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For more 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:47.280 information and to find out how you can save 20%, visit thechurch.digital.com. 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:56.380 So episode 35 here of The Church Digital podcast, you ever have one of those conversations where 00:00:56.380 --> 00:01:02.740 you're like, I don't think anyone else in the country is doing this. Or even a step further 00:01:02.740 --> 00:01:08.620 and say, you know what? I think we're the only people in the world who are doing something like 00:01:08.620 --> 00:01:14.960 this. In 2019, where there's quite literally nothing new under the sun, thank you very much, 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:21.400 Ecclesiastes 1. It's hard to realize, it's hard to imagine that there's something new, 00:01:21.480 --> 00:01:25.540 that there's a new concept that nobody's ever done before. Ironically, we stumbled into something 00:01:25.540 --> 00:01:31.460 like that here at The Church Digital in a side conversation about pop-up church. So I picked 00:01:31.460 --> 00:01:35.080 up the phone, called a friend of a friend, and eventually got connected with Brandon Tato, 00:01:35.640 --> 00:01:42.840 who is the, get this, he is the pop-up pastor for Christ Fellowship Church in West Palm Beach. 00:01:42.840 --> 00:01:47.000 So let me pause, and I want to work through a couple things here. First off, this is Christ 00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:51.900 Fellowship West Palm Beach, which is completely separate from the Christ Fellowship Miami that I 00:01:51.900 --> 00:01:58.000 was formerly on staff at. And Ray DeArmis, who is a guest host here, is currently the online pastor. 00:01:58.120 --> 00:02:03.340 So this is a completely separate organization, which yes, they're about 90 miles apart, and they 00:02:03.340 --> 00:02:08.740 always get confused on a regular basis. So plenty of side stories that we both can share about that. 00:02:08.840 --> 00:02:13.120 But this idea of pop-up church has almost been something that's been a whisper. It's been an 00:02:13.120 --> 00:02:19.800 echo. Well, what if we did pop-up? What does even pop-up mean? And so like, I went into this 00:02:19.800 --> 00:02:25.960 conversation, and we talked about it off air with Brandon. I didn't know what to expect. All I knew 00:02:25.960 --> 00:02:30.320 was someone told me, hey, they're doing some incredible stuff with pop-up. And to be honest, 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:36.580 I really didn't even know what pop-up was. And so I get on the Zoom with Brandon, who's this pop-up 00:02:36.580 --> 00:02:42.220 pastor. And basically, I start off the question with, dude, tell me about pop-up. And what followed 00:02:42.220 --> 00:02:48.120 was an incredible conversation centering around innovation, a church that's willing to do incredible 00:02:48.120 --> 00:02:54.520 things for an incredible growth opportunity to impact people with the gospel. So I love this 00:02:54.520 --> 00:02:59.800 conversation. I'm sure you will too. I'm going to present to you in this conversation, Brandon Coteau, 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:05.240 who is the pop-up church pastor for Christ Fellowship West Palm Beach, and myself, Jeff, 00:03:05.300 --> 00:03:10.140 with the Church Digital in a conversation surrounding pop-up church. Here you go. 00:03:11.100 --> 00:03:17.160 So we started off a year ago, kind of just dreaming up with this. How does this look? What are we going 00:03:17.160 --> 00:03:23.960 to do? What is it? How do we even build a team for this? And so really, that's what June looked like 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:30.620 of last year. And then we finally got team put together and figured out a process, somewhere to 00:03:30.620 --> 00:03:37.660 start. And then we're like, well, what are some of the things that have been successful in the 00:03:37.660 --> 00:03:43.460 locations? Because typically, the way we launch campuses here at Christ Fellowship is we would just 00:03:43.460 --> 00:03:50.560 take a team of probably, let's say, four to six people. We would plant them at most likely a high 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:57.260 school and just leave them there until church built. And so we thought, what if we, our number 00:03:57.260 --> 00:04:03.340 10 location was Jupiter, Florida, which is just not too far, probably like 15 miles away from here. 00:04:03.700 --> 00:04:10.280 The school was, they weren't as friendly when it came to storing our gear and keeping our stuff 00:04:10.280 --> 00:04:16.220 there, the things we needed to keep on site to do church. So they made us put it in containers and 00:04:16.220 --> 00:04:21.300 trucks and all of this different portable stuff. And so we're like, well, what if we took, we do so many 00:04:21.300 --> 00:04:25.740 things as a church in the community. We thought, what if we took this stuff and put it in a truck 00:04:25.740 --> 00:04:32.020 and made it portable and we just popped up somewhere and did church. And so that's kind of where it 00:04:32.020 --> 00:04:37.200 started. June of last year, we thought, well, let's get into some communities. And, you know, we ask 00:04:37.200 --> 00:04:41.420 people to, we have people that drive sometimes three hours to get to one of our locations. 00:04:41.420 --> 00:04:46.360 And so we said, well, why don't we just start pick a few communities and just go in their backyard in a 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:51.320 park or something, pop up, do a big barbecue, have a family fun day, invite people out, tell them what 00:04:51.320 --> 00:04:55.980 we're thinking about, what we're going to try and if they'd be interested. And so that was really what 00:04:55.980 --> 00:05:04.320 we started with. The other thing here at this Christ Fellowship, we take June and July kind of, kind of 00:05:04.320 --> 00:05:11.020 our slower months of the year. We kind of vacation a little bit. We, our senior leadership is usually 00:05:11.020 --> 00:05:16.000 traveling, speaking. And so during those months, it was a lot of, let's get plans together. Let's 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:21.520 start dreaming about what we could do when they get back and hit the ground running August 1st, we will 00:05:21.520 --> 00:05:27.880 come up with all of the plans and get the budgets approved and let's roll with it. So that's what 00:05:27.880 --> 00:05:32.200 happened. We kind of dreamed out a whole season. I did have my whole team for June and July. We just 00:05:32.200 --> 00:05:37.740 weren't, we didn't tell anybody. We were kind of meeting in secret rooms. And then, uh, so August 00:05:37.740 --> 00:05:43.620 1st, leadership gets back and we lay out all of our big ideas and plans and they're like, okay, go for 00:05:43.620 --> 00:05:49.660 it, try it. So, so in September we did these huge, uh, what we called them backyard barbecues. And we 00:05:49.660 --> 00:05:54.820 went to the, went to the communities and we did these big barbecues and we had, um, we had about 00:05:54.820 --> 00:06:00.440 350 people come out to the first one. We had about 400 people come out to the second one. And we were 00:06:00.440 --> 00:06:08.780 like, man, we could, we could build church. So, um, the thought was if we could, if we could get this 00:06:08.780 --> 00:06:14.100 thing rolling and we could take this gear, make it roadworthy, uh, portable, we could go to a 00:06:14.100 --> 00:06:20.920 different city each week. And so in a year's time we would build, we would plant and get a church to 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:27.040 where hopefully, um, it would start to be able to self-sustain. And then, then by the end of year 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:32.100 two, contribute back to the mission and all the things we're doing as a church. Well, what if we, what if we 00:06:32.100 --> 00:06:37.900 did that through pop-up, but we were doing four at the same time we could do one. And so that's kind of 00:06:37.900 --> 00:06:45.020 where it all birthed out of and what we've been doing. And so, um, so we didn't have our first, first 00:06:45.020 --> 00:06:53.240 church service until January of this year. So August of last year, we laid out all of our plans. September, we did 00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:59.220 the backyard barbecues. October, we did, um, we did something called relationship one-on-one, which, 00:06:59.220 --> 00:07:06.880 uh, really we learned, but we wouldn't do it again. And then, um, and then November, we did something 00:07:06.880 --> 00:07:13.200 called, uh, serve days. We, there's a lot of churches here. We're part of church united. And so we, um, we 00:07:13.200 --> 00:07:18.240 partnered with them to do something called love South Florida. And so we, we did a bunch of serve projects 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:24.140 in November in both of these cities. And then, uh, December, we invited them, we messaged, we went to 00:07:24.140 --> 00:07:30.920 the mall in one location and did like a, uh, we did like a Christmas concert in the mall and, uh, 00:07:32.060 --> 00:07:37.180 did the same thing for Halloween. We went to the mall up there. They call it malloween. And so we 00:07:37.180 --> 00:07:43.640 did a, how to, they gave us a, that's horrible. Yeah. I'm sorry. Malloween. Malloween. Yeah. 00:07:44.200 --> 00:07:48.340 What mall is that? What mall does that? Let's just call them out publicly. That's, that's the 00:07:48.340 --> 00:07:54.360 worst thing I've ever heard. That's Vero beach. Uh, that's the Vero beach mall. Yeah. Vero beach 00:07:54.360 --> 00:08:00.520 mall. I expect more out of you. You've got this, you got Disney vacation club right there within your 00:08:00.520 --> 00:08:04.400 city. You got to come up with something better than malloween. