WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:26.680 All right. Hey, welcome to the Church Digital Podcast. We are doing a late night stream here with the podcast. Talking episode 350. We're hanging out. The music stopped on me for some reason. I hit my magic button and everything went quiet. That's really weird. But hey, we'll get it back here in a second. But we've got episode 350 doing a special recording here. After hours, so to speak, it's a little past my bedtime. 00:00:26.680 --> 00:00:53.740 I actually would be in pajamas right now. True confession. But I'm on camera and I am wearing still pants, not pajama bottoms. Just to make it clear. Yes, I wear jammy bottoms when I sleep at night. But hey, today we are doing a deep dive. We're doing an interview. I have been wanting to have this conversation for months. Every time I talk with these guys, I just get more and more surprised with what they're doing. 00:00:53.740 --> 00:01:07.680 What's going on. 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Last time, we had 1,100 people a day of from 85 countries. 00:02:54.240 --> 00:02:57.880 And we're excited to be off for four different summits this round. 00:02:57.960 --> 00:03:03.420 One on digital neighborhoods, culture and digital platforms, digital planting, digital discipleship. 00:03:03.420 --> 00:03:05.740 One on Christ-centered recovery and digital spaces. 00:03:06.280 --> 00:03:09.740 One on what's happening in Europe, European Digital Missionary Summit. 00:03:10.080 --> 00:03:12.680 And one on Gaming and Metaverse Digital Missionary Summit. 00:03:12.800 --> 00:03:17.800 More information is all at www.missionary.digital. 00:03:18.020 --> 00:03:20.180 And so, hey, let's just call that for announcements. 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:22.120 I mean, this is episode 350. 00:03:22.200 --> 00:03:24.100 I don't want to be in announcement mode all day. 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:27.460 I am excited to bring these guys on the screen. 00:03:27.700 --> 00:03:34.960 So, let me go ahead and hit the magic button and introduce to you some of the holy aces. 00:03:35.440 --> 00:03:38.380 But, hey, guys, welcome to the Church Digital Podcast. 00:03:38.580 --> 00:03:43.800 We're going to pretend like I actually know what I'm doing and haven't done that big of an idiot. 00:03:43.800 --> 00:03:46.500 I've been running Ecamm for well over a year. 00:03:46.580 --> 00:03:49.160 And that's the first time I've flubbed all over myself. 00:03:49.160 --> 00:03:50.840 So, hey, thanks for doing this. 00:03:50.900 --> 00:03:51.620 Dark Void. 00:03:52.020 --> 00:03:57.960 And then we've also got Huku and Aerospace Bricks. 00:03:58.200 --> 00:03:59.900 We've got Bricks on as well. 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:02.940 And we've got Journey Rocker coming along in a little bit. 00:04:03.020 --> 00:04:04.220 But, hey, guys, right up front. 00:04:04.640 --> 00:04:05.700 Why don't you say hey to the crowd? 00:04:07.100 --> 00:04:09.080 What is going on, Jeff? 00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:10.780 It is amazing to be here. 00:04:11.580 --> 00:04:14.140 Yeah, I'm so glad to have a conversation here. 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:21.640 I'm at Dark Void online, man, maybe close to a year ago, earlier in the school year. 00:04:22.260 --> 00:04:32.380 And just so excited to actually talk to you guys in VR chat a little bit and learn more about what the holy aces is. 00:04:32.900 --> 00:04:36.020 And I want to give a call out if you're watching on YouTube. 00:04:36.220 --> 00:04:39.040 By the way, if you're listening to the audio podcast, why? 00:04:39.260 --> 00:04:41.060 Like, this is going to be so much better in video. 00:04:41.520 --> 00:04:53.760 Swing over to thechurch.digital.com slash thechurchdigital.com and come check out, see the video to be able to see this and best experience. 00:04:54.320 --> 00:04:58.260 But we've got the retro Church Digital logo in the background behind them. 00:04:58.560 --> 00:04:58.980 I saw that. 00:04:59.040 --> 00:04:59.660 It made me smile. 00:04:59.780 --> 00:05:01.960 Barbara is cringing somewhere right now. 00:05:01.960 --> 00:05:06.140 But love, love the retro look right there with that, my friends. 00:05:06.220 --> 00:05:06.760 Thank you. 00:05:07.220 --> 00:05:08.140 Thank you for that. 00:05:08.340 --> 00:05:10.860 But I tell you what, Dark Void. 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:12.120 You guys are fine, man. 00:05:12.420 --> 00:05:12.860 Whatever. 00:05:14.140 --> 00:05:18.800 Honestly, I'm just glad there's not some, like, monkey clown thing jumping around in the background. 00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:24.020 Like, this is the best behaved I've ever seen anybody in VR chat right now. 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:25.940 So, like, kudos to you guys. 00:05:26.580 --> 00:05:29.440 But Dark Void, let's open up with you here. 00:05:29.700 --> 00:05:33.040 Man, tell us a little bit about yourself. 00:05:34.580 --> 00:05:37.160 Well, I'm 15. 00:05:37.840 --> 00:05:39.120 A lot of you have already heard. 00:05:39.200 --> 00:05:40.180 I'm really young doing this. 00:05:40.420 --> 00:05:43.660 And I've just, I've got a love for aviation, a love for Christ. 00:05:43.740 --> 00:05:54.940 I wanted to figure out a way how I can, you know, blend those together and form a way for people to really experience of what Christ is capable of and what He can do in your life. 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:57.780 And through that, we have everything that we've built. 00:05:58.340 --> 00:06:02.880 So, when we perform these air shows for these churches, it's a look at what Christ can do, you know. 00:06:02.940 --> 00:06:06.180 Look at what, look at the power He has if you put Him at the center of something. 00:06:07.020 --> 00:06:10.280 And so, that is really the goal I want to shoot for when doing these air shows. 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:23.380 Alongside, I also do this, if you are unable to attend an air show in the real world, whether that's financially, physically, mentally, financially, I said that already. 00:06:24.700 --> 00:06:35.540 It's just, it's an amazing way you can really get a grasp of what this is like in the real world and how amazing it is and how amazing it can be if you put Christ at the center of it. 00:06:36.220 --> 00:06:41.040 Yeah, there's a lot right there, and we're going to get plenty of time to dig into it. 00:06:41.180 --> 00:06:45.060 But let's just, let's talk about the purple cow in the room. 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:46.680 You're 15. 00:06:47.520 --> 00:06:53.140 And so, you started a virtual reality ministry at age 15. 00:06:55.040 --> 00:07:05.180 What, tell me, well, let's, I tell you what, tell me about some of your team, maybe introduce in a little detail the two gentlemen in here and maybe talk about some of the others that are on your team. 00:07:06.420 --> 00:07:06.720 Okay. 00:07:06.980 --> 00:07:10.760 I'll start with my number six opposing soloist here, Hoku in the blue. 00:07:11.100 --> 00:07:18.440 He's a phenomenal, he made the avatars, he is assistant in media, he is phenomenal in flying. 00:07:18.540 --> 00:07:20.380 He has been a best friend of mine for a very long time. 00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:22.120 He's been doing this for a really long time. 00:07:23.140 --> 00:07:25.560 Just next to him is Area Space Bricks. 00:07:25.760 --> 00:07:29.100 He is my right wingman, so in the formation you'll see him on my right wing. 00:07:29.540 --> 00:07:32.500 He has been here since the beginning and he is a phenomenal pilot. 00:07:33.020 --> 00:07:34.220 He is also our events coordinator. 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:37.560 So, Jeff, if you want to plan an event, this is your guy to go to. 00:07:38.200 --> 00:07:38.520 Awesome. 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:47.620 And so, you guys, I'm seeing the avatars in virtual reality, I'm seeing the, you know, it looks like some sort of a stage kind of view. 00:07:48.200 --> 00:07:53.620 In this VR chat world, I'm seeing the helicopter, I'm seeing the jet. 00:07:53.620 --> 00:08:01.160 So, you guys do virtual reality air shows in, like, in VR chat? 00:08:02.280 --> 00:08:02.540 Yes. 00:08:02.740 --> 00:08:05.740 Like, what is, describe that for me. 00:08:05.820 --> 00:08:10.160 Like, what is that, what does that experience look like, feel like? 00:08:10.240 --> 00:08:12.000 What are somebody seeing when they see that? 00:08:13.380 --> 00:08:19.500 Well, we took a very big hit on being able to do such formations, Christ inspired. 00:08:19.500 --> 00:08:30.780 You know, we could do crosses in the sky, we can do cross formations, and just a whole bunch of just, you know, exhilarating just performances that churches can come and see, honestly. 