what people are 00:31:45.980 --> 00:31:50.300 saying and so yeah if you're if you're watching the stream i've said this time and time again if 00:31:50.300 --> 00:31:56.540 you're watching the stream live you are getting the unfiltered the raw jeffreed if you're listening 00:31:56.540 --> 00:32:01.180 to this on demand i mean you can hit me up on whatsapp and discord and share your opinion that's nice 00:32:01.180 --> 00:32:08.060 but if i click on like show add the broadcast on my screen and the chat comes up like this is where 00:32:08.060 --> 00:32:15.300 it really is is influencing me at a high level uh stacy yes we all need to learn yeah el michelle 00:32:15.300 --> 00:32:23.000 was equipping was was incredible that was when i when i scheduled her for virtual reality because i 00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:26.780 needed to fill the slot and took her out of where i was thinking on the digital broadcast 00:32:26.780 --> 00:32:32.680 there were two regrets i have for the conference overall and that was that was one of the two 00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:36.900 that was like i hate that i have to and i told her that i was like i hate that i have to do this but 00:32:36.900 --> 00:32:42.620 i need you to do this um the other thing if you're curious was and people have told me it was 00:32:42.620 --> 00:32:50.140 conferences way too packed way the crap too packed um there was no there was no breathing point i started 00:32:50.140 --> 00:32:55.440 out i started off producing a four-hour conference that ended up being a five-hour conference that ended 00:32:55.440 --> 00:33:00.920 up being a six-hour conference that ended up being a seven-hour conference and uh but i built it on the 00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:05.860 framework of a four-hour conference and it just kept growing and growing and growing and i probably 00:33:05.860 --> 00:33:12.580 should have restructured it at some point um uh so hey we got we got steve uh don't need to be 00:33:12.580 --> 00:33:20.460 worrying them here go ye digital the great commission in in a digital in a connected world the great 00:33:20.460 --> 00:33:27.720 great commission in a connected world yeah we we've done uh the the great commission but digital like 00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:32.980 that's a theme that i think i was the guy who said that i don't think i i stole that from anybody but 00:33:32.980 --> 00:33:38.940 that's that's been a theme that that we've used a lot steve uh light in the feed sharing christ in 00:33:38.940 --> 00:33:44.320 digital space man steve's like really throwing them down here click share disciple uh from wi-fi to 00:33:44.320 --> 00:33:51.300 worldwide spreading the gospel without borders that's good um yeah methos is saying it right here three days 00:33:51.300 --> 00:33:59.560 in one day is packed and if i do another i told i told leader i told my team today um if i do another 00:33:59.560 --> 00:34:05.200 seven-hour conference uh if i'm in a place where i'm doing a seven-hour conference i will make it an 00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:12.000 eight-hour conference which i will then make a two-day four-hour conferences i would break it up in in the 00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:18.280 two days and do it wednesday and thursday that was that was another miss and that just became as this 00:34:18.280 --> 00:34:30.140 thing grew and grew and grew um it just it exploded which to me is so exciting like i i i didn't walk 00:34:30.140 --> 00:34:37.440 away feeling oh my gosh i had to twist the arm of these people to speak oh my gosh all these breakout 00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:45.080 people um like they didn't want to be there they were doing me a favor it was it like nobody in the 00:34:45.080 --> 00:34:51.660 past i had to do that in the past it was like hey come speak at this and do me a favor um people 00:34:51.660 --> 00:35:00.780 people see what's happening they they they they are getting outside of us they're getting a glimpse 00:35:00.780 --> 00:35:06.860 of it and and they they want to support they want to be a part they want to understand they they want 00:35:06.860 --> 00:35:16.320 to help you doing what you're doing i the one guy i don't know that i've told who the one guy is there 00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:23.120 was one guy i really wanted to speak and uh because of scheduling timing uh it was a late ask and it 00:35:23.120 --> 00:35:28.560 just we could we couldn't get the schedule worked out but he was legitimately upset that he could not 00:35:28.560 --> 00:35:34.200 speak at this conference he's not a digital guy he's he's a pastor he's well known i want to save the 00:35:34.200 --> 00:35:39.980 bullet i'll probably do him for it for the next conference because it'll fit in uh he'll fit into 00:35:39.980 --> 00:35:48.340 what we're we're doing in the future but this is the the the larger point is is that people want to 00:35:48.340 --> 