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 all right hey jeff uh with church digital episode 342 as i was sitting here listening to the uh the

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 music uh i realized episode 350 is a couple months away actually i think it's right around

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 my birthday august 18th gonna have to have some fun uh with uh the 350th stream coming up we gotta

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 do a town hall somewhere around there i wonder i wonder if that lines up we'll have to we'll have

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 to figure that out for another day not not for now i got enough going on my life uh but hey i am

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 excited about this this conversation uh coming up uh we've got marilyn adamson uh from every student

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 coming on to share there's some phenomenal stories some phenomenal resources uh that are right around

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 the corner that are available for you and some of the stories that i've been hearing are are ridiculous

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 and so i cannot wait to uh to get in to to share some of these resources with you

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 we are digging into a season here with the church digital uh equipping partners and empowering tools

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 and what we're seeing from from marilyn and every student is um well it's it's it's exciting

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 you know and i don't want to call out my friend ian kirk who uh who's chiming in in in the chatter

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 you're excited just about every conversation that's a good thing yeah i do i get excited a lot i'm like

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 a woo girl except uh i don't woo and i'm not a girl so you can do with that what you want i'm sure

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 somebody in social media will clip that i'm like a woo girl yeah i said it twice you got two different

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 takes so you can find a way to make uh that work for you but it's gonna be really good hey i tell you

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 what another exciting thing um we have been uh neck deep as an organization working through the fall

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 digital missionary conferences conferences we are doing four uh half day conferences in uh september

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 and october it's conference season in the fall we've announced three of them uh there is uh there's

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 actually we've done some title changes we've done a focus change and so you can go to uh you can go to

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 the website missionary.digital to get more information on three of the conferences that we've announced but

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 the fourth one well we decided to keep it a secret but we're going to announce it it's gonna be really

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 cool next week wednesday uh september 18th we are doing a a live stream uh with alan hirsch uh probably one of

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 the the fathers of of modern church planting alan hirsch uh the incarnational guru himself who

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 happens to be a strong supporter of digital missionaries and digital church planting now

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 i'm not actually sure how incarnational ministry and digital go together and to be honest that's the

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 conversation we're going to have with alan hirsch next week as we're trying to figure out what

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 incarnational does with digital and how digital can influence incarnational uh our friend on the board

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 jesse carbo on the tcd board wrote an excellent article that was published uh in missio alliance i

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 think a couple weeks ago and uh alan was was quoted in there and just a lot of good conversations with him

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 around that so hey september 18th jump on this stream uh with us more information uh coming to you via email in tcd

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 uh whatsapp and discord i for the life of me i can't think of the time right now it's an it's an

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 afternoon or evening stream because alan is like literally in australia and so it's gonna be thursday

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 when we talk to him but that's coming up right on the corner and we will announce the four conferences

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 that secret fourth conference that we've yet to announce uh we will announce publicly uh on alan hirsch

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 it's gonna be worth it it's worth that coming around for it so i you know what i guess that's

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 it for my commercial spiel i don't what was that three four minutes i don't i kind of hate doing those

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 things like you know i'm as excited as i am about people i really am not that good about promoting

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 myself and god's actually done a good job promoting tcd along the way and so i'm just

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 sitting back and smiling uh like i'm sure uh maryland is uh with some of the things she's

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 going to share so let's go ahead and bring maryland on for the conversation hey maryland how are you

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 doing i think it's going okay for you yeah doing well i really appreciate this opportunity

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 that to be on i love what you're doing yes now um maryland is she lives in no you're not in orlando

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 yeah you are in orlando you're with the crew she's she's in orlando she's about four hours away from me

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 um i'm i'm down in miami and a lot of the the crew team uh is based out of orlando for whatever

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 reason one of their headquarters is there but maryland um connected with me starting to talk about

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 some of the stuff that she's doing and things that are happening over with every student and a lot of

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 the really exciting resources that are now available uh for people to to really reach jen a and gen z and

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 so um maryland maryland's got a presentation that we're going to walk through here in a minute but

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 before we even even get to that point maryland you know tell us a little bit about yourself how'd you get

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 connected and how are you doing this stuff digitally how what's your story yeah well actually

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 my story really does play into my creating every student dot com uh i had been an atheist

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 and then i met a christian who really walked with god really trusted god in her life and so i began to

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 wonder if it was possible that god could exist um i couldn't understand how somebody as smart as her

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 could believe in god so i was challenging her but i wasn't mean about it we debated for uh i bet a year

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 and a half i'd ask her questions almost daily and finally she gave me a book that had um information in

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 a minute and when i was away from her and this is key you know when we think of being online when i was away

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 from her all my defenses could come down and i could be honest and that's when god really spoke to me and

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 it was i was into philosophy but it was science that spoke to me um the earth's position to the sun and

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 the properties of water so and then i saw evidence for jesus being god but um bottom line is when i asked

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 jesus into my life he really changed my life in a dramatic way and i just wanted everybody to know him

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 and so after i graduated college i had a degree in journalism and advertising and it turned out i

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 became friends with a webmaster who was able to work with me to build the site and this was back in

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 it launched in 2000. yeah i don't i don't think they use the word webmaster anymore i don't know

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 that's the thing they've moved away from that i have been a webmaster in my life and yeah that that's

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 good that's funny yeah yeah no that's a dated term you're right well cool um so and so you're going

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 to talk about every student and and walk through some of that phenomenal uh story with that so marilyn i'll

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 go ahead and fire the slide deck if you're ready and uh let me just let me just mention one thing for