00:08:32.680 --> 00:08:34.020 Very interesting. 00:08:34.140 --> 00:08:35.280 Yeah, I've got that, Keegan. 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:36.120 Thanks for the feedback. 00:08:36.440 --> 00:08:42.880 We're doing some adjusting audio and video on the fly, and we had some technical difficulties at the beginning. 00:08:43.260 --> 00:08:44.900 Keegan, any more feedback you can give is great. 00:08:45.620 --> 00:08:48.760 Man, so you're, you took a hit. 00:08:49.100 --> 00:08:58.060 Like, and so, VR chat is, you know, I would consider this, forgive me, the red light district of virtual reality. 00:08:58.280 --> 00:09:00.500 It's, in many ways, it's the cesspool. 00:09:00.760 --> 00:09:14.740 In my book, I actually, I interviewed a woman who was raped in VR chat, and just, there's a lot of, what's his name, DJ Soto calls it the red light district of virtual reality. 00:09:15.780 --> 00:09:30.400 Talk to me a little bit about, talk to me a little bit about why VR chat, and maybe what some of the audience experiences, or what some of the feedback has been surrounding a Christian air show in VR chat. 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:44.640 VR chat is definitely, unfortunately, a very, how do I say this without, very, not bring your kid here kind of game. 00:09:46.920 --> 00:09:55.940 I've seen, it's definitely a game that you can do more than you should be able to, and the fact that it's 13 plus definitely scares me. 00:09:57.580 --> 00:09:59.440 I've seen a lot of crazy things on here. 00:10:01.060 --> 00:10:11.680 In terms of, you know, being a Christian community on VR chat, it's been very hard to find people outside of the Christian community and church community that, you know, genuinely respect us. 00:10:11.860 --> 00:10:15.640 You know, VR chat and Christianity, from what I've seen, does not mix very well. 00:10:17.640 --> 00:10:22.260 And I think that is very, that's very sad. 00:10:22.380 --> 00:10:26.820 And, you know, I think that Christianity should, you know, dwell in here. 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:27.420 Yeah. 00:10:27.680 --> 00:10:37.480 Now, so, you chose, well, first off, like, you're 15-year-old, you chose VR chat as the platform, right? 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:51.520 And so, why VR chat as opposed to, I don't know, Rec Room, you know, I know Altspace VR is not around anymore, you know, some of the other spatial, like, there's other platforms. 00:10:51.740 --> 00:11:02.000 Maybe they don't have the technical expertise, but, I mean, you're a kid in a world where, you know, like, do you ever, man, I got to be careful even in this space myself. 00:11:02.180 --> 00:11:03.920 How do you manage that? 00:11:06.060 --> 00:11:08.540 You just look at it and look past it, honestly. 00:11:08.720 --> 00:11:15.660 I tend not to, I tend not to pay attention to that too much in terms of why not other spaces. 00:11:16.660 --> 00:11:18.580 If it wasn't for VR chat, I wouldn't be here right now. 00:11:19.200 --> 00:11:23.100 My first church I found digitally wasn't VR chat. 00:11:24.340 --> 00:11:29.040 I think that is what really pushed me into doing all this. 00:11:29.180 --> 00:11:33.580 So, if it wasn't for VR chat, if I never pressed that install button on VR chat, I wouldn't, I probably wouldn't be here right now. 00:11:33.940 --> 00:11:34.080 Yeah. 00:11:34.180 --> 00:11:36.380 What church was that in VR chat, do you mind me asking? 00:11:36.720 --> 00:11:37.920 Or, yeah, your first church? 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:40.880 Highway to Victory, led by Pastor Lou and Pastor David. 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:41.620 Okay. 00:11:41.860 --> 00:11:42.680 Very, very cool. 00:11:43.640 --> 00:11:44.160 All right. 00:11:44.220 --> 00:11:46.880 So, hey, so you're leading. 00:11:47.940 --> 00:11:51.280 I mean, you've got a couple guys on the screen here. 00:11:51.700 --> 00:11:55.380 There's some others that are going to be joining us hopefully here in a little bit. 00:11:55.980 --> 00:12:04.220 How many volunteers, how many people are involved directly in the ministry helping Holy Aces happen? 00:12:04.480 --> 00:12:24.960 We have about 17 or 18 members that comprises of pilots, prayer study group leader, Bible study leader, moderators, you know, all these people just looking forward and helping spread the word of God, you know, in a unique way such as we have done here. 00:12:26.660 --> 00:12:28.480 That's, I mean, that's, that's surprising. 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:33.040 So as a, as a high, as a 15 year old in America, what is that? 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:34.080 A 10th grader? 00:12:35.160 --> 00:12:37.980 You're starting your 10th grade of 10, you're starting 10th grade this year? 00:12:39.340 --> 00:12:39.820 I am. 00:12:40.160 --> 00:12:40.480 Okay. 00:12:40.780 --> 00:12:46.760 Uh, so as a 10th grader, you've, you've recruited and developed 18 people to be part of this ministry. 00:12:46.880 --> 00:12:47.800 Are they all kids? 00:12:49.700 --> 00:12:52.360 Um, most of them are adults. 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:54.060 Uh, I think about three of them are minors. 00:12:54.640 --> 00:12:55.120 Wow. 00:12:55.600 --> 00:13:00.960 So, um, you, you guys, I'm getting, I'm getting a heads up on the, on the VR. 00:13:01.860 --> 00:13:05.940 Um, so you, you've got a, you've, you're working with adults. 00:13:05.940 --> 00:13:06.960 That, that's incredible. 00:13:07.620 --> 00:13:09.340 Um, where do you find these people? 00:13:11.140 --> 00:13:11.540 Churches. 00:13:11.760 --> 00:13:17.480 Honestly, um, I found a lot of these people from other Christian communities, except for 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:22.500 this guy to my left, I found him in another aviation community, uh, called the Black Aces. 00:13:23.200 --> 00:13:23.600 Interesting. 00:13:23.620 --> 00:13:27.680 They are also a formation demo team that I found him there and I recruited him. 00:13:27.760 --> 00:13:28.820 He seemed really interested in me. 00:13:28.880 --> 00:13:29.360 He's been here. 00:13:29.880 --> 00:13:30.160 All right. 00:13:30.420 --> 00:13:32.180 Is that aerospace? 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:34.180 Yes, that is. 00:13:34.280 --> 00:13:34.720 All right. 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:37.460 So aerospace, man, tell, tell, tell me your story. 00:13:37.580 --> 00:13:39.040 So you, so you're with Black Aces. 00:13:39.480 --> 00:13:40.940 How did you end up here with Holy Aces? 00:13:42.300 --> 00:13:48.960 Well, I mean, it's been a interesting path because I've always wanted to do formation flying 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:52.580 as a kid, seeing the Blue Angels fly and seeing the videos of the Thunderbirds. 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:54.320 It was incredible. 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:56.820 And knowing that was my passion. 00:13:57.500 --> 00:14:02.960 And I thought the easiest way of doing that with the right people is VR track. 00:14:03.180 --> 00:14:07.340 Anybody can buy a headset, get the free game and download it. 00:14:07.420 --> 00:14:07.840 And you're here. 00:14:08.480 --> 00:14:10.900 Just no extra cost when necessary. 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:16.680 And I mean, I've originally flew with some teams. 00:14:16.860 --> 00:14:18.740 I think one's called Frecce, Trecolori. 00:14:18.880 --> 00:14:20.660 I know that's the Italian team. 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:26.940 Times didn't match up, but I really wanted to do formation flying in some way. 00:14:27.280 --> 00:14:32.300 If it was Christian or not, I just wanted to do formation flying because I was, I just loved 00:14:32.300 --> 00:14:34.280 seeing that and wanted to be a part of that. 00:14:34.960 --> 00:14:36.440 And it just never worked out. 00:14:36.580 --> 00:14:40.660 But I believe God put a path into me where it was just that one night. 00:14:40.740 --> 00:14:41.540 I was like, you know what? 00:14:42.060 --> 00:14:43.940 I want to go fly around and see how it is. 00:14:44.020 --> 00:14:48.140 And I flew around in the Black Aces world just to see the different planes. 00:14:48.140 --> 00:14:53.060 And all of a sudden, Dark Void appeared towards the end when I was about to hop off. 00:14:53.180 --> 00:14:59.160 And he saw I was flying and he was asking around people to be a part of the team called 00:14:59.160 --> 00:14:59.720 the Holy Aces. 00:15:00.040 --> 00:15:01.280 And I said, you know what? 00:15:01.660 --> 00:15:03.620 I really want to do it. 00:15:03.700 --> 00:15:06.620 I want to commit to a formation flight team. 00:15:06.800 --> 00:15:08.140 I really want to show what I can do. 00:15:08.520 --> 00:15:12.220 And especially being a Christian myself, going to churches in real life. 00:15:12.340 --> 00:15:16.540 I mean, I don't go to the VR ministry here in VR chat. 00:15:16.540 --> 00:15:17.880 I do go to church. 