00:35:57.400 support what we're doing digitally that to me is is the big takeaway is we're not alone there are 00:35:57.400 --> 00:36:02.240 there are different ecosystems there are different people there are that want to partner with us that 00:36:02.240 --> 00:36:07.920 want to work with us i just literally just had a meeting uh with a guy um somebody from the church 00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:15.460 digital uh like an hour ago where it's pretty much like hey i almost want to bring you on as a as a 00:36:15.460 --> 00:36:21.320 partner development guy because we've got a ton of people that want to partner with us that want to 00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:27.280 share resources and knowledge base i just i need somebody to like be accountable to help us process 00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:34.880 it and work through that uh and so we're like there's i've got not spilled with coffee but i got 00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:41.440 a bunch of names written on my white desk right here of people that want to take the next step 00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:48.660 partners that want to dive in and resource our missionaries at a higher level it's oh my gosh it's 00:36:48.660 --> 00:36:53.920 so exciting like i'm getting i'm getting a glimpse of what the future looks like at the equipping and 00:36:53.920 --> 00:37:00.680 even at the mobilization level and um uh god willing man we're we're at the verge of of something 00:37:00.680 --> 00:37:07.940 really really great for you all and so hey we're gonna do we're i'm committing to uh yeah three days 00:37:07.940 --> 00:37:13.960 that's been up there a long time uh it wasn't just the length but the number of things uh within it 00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:20.020 yeah yeah it was it was it was packed in the ability to uh you know steve says time to share 00:37:20.020 --> 00:37:27.180 time to digest time to breathe um yeah we didn't we didn't we didn't get it it's that's that's a fair 00:37:27.180 --> 00:37:36.000 assessment um and i'm taking that i did not i'm trying to think so i produced physical conferences 00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:43.620 the physical conferences that i've produced you know i doing what we did at that speed you'd have 00:37:43.620 --> 00:37:50.540 walk time you'd have lunch time and things like that um you know physical i think i've done full day 00:37:50.540 --> 00:37:56.440 i've done full day conferences digitally that may have been the longest conference i've ever produced 00:37:56.440 --> 00:38:05.100 it was was much longer because like i said it just kept growing uh more and more sponsors wanted to 00:38:05.100 --> 00:38:11.620 come in more and more breakouts were needed i kept asking speakers and honest to god it was a four 00:38:11.620 --> 00:38:22.480 hour conference that just kept growing and growing and uh i lost i lost control i i with grace when i say 00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:31.120 this i'm actually glad i lost control i mean from from a from a control freak that i am 00:38:31.120 --> 00:38:43.340 i i i love the fact that this thing evolved on its own i i i think that god moves when we lose control 00:38:43.340 --> 00:38:49.940 i guess god can work through us but god can also move through some of the some of the recklessness 00:38:49.940 --> 00:38:58.220 that that's in place and so i yeah you know what actually uh stacy in planning in the planning our 00:38:58.220 --> 00:39:03.140 enthusiasm snowballed which yielded rich content squeezed in the shorts amount of time i mean yeah 00:39:03.140 --> 00:39:11.760 that's my that's my point and so love that um ian's ian's lol awesome ian i'm not i'm not used to 00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:15.120 that account for you but but good deal i'm assuming that you all right 00:39:15.120 --> 00:39:25.340 sipping away at my diet coke um what time is it oh man it's been a good book been a good stream i 00:39:25.340 --> 00:39:33.580 just i lost track of time hanging out uh with you all um yeah it's really time to share time to digest 00:39:33.580 --> 00:39:37.440 time to time to time to learn time to digest it's it's taking it from 00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:45.440 ideation uh processing it and uh applying it uh so you know you're learning new concepts you're 00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:51.480 processing it and you're applying that's some of what we probably need to build in more the table 00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:59.460 alter live i mean i love alter live if we could get alter live to to function you know be a little more 00:39:59.460 --> 00:40:04.300 stable i think it's a great environment if not we need to figure out we love the love the auditorium 00:40:04.300 --> 00:40:11.700 love the the tables um we we overstretched some of the server stuff uh for the breakouts that was 00:40:11.700 --> 00:40:18.260 