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 your audience uh the purpose of this time is to help you see ways that you can very comfortably and

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 very quickly get into conversations about god with people when you're online whether it's live online uh

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 you know if you're in gaming or in discord or or even if you want to post something in social media but

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 any direct messaging any of that there's a quick way that you can begin to have conversations with

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 people about god in a way that's comfortable for them and i'm going to be showing you a couple websites

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 that can really help you in your evangelism and your discipleship so that's what this is about and i i

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 think it'll be really useful to you awesome and so you know i know we've got some people in chat feel

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 free to throw questions in their comments we'll we'll put them up and address them uh throughout the

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 presentation and if you're watching on demand of course feel free to to put comments uh in chat as well

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 i i personally interact with all the youtube comments okay i'm like a week or two behind but

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 normally i'm really on top of my game it's it's just it's it's been uh it's been a rough week uh

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 you know steven steve good insight i'm meeting jesus when alone we should probably have a choice

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 of hand oh you know it's steve slow down slow the roll uh let's let uh let's let marilyn get

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 into what she's she's showing so marilyn you ready to get started on this yes thank you awesome here

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 you go hey the magic button worked good uh this i love this verse it's what has motivated me it's

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 in philemon in the rsv it reads and i pray that the sharing of your faith may promote the knowledge

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 of all the good that is ours in christ and to me that's the definition of evangelism we get to tell

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 people the good that is found in christ

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 so this is how the world lives this makes it very easy to help non-believers

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 most non-believers i found don't know who god is or what it's like to know god and that's why

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 i build everystudent.com it's a safe place to explore who god is and what it might be like to

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 know god everything on the site is about god and everything is worded to non-believers it's for them

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 with reasons to begin a relationship with god so john was one of the people uh i visited your site last

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 year and it has been a life-changing experience i came to know about the love of god and the

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 relationship we can have with him i do not have words to explain the joy i'm experiencing today

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 everystudent.com is in 50 languages now each is its own website

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 and you can find those by scrolling down the home page of everystudent.com to this word cloud

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 it'll show you all the urls

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 uh just during last year more there were more than 80 million visits to the site so god's really drawing a

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 a lot of people to the site

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 and more remarkable i think 1.5 million people told us that they asked jesus into their life while

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 on the site so you had 1.5 million people um i mean that's like two percent of people two percent of

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 people that visited your site last year accepted christ and that's like them reporting letting you know that

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 uh yes we have um we have about 20 percent of the articles actually include the gospel

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 and if they do there's a link at the end of these articles and they're long articles

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 and there's three links at the bottom one says i just asked jesus into my life and that's what we count

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 another one says i may want to can you explain this more fully and we take them to another page and then

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 there's also a link where they can ask a question and someone will personally reply to them

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 yeah that's that's a that's a those are strong numbers um i'm curious one more question how how do people find you

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 we're doing a lot of google and facebook advertising okay so um seo uh social media

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 marketing social uh search engine marketing to to get people there we pretty much gave up on search

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 engine optimization a lot of time ago yeah just skipped over it wasn't worth the effort

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 i almost want to have a side conversation on that that's interesting yeah yeah well and it's becoming

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 even more so with ai now you know okay so if you do the math on the 1.5 million people that's more

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 than 4 000 people every day who ask jesus into their lives while on the site that's crazy

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 it is crazy and and most of them are in closed countries uh this is tough to see but you've heard

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 of the 1040 window and that's that's a latitude right latitude section of the earth

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 where you've got a lot of muslim hindu uh we have a lot of people come to the site from vietnam which is

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 communist communist atheist uh and and this is mostly where we are running ads in google i'm running

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 campaigns in 14 languages in google so it's fun to be able to go into countries where it's not easy

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 it's not safe for people to talk about jesus and yet they can come and safely explore without them being

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 at risk and i love that so here's the what we've seen over the years in terms of the number of people

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 who are coming to christ i mean it's god's just had his hand on it and i'm i'm just watching it like

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 anybody else even though okay so you started this thing in 2020 2002 20 years ago and you were like

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 double digits 10 15 people two people no people looks like the first year did you have any idea

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 this would happen like when you first got started what was what was the hope what was the dream what

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 was the ridiculous fantastical goal yeah i was in the campus area um of crew in the united states so i

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 was doing it for university students in english in the us but what happened is as our staff in other

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 countries around the world began to know about the site i started being asked to speak at global events

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 and then even more staff became aware of the site and all 50 languages came about at the request of

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 our staff in various countries and are they are you using ai to translate is it manual like manual be

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 ridiculous the number of articles no we we've mostly done manual um really yeah yeah i'll send yes we'll

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 have staff send in rarely have we hired mostly it's been our staff who have found people to translate and

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 it's it's been a lot of work there's that volunteer like act of love to to do the translation well because

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 they really wanted the site in their language you want to use it and so um that was that's what i

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 asked of them we built it we have um a web designer yeah who has built all the sites i learned that's

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 funny yeah it's beautiful and you're mostly in closed countries yeah oh did i went the wrong way wrong but my

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 thought that's okay so i wanted to read this one because this again is typical patrick wrote uh he's

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 in ireland he said he was doing just enough drugs each morning to get through the day without killing

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 himself and then he sent a really long email this is an excerpt he said i went to my computer and googled

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 starting a new life with god and led me to your site what i read made the most perfect sense in a

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 life trampled by confusion i found clarity you have offered me a gift which has changed my life i feel

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 indebted to you for making the information available in a way a complete novice like me could understand

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 and and that's what we hear most is that first of all the site doesn't mention crew doesn't mention