00:15:18.200 --> 00:15:19.660 I have a local church nearby. 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:25.540 But yeah, when he told me about the Holy Aces and especially being a Christian team, 00:15:25.720 --> 00:15:29.640 I hopped on it and I've stuck with it ever since. 00:15:29.820 --> 00:15:32.740 It's been tough, but I mean, what isn't? 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:34.700 It's been great. 00:15:35.740 --> 00:15:39.540 How long have Dark Void, just in general, how long have you guys been doing this? 00:15:41.100 --> 00:15:45.180 I started the Holy Aces about this time last year. 00:15:45.180 --> 00:15:54.040 Somewhere in early summer, I started doing the Holy Aces somewhere in the early summer. 00:15:56.180 --> 00:15:58.720 And I really kicked off the team somewhere around there. 00:15:58.940 --> 00:15:59.460 Early July. 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:00.400 Okay. 00:16:00.660 --> 00:16:00.940 Yeah. 00:16:01.020 --> 00:16:01.280 Sorry. 00:16:01.520 --> 00:16:04.620 So it's been about a year, almost, give or take? 00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:06.740 Almost, give or take a year. 00:16:06.860 --> 00:16:07.000 Yeah. 00:16:07.160 --> 00:16:07.540 Wow. 00:16:07.660 --> 00:16:08.020 Okay. 00:16:08.740 --> 00:16:14.580 And then we also got Hoku on the screen as well in the blue. 00:16:16.020 --> 00:16:17.320 Hoku, what's your story, man? 00:16:17.400 --> 00:16:18.900 By the way, your arm looks like it's broken. 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:19.540 You feeling okay? 00:16:19.700 --> 00:16:20.380 No, I'm kidding. 00:16:20.760 --> 00:16:21.080 Yeah. 00:16:21.180 --> 00:16:21.540 It's all right. 00:16:21.580 --> 00:16:26.260 I just have my controller sat down, but all right. 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:35.420 So really like growing up, I had like an interest in like paper airplanes and I wanted to be a pilot when I grew up. 00:16:35.920 --> 00:16:44.600 Uh, I wanted to like drive around, um, those propeller powered airplanes and like take people for rides and stuff. 00:16:44.780 --> 00:16:53.720 Um, as a little kid, you know, as one of those little kid dreams and several years down the road, kind of lost the interest and, um, eventually gotten to VR chat. 00:16:54.360 --> 00:17:04.340 And, um, I got into church ministries and I really started connecting with people and I really got like, uh, that interest back of like wanting to be a pilot. 00:17:04.340 --> 00:17:08.360 So I would go around and like, uh, these worlds, I would have planes in it. 00:17:08.420 --> 00:17:11.680 I would just drive around by myself, leave between buildings. 00:17:11.840 --> 00:17:13.420 I just try to get good at it. 00:17:13.420 --> 00:17:16.780 And then I think one day I was just joining one of the church events. 00:17:16.880 --> 00:17:20.900 I don't remember what church it was, but, uh, dark void happened to be there. 00:17:21.080 --> 00:17:24.340 And, um, I started talking to him. 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:25.920 I don't know exactly how it went. 00:17:26.140 --> 00:17:30.280 Um, but he asked me if I was interested in, in flying jets. 00:17:30.280 --> 00:17:32.700 And I was like, I don't know. 00:17:32.760 --> 00:17:40.000 It's like, I don't know if I want to be a part of like a team like that because I was just like very introverted, but I feel like the Lord had called me. 00:17:40.020 --> 00:17:41.680 It was just like, this is going to be great. 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:45.040 You're going to be a part of something amazing go for it. 00:17:45.040 --> 00:17:59.940 And so, um, I joined him up and, uh, he started practicing me up and, um, he really liked how I performed and he made me, uh, number six, uh, posing solace. 00:17:59.940 --> 00:18:06.680 And I've just been continually developing my skill and I drew, I truly do have like a huge passion for this. 00:18:06.760 --> 00:18:15.680 Like, it's really awesome being up in the air, performing these things, uh, just like really like introducing Christ in a way you wouldn't expect. 00:18:16.300 --> 00:18:16.740 Let's do this. 00:18:16.780 --> 00:18:18.140 Zuko, welcome to the show. 00:18:18.320 --> 00:18:24.960 Um, Hey, I tell you what, Zuko, uh, man, why don't you, let's put you on the spot since you just, you know, came in here. 00:18:25.280 --> 00:18:26.660 Tell us a little bit about yourself. 00:18:28.660 --> 00:18:32.660 Tell us a little bit about yourself in short, cause I've had a conversation with you before. 00:18:32.660 --> 00:18:35.460 In short, tell me a little bit about yourself. 00:18:36.220 --> 00:18:36.660 Absolutely. 00:18:36.980 --> 00:18:38.680 Uh, Jeff, thank you so much for having me here. 00:18:38.780 --> 00:18:39.700 Uh, my name is Zuko. 00:18:39.860 --> 00:18:43.060 Um, I am the co-owner here for the Holy Aces. 00:18:43.360 --> 00:18:50.820 Uh, it's such an honor and privilege to be here for the church digital and be a part of such an incredible, uh, aviation team here on VR. 00:18:51.300 --> 00:19:00.520 Uh, I met Dark Void, um, you know, uh, a little bit over about a year now, uh, in an aviation instance and he was telling me a little bit about his vision for the team. 00:19:00.760 --> 00:19:08.220 And I fell in love with the idea so much that, you know, I, I found it in my heart that I wanted to do nothing more than to make this team a humongous success. 00:19:08.220 --> 00:19:20.140 And I mean, I never would have thought, and I'm sure he'd be the first to tell you, I never thought that we'd be in our own brand new instance with our own customized jets, uh, all of our church supporters and followers. 00:19:20.560 --> 00:19:24.260 And, uh, having you as a big support, Jeff, it's, it's a blessing to have you. 00:19:24.600 --> 00:19:25.800 Here's what I want to know. 00:19:25.840 --> 00:19:30.160 This is the question I was asking, like, okay, so, you know, Dark Void's a 10th grader. 00:19:30.260 --> 00:19:33.240 He's like at whatever high school, nine to five. 00:19:33.700 --> 00:19:36.840 Um, what do you guys actually do like for a living? 00:19:36.840 --> 00:19:38.700 The rest of you on the screen. 00:19:39.400 --> 00:19:40.720 Um, yeah. 00:19:40.840 --> 00:19:43.940 So, you know, let's, let's start with, uh, let's start with, uh, bricks. 00:19:44.040 --> 00:19:44.600 What do you do, man? 00:19:45.740 --> 00:19:50.280 Well, I mean, I probably not to brag, but I probably, 00:19:50.320 --> 00:19:55.760 you may have the most interesting job and probably the most prevalent job that you see behind these things. 00:19:56.300 --> 00:19:59.000 I am a C-130 structural engineer. 00:19:59.260 --> 00:20:06.060 I actually help keep those C-130s that you see flying and out in the world up in the air. 00:20:06.060 --> 00:20:14.700 We make sure that they're safe and we make sure that our, our army and whoever needs a C-130 is there and ready to go and safe to fly. 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:15.760 So that's what I do. 00:20:16.860 --> 00:20:17.340 Wow. 00:20:17.540 --> 00:20:26.020 So like you, you actually work in the aviation field, uh, for, for the, for the military, for the, for the, who, who makes the C-130s? 00:20:26.100 --> 00:20:26.380 Forgive me. 00:20:26.420 --> 00:20:27.700 Is that Boeing or is that? 00:20:28.980 --> 00:20:32.740 That is the people that make C-130s is, uh, Lockheed Martin. 00:20:33.080 --> 00:20:33.540 Lockheed Martin. 00:20:33.540 --> 00:20:41.720 You know, it's interesting to think, I mean, we recently back in August, we had our 70th anniversary of the C-130 flying. 00:20:42.200 --> 00:20:45.660 I mean, the first flight of the C-130 was back in 1954. 00:20:46.520 --> 00:20:46.840 Wow. 00:20:46.920 --> 00:20:49.080 This baby has been flying and it's capable. 00:20:50.580 --> 00:20:51.880 Very, that's very cool. 00:20:51.980 --> 00:20:54.400 I've got my, my brother-in-law works for Lockheed. 00:20:54.600 --> 00:20:59.480 One of my, one of my close friends works for, for Lockheed, uh, at different, different cities. 00:20:59.480 --> 00:21:00.580 And so welcome. 00:21:00.760 --> 00:21:01.240 Congratulations. 00:21:01.240 --> 00:21:04.440 Thank you for, you know, the work that you're, you're doing for the, for the country. 00:21:04.800 --> 00:21:05.400 Uh, Huku. 00:21:05.540 --> 00:21:05.820 Of course. 00:21:05.920 --> 00:21:06.240 Hoku. 00:21:06.880 --> 00:21:10.980 Uh, yeah, you're probably not going to be able to top the, the C-130 engineer over here. 00:21:10.980 --> 00:21:11.980 So what's your story? 00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:13.460 What do you, what do you do nine to five? 00:21:16.060 --> 00:21:22.720 Um, well, currently I am, uh, in the process of looking for a job still after three years. 