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to 00:08:04.400 --> 00:08:09.380 interrupt. Please go ahead. No, that's good. We, I'll tell you what though. It wasn't, we were so 00:08:09.380 --> 00:08:17.020 under, uh, prepared for that. We had, we had over 5,000 people come through our booth at that. 00:08:17.020 --> 00:08:25.980 At, at malloween. At malloween. It blew us away. We took 500, we took 500 little, um, like our Christ 00:08:25.980 --> 00:08:31.120 fellowship, we call them CF kids. So we took 500 CF kids, little giveaways, just, Hey, connect with us. 00:08:31.140 --> 00:08:35.820 Here we are. We're going to come build church here. We gave those in the first 15 minutes, we were out 00:08:35.820 --> 00:08:42.980 of those and it was 45 minutes before the event even started. So we were in trouble. Wow. So we 00:08:42.980 --> 00:08:47.740 were, we were, we were calling in resources and getting supplies delivered to us. And it was, uh, 00:08:47.740 --> 00:08:52.980 it was a crazy night. Um, so let's, let's back up a little bit. Cause Christ fellowship, you guys 00:08:52.980 --> 00:08:58.040 are, uh, Christ Phillips, West Palm beach. I used, I too used to be on Christ fellowship at the Miami. 00:08:58.160 --> 00:09:02.860 It's two completely separate churches. I want to make sure we're very clear on saying that. Cause 00:09:02.860 --> 00:09:09.660 otherwise like people get confused. Side note, every Easter Christ fellowship, Miami gets a bill 00:09:10.020 --> 00:09:16.820 from vendors that rent you guys AV gear. Uh, and it's happened for over a decade. Like I can go that 00:09:16.820 --> 00:09:21.740 far back and tell you, they always send the bill down South that we're always like, Nope, wrong Christ 00:09:21.740 --> 00:09:27.420 fellowship, send it up. Uh, so, but, but let, let's, let's unpack this. You guys are eight campuses, 00:09:27.420 --> 00:09:37.800 right? Now we are, um, 11. Just kidding. You're 11 campuses. Uh, so that's within, um, what an hour, 00:09:37.940 --> 00:09:43.280 hour and a half from, from the, from the main campus, kind of that surrounding, uh, our, our original 00:09:43.280 --> 00:09:49.660 campus is Palm beach gardens. And so from Palm beach gardens, um, we have campuses in our West, 00:09:49.660 --> 00:09:56.540 which is our Okeechobee location. We have, uh, Boynton South, which is about 35 minutes South. 00:09:56.660 --> 00:10:03.900 And then we have Port St. Lucie North, which is about 50 minutes North. And then right now we are 00:10:03.900 --> 00:10:10.460 working at Boca Raton, Vero beach, West Lake, our Western communities and Riviera beach downtown. 00:10:10.460 --> 00:10:18.180 Okay. And those are not including any of the pop-up locations. So those are, those locations are solid 00:10:18.180 --> 00:10:23.800 fully existing campuses right now. Yeah. So 10, 10 physical locations and 11 is our online campus. 00:10:23.960 --> 00:10:28.780 Is online. Yeah. And so now, in addition to that, you're doing, you said you're rolling like four 00:10:28.780 --> 00:10:35.540 pop-up locations at the same time, just kind of like utilizing this pop-up model to kind of nurture, 00:10:35.540 --> 00:10:40.800 create community, get DNA in the area. Like that's, that's the goal of what you're trying to do. 00:10:41.160 --> 00:10:45.300 Build church. Yeah. So we, we're now nine months in, we're in a position we could, 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:51.360 we could launch four campuses in 2020, um, with what we've done with pop-up in just nine months. 00:10:52.700 --> 00:10:57.800 So what just walk, cause nine months is a really interesting number. You're going from 00:10:57.800 --> 00:11:02.840 completely cold to, Hey, we're ready to launch a campus. Like that, that's a, that's a, 00:11:02.980 --> 00:11:07.860 I mean, that's relatively quick turnaround, especially if it's really a cold, uh, experience. 00:11:07.860 --> 00:11:13.080 Like what, what's that timeline look like? How many services are you doing? Like what's, 00:11:13.100 --> 00:11:18.380 what's that flow? Well, and if I'm honest, we would, we would, uh, we're proposing right now 00:11:18.380 --> 00:11:23.520 to move the timeline up even quicker to try to do this in six months. Um, some things we've learned 00:11:23.520 --> 00:11:27.400 along the way, uh, we launched two, the very first two, we launched them at the same time, 00:11:27.400 --> 00:11:32.280 which was, uh, which we wouldn't do again, because what happened is those two competed 00:11:32.280 --> 00:11:37.880 against each other all along the way. So through social media and different avenues that we're 00:11:37.880 --> 00:11:44.520 using to connect and drive attendance and connect with people, um, they're also watching one kind 00:11:44.520 --> 00:11:48.720 of outpace the other one a little bit, which isn't fair because they're in two completely, 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:55.520 they're a hundred and, uh, 150 miles apart. So completely different areas, completely different 00:11:55.520 --> 00:12:02.380 opportunities. Um, but so to back up, we spent a lot of time in 2018 building this ramp up. We spent 00:12:02.380 --> 00:12:08.540 almost, uh, seven months building this ramp up to get to launch services in January. In January, 00:12:08.540 --> 00:12:16.300 we launched in our first two locations, um, which was Boca and Vero. And we, we've had a lot of success. 00:12:16.300 --> 00:12:20.540 What we saw though, is because we were only going once a month and we were doing on Sunday night. 00:12:21.020 --> 00:12:27.120 So not a prime time and only giving them one service a month. So everything we did up until 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:32.720 January were different connect events, um, barbecues, things like that engagement events 00:12:32.720 --> 00:12:38.280 in January, we gave them full on church services. So what you would experience at one of our locations 00:12:38.280 --> 00:12:44.640 with a little extra connect time. So we, we provided like 45 minutes hang time afterwards. Hey, 00:12:44.640 --> 00:12:49.240 meet, meet, meet me, meet our team. We want to get to know you. We want to find out more about, um, 00:12:49.240 --> 00:12:53.340 the area and what, what you guys love here and how we can be a part of it and all that kind of stuff. 00:12:53.720 --> 00:13:01.420 So really what we did is we put those two first two campuses kind of on, on a, uh, uh, on a 00:13:01.420 --> 00:13:05.540 competition with each other, which wasn't fair. So one of the things moving forward is we'll stagger 00:13:05.540 --> 00:13:10.840 them. Like we'll do one, let it get rolling and then do another one, let it get rolling and kind of, 00:13:10.840 --> 00:13:16.220 kind of use that as a, as a model to see if it's a place, uh, the first four locations. So 00:13:16.220 --> 00:13:21.360 these were a little bit unique because we kind of knew, we kind of knew we already had people there 00:13:21.360 --> 00:13:26.300 from online church. We knew that people were watching. We knew that we had people engaged with 00:13:26.300 --> 00:13:32.260 Christ fellowship in these four locations. One of them, which is our third one was actually a home run 00:13:32.260 --> 00:13:36.680 from the get go. We intentionally didn't go there first or second because it would have really messed 00:13:36.680 --> 00:13:41.340 us up, um, with any other location because it was a home run right at the gate. These Western 00:13:41.340 --> 00:13:46.900 communities are perfectly located between our two largest locations. We have a church there. We know 00:13:46.900 --> 00:13:52.900 that that will be a location, but let's let it, let's let it start to organically grow, let people hear 00:13:52.900 --> 00:13:57.900 about it, let people get excited, but then kind of almost demand, Hey, we want bring pop up here. We 00:13:57.900 --> 00:14:05.280 want pop up. So, um, in our first night out there, we had 700 people. So we knew, we knew that, 00:14:05.280 --> 00:14:08.860 but that's kind of what we expected. We were kind of thinking that was going to happen. 