where the the obvious problem was but the idea of using the tables to apply that to process what 00:40:18.260 --> 00:40:22.540 we're talking about to sit at a table maybe even have a one-on-one conversation with somebody invite 00:40:22.540 --> 00:40:27.580 your team to come in together and sit at a conference table together or to sit down with 00:40:27.580 --> 00:40:36.220 a partner and have a long conversation like there the underutilized asset was the tables some of some 00:40:36.220 --> 00:40:40.860 of the feedback that i've gotten was the best part of the show the best part of the conference was 00:40:40.860 --> 00:40:45.820 actually hanging out at the tables as people were leaving and just having the the one-on-one the free 00:40:45.820 --> 00:40:54.060 conversations throughout the entire thing and so um we will definitely lean into uh more of that 00:40:54.860 --> 00:41:01.500 in the in the in the future some other feedback coming in uh if it was a blunder uh it was some 00:41:01.500 --> 00:41:08.860 magnificent uh one fourteen hundred thousand in attendance 80 85 countries hundreds uh if not a 00:41:08.860 --> 00:41:14.940 thousand left extremely excited uh and pumped god did move yeah uh there are worse things that can happen 00:41:14.940 --> 00:41:20.940 in life than getting a thousand people to to log on and learn how to be a missional using digital and 00:41:20.940 --> 00:41:27.500 virtual technology and it was it was v1 i i've always if you learn it's built in and stacy can tell you 00:41:27.500 --> 00:41:33.740 it's built into our culture v1 is version one's better than version none stealing that from um 00:41:35.180 --> 00:41:42.060 crap who says version one's better than version none the guy that's uh the the podcaster gary v version 00:41:42.060 --> 00:41:47.980 one's better than version none um get out there and do something if you if you succeed you succeed 00:41:47.980 --> 00:41:54.460 if you fail you learn what not to do next time and uh and and try again ideation is is and what we're 00:41:54.460 --> 00:42:03.500 doing digitally it's it's so important experiment try fail fail is not stop fail is learn and and iterate 00:42:03.500 --> 00:42:09.020 and try again and try again and so we definitely succeeded it was a huge success so excited about 00:42:09.020 --> 00:42:15.500 what happened definitely learning opportunities um if anything i wish we would have done a conference 00:42:15.500 --> 00:42:21.420 we had talked about doing a conference um through the church digital in fall of 24. 00:42:22.620 --> 00:42:31.260 um and i i kind of i i kiboshed it i killed it we had just transitioned to digital missions like august 00:42:31.900 --> 00:42:38.620 of maybe july august we announced it publicly in september you know jason and i invested a ton 00:42:38.620 --> 00:42:46.460 in energy into lazon and the team invested a ton of it and and we really as an organization we really 00:42:46.460 --> 00:42:53.100 didn't know what digital missionaries was like we we were we were just starting to define it and meet 00:42:53.100 --> 00:42:58.940 and engage with people and so on our goals we wanted to do a con one conference in 24 00:43:00.060 --> 00:43:04.540 but because of our of the transition i was like no let's not let's let's pause it's not time 00:43:06.060 --> 00:43:12.060 in hindsight maybe maybe that experiment would have been worthwhile but what we did and where i feel like 00:43:12.060 --> 00:43:18.780 the doors are opening for us in the future organizationally is very exciting and um i tell you 00:43:18.780 --> 00:43:25.740 one of the one of the other wins for me i'd put this top five was was the fact that we had so many 00:43:25.740 --> 00:43:34.060 people um volunteering like i mean i sent an email maybe a couple days out i was like hey we're looking 00:43:34.060 --> 00:43:39.340 for for volunteers to help with tech support to help with running the prayer table and to help with 00:43:39.340 --> 00:43:45.900 capturing video what um you know if you've got anything uh if you're interested you know reach out 00:43:48.140 --> 00:43:56.540 maybe 15 people probably in total came in and served at some level uh that was it was interesting 00:43:56.540 --> 00:44:01.420 like some some of our leadership had no idea that was happening till day of and i was like oh my gosh 00:44:01.420 --> 00:44:07.340 like all you got all these people yeah i mean just i just asked and they they said they were interested 00:44:08.300 --> 00:44:13.340 and and to me actually um one of the board members who was involved one of the board members of the 00:44:13.340 --> 00:44:19.740 church digital reached out and he's he's like it's him he said he's like that's the most exciting thing 00:44:19.740 --> 00:44:26.860 for me about the conference because now you've got people that you're not paying that are buying into 00:44:26.860 --> 00:44:33.740 the the and owning the strategy and they're they're they're investing themselves into it into making 00:44:33.740 --> 00:44:40.380 something like this happen it was a big deal getting people to to give of their