00:21:24.300 --> 00:21:33.660 Um, no, it seems like, um, I, uh, oh my goodness, technical difficulties. 00:21:33.780 --> 00:21:34.220 My apologies. 00:21:34.760 --> 00:21:38.300 Um, my nine to five is really mostly at home. 00:21:38.300 --> 00:21:42.140 I do a lot of our background technical things for the team. 00:21:42.720 --> 00:21:44.800 Mostly I, I really just do what I can. 00:21:45.600 --> 00:21:49.200 Um, most of the time I like working on avatars. 00:21:49.320 --> 00:21:50.620 I'm a huge avatar developer. 00:21:51.540 --> 00:21:54.660 Um, not like huge, but like I'm huge on it. 00:21:55.140 --> 00:21:56.140 Uh, I love making it. 00:21:57.520 --> 00:21:59.980 Do, do you do, I mean, do you do world building? 00:22:00.120 --> 00:22:03.220 Like did you, how much of, of what I'm seeing on the screen right now, did you do? 00:22:04.800 --> 00:22:06.460 Uh, no, I did not make the world. 00:22:06.840 --> 00:22:09.480 Um, one of our other pilots actually have done that. 00:22:09.760 --> 00:22:12.200 Um, I've just made our avatars here. 00:22:12.920 --> 00:22:13.320 Interesting. 00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:14.880 Uh, very cool. 00:22:15.080 --> 00:22:18.740 Um, I mean, listen, building, uh, what, what tools do you use? 00:22:18.780 --> 00:22:21.060 What tool sets do you use to, to create your avatars? 00:22:21.060 --> 00:22:23.220 Uh, I use, uh, Unity. 00:22:24.980 --> 00:22:26.460 So you're, you're learning Unity. 00:22:26.600 --> 00:22:28.780 That's, that's not a small skillset, bro. 00:22:28.860 --> 00:22:31.980 That's, that takes a lot of effort and talent to learn. 00:22:32.040 --> 00:22:33.320 How long you've been working in Unity? 00:22:34.320 --> 00:22:35.480 Uh, a little over a year. 00:22:36.160 --> 00:22:36.520 Okay. 00:22:36.580 --> 00:22:42.640 I think I started around this time actually, uh, a little after I joined the team, I started 00:22:42.640 --> 00:22:45.380 working on avatars and I've been at it nonstop. 00:22:45.380 --> 00:22:48.840 I have probably a thousand to a thousand, five hundred hours in Unity. 00:22:49.520 --> 00:22:49.880 Wow. 00:22:50.440 --> 00:22:53.440 But, uh, yeah, I'm, uh, doing that. 00:22:53.560 --> 00:23:00.540 Um, I've been trying to do some freelancing, uh, for like, um, photography, art. 00:23:00.800 --> 00:23:07.420 Uh, I took a, uh, course, uh, at a trade school, uh, for a year and it's called multimedia. 00:23:08.420 --> 00:23:13.740 And there you do, you work with Photoshop, you work with cameras, editing, broadcasting, 00:23:14.000 --> 00:23:15.480 journalism, all that stuff. 00:23:15.620 --> 00:23:17.840 And I really want to work in the entertainment industry. 00:23:18.180 --> 00:23:18.660 Okay. 00:23:18.700 --> 00:23:21.420 I really think that would be an amazing thing because. 00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:27.160 Well, I mean, Unity in itself is, is a, is an awesome step towards that, man. 00:23:27.400 --> 00:23:32.380 Even if you're, you're looking at combining some of the AVL that you're describing with, 00:23:32.380 --> 00:23:38.220 um, um, with, uh, game, uh, dev, like you can do within Unity. 00:23:38.220 --> 00:23:41.320 Uh, man, that's a, that's a unique skillset. 00:23:41.420 --> 00:23:44.280 Don't, uh, don't, uh, sell short what you're already doing. 00:23:44.700 --> 00:23:48.680 Uh, that's, that sounds very, uh, very interesting for you, man. 00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:49.700 Yeah. 00:23:49.780 --> 00:23:50.360 Hang in there. 00:23:50.420 --> 00:23:53.080 Listen, I have a slow start, but I'm getting there. 00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:55.480 I hopefully like, this is the career path I want. 00:23:55.540 --> 00:23:57.480 I want to, I want to work in entertainment. 00:23:58.000 --> 00:23:59.540 I love that. 00:23:59.540 --> 00:24:05.760 The, uh, there is, there's a lot of opportunities, uh, man, in that don't, uh, don't be discouraged. 00:24:05.760 --> 00:24:10.980 I mean, I'll even tell you at, at a personal level, um, you know, I know what it's like 00:24:10.980 --> 00:24:16.000 to be in between gigs for, uh, uh, for a short and a long period of time as, as well. 00:24:16.000 --> 00:24:20.720 So, um, you know, don't, don't lose faith and, and, and keep working hard while you're 00:24:20.720 --> 00:24:21.380 on that path. 00:24:22.140 --> 00:24:25.780 Um, and, and, uh, journey rocker, what do you, what do you do, man? 00:24:25.840 --> 00:24:26.900 What's, what's your nine to five? 00:24:27.020 --> 00:24:27.620 Uh, Zuku. 00:24:28.320 --> 00:24:29.480 Oh my, oh my God. 00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:35.100 Um, I have a lot of traits, uh, from being a full-time musician, uh, as a drummer, I play 00:24:35.100 --> 00:24:40.180 for a lot of cover bands here, uh, that are in New York and then tri-state area. 00:24:40.280 --> 00:24:42.680 I've been doing that for so many years of my life now. 00:24:42.940 --> 00:24:44.620 Uh, I'm also a DJ. 00:24:44.620 --> 00:24:49.040 I have my own DJ company that I run, uh, as a karaoke DJ. 00:24:49.300 --> 00:24:50.580 So it's a lot, that's a lot of fun. 00:24:51.060 --> 00:24:56.620 Uh, I'm actually a game show host in IRL as well as on VR chat, uh, which is a great, 00:24:56.760 --> 00:25:01.660 uh, and I also work in a restaurant, uh, which is absolutely, uh, you know, just a joy. 00:25:01.760 --> 00:25:07.100 I love the people that I work with and, uh, you know, uh, on the side, uh, in the summertime, 00:25:07.100 --> 00:25:12.140 I get to actually take part in the, uh, Jones Beach air shows here on Long Island. 00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:17.780 Uh, I get to participate and meet and network with a lot of the aviation teams, uh, which 00:25:17.780 --> 00:25:23.600 is part of the reason why we have a, uh, Blue Angels, uh, tribute here, uh, which I'll get 00:25:23.600 --> 00:25:24.920 into that, uh, much later on. 00:25:24.980 --> 00:25:27.580 I'm sure that will be something that will be brought up, but I don't want to get too much 00:25:27.580 --> 00:25:28.040 into that. 00:25:28.400 --> 00:25:32.920 Uh, but, you know, working at the, um, airports, a lot of fun and getting a chance to meet the 00:25:32.920 --> 00:25:34.260 actual aviation teams. 00:25:34.780 --> 00:25:36.040 Uh, it's great. 00:25:36.140 --> 00:25:38.840 Uh, and you know, when you get to be a pilot on here, it's even better. 00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:40.600 Beautiful. 00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:44.620 So what is the training like? 00:25:44.820 --> 00:25:49.160 I tell you all, you know what I want to do here, uh, Dark Void, if it's okay, I'd love 00:25:49.160 --> 00:25:55.720 to watch one round of the, the, the, the first video I clip I have, the first video clip I 00:25:55.720 --> 00:25:59.140 have for you guys where it's not the, it's not the Blue Angels one. 00:25:59.200 --> 00:25:59.840 It's the other one. 00:26:00.040 --> 00:26:03.940 Like, can, can we actually, is it okay if I show that right now, uh, on the screen? 00:26:04.020 --> 00:26:04.620 Perfectly fine. 00:26:05.060 --> 00:26:05.720 Okay, great. 00:26:05.840 --> 00:26:10.780 So here, I'm going to push a couple of magic buttons and, um, let's, uh, let's go ahead 00:26:10.780 --> 00:26:14.440 and, uh, watch, uh, this first clip. 00:26:20.080 --> 00:26:24.080 And let me see, I'm not sure that can be heard right now. 00:26:24.120 --> 00:26:25.220 I can probably fix that. 00:26:25.220 --> 00:26:32.400 I'm American made, but like Chevrolet, my mama taught me wrong some right. 00:26:33.460 --> 00:26:39.800 I was born in the South, sometimes I have a big mouth when I see something that I don't 00:26:39.800 --> 00:26:40.380 like. 00:26:41.380 --> 00:26:42.580 I gotta say it. 00:26:45.420 --> 00:26:52.820 We've been driving this road for a month, a long time, paying no mind to the signs. 00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:57.740 Well, this neighborhood's changed, it's all been rearranged. 00:26:58.160 --> 00:27:00.740 We left that team somewhere behind. 00:27:02.740 --> 00:27:22.400 All right, let me ask, hopefully, can you guys hear me okay right now? 00:27:22.460 --> 00:27:23.840 Did I turn the music down enough for you? 00:27:24.420 --> 00:27:24.980 It's all good. 00:27:25.460 --> 00:27:26.680 All right, great. 00:27:27.140 --> 00:27:31.080 Um, what is like, what's actually happening right now? 00:27:31.080 --> 00:27:32.760 I'm seeing four jets in the sky. 00:27:33.460 --> 00:27:34.440 Oh, what is this? 00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:36.600 What, what are you doing on your side? 00:27:36.660 --> 00:27:37.220 Who's flying? 00:27:37.320 --> 00:27:38.420 Is anybody flying in this? 00:27:38.780 --> 00:27:40.480 And what does that actually look like? 00:27:41.060 --> 00:27:44.660 The ones you are seeing flying right now is me and Aerospace. 