00:14:09.160 --> 00:14:14.560 Yeah. Like walk me through six months, nine months. What's, what's the, what's the timeline? How many, 00:14:14.940 --> 00:14:20.300 how many trips are you going out to these areas? How are people connecting? Are there things other 00:14:20.300 --> 00:14:25.780 than just the pop-up church experience that you're using to create community? Like what, what, what, 00:14:25.780 --> 00:14:31.720 walk me through a six to nine month time period from a campus is going to nothing to, Hey, we're ready 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:39.800 to call this the XYZ campus. So, um, the, so in the second half of 2018, those were connect events that 00:14:39.800 --> 00:14:44.460 were starting to get the things in the water saying we're coming. Once we launched church in January, 00:14:44.460 --> 00:14:51.140 we only went once a month to the first two locations. And then we added the third location 00:14:51.140 --> 00:14:56.440 in there along the way in, in between there, we have something, uh, we call the journey. So that's an 00:14:56.440 --> 00:15:00.980 opportunity for people to find out more about the church. It's a four week class, one hour. So we 00:15:00.980 --> 00:15:06.820 started doing hosting journeys in those locations. So people had another touch point with us. Um, 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:13.420 we, after each service, we created a, like a 45, 50 minute connect window. So, so each month we'd have, 00:15:13.420 --> 00:15:18.820 uh, the service worship, everything we did, we dismissed. And then we dismissed to basically an 00:15:18.820 --> 00:15:23.600 after party that after party was building and pointing people towards the next time we were coming back. 00:15:23.760 --> 00:15:29.140 Also an opportunity for us to connect with them. Our team was all out there, highly engaged. We had all of 00:15:29.140 --> 00:15:35.140 our, uh, ministries that we were offering in that location. So like our groups were groups based church. 00:15:35.300 --> 00:15:40.220 So we had all of our groups teams out there saying, Hey, we're, we have groups already being built. So we 00:15:40.220 --> 00:15:45.420 were, um, getting people in groups right from day one, trying to build groups down in those two communities 00:15:45.420 --> 00:15:50.520 right off the bat. And then also starting up students and young adults and all of those things that we 00:15:50.520 --> 00:15:56.360 offer. We don't offer every single ministry that like, for instance, a garden, the Royal Palm, because we just 00:15:56.360 --> 00:16:00.920 can't. We, number one, we don't have a building. We don't have a location. We can't be there seven days a 00:16:00.920 --> 00:16:08.020 week. So we had to pick and choose the best things to offer to build community in those locations. And that 00:16:08.020 --> 00:16:12.820 seemed to be journey. So they could find out who we even are. Like, is this a church I even want to be a part of? 00:16:13.280 --> 00:16:19.120 So journey was a huge resource. Groups were probably our biggest resource to be able to get people 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:23.200 connected and start to match people up and say, Hey man, there's a whole bunch of young adults here. 00:16:23.520 --> 00:16:27.560 Hang out. These are your people. They've got a couple of groups going, go check it out. We're not 00:16:27.560 --> 00:16:31.220 making you sign up for anything. We just want you to see what's available. And if you want to be a part 00:16:31.220 --> 00:16:38.620 of it. So kind of, um, driving those from the beginning, then we added. So after, um, we didn't really 00:16:38.620 --> 00:16:42.420 have a timeline. We were like, let's figure this thing out. We don't know what it's going to look like or how 00:16:42.420 --> 00:16:48.020 fast it's going to build. We knew about the fourth month that we, they were getting anxious already. People 00:16:48.020 --> 00:16:54.660 want it faster, quicker. Now we want a church. Now we've, we've seen the website we've been on. We've seen 00:16:54.660 --> 00:17:00.880 everything that you guys offer. We want it. You like give it to us. So that kind of changed our conversations 00:17:00.880 --> 00:17:05.160 around what do we do next? Where do we take them? So we said, let's go twice a month. So we have a couple 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:10.480 expressions and all out of all of our locations. We have two evening expressions. One's called a city 00:17:10.480 --> 00:17:14.900 nights and one's called an oaky nights. And these are kind of more creative, a little more worship, 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:20.580 live teaching. And so that was kind of what we modeled pop-up after for the first six months. 00:17:21.100 --> 00:17:25.580 Then we were, then we had to reevaluate. So what do we do? So in that six months, we're like, okay, 00:17:25.580 --> 00:17:30.300 they want more. Let's give them two services a month and let's go ahead and bring in video teaching 00:17:30.300 --> 00:17:36.320 that we use on the weekend and see how that, how that worked. Our northern most, the furthest North 00:17:36.320 --> 00:17:43.460 Vero location went crazy. People just, they loved it. They were all in. So we said, let's identify the 00:17:43.460 --> 00:17:49.240 campus pastor. Let's start, look for a building. We found a building fairly quickly. And so we, we told 00:17:49.240 --> 00:17:53.920 them, we said, Hey, here's your campus pastor. This is your location. This is a building. And that place 00:17:53.920 --> 00:17:59.700 just took off. People are engaged. They're hungry. They're excited. And then we, as a church, 00:17:59.700 --> 00:18:05.500 we started something brand new called, um, freedom. And it's a freedom study that our pastors wrote. 00:18:05.740 --> 00:18:11.940 And right now as a church, we're taking almost 14,000 people through freedom. And so we offered 00:18:11.940 --> 00:18:18.460 freedom in Vero and the people went crazy. They were overflowed with freedom on Wednesday nights. So now 00:18:18.460 --> 00:18:23.500 in Vero, they have a campus pastor, they have a building, they have freedom every single week that 00:18:23.500 --> 00:18:28.060 they're part of, which is, which are study groups that we will launch into groups. We have about 00:18:28.060 --> 00:18:34.780 probably 200 people in groups. And so that's been our, that'll be our first launch. That one's 00:18:34.780 --> 00:18:39.940 already in launch sequence right now. We're launching that in the beginning of 2020, as soon as we can get 00:18:39.940 --> 00:18:44.540 the building done. And, uh, that's kind of how that one ramped up. You said you were utilizing church 00:18:44.540 --> 00:18:49.960 online. It's kind of give you a heat map of some areas to go and, and, and some are stronger than 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:53.480 others. You mentioned the West seems to be working better for you, uh, just because 00:18:53.500 --> 00:19:00.120 of proximity of cities. But like, do you guys, when you go into the area, like, are you just looking at that 00:19:00.120 --> 00:19:06.780 heat map or are you digging in and investigating leadership or is leadership kind of arising out of it? 00:19:06.860 --> 00:19:11.100 What, what's your process to really get to the core team? Who's going to be in any given area? 00:19:11.100 --> 00:19:15.600 That's a little bit different. Those two conversations really aren't connected. The first 00:19:15.600 --> 00:19:21.860 conversation was as a leadership team, which is a, which is a group of like five to seven of our senior 00:19:21.860 --> 00:19:26.500 leadership start praying about looking at heat maps. There's interest in there. So we're, we're looking 00:19:26.500 --> 00:19:31.600 at, okay, we've got people watching online. Let's pray about it. Is this scenario that we feel like 00:19:31.600 --> 00:19:35.360 we're supposed to go into? And then as God starts to open doors and stir the waters up, we're like, 00:19:35.400 --> 00:19:39.760 okay, we're going now. We've been working with something for multiple years called leadership 00:19:39.760 --> 00:19:44.680 college here at Christ fellowship. We have people in the pipeline that have been part of leadership 00:19:44.680 --> 00:19:49.260 college or on team and other roles, but they've been identified and we've been watching them to 00:19:49.260 --> 00:19:54.680 say, okay, this person could go here. This person could go there. They seem like a better fit for 00:19:54.680 --> 00:19:59.200 one location versus the other. So we start having those conversations with them, just kind of getting 00:19:59.200 --> 00:20:04.000 in the water to see how they're feeling. And then our senior pastor did something really cool a few 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:08.840 months ago. And, uh, they took a staff meeting. So every Wednesday, our entire staff comes together 00:20:08.840 --> 00:20:14.260 for a staff meeting. And, uh, pastor Julie said, Hey, God, just kind of put it on my heart. And I 00:20:14.260 --> 00:20:18.800 want to throw it out there. If you, if you are feeling stirred for one of these regions or one of 00:20:18.800 --> 00:20:23.020 these locations, or maybe you're at one and you feel like God saying, Hey, I want you to be a part of 00:20:23.020 --> 00:20:27.260 this one. I just want you to raise your hand and let's start the conversation. And so we just threw 00:20:27.260 --> 00:20:32.080 it out there to see who was, who was interested, who was praying about what, what was God stirring people's 00:20:32.080 --> 00:20:38.020 heart. And how could we, how could we help them, you know, realize that sweet spot. And, uh, it was 00:20:38.020 --> 00:20:41.920 pretty cool. We had, we had multiple people raise their hand and say, Hey, I'm really, really feeling 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:47.460 stirred to be a part of this location, really feel stirred to be a part of that location. Um, and then 00:20:47.460 --> 00:20:51.680 the position that's probably the hardest to fill as a campus pastor, because there's so much 00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:57.620 