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 any church or organization it really is all about god and it's worded very uh simply and persuasively

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 and so people who know nothing about christianity understand the site and and it helps them

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 and so yeah this is again from my own background but as you know online is comfortable it feels safe

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 they're in control no one is challenging them and so their defenses can come down and they can be honest

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 it's the perfect environment for god to speak to someone

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 here's what this person posted on her blog this is for the article is there a god she said the funniest

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 thing happened when i read the first paragraph of the article i wanted to read the next and when i did

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 i wanted to read the next and the next you should all look at this article something made me want to

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 believe again i mean believe just reading the intro to the article gave me a newfound respect for

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 christian thought i'd been looking for a reason not to be disgusted by christians i didn't know

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 interesting comment huh i've taken another step closer i read the article and saw god coming to

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 me from a place outside myself that is revealing himself to me from the actions of others

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 the faith i had that he existed was suddenly renewed so good

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 and this was i met this guy in jordan he said he went into an internet cafe

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 to search for scholarships for his phd and landed on our arabic site every arab student and he said here i was a

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 muslim reading article after article and thinking this is true this is true i sent the site to my friends

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 praying that god would speak to them and many became believers and and he told me that over two years

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 he saw four generations of believers where people that had come to christ through his email

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 you know they led others who led others who led others wow and i mean it's so cool to see because people

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 share what has an impact in their life so even if you talk to just one person online you have no idea

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 what god will do in that person's life to impact others

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 so not all sites do this but on ours each article or video page has its own url so that means you can

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 copy and paste it into a message or or just use their icons yeah shareability we talk about evergreen and

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 the shareability of that it's really smart to do the uh unique urls for that um

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 everything on the site is worded to people who are yet to know god

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 its goal is not to inform or educate but to seek to give people persuasive reasons to begin a relationship

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 with them uh just dig into that 30 seconds yeah well okay a lot of sites um where they give

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 they give an accurate presentation of what's true okay um but it's it's like reading an encyclopedia

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 it's just information it's nothing that would necessarily move someone to action so i said my

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 background was advertising and so everything in the site is written in a persuasive copy format

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 in writing you've got news reporting you have um novels are written differently education is different

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 this is persuasive writing and so it means um you start with attention build to interest lead them to a

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 decision show them how to take action and everything is designed that way because the goal is to help

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 them begin a relationship with god but also give them um reasons to do so and we have a lot of scripture

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 that's in the articles that's in the articles and in the videos because i want i know the power of god

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 to speak for himself so good yeah uh so here's um every student is useful in helping people who are

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 asking questions like these how do you know god is real if there is a god why is life so hard does god

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 really answer prayer if i were to have faith in god what could i expect god to do for me and why should

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 i believe in jesus i mean we cover many more than that but so on this i just want to give you you can

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 look at these yourself i'm not going to read them all but um jeff if you could just show some of the page

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 some of what we cover yeah

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 i wanted to focus on this this is a email series seven parts comes every two days and it's written

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 for skeptics agnostics people that aren't sure that god exists and when they fill out the form the the

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 only thing they have to fill out is their email address and and this is key in that we don't ever

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 we don't do things on the site for our benefit um so i'm not trying to assemble an email list of people

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 or get names or cities or any of that this is for them so even after somebody has completed a series

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 i go through we use aweber as our sending company and after people have gone through email series i

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 will delete their email address because i really care about their privacy and we tell them if you

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 sign up for this this is the only thing you'll receive and you won't be put on a list or anything so

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 privacy has always been important to me this is not a new thing we've always done it this way way before gdpr

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 came in you know

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 uganda this person said i never thought i would understand about god and faith like you have made

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 me i now have a reason to live today and this is the kind of thing you can help people with

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 right give them reason to live by knowing god

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 this person from nigeria i was in i was a good performer but deep down i was breaking into pieces

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 life was becoming harder and harder countless sexual partners bad company lots and lots of lies

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 sometimes i would just sit to sit down alone and cry my life was a mess you introduced god to me in a

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 magnificent way it has transformed my life i breathed a fresh air a breath of liberation and freedom i was

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 finally born again that's kind of thing you might hear from people you know um so here is how every

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 student can help you in your conversations with people who are yet to know god how we talk to people

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 through text message it's really no different than how we talk to them in person so this carries over

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 i'm going to give you some examples of me talking to somebody face to face but i've also had the same

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 kinds of conversations online okay oh sorry my fault there you go

00:25:53.560 --> 00:26:02.280
 okay here is your full training it's in one uh slide here as you chat with people online you can

00:26:02.280 --> 00:26:10.680
 simply say i'm connected to a site that takes on the hard questions about life and god like how do you know

00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:18.760
 god exists and why is life so hard here let me give you a link to it okay it's that simple

00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:27.960
 all right so i'm going to give you examples of how this works first of all when you do that when

00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:35.000
 you resource somebody people appreciate that you're just resourcing them with something that can answer

00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:42.520
 their questions they sense that you care about them you're not trying to control them you respect their

00:26:42.520 --> 00:26:46.760
 ability to decide for themselves and they're very grateful

00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:51.320
 so here's an example of the conversation

00:26:53.000 --> 00:27:02.360
 i was in a fast food line at a on the university campus and it was a long line and a student next

00:27:02.360 --> 00:27:08.120
 to me started chatting with me we both happened to look up from our phones at the same time and so

00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:17.720
 you know so then we started talking because it was too awkward not to um so i asked him about his

00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:26.120
 major and it was computer engineering uh you know so we talked about security and web browsers and all