00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:48.040 Those are the only two that are here right now that you can actually see in the air. 00:27:48.140 --> 00:27:50.960 So I am the one leading that formation. 00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:52.500 That is called the Diamond Formation. 00:27:52.580 --> 00:27:57.460 It was the signature formation of many, many, many flight demonstrations here in VRJ. 00:27:57.460 --> 00:27:58.480 And in the real world. 00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:01.100 I am the one leading that formation. 00:28:01.240 --> 00:28:02.560 You can see me in the very front. 00:28:03.540 --> 00:28:05.400 Aerospace is on my right wing. 00:28:05.800 --> 00:28:08.200 So you can see him on the right side of the formation. 00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:09.260 He is on my right wing. 00:28:09.340 --> 00:28:10.040 He's a very good pilot. 00:28:10.580 --> 00:28:12.540 And right now we're doing the double farvel. 00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:13.560 We're coming in from the right. 00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:17.580 Me and the number four position slot pilot are both inverted. 00:28:18.100 --> 00:28:19.260 And we're passing by center point. 00:28:21.260 --> 00:28:23.240 And we are going to break. 00:28:28.540 --> 00:28:29.180 So. 00:28:30.460 --> 00:28:32.400 The slot pilot is Tony Maloney. 00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:35.000 And our left wing is Tholome Hill. 00:28:35.380 --> 00:28:36.640 So those are the two pilots. 00:28:36.740 --> 00:28:38.040 They're amazing as well. 00:28:39.300 --> 00:28:39.760 Yeah. 00:28:39.760 --> 00:28:49.320 How does one discover they have the skill to fly a virtual reality plane this way? 00:28:49.980 --> 00:28:57.120 Like, are you guys like experts at Microsoft Flight Simulator or like Nintendo 64? 00:28:57.580 --> 00:28:59.220 How did you get to this point? 00:29:00.020 --> 00:29:03.940 The N64, that's way out of second of our final speed. 00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:05.220 Well, maybe with you. 00:29:06.140 --> 00:29:07.940 Sorry, N64 is my speed. 00:29:08.320 --> 00:29:09.020 Help me here. 00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:16.420 Well, I mean, on my side, it's always just been a passion for aviation. 00:29:16.760 --> 00:29:19.640 Anybody that you see on the video, anybody can do it. 00:29:20.100 --> 00:29:25.300 The control schemes on VRChat are fairly simplistic compared to, obviously, a real F-18. 00:29:26.140 --> 00:29:28.220 But it's just dedication. 00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:29.360 It's dedication. 00:29:29.540 --> 00:29:30.320 That's all it is. 00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:31.080 It's repetition. 00:29:31.700 --> 00:29:32.940 Flying in these formations. 00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:35.980 Knowing what's happening next to where you can just close your eyes. 00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:37.380 Feel the air. 00:29:37.740 --> 00:29:39.620 Obviously, this is VR, so you can't feel the air. 00:29:39.880 --> 00:29:42.660 But just having that dedication. 00:29:42.860 --> 00:29:44.160 I mean, this is awesome right here. 00:29:44.260 --> 00:29:47.660 Nebula, you want to take over and tell them what this is? 00:29:47.860 --> 00:29:49.560 This is the Diamond 360. 00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:51.280 This is our closest formation. 00:29:51.760 --> 00:29:53.280 You see it as a path in the crowd. 00:29:53.580 --> 00:29:57.740 That is 18 real-life inches of separation between the four aircraft. 00:29:58.500 --> 00:30:07.700 So, if you actually collided, we would see a crash or something like that if pixels touched? 00:30:09.460 --> 00:30:11.520 Yes, you wouldn't see an explosion. 00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:13.780 We have it set differently. 00:30:13.780 --> 00:30:16.740 One of us would just fall drastically out of formation. 00:30:17.100 --> 00:30:17.920 That's what would happen. 00:30:18.500 --> 00:30:18.700 Okay. 00:30:19.380 --> 00:30:19.820 Yeah. 00:30:20.760 --> 00:30:21.200 Interesting. 00:30:21.340 --> 00:30:30.100 Well, obviously, with VRChat, with the latency and everything, it's on different internet speeds, it's a little bit more tricky, but also, it's more fun. 00:30:30.220 --> 00:30:31.020 It's more of a challenge. 00:30:31.520 --> 00:30:36.120 It's where you're like, okay, boss may fall back from my side or somewhere. 00:30:36.260 --> 00:30:40.880 You just got to hold your position and know where you are going and confident in it. 00:30:42.100 --> 00:30:42.660 All right. 00:30:42.660 --> 00:30:44.820 So, you said you had six pilots, right? 00:30:45.340 --> 00:30:47.540 And so, we've got the four of you on here. 00:30:47.800 --> 00:30:55.700 I know I met one of them the other day who was like a Harvard student, like a master's at Harvard or something. 00:30:56.800 --> 00:30:59.060 Who else are the pilots that you currently have? 00:31:00.080 --> 00:31:02.640 So, I am the boss, call sign Nambuli. 00:31:02.740 --> 00:31:03.760 Like I said, I'm the one in the front. 00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:04.760 This is my right wing. 00:31:05.120 --> 00:31:07.260 Thala Mule, who is not here, is my left wing. 00:31:07.260 --> 00:31:11.220 Tony Maloney, who is my slot pilot, who is under the formation, is not here. 00:31:11.760 --> 00:31:14.980 This is six, the other soloist that you have not met. 00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:19.800 This is the other, this ends the one, two, three, four, five, six of the pilots. 00:31:20.140 --> 00:31:20.500 Gotcha. 00:31:21.140 --> 00:31:22.040 You're talking to him. 00:31:22.600 --> 00:31:23.920 And this is the narrator. 00:31:24.380 --> 00:31:25.760 Zuko actually does the narration. 00:31:26.500 --> 00:31:31.940 He does all the techie stuff with the narration, which I don't know how to do. 00:31:34.080 --> 00:31:48.080 So, and I also fly media, so we'll actually have somebody in the back of my jet, which is a two-seater, and we will fly along the side of the formation, and we'll get media shots, photos, video from up in the air. 00:31:48.740 --> 00:31:59.800 And, you know, we fly along the right side of the diamond formation, which, you know, if you want to see right now, we'll be literally flying a good distance away, but flying along the right side of that formation. 00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:02.820 Very, very cool. 00:32:03.340 --> 00:32:06.560 And it's taken this core team of pilots. 00:32:07.320 --> 00:32:10.860 How long have you all been, yeah, I'm seeing that, that break. 00:32:11.080 --> 00:32:14.340 How long have you all been flying together? 00:32:17.020 --> 00:32:18.680 About the same time this team has existed. 00:32:19.120 --> 00:32:24.800 A lot of, actually, all of these people you see in front of us, in front of you, have been here since day one. 00:32:25.180 --> 00:32:27.780 So, about a year in total of the time. 00:32:27.820 --> 00:32:28.680 About a year. We've been flying together. 00:32:29.020 --> 00:32:31.760 I've been flying in VR chat for about three years. 00:32:32.860 --> 00:32:33.220 Okay. 00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:36.680 Did any of you have previous experience? 00:32:36.820 --> 00:32:41.740 Well, one of you was with Black Aces, as I recall. 00:32:41.880 --> 00:32:44.620 Was there any other experience with... 00:32:44.620 --> 00:32:49.080 I was a part of the VR chat recreational Blue Angels. 00:32:49.500 --> 00:32:53.120 So, that is just a Blue Angel version in VR chat. 00:32:53.700 --> 00:32:55.080 You just do the same maneuvers. 00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:56.980 Zuko was a part of the same team. 00:32:57.980 --> 00:33:00.780 Hoku, this is his first ever flight demonstration team he's been on. 00:33:01.580 --> 00:33:02.280 Wow, okay. 00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:06.340 I probably have the least experience out of all of us, but I picked up quickly, I think. 00:33:07.660 --> 00:33:08.020 Sure. 00:33:08.220 --> 00:33:09.020 You certainly have. 00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:09.600 Absolutely. 00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:14.820 Do, and let me ask, let me do something here, sorry. 00:33:14.820 --> 00:33:22.280 But, Bricks, do you have actual flight experience with your team? 00:33:22.380 --> 00:33:23.760 Oh, my gosh, I'm way out of the frame here. 00:33:23.840 --> 00:33:25.640 Sorry, I'm trying to figure out where I'm supposed to look. 00:33:26.040 --> 00:33:29.200 Bricks, do you actually have experience flying with your team? 00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:37.140 Flying in real life or are you just like a servicing engineering beyond? 