time and a lot of people 00:44:40.380 --> 00:44:46.940 volunteered to lead breakouts a lot of people dealt with tech issues a lot of people um like just 00:44:46.940 --> 00:44:52.620 invested of themselves and shared themselves uh through through the conference and and seeing that 00:44:52.620 --> 00:44:57.740 ownership of of the vision of the church digital and the idea of helping digital missionaries 00:44:58.460 --> 00:45:05.260 across 85 countries like that was a beautiful thing beautiful thing selfishly i would love to 00:45:05.260 --> 00:45:11.740 hit 100 countries i can't believe we hit 85 um i i don't know somebody like i've been internally 00:45:11.740 --> 00:45:18.460 asking myself is there a goal for the next conference i don't know yet i've i've we've got to figure out i 00:45:18.460 --> 00:45:23.500 think the model is it going to be targeted and focused or is it going to be broad how many regional 00:45:23.500 --> 00:45:31.100 conferences are we going to do um i think we're still a little undefined yet to really say a number 00:45:31.100 --> 00:45:39.580 we're aiming for but um i would say that we as an organization i don't we're not that there's no 00:45:39.580 --> 00:45:44.700 downtime on conferences we're already we're aren't like literally this morning i'm already leaning into 00:45:45.340 --> 00:45:49.980 you know the next one and starting to strategize and talk about where we're going 00:45:49.980 --> 00:45:57.260 uh with the conferences and and so no rest for the weary october day 8th is looming i probably need 00:45:57.260 --> 00:46:02.700 to set up a countdown on one of my monitors here just counting down uh to the to the day and a 00:46:02.700 --> 00:46:10.220 projected time but um we want to see more of these conferences in digital virtual space and and i tell 00:46:10.220 --> 00:46:17.340 you like i've i've had through this conference and other relationships like i've had very um 00:46:19.340 --> 00:46:30.940 influential people from multiple denominations large denominations that want to be a part of what 00:46:30.940 --> 00:46:39.820 we're doing in the future like it will be very interesting to see if if we can partner with some 00:46:39.820 --> 00:46:45.820 of these organizations um i don't want to get too much into it because it's still kind of fluid um 00:46:47.580 --> 00:46:55.420 we're not alone and and and if there's if there's one thing that i want to champion maybe that's the 00:46:55.420 --> 00:47:02.940 theme of of of the next one is we're not alone in this there are there are more people that are 00:47:02.940 --> 00:47:09.100 digital missionaries that are out there in this space that are experimenting that are trying um and 00:47:09.100 --> 00:47:15.020 we this is an opportunity for us to to validate what they're doing and and to reach out and start to 00:47:15.020 --> 00:47:22.460 extend community in different ways methos is asking are there a hundred english-speaking countries yeah 00:47:22.460 --> 00:47:29.260 there are english is a primary language across the board that being said i'm actually very much one 00:47:29.260 --> 00:47:34.860 of the reasons i want to do regional conferences is i don't want this to be the face of the guy that's 00:47:34.860 --> 00:47:40.620 doing a digital missionary conference in south america i i would rather and i've said this publicly i would 00:47:40.620 --> 00:47:46.140 rather equip somebody else to do that like you know the digital missionary conference in in europe that 00:47:46.140 --> 00:47:53.900 we want to do in the fall i i it's not going to be english speaking like german french spanish i'll let 00:47:53.900 --> 00:47:59.900 simon figure that out but i i definitely want to get to the place where we're contextualizing this out 00:47:59.900 --> 00:48:04.940 globally and that even means i may not be the face there needs to be somebody else if we're going to do a 00:48:04.940 --> 00:48:13.740 conference for gen z uh on on this probably not going to be me but i want to i want to help get somebody 00:48:13.740 --> 00:48:22.780 else that can speak that language uh out there same gen a etc like um english is a lid english is a 00:48:22.780 --> 00:48:29.100 connector but at some point it's a lid and so we need to get beyond english we need to get beyond ourselves 00:48:29.100 --> 00:48:37.820 and start to platform at a global level regardless of the context and yes yes you can create an ai 00:48:37.820 --> 00:48:47.900 version of me speaking portuguese and it is excellent my my korean my mandarin chinese has faked out in 00:48:47.900 --> 00:48:54.780 via ai hey jen my mandarin chinese has faked out one of my really good friends who is mandarin chinese 00:48:54.780 --> 00:49:02.140 and so like it is possible to do it my opinion just because you can doesn't mean you should 00:49:02.140 --> 00:49:06.540 and instead of being the the english guy that's talking about american digital ministry 00:49:07.820 --> 00:49:12.060 i'd rather find people mandarin china is a hard example but i'd rather find people 00:49:12.060 --> 00:49:17.740 that can speak of digital in their