00:27:26.120 --> 00:27:33.560
 sorts of stuff and then i told him a little bit about everystudent.com he said i'm agnostic but my

00:27:33.560 --> 00:27:42.200
 fiance is a christian i asked him if you saw sufficient evidence for god's existence would you want to know god

00:27:43.240 --> 00:27:51.080
 he said yes so i pulled out my phone and i had him sign up for the spiritual adventure pack which is

00:27:51.080 --> 00:27:58.760
 that seven-part email series and you find it um just look for the little hiker icon and you'll be able to find it

00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:08.520
 so this is what struck me the most about our conversation it was only 10 minutes long maybe

00:28:09.080 --> 00:28:16.920
 but three different times during our conversation daniel grabbed my hand to shake it and told me how

00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:25.720
 grateful he was that i would talk to him wow um and part of that is because he's got a fiancee who's

00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:29.960
 a christian this could make his life a whole lot easier if he became a christian you know

00:28:31.880 --> 00:28:37.880
 um okay another example of a real conversation that just as easily could have been online

00:28:40.360 --> 00:28:48.440
 um and let me just say when you're equipped with this site god's going to bring people your way

00:28:49.560 --> 00:28:56.360
 and here's an example i was in a hotel lobby standing next to me was this woman and she asked are you

00:28:56.360 --> 00:29:03.560
 with our convention i said no i'm with a site that takes on the hard questions about life and god like

00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:11.080
 how do you know god exists and why is life so hard she said i'm an atheist but i'm searching

00:29:12.520 --> 00:29:18.280
 i said you will love this website because it will give you reasons to begin a relationship with god

00:29:18.280 --> 00:29:25.880
 and show you how you can start that relationship with him today and she had tears in her eyes when

00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:35.080
 i handed her the card and she thanked me for it um so caroline's another one who signed up for this

00:29:35.080 --> 00:29:43.800
 series for atheists the site does more than just speak to atheists but it's useful that way she said

00:29:43.800 --> 00:29:49.400
 although you don't know me i feel like you've taken my hand and led me on a very special journey these

00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:56.840
 last few weeks the information you provided answers many of my questions you have led me from complete

00:29:56.840 --> 00:30:05.480
 denial of god's existence to not just believing in him but knowing that he is there the evidence you give

00:30:05.480 --> 00:30:12.040
 was sufficient to convince this 33 year old lifelong atheist and not an easy challenge wow

00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:20.360
 and dominie who's another thank you so much for your website it's been so nice how much sense it

00:30:20.360 --> 00:30:28.440
 makes it helped me find jesus god our lord i love that because she's so new she's not quite sure how to

00:30:28.440 --> 00:30:35.000
 address how to say yeah i'm just trying to figure out words yeah she said of course as i am new to it i

00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:41.800
 used to be agnostic i still have little doubt but that doubt is fading away quickly your website

00:30:41.800 --> 00:30:45.560
 has provided believable proof and such eye-opening material

00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:58.760
 um so let's say you're talking to somebody online and you say something about what you personally know

00:30:58.760 --> 00:31:07.720
 to be true about god after that like you might say you know i'm sorry you're struggling with whatever

00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:15.240
 they shared with you and you could say you know i've been in tough times before and i i found that god

00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:24.680
 gives me a peace that's beyond what the circumstances would call for then after you say something about

00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:31.960
 god you can say i'm wondering if anyone has ever shared with you how you could know god like that

00:31:32.840 --> 00:31:39.480
 okay so the key point of this you're not blaming them for being ignorant you're kind of blaming somebody

00:31:39.480 --> 00:31:47.320
 else that maybe they never shared with him how he could know god like this okay so it's very it's a

00:31:47.320 --> 00:31:54.600
 disarming kind of way to say it um that makes them comfortable so i'm wondering if anyone has ever

00:31:54.600 --> 00:32:00.600
 shared with you how you could know god like that let me give you a link that explains how you can start

00:32:00.600 --> 00:32:07.880
 a personal relationship with god all right and the the two i list here one is an article that goes through

00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:18.760
 the gospel and the other one's a video that goes through the gospel sure um so to help you know i've

00:32:18.760 --> 00:32:25.240
 given you a couple examples of when i've been in conversations with people but if you if you're

00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:31.240
 willing to go through this is free free email series and as you know by now this is all you'll receive

00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:38.040
 you won't get anything else if you sign up for it um but you this is a site that i'm going to tell you

00:32:38.040 --> 00:32:45.640
 about in a minute it's a site for new believers or struggling believers it's called startingwithgod.com

00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:55.800
 so if you go to startingwithgod.com slash conversations um there's a series you can sign up for that will give you

00:32:55.800 --> 00:33:04.680
 further motivation and coaching and how to interact with non-believers when you're online that's beautiful

00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:12.680
 let me i want to i want to pause here for for a second i i love i love your the stories you just

00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:18.680
 rolled through now all of them were were physical interactions and and you're working primarily with

00:33:18.680 --> 00:33:26.360
 digital here early as we are working with digital what i love about what you're doing is even when

00:33:26.360 --> 00:33:33.480
 you're standing next to the college student in line to get whatever um you are personally interacting

00:33:33.480 --> 00:33:41.160
 with that person um like this is not a you know if i'm going to parallel it in the college university

00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:47.960
 physical realm you didn't print a thousand flyers and wallpaper every light post on campus you're

00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:54.520
 having a personal interaction with someone you know so often in digital we think about like if i'm

00:33:54.520 --> 00:34:00.920
 paralleling that to digital oh my gosh let me just create a social media graphic and i'll post it on my