00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:41.020 Currently, I'm just an engineer. 00:33:41.020 --> 00:33:45.360 I just write the procedures of how to fix the C-130s. 00:33:45.740 --> 00:33:48.720 Personally, I've never flown a real aircraft. 00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:53.840 Obviously, I've flown in VR chat, VTOL VR, Microsoft Flight Simulator. 00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:59.700 I've always had that passion of flying, but I don't have the time nor the money to do that. 00:33:59.700 --> 00:34:06.160 But I have gone to an amazing aviation school when I got my bachelor's degree in aerospace engineering. 00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:12.040 And that was down in Florida at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. 00:34:12.120 --> 00:34:12.380 Sure. 00:34:12.620 --> 00:34:15.480 To all my eagles out there, if anyone's listening. 00:34:15.680 --> 00:34:22.340 But, yeah, I love that school and seeing those Cessnas, those Diamond Skyhawks, and even the Thunderbirds. 00:34:22.420 --> 00:34:24.300 Thunderbirds coming down for the Daytona 500. 00:34:25.460 --> 00:34:31.460 I mean, just seeing them all the time and having that flight, just seeing it was amazing. 00:34:31.580 --> 00:34:33.880 But personally, I've never flown once. 00:34:34.140 --> 00:34:34.800 I've never flown. 00:34:35.140 --> 00:34:38.420 I've been in an airplane before, but I've never taken over the controls. 00:34:38.420 --> 00:34:41.220 But I'll happily take over the controls if they need me to. 00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:46.140 I've got friends that have gone through Emory. 00:34:47.460 --> 00:34:51.100 Emory Riddle, are you based out of Florida in the Orlando area? 00:34:51.260 --> 00:34:52.560 Do you work out of Orlando? 00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:54.240 No. 00:34:54.580 --> 00:34:55.140 Not right now. 00:34:55.220 --> 00:34:56.280 I'm based in Georgia. 00:34:56.760 --> 00:34:57.040 Okay. 00:34:57.200 --> 00:34:59.380 You said Daytona was such flair. 00:34:59.520 --> 00:35:03.900 I'm like, he may be in Central Florida out of the location there. 00:35:04.020 --> 00:35:04.540 Anyway, sorry. 00:35:04.620 --> 00:35:04.820 It's fine. 00:35:04.820 --> 00:35:08.220 Well, I mean, it's a personal goal of mine to go back to Florida. 00:35:08.620 --> 00:35:11.860 I mean, another passion is obviously flight. 00:35:12.060 --> 00:35:14.380 But more importantly, I enjoy space. 00:35:14.700 --> 00:35:18.680 I love Falcon 9, SpaceX, Blue Origin, all those companies. 00:35:18.980 --> 00:35:20.460 I love that. 00:35:21.420 --> 00:35:21.980 Very cool. 00:35:22.380 --> 00:35:30.460 So next up would be a VRChat space exploration launch rockets into outer space. 00:35:30.720 --> 00:35:31.460 And no. 00:35:32.660 --> 00:35:33.320 Man, it's like. 00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:33.980 I don't know. 00:35:34.820 --> 00:35:38.640 That may be a great idea or a horrible idea. 00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:39.100 I don't know. 00:35:39.500 --> 00:35:40.120 Oh, man. 00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:41.420 This is just. 00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:48.120 It's beautiful that such a abstract idea. 00:35:49.720 --> 00:35:55.160 Like an air show turns into ministry. 00:35:55.420 --> 00:35:58.420 And I want to get into some of the ministry implications. 00:35:58.420 --> 00:36:11.640 But I do know that, you know, there there's an interesting relationship here with with the Blue Angels and like there's been some some some tribute work or some things that you've done. 00:36:11.640 --> 00:36:14.400 And so journey rocker. 00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:16.340 Are you the best one to speak into that? 00:36:17.100 --> 00:36:17.420 Yeah. 00:36:17.420 --> 00:36:20.740 So I'm going to be very, very, very brief as I can. 00:36:20.740 --> 00:36:26.380 So my journey with the Blue Angels goes back to when my grandfather was affiliated with the U.S. Navy. 00:36:26.600 --> 00:36:31.060 And when I was really, really young, that was the first air show my grandfather ever took me to. 00:36:31.140 --> 00:36:32.920 And I fell in such love with the Blue Angels. 00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:42.420 Just, you know, the way that they fly and they're so coordinated, they're so close, their maneuvers are just so incredible that I really fell in love with it. 00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:44.420 My grandfather, you know, begged me. 00:36:44.460 --> 00:36:51.680 He's like, you know, I want you somehow, if you can, to get involved in the Navy or get involved with the Blue Angels or aviation in some way. 00:36:52.820 --> 00:37:08.940 You know, later on in my life, I unfortunately sustained a very, very serious injury to my left shoulder where I have a little bit of paralysis that goes into my hand so that, you know, prohibits me from being able to do certain things and, you know, certain motory functions with it. 00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:12.640 So being able to fly in real life was out of the question. 00:37:14.160 --> 00:37:19.900 But, you know, I wanted to carry on my grandfather's legacy when he had passed away in 2020. 00:37:21.240 --> 00:37:31.780 So I came on to VRChat at one point and I was just messing around in an aviation instance and I discovered and came across a Blue Angels instance and I was like, wow, like this is so cool. 00:37:31.900 --> 00:37:33.160 It looks so realistic. 00:37:33.720 --> 00:37:37.440 You know, I could actually sit in the back of a Blue Angels jet and be a Blue Angels pilot. 00:37:37.740 --> 00:37:38.460 This is amazing. 00:37:38.620 --> 00:37:43.680 I wonder if the actual Blue Angels team knows about this. 00:37:44.020 --> 00:37:45.740 You know, I wonder if they really know about it. 00:37:45.740 --> 00:37:54.840 And there was at that time a Blue Angels team and they were a bunch of like adults that were on there at the time. 00:37:55.060 --> 00:37:58.820 And I met one of the pilots and I don't remember his name. 00:38:00.040 --> 00:38:03.660 I believe his first name was Jonathan, but, you know, getting off topic. 00:38:03.780 --> 00:38:08.020 But I met him and we started talking about it. 00:38:08.080 --> 00:38:10.980 And he said, yeah, the Blue Angels really don't know too much about it. 00:38:11.040 --> 00:38:12.620 You know, they're the U.S. Navy. 00:38:13.120 --> 00:38:15.920 You know, I really don't think they would have any interest in a VR game. 00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:17.340 And I said, well, I think you're wrong. 00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:20.300 I said, I really think that they should know about this. 00:38:21.460 --> 00:38:35.540 So I ended up later on, as Boyd was saying, joining a Blue Angels team on VR chat, the same team that Boyd was a part of, like a Blue Angels trippy thing where we portrayed them, you know, and did all their maneuvers. 00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:49.360 And I actually took what we were doing, this idea, what you see on VR, and brought it over to Long Island Republic Airport, which is where the Blue Angels do their show here on Long Island. 00:38:49.820 --> 00:38:59.120 And I met with the executive director of the airport, her name is Judith Zalewski, and the president of the airport, Tony, and brought the idea. 00:38:59.260 --> 00:39:02.660 I was like, you know, I really want the Blue Angels to see what we're doing. 00:39:02.740 --> 00:39:04.780 I think it's a special thing that we're doing. 00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:12.560 And we could put people, you know, via VR into the cockpit of Blue Angels jets and teach them about the formation. 00:39:13.140 --> 00:39:14.680 And they fell in love with the idea. 00:39:14.820 --> 00:39:15.940 I have a friend of mine. 00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:17.920 His name is Chris Fonte. 00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:27.040 He works for Customer XR and Pioneer VR Gaming, in which he takes what we do on VR, and he brings it to an actual event. 00:39:28.020 --> 00:39:37.560 You know, he has a whole virtual reality setup where people can actually sit down in the back of these jets that you see behind us, actually watch a live air show from a massive screen. 00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:40.100 And we did that in the airport for the Blue Angels. 00:39:40.220 --> 00:39:45.420 We actually were able to do and work with the Blue Angels air show just last year. 00:39:45.900 --> 00:39:56.820 I got to meet Commander Armitas of the Blue Angels at the time, Jack Kightley, Amanda Lee, the first female pilot to ever fly with the Blue Angels. 