weight, there's so much trust, there's so much culture, all the things that we really just, 00:20:57.620 --> 00:21:05.740 we, we, we pray about so hard and we look for, um, we look for these different opportunities and 00:21:05.740 --> 00:21:10.500 different leaders and to see if, man, do they look like a campus pastor? Are they starting to do 00:21:10.500 --> 00:21:14.660 things? Are they pastoring people without having the title? All of these different things that we 00:21:14.660 --> 00:21:20.840 look for as leadership. And so we have a secret list, I guess you can say of 15 to 20 people that 00:21:20.840 --> 00:21:26.400 are on this list that we're like, man, this is, they could be campus pastors. And so there's a 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:30.820 myself, I sit on the multi-site team. So we start to look at it first and say, Hey, 00:21:31.320 --> 00:21:35.360 yeah, we're all in agreement. These could be, these, these would be great candidates for campus 00:21:35.360 --> 00:21:39.500 pastor. Let's pray about it. So, and then we, we toss it out there to our directional leadership 00:21:39.500 --> 00:21:43.040 team, which is our senior pastors and executive pastors and say, Hey, this is who we're praying 00:21:43.040 --> 00:21:47.520 about. Tell us what, what do you see? What don't you see? What do you like? What don't you 00:21:47.520 --> 00:21:50.760 like? Is there hangups? Is there things that we need to process? And 00:21:50.760 --> 00:21:56.200 look into. And then it takes a little while. So for instance, the Vero campus pastor, 00:21:56.420 --> 00:22:03.540 he was, he was on the list for probably a year and a half. And it took probably about seven months 00:22:03.540 --> 00:22:10.340 of stacking hands, praying, really just everyone flipping over every leaf rock that we could to 00:22:10.340 --> 00:22:16.600 make sure. And ultimately we all stacked hands and said, yeah, that's the, and what's cool is when 00:22:16.600 --> 00:22:20.680 we got to that point, God had already stirred their hearts. And even though they never raised their 00:22:20.680 --> 00:22:25.780 hand and said, Hey, we want to be a part of Vero. As soon as we, as soon as we asked, they were like, 00:22:26.120 --> 00:22:31.680 we're in. And so since then, we've just seen God already moved that before we ever even launched 00:22:31.680 --> 00:22:34.940 church there. They're building church like crazy. And it's, it's really cool to watch. 00:22:35.620 --> 00:22:44.940 Hmm. Very cool. So at this point, how many pop-up church services are you running a week? You're 00:22:44.940 --> 00:22:50.140 juggling the four locations. Yep. Like it's the, I'm just doing math in my head and like 00:22:50.140 --> 00:22:54.680 your, your road kits probably hitting like, it's more than one road kit, right? 00:22:55.140 --> 00:22:59.880 Well, so what we've, what we had to do with two of them is kind of do a look. So one of them 00:22:59.880 --> 00:23:05.800 is a, is a location where we're doing, we're hosting freedom right now. So freedom is being hosted 00:23:05.800 --> 00:23:09.540 there midweek. We're not doing a weekend experience there. Okay. 00:23:09.540 --> 00:23:16.160 In another location, we're doing, um, off night expressions of service there. So we can have 00:23:16.160 --> 00:23:23.220 Sunday nights specifically for Boca and Vero. So right now, um, the first and the third week 00:23:23.220 --> 00:23:28.620 are, we're in Vero and the second and the fourth week we're in Boca. And we communicated ahead 00:23:28.620 --> 00:23:32.020 of time to the other two, like, Hey, once we put these in launch sequence, we're going to 00:23:32.020 --> 00:23:35.780 have to pull back, but don't, don't worry. We're not going anywhere. We're coming back stronger 00:23:35.780 --> 00:23:40.360 than ever before. As soon as we launched one of them, you're up next for a two, two week 00:23:40.360 --> 00:23:45.180 rotation until we can get you launched. And really we, we did that ourselves by launching 00:23:45.180 --> 00:23:49.340 them at the same time. It put us in a different, it put us in a weird spot. So we just have to 00:23:49.340 --> 00:23:52.520 get through this, these first couple of launches and then we'll be, we'll be okay. 00:23:53.740 --> 00:24:00.240 Can you guys sustain like this, this amount of four campuses a year? Like this, does your 00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:08.960 multi-site process allow for launching four? Well, I would say, you don't ask that question. 00:24:09.620 --> 00:24:15.760 I would, no, no, we, we've asked it. We've, we've had tireless meetings about this. Um, 00:24:16.100 --> 00:24:21.220 we are going to have to pause at some point because we are, we've never launched two in one year before. 00:24:21.600 --> 00:24:25.600 The most we've done is like, we had, we had to go within nine months of each other 00:24:25.600 --> 00:24:30.980 in two separate years. Um, but we've never, we've never launched two in one year. We've 00:24:30.980 --> 00:24:36.520 certainly never launched three in one year. And, um, we're in position we could launch four in 2020 00:24:36.520 --> 00:24:44.460 if we, if we wanted to. So, uh, all, everybody has been put on, cause I think a lot of people 00:24:44.460 --> 00:24:48.820 were like, is this even going to work? Like, should we really get riled up about this? Or should we 00:24:48.820 --> 00:24:53.600 really get put on notice and start building teams and people before we even know if this is a real 00:24:53.600 --> 00:25:01.100 deal? So I think after the first quarter of 2019, people were like, okay, we need to have some 00:25:01.100 --> 00:25:05.720 meetings. So we've been meeting with all of our core directors and just saying, Hey, who, who, 00:25:05.820 --> 00:25:11.360 who do you have up next? And as a leadership team, we've said, okay, we probably need a pause on 00:25:11.360 --> 00:25:16.520 something so we can start to fill our benches back up because right now we're depleting, we're 00:25:16.520 --> 00:25:22.660 depleting all of our, all of our roster spots. Um, so we're okay right now and prayerfully 00:25:22.660 --> 00:25:26.100 leadership college and some of the other things we're doing, we'll backfill these spots quicker 00:25:26.100 --> 00:25:33.340 than, um, but we feel, we feel like this is what God's put us on this. He's continuing to open doors 00:25:33.340 --> 00:25:39.200 that just blow our minds. So we're like, we can't say, we can't say no, we have to, we have to go if 00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:43.360 he's opening doors and providing this and he, we're just trusting him that he's going to have the right 00:25:43.360 --> 00:25:50.840 people step up at the right time. And, um, but we, we are very cautious about what we're doing to our 00:25:50.840 --> 00:25:55.700 teams, that the amount of pressure this is, but like our worship and live production teams are 00:25:55.700 --> 00:26:00.740 stretched to the max right now. Um, but they're, they've got some plans in place. They just shared 00:26:00.740 --> 00:26:04.520 them with us this morning as, Hey, this is what we're doing. This is where we're headed. This is how 00:26:04.520 --> 00:26:11.260 we're trying to, um, fill all the gaps so that we can, we can be ready to cover. And, uh, it's pretty 00:26:11.260 --> 00:26:17.360 cool. Yeah. Here, and let me just put it in the context, uh, cause obviously podcast audience may 00:26:17.360 --> 00:26:23.640 not be familiar with Christ Fellowship West Palm. Um, the production values at the Christ Fellowship 00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:29.140 West Palm campuses arguably are some of the highest in South Florida. You know, I mean, I can, I can 00:26:29.140 --> 00:26:35.020 probably rattle off three or four that are in the same sentence and you guys forgive me for even like 00:26:35.020 --> 00:26:40.040 uttering the sentence. You guys just, you put on a great show. There's lots of, of product, and I'm a 00:26:40.040 --> 00:26:44.560 production guy, so I don't mean that insulting. It's just, there's a lot of effort and energy that goes 00:26:44.560 --> 00:26:52.460 into, uh, creating that worship experience. Um, now does that, does that port to like all these other 00:26:52.460 --> 00:26:57.380 places? Like you're talking about putting together this road pack and traveling it around. Like, are 00:26:57.380 --> 00:27:03.480 you doing movers? Are you doing, you know, jump backs, cameras, like all the, the high energy stuff. So 00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:11.000 like the, uh, the, the pop-up churches are getting that same experience or is it like, what, what does it 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:18.860 feel like? Yeah. Um, so if you went to our location that have like all the roving cameras, 00:27:19.260 --> 00:27:25.040 roving, rovering cameras and all of that stuff like that at our gardens location and, um, one of those, 00:27:25.120 --> 00:27:31.680 we're not doing the camera portion of it, but they still get all the movers. They get an LED wall. I 00:27:31.680 --> 00:27:38.800 mean, it's top, top notch. Um, our team, I was just bragging on our team this morning because man, 00:27:38.860 --> 00:27:44.460 the production team has blown us away. All of our gear is road worthy. They have built a system that 00:27:44.460 --> 00:27:51.000 is absolutely incredible. Um, everything stays in road cases in the platform is so clean. It would, 00:27:51.060 --> 00:27:55.860 it's amazing. I wish I had some pictures I could share with you of, of what it looks like. Um, 00:27:55.860 --> 00:28:02.380 I'll get some this weekend in case you want me to send them to you, but, um, they, they have a full, 00:28:02.500 --> 00:28:08.940 you know, we'll have four frontline vocals. We have a full band. We have everything on platform that 00:28:08.940 --> 00:28:14.900 you would see at any of our other locations. The lights are incredible. Um, we have a massive LED wall 00:28:14.900 --> 00:28:23.280 that assembles in like an hour. It's crazy how it all goes together. Um, we have six trucks on the road 00:28:23.280 --> 00:28:33.440 that hold all the gear. So six, six. Oh my goodness. Yeah. This is a big deal. Six trucks. So, um, 00:28:33.540 --> 00:28:39.260 two of the locations we go to and potentially the third location we go to, they don't have the power. 