00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:07.320
 feed and that'll get hundreds of people to to click over to whatever the url is i'm trying to drive them to

00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:17.480
 and and some people will go but that's a a shallower response and it doesn't convert so to speak marketing

00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:25.080
 term as much as it is a personal interaction sharing that dm starting that conversation with someone

00:34:25.080 --> 00:34:31.000
 digitally going a little further in building that that relationship you know we talk about bless

00:34:31.640 --> 00:34:38.840
 in in in using this in your sharing your jesus story segment of of bless as as a way to start a

00:34:38.840 --> 00:34:45.560
 conversation with someone even shared experiences watch this video and let's talk about it in um you know

00:34:45.560 --> 00:34:52.200
 remotely async or let's jump on a a discord call or a google meet or zoom or whatever to interact

00:34:52.200 --> 00:35:02.200
 like there's ways to not just give this resource and then it's gone like in your situation uh you know

00:35:02.200 --> 00:35:06.280
 you're telling stories people you meet and then they're they're they're gone yeah i won't see them

00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:13.480
 again right in in our in a lot of our situations that may be true but there's also an opportunity to

00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:20.840
 relationally use this as a stepping stone to further the conversation along and i think that's where i look at

00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:27.880
 like some of this conversations starters and conversations god starts where you you're still

00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:36.920
 part of the play even after you you release them to the to the website that's right and um as

00:35:36.920 --> 00:35:45.000
 conversations happen there's lots of um pages that you could share a link and say take a look at this

00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:52.680
 and then let's talk yeah you know i love that all right let's keep going so this is where you would

00:35:52.680 --> 00:36:01.000
 find it that there's icons on starting with god.com and it's it's this one's called conversations god

00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:09.080
 starts and and this series is because i really believe when you're equipped god will bring people your way

00:36:14.600 --> 00:36:22.520
 one second there you go yep um both everystudent.com and starting with god have got great search boxes

00:36:23.080 --> 00:36:27.480
 way better than google's they're really good and you can easily find anything you need

00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:34.200
 so the search this is where they're located whether you're on a laptop or mobile

00:36:37.240 --> 00:36:46.280
 um so you're also going to find believers when you're interacting online and you can help them also

00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:57.320
 startingwithgod.com is the site we built for new believers or or struggling believers either one

00:37:00.200 --> 00:37:08.360
 uh there's a free email series for new believers you know and there's a whole bunch of series and they go

00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:14.920
 in a particular order but i thought the best way to share with you what they are was through a story

00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:18.040
 that i'll share a little bit later

00:37:22.600 --> 00:37:29.320
 morgan said and many of you might relate to this she said as a teenager i feel like there's all this

00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:35.000
 focus on getting saved and following the thousands of rules but i was never given any guidance after

00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:42.600
 accepting christ for months i just went through the motions one night after once again hopelessly trying

00:37:42.600 --> 00:37:49.400
 to understand i came across this thank you i would never be where i am in my relationship today if god

00:37:49.400 --> 00:38:00.280
 hadn't led me to this wow um i'm good i'm wondering for time if i had to skip a couple of these sure go ahead

00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:07.080
 let me skip a couple of these but they're people just saying how the impact this site has had

00:38:07.640 --> 00:38:16.360
 on their lives as new believers okay so let me tell you this story in closing now this guy his name's

00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:24.680
 yard not really but his name is yard i wanted to protect him he's grew up muslim in northern ethiopia

00:38:29.640 --> 00:38:33.560
 and he received christ on everystudent.com

00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:41.960
 and then he went to start with god.com and signed up for the first follow-up series called the spiritual

00:38:41.960 --> 00:38:51.720
 starter kit um and in this series it showed him how he could be sure jesus is in his life that god drew him

00:38:52.600 --> 00:39:01.080
 um what god's unconditional love is so different from conditional love why god won't leave you what if

00:39:01.080 --> 00:39:08.040
 you sin does god forgive you still how to find a church and christians okay so that's what's in that first

00:39:08.040 --> 00:39:15.800
 series and then at the end of it there is an invitation to sign up for another series but a

00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:23.640
 person has to sign up again um and this series is called skip the stress and it's all about

00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:31.320
 living under god's grace not feeling like you have to perform for god or be the perfect christian

00:39:32.040 --> 00:39:37.800
 um so he signed up for it and then he said thank you very much god bless you forever

00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:42.520
 please do not stop teaching me i now understand the concept of faith

00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:50.680
 so then at the end of that series there's one that takes someone through the gospel of john so they

00:39:50.680 --> 00:39:58.760
 can actually know more about jesus and learn how to notice what scripture's saying he signed up for it

00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:05.800
 and then he wrote me god bless you i am very happy thanks to god for being with you on this very amazing

00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:15.560
 great study i got a compass to see jesus in the bible and wisdom for my journey each part is removing blindness

00:40:15.560 --> 00:40:16.440
 from my life thank you

00:40:19.560 --> 00:40:27.960
 so then there's one more series um on how to talk about god with other people and he signed up for it

00:40:29.640 --> 00:40:36.840
 and then he wrote me this my eyes are opened now through your lessons i started to teach your lesson

00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:46.600
 on whatsapp to all new believers wow and i thought what new believers he said all glory belongs to god

00:40:46.600 --> 00:40:54.200
 thank you go extra with jesus yaron so i asked him about these new believers and he said

00:40:56.200 --> 00:41:02.760
 this website everystudent.com is my journey it is satisfying their questions and doubts

00:41:03.320 --> 00:41:08.280
 it is strength for the believers faith and a way for non-believers to come to jesus