00:39:57.220 --> 00:39:58.000 She made history. 00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:00.000 So I got to be a part of that. 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:11.580 And when I met Void, you know, through the Holy Aces, you know, I wanted to spread a little bit of what I encountered with that team, what I've learned, onto this team. 00:40:11.980 --> 00:40:23.200 And I'm proud to announce that we will be working with the Blue Angels for this upcoming air show for 2026, commemorating the signing of the Declaration of Independence here on Long Island. 00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:28.240 It's an amazing opportunity, not just for myself, but for this entire team. 00:40:28.700 --> 00:40:30.860 Everybody here has been absolutely incredible. 00:40:31.140 --> 00:40:36.760 And I love Void's vision for what he's doing for all the church groups that we work here, including for yours, Jeff. 00:40:36.820 --> 00:40:39.200 It's an amazing opportunity what he's doing. 00:40:39.260 --> 00:40:42.060 And we've touched so many lives here on VRChat. 00:40:42.140 --> 00:40:47.760 And we're inspiring people that are aviation enthusiasts what it's like to actually be a pilot. 00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:50.180 Very cool. 00:40:50.300 --> 00:40:50.480 All right. 00:40:50.520 --> 00:40:54.160 Hey, so I'm just going to show a quick clip of some of the Blue Angels. 00:40:57.160 --> 00:41:01.320 Do you guys want to narrate over this or we want to crank the music for this clip? 00:41:02.680 --> 00:41:03.700 Wait, I'll leave that to you. 00:41:05.460 --> 00:41:06.020 Crank it. 00:41:06.240 --> 00:41:06.740 Crank it, Jeff. 00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:07.100 All right. 00:41:07.200 --> 00:41:08.600 Let's crank it. 00:41:08.640 --> 00:41:09.160 Here y'all go. 00:41:09.160 --> 00:41:09.160 Let's crank it. 00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:38.160 Move every number on the highway. 00:41:41.160 --> 00:41:47.200 Too long since I had a taste of home. 00:41:47.200 --> 00:41:57.880 Believe me, it ain't for the love to my name. 00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:05.400 Live, on the road to sing a song. 00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:11.540 Are you here for the party? 00:42:13.140 --> 00:42:16.500 Are you feeling alive? 00:42:17.660 --> 00:42:20.900 We've been thinking about it. 00:42:21.540 --> 00:42:22.840 How about you? 00:42:23.940 --> 00:42:24.260 Ow! 00:42:26.260 --> 00:42:27.220 Tonight 00:42:27.220 --> 00:42:33.800 I'm going to break away 00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:36.000 Tonight 00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:43.000 Raise your hands if you're ready. 00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:22.000 Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. 00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:34.000 Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. 00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:38.000 We just can't live without it. 00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:42.000 We just can't live without it. 00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:45.000 We just can't live without it. 00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:50.000 We just can't live without it. 00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:52.000 We just can't live without it. 00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:53.000 We just can't live without it. 00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:54.000 We just can't live without it. 00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:55.000 We just can't live without it. 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:56.000 We just can't live without it. 00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:57.000 We just can't live without it. 00:43:57.000 --> 00:43:58.000 We just can't live without it. 00:43:58.000 --> 00:43:59.000 We just can't live without it. 00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:00.000 We just can't live without it. 00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:01.000 We just can't live without it. 00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:02.000 We just can't live without it. 00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:03.000 We just can't live without it. 00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:04.000 We just can't live without it. 00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:05.000 We just can't live without it. 00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:06.000 We just can't live without it. 00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:07.000 We just can't live without it. 00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:08.000 We just can't live without it. 00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:09.000 We just can't live without it. 00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:10.000 We just can't live without it. 00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:11.000 We just can't live without it. 00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:12.000 We just can't live without it. 00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:13.000 We just can't live without it. 00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:24.000 Anyway, so so interesting, man. 00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:27.000 How how often do you guys practice a week? 00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:28.000 How long? 00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:31.000 Like how many hours per week to do the pilots directly? 00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:32.000 So practice. 00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:33.000 I like to keep it. 00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:36.000 I like to, you know, personal life might get in the way. 00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:38.000 I like to be very loose on terms of practices. 00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:44.000 We practice on a consistent schedule of Monday, Wednesday and Friday. 00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:49.000 So Monday and Wednesday are diamond practices. 00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:55.000 Those two diamond and soloist are two separate types of show, I guess. 00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:58.000 So the pilots one through four, that's considered the diamond formation. 00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:03.000 The one that, you know, the four jets you saw group together, that's a diamond. 00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:08.000 And you're going to see two others that are doing, you know, a bunch of crazy loops and turns and high speed passes. 00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:10.000 Those are your two solas. 00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:15.000 So Monday, diamond practices for about an hour. 00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:17.000 Tuesday, solos practice. 00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:18.000 Wednesday is diamond practice. 00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:19.000 Thursday, solos practice. 00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:23.000 And on Friday, we bring it all together and we practice as a team on Fridays. 00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:24.000 Okay. 00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:30.000 Roughly like how many hours to 18? 00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:33.000 Like what's what's a rough hour count? 00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:36.000 We practice about two hours a day. 00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:37.000 Wow. 00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:42.000 Have you guys ever actually been in the same space physically together? 00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:43.000 We have not. 00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:44.000 At least I haven't. 00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:46.000 I have. 00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:50.000 Me and one of our other pilots, Tony, actually. 00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:54.000 We're from Long Island and we've actually been several times together. 00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:57.000 And Tony is an incredible person. 00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:02.000 He's actually worked with me last year and helped out with Republic Airport. 