00:28:39.260 --> 00:28:45.500 So first we have to take a massive generator with us, um, that, that powers the whole deal. We have 00:28:45.500 --> 00:28:52.220 two 26 foot trucks that are just production gear. So the LED wall, all of our, our PA, everything that 00:28:52.220 --> 00:28:59.420 we need lights. Um, fortunately we're not putting up a platform anywhere. We, we, we've got venues 00:28:59.420 --> 00:29:05.380 that allow us to have a platform. So we don't have to set up a stage or anything. Um, all the worship 00:29:05.380 --> 00:29:11.900 gear, keys, drums, you name it. It's all in road cases rolls out. And then we have a third 26 foot 00:29:11.900 --> 00:29:21.500 truck is all of our kids gear. So if you came to, um, Palmage gardens or any of our permanent locations, 00:29:21.500 --> 00:29:27.380 you would see pop-up walls. You would see full setups with kids environments, all of the awesome 00:29:27.380 --> 00:29:31.880 stuff on the walls and all the pictures and all of the environments that are appropriate for those age 00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:36.380 groups. And we have made pop-up walls that have all that same stuff on there. So these pop-up walls come 00:29:36.380 --> 00:29:42.660 in cases and we, we pop them up. They're 10 foot by 10 foot. And those wall off all of the kids' rooms. 00:29:42.660 --> 00:29:51.960 And so there's, there's five environments of those. And then we have our last truck is, um, full of like 00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:56.560 all of our environment, common areas, like our next steps area, journey tables, groups tables, 00:29:56.560 --> 00:30:04.360 all the ministries, students, young adults that we set up areas for them to connect. And then our 00:30:04.360 --> 00:30:12.440 environmental pieces. So, um, high tops and stuff in the foyer lights and banners and all of our core 00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:17.640 values and leadership principles and things we put up all over the place. So you guys have invested a lot 00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:24.580 into this model. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. And that's, and that's, that's generating your results of, of like 00:30:24.580 --> 00:30:31.720 up to potentially four campuses a year, assuming they, they mature and grow as planned. Yep. We could, 00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:37.720 we, we don't see any reason why, um, why we couldn't launch four campuses a year. And honestly, 00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:42.600 you nailed it. It's the people. We just have to be careful that we don't burn our people out 00:30:42.600 --> 00:30:47.720 and that we, we are caring for our people and our teams first, cause we can only go so far. 00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:52.320 They're only, we're only gonna be able to go as far as they, they allow us to go. So, um, those are 00:30:52.320 --> 00:30:56.180 some of the things that we're working on right now, because we could, we could literally build another 00:30:56.180 --> 00:31:02.020 rig and be doing four more locations. Um, now that we built it and we know what, we know what it is. 00:31:02.660 --> 00:31:10.800 Um, so yeah, we've, we've, uh, worked really hard to make things super portable and easy to get 00:31:10.800 --> 00:31:18.560 in and out, up and down. So we set, we set a whole campus up in about two to two and a half hours. 00:31:18.900 --> 00:31:24.260 Everything from live productions, kids rooms, environments, everything. 00:31:24.760 --> 00:31:29.220 You guys process six trucks in two, two and a half hours. 00:31:29.580 --> 00:31:29.880 Yes. 00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:37.860 Wow. Like that, that, that's impressive. That's, yeah. I'm just going back to like my other experience 00:31:37.860 --> 00:31:43.180 in live production and I just can tell you how much I respect that because that, that's, that's a lot of 00:31:43.180 --> 00:31:49.460 work in a, in a really short amount of time. Uh, and so having the, uh, having the manpower to pull 00:31:49.460 --> 00:31:51.020 that off is, is really impressive. 00:31:51.020 --> 00:31:57.640 And honestly, it's mostly volunteers. So we'll have, we'll have probably, uh, so last night we popped up, 00:31:57.700 --> 00:32:04.780 we had, um, 28 volunteers and probably, probably about 18 staff. 00:32:05.840 --> 00:32:06.240 Okay. 00:32:06.740 --> 00:32:07.400 To do that. 00:32:07.840 --> 00:32:14.120 How do you, like when you pick location five or, or, or one of these that you already have, 00:32:14.120 --> 00:32:19.680 like you just pull up to the corner, unload and say, you know, here we are, or are you guys doing 00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:22.240 marketing or promotions in, in the area? 00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:27.340 If I was picking number five right now, I've already picked it. Um, it was, it actually came 00:32:27.340 --> 00:32:33.020 to us another God story. We had a, we had a coach reach out to us. Um, we try to get into the 00:32:33.020 --> 00:32:37.200 community first. So what we can, what can we do to serve the community? How can we serve the schools? 00:32:37.260 --> 00:32:41.500 How can we serve what's already going on there? What can we, is there another church doing something 00:32:41.500 --> 00:32:47.320 that we can just come support and be a part of it? Um, because we know, um, in South Florida, 00:32:47.320 --> 00:32:51.740 in our region, there's 1.5 million people who don't know who Jesus is, never met him, 00:32:51.980 --> 00:32:58.060 never heard about him. Don't, don't care to because they don't know. Um, and so we know there can, 00:32:58.280 --> 00:33:03.060 there, there's not enough churches. We can, we can put them up on all over the place, pop up all 00:33:03.060 --> 00:33:09.840 over and have two, 300 person churches and never reach the 1.5 million. Um, so we look for 00:33:09.840 --> 00:33:15.840 opportunities to, to serve a school, to serve a ministry, to serve something, the community 00:33:15.840 --> 00:33:20.880 government, get with the mayor. The one that number five right now, if this is what ends up 00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:27.080 being number five was a, was a coach that reached out, had a need for, um, it's a low income area 00:33:27.080 --> 00:33:32.980 and the school didn't have enough food to, to feed the football team for their games. And so we got 00:33:32.980 --> 00:33:38.020 word that, Hey, you could, you guys could serve and, uh, help feed the football team. And so we're 00:33:38.020 --> 00:33:43.700 like, let's, let's go. What do we got to do? Um, which just opened up to another conversation and 00:33:43.700 --> 00:33:47.740 found out the principles of believer, the coaches of believer. And they're like, we don't have, 00:33:47.820 --> 00:33:52.640 we don't have no church that wants to support us. We don't have a church that, uh, that loves on us. 00:33:52.660 --> 00:33:57.800 We don't have a church that sits in our school. Take it. And we're like, okay, well, here we go. 00:33:58.020 --> 00:34:04.440 So, um, the, the third location was kind of the same way. There was a smaller church meeting there 00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:09.120 and just hadn't, hadn't found their, their rhythm. And they just threw conversation with them. They're 00:34:09.120 --> 00:34:14.160 like, man, we would love for you guys to, um, to just come in this community and blow it up. Like, 00:34:14.160 --> 00:34:18.740 tell us what we got to do to help. And the, met with the assistant principal, turns out he's a 00:34:18.740 --> 00:34:22.700 believer. And he's like, man, whatever I got to do to open the doors to get you guys in here and let 00:34:22.700 --> 00:34:26.480 us know. So honestly, those have been the opportunities we've had right out of the gate. 00:34:26.740 --> 00:34:31.740 We'll probably get a little more strategic as we get further away. Um, you know, we're praying 00:34:31.740 --> 00:34:39.320 about going to Orlando. Should we, should we take the pop-up trucks to Orlando and go to Orlando? 