00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:15.960
 okay so i asked him more and he said this study and websites and he's referring to both

00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:24.040
 studywithgod.com and everystudent.com these websites continue to bless many lives through me

00:41:24.040 --> 00:41:30.840
 i am reaching muslims on whatsapp i tell you the truth more than 700 people have been blessed through

00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:37.560
 this and now new believers around 33 and their numbers are increasing daily wow

00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:46.120
 so i didn't know a lot about it about whatsapp at the time so i asked if he would invite me into the

00:41:46.120 --> 00:41:53.240
 group and i took this screenshot and then white it out parts and what he was doing was sharing

00:41:54.040 --> 00:42:02.680
 what he was learning on everystudent.com and on studywithgod.com and i started looking at the area codes

00:42:03.560 --> 00:42:12.680
 you know there was 966 and 968 and stuff and realized he was reaching people all across the middle east

00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:22.680
 saudi arabia yemen sudan egypt uae libya and i asked him where did you get the idea to do this

00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:29.160
 and he said you told me to and how to talk about god you said share this in your social media so that's

00:42:29.160 --> 00:42:37.800
 what i'm doing that's what he's doing i love that so you know this is you don't you don't even have to

00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:46.040
 train people once they see what the two sites are offering they know how to share it with somebody else

00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:57.000
 so that's the story of yard so i'm on the next slide i'm giving you uh here the two sites and then

00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:04.760
 i'm giving you my email address on the next slide if you have any questions please feel free to email me

00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:10.520
 marilyn that was so cool i'll leave i'll leave that slide up for a second um actually i'll come back

00:43:10.520 --> 00:43:15.240
 to it i do have one question so here i've got more than one question but here are the four

00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:26.040
 things that were on um started start starting conversations um how long are these four so um

00:43:26.680 --> 00:43:33.480
 he went through all four of these email series like the entire gospel of john he learned salvation

00:43:33.480 --> 00:43:40.680
 spiritual starter kit like what was the process how many months how many years of learning are we talking

00:43:40.680 --> 00:43:47.880
 about here what does this actually look like you mean to write these and no for him to read them oh okay

00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:57.320
 yeah well um gospel john was 36 emails long okay and they come every three or four days so

00:43:58.520 --> 00:44:08.520
 you know yeah these are easily over six months and then to be honest i started another ongoing series

00:44:09.240 --> 00:44:16.840
 called call you'll find it on starting with god.com called the findables yeah and you're welcome to join

00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:26.840
 that group also there's 6 000 findables around the world that i write to every 10 days and to be a

00:44:26.840 --> 00:44:37.400
 findable i ask uh i i tell people i'm going to ask you to take faith steps and try some things you're not

00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:46.440
 obligated you know but i just want the freedom to ask them to try things and so the findables are people

00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:56.920
 who want to help make jesus findable to millions of other people and uh you're welcome to sign up for any

00:44:56.920 --> 00:45:04.840
 of the series i i love that we'll we'll put the links in in the in the uh the youtube descriptions and

00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:11.800
 and and and we'll we'll put this out there but i i love the idea uh that uh you said yared uh here

00:45:12.440 --> 00:45:21.080
 has uh you basically six months of training and is um is owning what he's learning and is then

00:45:21.080 --> 00:45:28.680
 distributing it out you know you were referencing generations earlier he's he's naturally moving to

00:45:28.680 --> 00:45:37.080
 whatsapp uh and and getting connected with people across in his context the middle east uh in his in

00:45:37.080 --> 00:45:45.320
 his relationally engaging these people like this is that this is an incredible story of um

00:45:47.080 --> 00:45:51.400
 sorry planning center just called me i have no idea what planning center is calling me

00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:59.800
 anyway um i don't even use planning center but i just i love this story of of of how somebody is is

00:45:59.800 --> 00:46:06.840
 owning the the the teaching and and moving forward what all right so one other question because also

00:46:07.560 --> 00:46:15.560
 this is one of the best examples of evergreen content i've seen yes where you're you're creating stuff

00:46:16.680 --> 00:46:27.240
 once it goes on a server you create a mail list it goes into a platform and over years it it is it

00:46:27.240 --> 00:46:34.280
 multiplies up and to the right uh in in its impact like someone some of the stats and stories on this

00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:45.000
 are incredible the sites that are in other languages so starting with god is in 30 languages and um

00:46:45.720 --> 00:46:52.280
 in arabic spanish portuguese a whole bunch french a whole bunch of languages they've taken

00:46:53.240 --> 00:47:03.480
 at least two or three of the email series and they've created it they translated it they changed

00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:10.840
 anything that i shared that was personal about me they made it true about them for the leader of that language site

00:47:11.480 --> 00:47:19.160
 and and so you can you can have an impact in all sorts of people's lives who don't even speak english

00:47:19.720 --> 00:47:27.880
 yeah i the the scalability of what you're doing is incredible the the content now you said you didn't

00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:34.600
 pay for a translation volunteer acts of love love that actual writing the content have you

00:47:35.560 --> 00:47:46.120
 paid for any of like the author's writing no um and so you're i mean you're you're hosting um html files

00:47:46.120 --> 00:47:53.720
 on a server and your uh your youtube is is your video source i would assume uh that's youtube's where

00:47:53.720 --> 00:48:02.200
 you put all your videos yes and and the two um videos that go through the whole gospel one is about

00:48:02.200 --> 00:48:09.320
 is strictly about how to know god personally the other one is um what god offers you in difficult

00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:19.160
 situations and uh both of those videos were created by a findable who did them for free wow so you you you