context and so i would rather grow and train relationships 00:49:17.740 --> 00:49:26.140 and help them contextualize and then figure out how to communicate it um yeah well there's no language 00:49:26.140 --> 00:49:33.180 barrier between young and seniors at least mostly uh oh oh that's because uh steve says i'll host the 00:49:33.180 --> 00:49:39.980 ones for senior uh senior citizens i guess uh unless you can get mr p i know i i can appreciate that and 00:49:39.980 --> 00:49:46.220 i appreciate that too but um i there's not a language barrier but i think there's a contextualization 00:49:46.220 --> 00:49:52.620 barrier uh when it comes to platforms um oh it's interesting there's some good metaverse 00:49:52.620 --> 00:49:58.140 church stuff happening in brazil methods who i'd love i'd love a connection there i've got a um 00:49:59.740 --> 00:50:03.420 one of the people we're bringing on the board of the church digital is very connected 00:50:04.060 --> 00:50:11.180 in portuguese in um latin then the portuguese side of latin and south america and so looking 00:50:11.180 --> 00:50:16.780 to expand some relationships over there but i would you know on my side i'm looking to partner with 00:50:16.780 --> 00:50:23.100 anybody everybody i want to learn what people are doing my my mission in in life and everybody that's 00:50:23.100 --> 00:50:29.740 watching this hopefully knows this i i want to i want to discover where the issues are and um how to solve 00:50:29.740 --> 00:50:35.500 them a for the people that are stuck and then be so that the future generations don't get stuck there 00:50:35.500 --> 00:50:41.420 and i want to start to provide training and resources that can that can help streamline and and help 00:50:41.420 --> 00:50:46.220 digital missionaries be more effective so they don't even have the issues of getting stuck and so i want 00:50:46.220 --> 00:50:53.820 to be the gasoline that gets poured on the flame uh the spark that the holy spirit has given many of you 00:50:53.820 --> 00:51:00.940 and what god has called you to do which is a fun place to be for me um but it is um 00:51:03.020 --> 00:51:08.380 challenging as well but i love what i'm doing i love the fact that many of you are bought in and 00:51:08.380 --> 00:51:13.900 excited about the church digital and the digital missionary conference and what's ahead i would i would 00:51:13.900 --> 00:51:19.500 say this if you're interested in more information on the digital missionary conference including uh the 00:51:19.500 --> 00:51:26.540 october 8th uh registration uh go ahead and hang out and go over to the website that's on the screen 00:51:26.540 --> 00:51:34.700 over here wwe i did my finger the right direction kind of sorta how do i it's weird i can't there it is 00:51:34.700 --> 00:51:44.380 www.missionary.digital www.missionary.digital well um hey this has been the wrap up uh for for the 00:51:44.380 --> 00:51:50.700 conference thank you for the conference uh we took a we took a week off we were doing a season through 00:51:50.700 --> 00:51:56.460 the church digital podcast talking about questions we're going to get back into that uh with with 00:51:56.460 --> 00:52:01.820 questions some of the questions and issues the digital missionaries are getting stuck with i have no idea 00:52:01.820 --> 00:52:05.900 who we're going to bring on next week because i have no idea we're bringing on next week so we'll have 00:52:05.900 --> 00:52:11.820 a guest on diving back into the topic of that we'll have probably a couple others we're going to get 00:52:11.820 --> 00:52:18.140 into we've already started talking about what's next for the show uh with uh with the stream here 00:52:18.140 --> 00:52:21.900 looking forward to the future seasons but we're gonna we're gonna wrap up some of the questions 00:52:21.900 --> 00:52:28.460 here and and move forward there's there's a couple people i want to highlight greg coming on from from 00:52:28.460 --> 00:52:36.300 france my friend hi hi greg bye greg uh greg uh appreciate you thanks for hey greg served uh during 00:52:36.300 --> 00:52:41.660 the conference i appreciate what you did handling some of the tech with that and uh simon's talking 00:52:41.660 --> 00:52:46.060 to me about some of the stuff greg he's thinking about with you so excited to see how things develop 00:52:46.060 --> 00:52:54.460 on that side france and beyond but hey i've got to go because i gotta meet a really cool guy uh that 00:52:54.460 --> 00:52:58.460 i've never had a conversation with before and i'm excited about what this this one could open up i'm 00:52:58.460 --> 00:53:03.820 excited about a lot of stuff but always excited here but i gotta land a plane because i gotta be in a 00:53:03.820 --> 00:53:10.060 google chat room in about four minutes and so for jeff with the church digital this is jeff with the 00:53:10.060 --> 00:53:15.260 church digital talking about himself in third person today that's awesome thanks for hanging out with 00:53:15.260 --> 00:53:22.540 us today here on on the stream and we'll see you next time on the show you have a good one bye