00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:45.240 We're, we're praying. We, uh, we originally were praying about our little region and we felt like 00:34:45.240 --> 00:34:49.680 God was like, why are you, why are you just worried about that little spot? Like I have so much more. 00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:56.900 And so we're like, okay, if it's inside Florida now, we feel like let's go. So we don't know what 00:34:56.900 --> 00:35:00.420 God's going to do. We don't, we don't know what doors he's going to continue to open. But right now 00:35:00.420 --> 00:35:07.240 he's been, he's been amazing supplying us with opportunities and people have been so nice to us. 00:35:07.240 --> 00:35:12.080 We've had mayors reaching out some of the disaster relief that we've been able to be a part of too. 00:35:12.180 --> 00:35:16.980 We saw open doors. So like hurricane door and just came through Bahamas and getting local government 00:35:16.980 --> 00:35:21.020 people involved in that and really supporting the Bahamas has opened up even more doors. So 00:35:21.020 --> 00:35:27.940 the fourth location, um, that we're working on right now, which will be a campus for sure. Um, 00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:33.740 was a lot of the, the mayor and the vice mayor just coming to us saying, Hey, can, uh, can you guys 00:35:33.740 --> 00:35:37.880 come help? And we're like, absolutely. How can, what can we do? You tell us what to do. We're doing it. 00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:43.200 And so, um, it was so cool. Another God thing. They just said, we need, we need water in preparation 00:35:43.200 --> 00:35:49.940 for when the storm passes, because we know we'll be the last ones to get water. And so within five 00:35:49.940 --> 00:35:53.300 minutes, someone called and said, I have a semi truckload of water. I got nowhere to take it. 00:35:53.340 --> 00:35:58.680 Where can you, where can we take it? And we're like, take it here, take it to the city. And so we, 00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:02.460 they rolled up with a semi truck full of water and the mayor was like, whatever you guys need. 00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:09.900 Um, so it's just cool. God keeps just giving us those awesome opportunities and we're excited, 00:36:09.900 --> 00:36:16.780 um, just to be, to be able to be a part of it. That's, that is so awesome. Who over, over the, 00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:20.820 I mean, you just, you're new on this road, right? You started, you were saying 2018 earlier, 00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:26.640 who, who's been your, your inspiration? Who have you looked at and said, Hey, like we want to maybe 00:36:26.640 --> 00:36:30.660 borrow a little bit from this or, or what other churches have been looking at that have been doing 00:36:30.660 --> 00:36:41.120 something similar? Um, actually, uh, no, we, this was really the heart of our, um, lead pastors, 00:36:41.260 --> 00:36:46.740 Todd and Julie. They just, they are so burdened for the loss, the broken, the hopeless. And they're 00:36:46.740 --> 00:36:52.100 like, what, what do we got to do? How can we get to more? We, when we looked at what we had done as 00:36:52.100 --> 00:36:57.600 a church and we launched. So when I stepped on in, in, uh, 2013 and we had, we were getting ready to 00:36:57.600 --> 00:37:05.060 launch our number eight, we launched eight, nine, 10 campuses. And when I was stepping in the number 00:37:05.060 --> 00:37:10.120 was 1.3 million in our region who didn't know Jesus was. And after those three campuses, which 00:37:10.120 --> 00:37:15.840 have been amazing success stories, they're, they're just so much life is happening there. God has done 00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:21.940 so much at those three locations. The number goes to 1.5 million. So we're not gaining any ground. So 00:37:21.940 --> 00:37:26.180 how do we gain some ground? And so really the heart behind it was our pastors was let's build 00:37:26.180 --> 00:37:30.060 something we can give away. What if we could build this? What if we could give it away to all of the 00:37:30.060 --> 00:37:34.820 other churches that are ready to go after this? And, and if, I don't know if you've been to our 00:37:34.820 --> 00:37:40.340 conferences or, or any of that, but they really opened the cupboards at our conference and say, 00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:44.540 take what you need, here's your resources. If you can help, if he can help you build church, 00:37:44.580 --> 00:37:49.980 we want you to have it. And so that was really the heart behind pop up is let's build it. 00:37:50.640 --> 00:37:55.720 Let's, let's be okay to fail or let's be okay to spend a few extra dollars to figure out how to do 00:37:55.720 --> 00:38:00.620 it right so that we can give it away. And then what if, what if 15 churches across the state of 00:38:00.620 --> 00:38:05.600 Florida said, let's go pop up. And then we had, you know, all of these churches and then the whole 00:38:05.600 --> 00:38:10.180 3.3 million in our state that don't know who Jesus is would be have an opportunity to hear about it. 00:38:10.720 --> 00:38:17.100 So we don't know anybody that's doing it. We've heard some, some opportunities where people are 00:38:17.100 --> 00:38:24.520 doing their version of it. It doesn't look like what we're doing. They're, they're doing it more. 00:38:25.240 --> 00:38:29.260 There's some of them that are doing it more of like an event style. And we've all, we've helped some 00:38:29.260 --> 00:38:32.660 of them there. There's three or four churches across the country that have tried it and they've launched 00:38:32.660 --> 00:38:37.800 locations, um, or in the process of launching locations out of it, which is really cool, um, 00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:43.060 that we were able to just lock arm and say, Hey, let's, we'll share what we got, use it if it don't 00:38:43.060 --> 00:38:49.180 work. But yeah, I know of a couple, maybe not at the, at the size of what you're doing, smaller to 00:38:49.180 --> 00:38:54.780 medium sized churches that'll like do several, you know, like an Easter, a couple Easter services or 00:38:54.780 --> 00:39:01.160 Christmas service kind of in that seasonal time and try to use it as a, as a public forward facing, 00:39:01.160 --> 00:39:07.980 easy to access church and then funnel them into a physical campus or funnel them into a, like an 00:39:07.980 --> 00:39:12.920 online digital discipleship pathway to get them connected to the online campus or something like 00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:18.360 that. But I've, I've to, to the level and the success that you guys have had of, of launching 00:39:18.360 --> 00:39:24.840 campuses or, or, um, incubating is the word that I've been trying to come up with for the past hour, 00:39:25.240 --> 00:39:29.300 incubating these, these communities to the point where they can grow to become a campus. 00:39:29.300 --> 00:39:34.120 Yeah. Like I don't know anybody that's had the, uh, the success that it sounds like you 00:39:34.120 --> 00:39:37.860 guys have had. And so, man, what, what an incredible idea. Well done. 00:39:38.260 --> 00:39:44.320 Yeah. And I, and I'll be honest, we're there are our furthest South region. It's not, it's 00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:49.260 not at the level of the other ones, but we, we feel like that's kind of our fault because 00:39:49.260 --> 00:39:54.680 we took too long to one of the things we've seen in the, let's just society today. People want it 00:39:54.680 --> 00:40:01.180 faster, quicker, sooner. They don't want to wait. So we've taken a little bit too long on the Southern, 00:40:01.180 --> 00:40:06.140 um, location. So we're actually having some meetings all this week of what, where do we go 00:40:06.140 --> 00:40:11.260 next with, like, we have to move that campus forward or that location forward. If it's going to 00:40:11.260 --> 00:40:16.600 be a campus, the Northern one was just an opportunity where God opened so many doors so fast. We were 00:40:16.600 --> 00:40:20.960 like, we have to go, like, we have to take these chances, which, which again, this is where those 00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:27.320 two are competing with each other. And it, it's kind of, uh, it's kind of put the Southern campus 00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:31.700 off. Like they're like, you know what, we're watching all of this excitement up there. And we're 00:40:31.700 --> 00:40:36.060 trying to explain, man, we haven't had those kinds of doors open here. We're like, we're, 00:40:36.220 --> 00:40:39.620 we're, it's a harder ground. We're fighting harder. Like we're not giving up. Like we're, 00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:44.340 we're going after it with everything we got, but it's just not, it hasn't been. And then, um, 00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:50.600 um, it's close enough to another location where we, we know that people are going to that other 00:40:50.600 --> 00:40:55.240 location. So we're just trying to figure that out in the Southern one, but we, we fully believe 00:40:55.240 --> 00:41:02.160 we have over 500 people connected there. So we fully believe it's a, it's a campus that's going to 00:41:02.160 --> 00:41:07.460 grow and could be a huge one down the road. Um, but it's just been some delays that have been 00:41:07.460 --> 00:41:12.600 unfortunate, but we're going to figure it out and we won't launch two at the same time again. 