00:48:19.160 --> 00:48:25.560
 you connected with people they shared ideas and you experimented with it you tried it you learned from

00:48:25.560 --> 00:48:31.960
 them and then they as an act of service as an act of love they're they own the vision of it they're

00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:38.440
 they're replicating it out like this is this is beautiful and uh i don't mean to be rude but this is very

00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:46.840
 cheap like there's not a lot of money in in in in your in your model here yet we're seeing 1.4 million

00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:56.040
 people globally uh through 50 languages accepting jesus in 2024 like this is uh when when you told me

00:48:56.040 --> 00:49:01.400
 this i was like this is unbelievable and when i'm hearing a second time i'm like my gosh it the the model

00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:10.360
 worked well let me add since you're talking numbers and cost uh we're seeing people come to the site

00:49:10.360 --> 00:49:18.520
 for less than three cents a person uh and we're seeing people indicate that they've received christ

00:49:18.520 --> 00:49:27.240
 for under two dollars a person okay so cost per click is is three cents less than three and in the actual

00:49:27.240 --> 00:49:33.080
 the the conversion to get to is the conversion accepting jesus like filling out that form yeah

00:49:33.080 --> 00:49:40.280
 so to get to to that point is less than two dollars wow that's that's unbelievable um

00:49:41.480 --> 00:49:46.120
 and it's and it's mostly you said in the 10 40 window kind of in that middle east uh in in the

00:49:46.120 --> 00:49:53.080
 hot zone area where it's so much of this is needed this is this is beautiful so i i can tell you i'm

00:49:53.080 --> 00:50:00.200
 i'm looking at chat and steve reed uh is is blowing up right now because he has been trying to figure out

00:50:00.200 --> 00:50:06.840
 what to do and i know he was inspired by some of what you've said today i'm just curious like

00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:13.080
 somebody that's starting out is wanting to do something like this what what advice what counsel

00:50:13.080 --> 00:50:18.840
 what would you what would you give them as as a as an idea directive or what's a lesson that you learned

00:50:19.560 --> 00:50:22.840
 that oh my gosh it was so hard and you want to save somebody from that

00:50:26.440 --> 00:50:33.480
 wow that's a big question um first of all you know i've worked on this for a long time and so

00:50:33.480 --> 00:50:43.880
 it takes it takes a lot of years to produce something like this um i think to be really honest god has

00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:53.960
 simply brought people my way at the right time uh he's brought the opportunities i mean god really has

00:50:53.960 --> 00:51:01.320
 built this and had his hand on it but i will say there's a lot of things about google that i have

00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:09.720
 learned in google advertising and one is do not let google choose websites where you show your ads

00:51:09.720 --> 00:51:19.400
 because it's wasted money there's too many fraudulent sites out there search has also declined as you know

00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:30.520
 with ai and so the most successful thing i've done the last half a year is building new google ad campaigns

00:51:30.520 --> 00:51:39.800
 where i choose the sites and i use chat gpt to help me find reputable sites of news and sports and lifestyle

00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:47.240
 kinds of sites in other languages and then i've personally gone in and looked at every one of the

00:51:47.240 --> 00:51:55.880
 sites to determine if i mean as a double check plus we have a click fraud company we hire just to be

00:51:56.440 --> 00:52:05.720
 because i don't i don't want i have to know these are all real if i'm gonna spend my time on it or ask

00:52:05.720 --> 00:52:15.960
 anybody to give financially to it i need to know they're all real yeah so facebook has been useful also

00:52:16.760 --> 00:52:24.840
 yeah you know steve uh steve let me let me reshape what you heard uh google ads are not bad um google

00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:33.080
 ads is is a tool uh but you have to direct it well exactly and you you tell google what you want as

00:52:33.080 --> 00:52:39.400
 opposed to google using the algorithm uh to tell you what it thinks you wants that's that would be

00:52:40.040 --> 00:52:45.960
 uh the lesson and the takeaway uh on this google's been great for us i mean i've loved being able to

00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:53.160
 reach people around the world so yeah i'm not but it was funny in this call in this literally while i

00:52:53.160 --> 00:52:59.160
 was on this this stream with you uh jesse who's doing my uh some of the google work for the church

00:52:59.160 --> 00:53:04.200
 digital it's like hey i want you to look at these campaigns before we roll it out so i mean we we we use

00:53:04.200 --> 00:53:16.120
 it as well in in some context oh beautiful we'd love that um let me ask um how do you this the biggest

00:53:16.120 --> 00:53:22.120
 problem we have is fundraising uh as as a general role not just the church digital but digital missionaries

00:53:22.120 --> 00:53:28.200
 a lot of bivocational um and and you have a relationship with crew and so i know fundraising

00:53:28.200 --> 00:53:34.280
 is is a big part of what you guys do anyway as missionaries through crew but how do you like how

00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:40.200
 do you fundraise is there is there a secret or a tip maybe you could share on on what that looks like

00:53:40.200 --> 00:53:46.120
 for for you personally or you organizationally uh

00:53:49.400 --> 00:53:57.160
 the results that we're seeing are are pretty uh speak for themselves yeah yeah yeah i mean that's

00:53:57.160 --> 00:54:04.680
 that's significant 1.5 1.4 whatever it was million and 24 is is significant and so that does deem man

00:54:04.680 --> 00:54:10.920
 there's a lot of opportunity to invest in that and all those clicks you know it's just just to be honest

00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:18.360
 it's just going to keep going up and to the right like you we talk about the flywheel and you were patient