00:41:15.300 --> 00:41:20.800 Lessons learned. Hey, so we normally talk a lot about church online in the podcast. This has been 00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:27.080 an exception, but I do know like, this has been from an innovative idea. Like I'm, I was really 00:41:27.080 --> 00:41:32.620 looking forward to this, this conversation and it went phenomenal, but let me ask this. What's the role? 00:41:32.620 --> 00:41:38.580 How do you guys at Christ Fellowship West Palm Beach, what's the role of church online in this? 00:41:38.680 --> 00:41:44.020 I know you're looking at it up front for the, for the heat map, uh, for potential areas for what's 00:41:44.020 --> 00:41:48.980 next. What other role does, uh, church online, online campus play at Christ Fellowship? 00:41:49.560 --> 00:41:54.360 So it actually plays a huge role. And so what we use in our earlier, the first, 00:41:54.460 --> 00:41:58.900 like the very first time we pop up, we don't, we don't have anything really to connect them to 00:41:58.900 --> 00:42:06.160 except church online, which is a huge tool, huge resource and a huge way for us to, um, just to 00:42:06.160 --> 00:42:12.300 continue that connection. So we, we start messaging church online right out of the gate day one, just 00:42:12.300 --> 00:42:16.360 like, Hey, the three weeks we're not here. We want you to go online. Go Christ Fellowship.com 00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:22.460 log on, check us out. We got services every single week. We've got pastors on there. And then we, we do 00:42:22.460 --> 00:42:28.260 something called made for Monday. So, um, every single Monday we go in church online and we do a live 00:42:28.260 --> 00:42:34.340 prayer. Um, just this opportunity to, where they see my face or one of the pastors that they might 00:42:34.340 --> 00:42:41.640 recognize. We do a live 10 may the longest would be 15 minutes, but we pray over people that are from 00:42:41.640 --> 00:42:46.020 the different areas. So we're like, Hey, sending your prayer requests live. And it just gives us 00:42:46.020 --> 00:42:49.700 another opportunity to connect. So if we didn't have that, we didn't have church online and we 00:42:49.700 --> 00:42:54.920 didn't have that opportunity, it would have made pop up a whole lot harder because we wouldn't have 00:42:54.920 --> 00:43:00.880 that extra opportunity to connect. And now we're doing some, we got groups online. We've got the 00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:04.680 online chat hosts that are in there having conversations with them where I can't have all 00:43:04.680 --> 00:43:09.800 these conversations. My team can't have all these conversations, but we've got this massive 00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:14.660 resource of church online where they can get on there and say, man, I'm in, you know, I'm from 00:43:14.660 --> 00:43:18.320 Boca and I'm just, I'm really going through something with my family right now. I could use 00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:21.640 some prayer and, and they're getting prayed for it. They're getting loved on, they're getting 00:43:21.640 --> 00:43:26.940 connected. They're having that opportunity. And then we tell them, Hey, get together. Um, one of 00:43:26.940 --> 00:43:33.180 the things we learned from Elevation is how they do, they launch church through, um, uh, like 00:43:33.180 --> 00:43:38.200 watch parties where they just have people come over to a house, three or four couples get 00:43:38.200 --> 00:43:42.780 together. Maybe they're having coffee or whatever. And they, they turn church online on and they watch 00:43:42.780 --> 00:43:48.980 and they have a, uh, you know, house party and, um, watch party. And so we started messaging that 00:43:48.980 --> 00:43:53.060 we're like, Hey, some of our churches that are friends are doing this. We want to encourage you 00:43:53.060 --> 00:43:57.400 guys that three weeks we're not here, get some of the friends that you brought tonight, have them 00:43:57.400 --> 00:44:02.060 over for coffee and bagels, put church online, have church together. And you know what? We might just 00:44:02.060 --> 00:44:06.600 show up. So me and my wife and some of our team, we would just find out and we'd go pop in their 00:44:06.600 --> 00:44:13.640 house and watch church online and, uh, just having a lot of fun with it and letting it build church, 00:44:13.640 --> 00:44:20.120 but not forcing anything, but really, um, online church has been, you know, priceless as far as a 00:44:20.120 --> 00:44:25.440 tool goes for us to be able to keep people connected. And then using our pastors, we've got a dozen 00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:32.800 pastors that pop on and do made for Mondays. And, and we try to shout out anybody or, um, if I know 00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:37.400 somebody's going through something, I'll just, I'll use their first name only and pray for them and say, 00:44:37.460 --> 00:44:42.680 Hey, I know John's down in Boca and he's, he's had a rough week. He's trying to find a job. So John, 00:44:42.680 --> 00:44:47.080 I just want you to know, I'm praying for you. I'm believing God's got something for you. I can't 00:44:47.080 --> 00:44:51.600 wait to see you in a couple of weeks back down there. Um, our team's praying for you, be blessed, 00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:57.460 you know, maybe share scripture, some kind of scriptural thought that he could just take. And 00:44:57.460 --> 00:45:00.340 then I'll, and then I'll tell him, I was like, man, did you see me? I was praying for you online. 00:45:00.740 --> 00:45:09.580 And, uh, so it's, it's a huge resource and our pastor is amazing helping have those conversations 00:45:09.580 --> 00:45:15.160 and sending me feedback. Let me know, Hey, I just talked to this person. You might want to reach out 00:45:15.160 --> 00:45:21.440 to them. So very cool. Yeah. It's, it's such a, it's such a powerful tool to help, um, connect the 00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:26.040 DNA of, of who you are, even when you, when you're not there doing the long distance and, and a lot 00:45:26.040 --> 00:45:31.840 of that. And, uh, we actually had Danny on, uh, uh, from Elevation a while back. We did a podcast 00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:36.620 talking about the, uh, the watch parties and a lot of that. So if you didn't hear that episode, 00:45:36.620 --> 00:45:42.060 listen to the audience, go back in and catch that. It's, it's a really, really good episode. And one of 00:45:42.060 --> 00:45:46.360 the things that I loved about Danny in that conversation, she had the entire time she said, 00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:50.380 yeah, we're doing that now. We'll probably change it in two months. We're just experimenting. We don't 00:45:50.380 --> 00:45:54.880 know what we're doing. And so, you know, what, what a, what a great challenge for all of us out there 00:45:54.880 --> 00:46:00.620 that, you know, may be, uh, afraid to experiment or, or may be overly cautious, but getting out there 00:46:00.620 --> 00:46:06.560 trying and, and seeing what God can do with it, which, which gets me to this and we can, uh, we can 00:46:06.560 --> 00:46:12.620 wrap on this. Okay. So there's a church out there that's interested in doing this. Yeah. Um, what's 00:46:12.620 --> 00:46:20.960 the first thing? So obviously it's a very rich idea getting from idea creation all the way to where 00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:25.920 you are. What's kind of the first thing that you would advise somebody, a church and organization 00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:31.940 interesting in doing this, what do they need to do? Well, um, first I would just get with leadership 00:46:31.940 --> 00:46:37.300 and make sure that there are stacked hands on what it's going to cost in the kind of, uh, effort it's 00:46:37.300 --> 00:46:44.680 going to take and know that your leadership's behind you 100% because, um, it's a, it's a front loaded 00:46:44.680 --> 00:46:50.840 experience. There's a lot of expense on the front end. There's a lot of effort, labor, um, man hours, 00:46:51.100 --> 00:46:55.700 equipment, all that stuff that comes out front. If you're going to try, if you're going to do it the 00:46:55.700 --> 00:47:02.020 way we're doing it now, I would also say if you want to try some of the things like Elevation 00:47:02.020 --> 00:47:06.740 Church and some of those where you're doing watch parties and things like that, very, very, very 00:47:06.740 --> 00:47:11.640 inexpensive and also really cool to be a part of because you get to go and just be right from the 00:47:11.640 --> 00:47:15.860 ground up. So I would just start with a conversation and say, Hey, we're, what model do you really want 00:47:15.860 --> 00:47:20.340 to go after? Because there's a, there's a few different ways you can, you can approach it. And I'm not 00:47:20.340 --> 00:47:24.820 saying that we're going to do this one every single time. We may go in and do some watch parties 00:47:24.820 --> 00:47:29.800 in some areas. Like if we decide to go to Orlando, I could see us surrounding the city with watch 00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:34.300 parties and let's see what happens and go up there and really go elevations in there right 00:47:34.300 --> 00:47:37.960 now. Then we've been watching closely and having close conversation with them. Like, Hey, how's 00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:42.360 Orlando going? What's it looking like? Um, because we know there, there cannot be enough churches 00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:49.140 in Orlando. Like you can put all you want there and there's plenty. Um, so that's the first 00:47:49.140 --> 00:47:53.860 thing I would just pray about it and really figure out what, which way God's leading you and what 00:47:53.860 --> 00:47:59.640 you guys really want to go after. Because, um, some of the people we've talked to and just shared some 00:47:59.640 --> 00:48:05.180 of the expenses and what it's been like, they're like, Oh, I had no idea. Like we had no idea. It took 00:48:05.180 --> 00:48:13.820 that much effort in like our pop-up days are 15 to 17 hour Sundays. Um, well, that's, that's six 00:48:13.820 --> 00:48:18.660 trailers worth of gear though. Right. And so that, that's like the, the one thing that I've always 00:48:18.660 --> 00:48:23.020 loved about, about you guys is you're, you're, you're over the top. Like, you don't, you're, 00:48:23.180 --> 00:48:28.320 you go whole hog and everything that, that you do, um, which, which coming from a live production 00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:35.380 guy, I totally respect. Uh, but to your point, there are certainly ways to, to throttle, to adjust 00:48:35.380 --> 00:48:38.780 there. And there's different ways to, you know, get, get to the finish line. 00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:45.180 I would also just say, be okay to fail. Like this is, you got to be okay to fail. Like you can't, 00:48:45.180 --> 00:48:49.000 you can't look at this and go into it and say, everything's going to be a home run. Everything's 00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:54.280 going to be a win. Cause it, you're going to be solely disappointed when you, when you have one 00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:57.620 that's struggling or you have one, you got to figure out, but that the cool thing about that 00:48:57.620 --> 00:49:03.480 is lean on friends. I emailed a friend today who, um, who's launched a lot more campuses than I have. 00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:07.660 And I just said, Hey, I kind of hit a little bit of a roadblock in this one city. What do you 00:49:07.660 --> 00:49:12.980 recommend? How do we, how do we, how do we get it over the hump where it's at? And so, um, waiting 00:49:12.980 --> 00:49:16.380 for them to respond back now and just give me some ideas, maybe something I haven't seen, 00:49:16.460 --> 00:49:20.000 but I have some tunnel vision that I'm not, that I'm not seeing something that I should see. 00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:27.280 So, um, I would just, I would just say, be, be okay, um, to fail, know the cost, know what it's 00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:31.260 going to take. And then, uh, man, I love having conversations with people and just tell them what 00:49:31.260 --> 00:49:36.240 we learned where our, what we learned our on-ramp was way too long. We took way too long to get to 00:49:36.240 --> 00:49:43.120 church. And then we've, we've given them church, um, not fast enough for too long. So we've, we've had, 00:49:43.500 --> 00:49:49.700 uh, we've, we have the on-ramp that, uh, you know, I'm requesting six weeks, six months, 00:49:49.700 --> 00:49:54.440 launch that that's what I'm proposing as we move forward. So six weeks to get in there and do a 00:49:54.440 --> 00:50:00.480 backyard barbecue, do a serve project, um, get in the community, give them a service. And six months 00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:05.180 later, we have to decide if we're going to launch or if we're going to move on to a new location. So, 00:50:05.180 --> 00:50:12.180 um, and see what model works for you. We, we live in a super, um, populated, fast paced area. So 00:50:12.180 --> 00:50:17.280 there's a lot of opportunity where we are. Um, we've, we've helped some churches out West that, 00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:22.600 um, they can only concentrate on one location at a time. And that's cool. Do that, like do what, 00:50:22.600 --> 00:50:26.460 and it was, it was just cool to watch God open doors for them and then report back and say, man, 00:50:26.460 --> 00:50:30.600 you won't believe what happened. I'm like, no, I'm going to believe it. Tell me. So I would say 00:50:30.600 --> 00:50:35.080 that's, that's probably the two biggest things. Just make sure leadership is all on board and know, 00:50:35.180 --> 00:50:42.220 know exactly what they're in for, what they're up against and, and then, uh, be okay to not have a 00:50:42.220 --> 00:50:47.680 home run everywhere you go. Awesome. Well, Brandon, man, listen, I do appreciate the time. Thanks for 00:50:47.680 --> 00:50:52.980 jumping on. I know, uh, life at Christ Fellowship West Palm Beach is, is hectic and, uh, I do 00:50:52.980 --> 00:50:57.920 appreciate this, uh, this time and this, this conversation. Any, uh, any last thoughts while we're 00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:03.260 landing the plane? Um, I would just say, go after it, man. If anybody has any questions, they can reach 00:51:03.260 --> 00:51:08.060 out to me. I can, I can, you have my information. You can share it if they want to get with you. And, 00:51:08.220 --> 00:51:12.500 uh, I'd love to have a conversation. If anybody's interested in doing it, we're still learning. We do 00:51:12.500 --> 00:51:16.480 not have this thing figured out. We are, we're growing, we're learning, we're building, we're 00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:21.780 working hard. Um, but we hope to, we really hope to give something, uh, be able to put something in 00:51:21.780 --> 00:51:25.100 church's hands and say, Hey, this is what we've learned. This is where we're at. Here's a playbook. 00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:32.680 Use it if you can and run with it. Because I mean, our goal is to go, go after it. Great commission. 00:51:34.060 --> 00:51:38.340 Love this. It's church. It's, it's rare when you come up with an idea that's like, 00:51:38.340 --> 00:51:44.320 I don't know anybody else that's not doing like a, a flavor, uh, even, even something similar. And this 00:51:44.320 --> 00:51:51.940 is a completely, uh, innovative idea where I don't think anybody is doing it at this level. And so 00:51:51.940 --> 00:51:57.280 Brandon, man, thanks for, for being brave. I don't know if that's the right word. Thanks for taking 00:51:57.280 --> 00:52:02.960 initiative and running with this and thank your leadership who, who backed and ran with it. And, 00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:08.140 uh, we will be watching, uh, from afar and seeing how God's, uh, God's blessing the ministry 00:52:08.140 --> 00:52:14.040 up there for me down there for pretty much else. Well, and I'd also, I'd also invite anybody who 00:52:14.040 --> 00:52:19.320 wants to know more about it to come to conference 2020, because we are, we're going to be having a 00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:25.180 ton of breakouts where you can have one-on-one conversations with me, with our multi-site, uh, 00:52:25.180 --> 00:52:30.180 director, people that have been hands-on the whole way through this and ask different questions from 00:52:30.180 --> 00:52:36.560 everything from finance to logistics, to team, to staffing, to structure, all of that, uh, worship 00:52:36.560 --> 00:52:41.060 gear, worship, you know, we can show you the gear list of what we bought, but we're going to be 00:52:41.060 --> 00:52:45.140 offering all that at breakouts at conferences. So I would highly encourage you come there. A lot of 00:52:45.140 --> 00:52:49.960 fun. People ask questions in the room that open up great conversations. And, um, I can't wait for 00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:52.140 conference to be here to share more of what, what we've learned. 00:52:53.040 --> 00:53:00.140 Yeah. So I did that conference 2018, I believe. And, uh, phenomenal, really, really good stuff. I, 00:53:00.140 --> 00:53:05.640 I thoroughly enjoyed it. And, um, you know, a lot in, a lot in the church online and production, 00:53:05.640 --> 00:53:10.820 which were the two circles I was involved in at the time. So, uh, but definitely we'll, um, 00:53:10.900 --> 00:53:15.460 over the next week, I'll try to find some, uh, link or something for the show notes, or if you've 00:53:15.460 --> 00:53:20.640 got something, uh, for the conference, we'll, we'll link to it, uh, and get it. So at least you can 00:53:20.640 --> 00:53:25.400 mark it down in your calendars, uh, but it's, it's well worth it. Well, Brandon, man, thanks for the 00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:30.560 time listening audience. Uh, man, thanks for, thanks for being here and listening. And once again, 00:53:30.560 --> 00:53:34.660 uh, hope it was worthwhile for you. We'll see you next time here on the church digital podcast. 00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:35.340 Y'all have a good day.