00:54:18.360 --> 00:54:26.600
 enough in the early years to stick to the guns to allow the flywheel to to multiply and now

00:54:27.080 --> 00:54:31.000
 you're in the next couple years you're you're just going to be living on that flywheel

00:54:31.720 --> 00:54:36.200
 especially if your ads kick in and gasoline on the flame and i believe you're going to see some

00:54:36.200 --> 00:54:44.760
 explosion on that after somebody accepts accepts christ what do you do is there is there a follow-up

00:54:44.760 --> 00:54:52.840
 is there an email is there a community yeah well when somebody clicks on that link on everystudent.com

00:54:52.840 --> 00:55:02.600
 it says i just asked jesus into my life they land on a hidden page that invites them to go to starting

00:55:02.600 --> 00:55:09.400
 with god.com so they have to they have to go there they have to actually go to the effort

00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:17.800
 we don't automatically send them there and that's another way for me to see if these are real so what

00:55:17.800 --> 00:55:25.400
 i have seen is there's a there's an absolute parallel between people that receive christ and people that

00:55:25.400 --> 00:55:33.560
 go to starting with god when that goes up i mean it's just uh it's a confirmation to me uh a little bit

00:55:33.560 --> 00:55:41.320
 but yes they we have an email page and someone personally replies to them

00:55:42.200 --> 00:55:48.920
 in any of our language sites we don't use bots and as long as i'm directing it we will never use bots

00:55:48.920 --> 00:55:56.360
 it will be it will be an individual who prays about how to answer the person and care about the person

00:55:56.360 --> 00:56:02.680
 and give them a good answer yeah it was funny we discord the other day we had uh we do we do use bots

00:56:02.680 --> 00:56:08.840
 we use people too but we use bots and people simultaneously and uh we had we had a we had a non-friendly

00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:15.560
 bot person join discord and he was he was kind of upset at the bot so i i i totally get that yeah i

00:56:15.560 --> 00:56:23.640
 will throw rocks at it it's just a personal it's not like it cares it doesn't know but there's it's fun

00:56:23.640 --> 00:56:32.520
 um oh my gosh so good i i would love uh to have more conversations with you i'm intrigued about what

00:56:32.520 --> 00:56:39.320
 happens afterwards uh like there's a there's a really strong opportunity maybe to introduce some

00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:45.800
 digital churches uh in the space people that aren't in a position because of persecution or whatever to

00:56:45.800 --> 00:56:51.720
 to get connected into a digital environment or you know create a whatsapp community similar to what

00:56:52.840 --> 00:57:01.640
 uh the individual was that people could join yard uh yeah yard uh could join in uh and um in dialogue

00:57:01.640 --> 00:57:08.920
 with like i just i'm i'm um i'm intrigued because you've really got that you know we talk about connect

00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:16.200
 community equip mobilize you've really got that connection well and and my my gut is if there was a

00:57:16.200 --> 00:57:23.960
 community uh peer community where people could bake on it together and um in dialogue you know i bet you

00:57:23.960 --> 00:57:30.120
 would see you know even more conversions at the community level through that and so you know you

00:57:30.120 --> 00:57:34.760
 may after i think after this week you may get an email right now it's all about my daughter's dance

00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:39.800
 recital like i'm not gonna kid that it's that's tonight and so that's like number one priority in my life

00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:46.360
 right now is i got to be sitting at a high school auditorium in in about two hours three hours but

00:57:46.360 --> 00:57:53.480
 after that i do have a conversation with you about this so check for an email on that uh but hey this

00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:57.400
 has been beautiful as as we're wrapping up here um in any closing thoughts

00:58:00.040 --> 00:58:07.640
 no i'm happy to answer any email that someone sends me if there's uh questions you have or other ways i

00:58:07.640 --> 00:58:13.400
 could help i mean i i can't really review everybody's google ad campaign that was only to do that

00:58:15.080 --> 00:58:23.800
 that's awesome i get to do a couple my my uh my friend jesse's got a guy that that i pay to do this

00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:31.400
 and so uh you know uh i i don't think she can handle doing all that for free but um it has been an

00:58:31.400 --> 00:58:37.320
 absolute pleasure maryland thank you for jumping on the stream uh for if any questions on maryland

00:58:37.320 --> 00:58:46.760
 uh it's on the screen maryland adamson at every student dot com is her information there and uh

00:58:46.760 --> 00:58:52.200
 for that we're gonna we're gonna land a plane uh hope you enjoyed the stream uh as we're digging

00:58:52.200 --> 00:58:59.560
 into uh equipping partners and empowering tools maryland thank you uh for today uh next week i have

00:58:59.560 --> 00:59:07.000
 no idea what's coming up and then we've got the um uh the stream wednesday with uh alan hirsch i you

00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:12.360
 know i'm normally an organized person and i'm not gonna lie the past two to three weeks have been

00:59:12.360 --> 00:59:19.400
 pandemonium like i have no idea what was going on and uh i just i want to thank maryland uh she sent

00:59:19.400 --> 00:59:24.920
 me all like all of her notes and stuff friday and i didn't actually reply until like 30 minutes before

00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:30.520
 the stream started and she's like are we doing this today it's just it's it's been a it's been a mess in

00:59:30.520 --> 00:59:37.240
 the head lately but maryland thank you for the time i appreciate it check out every student uh there and

00:59:37.240 --> 00:59:42.520
 we'll have all the links in the in the show notes but for maryland this is jeff with the church digital

00:59:42.520 --> 00:59:48.520
 thanks for hanging out today and we'll see you next time on the show you have a good one

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