00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:07.000 And he actually flew in that demonstration, which you just saw for the point is he flew the C-130. 00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:09.000 He flies the Fat Albert. 00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:10.000 Okay. 00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:12.000 You know, C-130 in that video. 00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:18.000 So when we did that air show at Jones Beach, he actually demonstrated flying the actual C-130. 00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:19.000 C-130. 00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:20.000 Wow. 00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:22.000 Man, all of a sudden now I'm body conscious for the C-130. 00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:23.000 That's, that's horrible. 00:46:23.000 --> 00:46:27.000 What a shame. 00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:41.000 But so like you guys are arguably like for a year, you, you all been connected together via virtual reality and discord, building relationships, practicing to do this, this whole thing together. 00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:57.000 Now, you, you mentioned to me, you mentioned earlier that some of your volunteer teams are Bible studies and, and you know, I know Journey Rocker talked about being on, on doing this for churches and ministries. 00:46:57.000 --> 00:47:01.000 Like what, what's the ministry implications of, of what we're seeing here? 00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:04.000 Y'all tell me a little bit about that. 00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:22.000 So I, I must say the ministry here, um, it's, it's fairly light from what you compared to see to other ministries in terms of Bible studies and prayer meetings, because you know, we're mostly doing this, but every once in a while we like to gather and, you know, talk about Christ and have a prayer meeting and a Bible study, you know, every once in a while. 00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:39.000 But, uh, in terms of ministry, we're, we're, we're really focused on doing this, but, um, I am currently working on setting up a consistent Bible study and a consistent prayer meeting, um, that will, uh, definitely improve our ministry setting. 00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:40.000 Beautiful. 00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:45.000 I know at one point you were doing these, doing performances for like churches in virtual reality. 00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:50.000 Is that still a thing that, that you're doing and try to network with some of the churches in that space? 00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:51.000 Yes. 00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:57.000 Um, I am currently planning a air show on the end of August with VR church. 00:47:57.000 --> 00:47:58.000 Okay. 00:47:58.000 --> 00:47:59.000 By Pastor Alina. 00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:00.000 Sure. 00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:01.000 Pastor. 00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:02.000 Yeah. 00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:03.000 Pastor Alina, Pastor Coco. 00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:08.000 Coco's over on the, um, the, the gaming side with, um, what is it? 00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:09.000 Um, what is it? 00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:10.000 Final fantasy. 00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:11.000 Uh, anyway, cool. 00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:13.000 Uh, what, do you know a date on that? 00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:15.000 Is there, is there a date that you guys have planned yet? 00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:17.000 There is not a date. 00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:21.000 All I know is that's, it's at the end of August, uh, early September. 00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:22.000 It's somewhere in that general area. 00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:23.000 Very cool. 00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:24.000 Yeah. 00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:27.000 We would, we would love to get the word out on that. 00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:29.000 So let us know when, when that is. 00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:32.000 Uh, we, we love our friends over at VR church. 00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:37.000 Uh, and so that, yeah, as a general rule, like when you talk with some of the pastors in virtual 00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:39.000 reality, uh, are they, are they supportive? 00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:40.000 Are they excited? 00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:44.000 Like what, what, what's some of the response on the VR side? 00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:47.000 Uh, is there an all of above option? 00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:48.000 Yeah. 00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:59.000 They are very, I must say for VR chat, um, the pastors are very, very, very supportive. 00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:06.000 I, I, I am so grateful that I met such a community that would be as supportive as they are. 00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:11.000 And, um, not only the pastors, the people, the people that go to these communities, you 00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:17.000 know, these, these services, um, I, I couldn't ask for a better, a better community. 00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:19.000 I, I, they're family to me. 00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:23.000 These guys are family churches, family, everybody's family. 00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:30.000 I, I, I have got to say, I've made some of the greatest memories alongside the, uh, the 00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:33.000 church community here in VR chat and in the digital space. 00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:34.000 You're yourself, Jeff. 00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:35.000 Yeah. 00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:36.000 Yeah. 00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:37.000 Awesome. 00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:38.000 I, I, I love that. 00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:39.000 I appreciate that. 00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:43.000 When you, like, uh, I know how many of you are involved in physical churches? 00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:46.000 Uh, I know a couple of you mentioned that. 00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:50.000 Um, what is, so I'm, I'm curious just for giggles. 00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:56.000 What's the response with like your, your pastor or your church leaders when you were like, yeah, 00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:59.000 I do this virtual reality thing. 00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:03.000 It's a, uh, a Christian ministry and we help churches in virtual reality. 00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:08.000 What's the response, uh, to something like that from a, from a physical life pastor? 00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:10.000 I haven't told mine yet. 00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:12.000 I really haven't. 00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:14.000 I'm sorry. 00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:15.000 I'm sorry. 00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:17.000 Stop, stop for one second. 00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:18.000 I do want to come back to you. 00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:19.000 I apologize. 00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:20.000 Dark void. 00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:22.000 You've been leading this thing for like over a year. 00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:25.000 You haven't told your direct leadership yet. 00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:29.000 No, they're going to be like, they're going to, they're going to be like asking so many questions 00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:31.000 that I want to avoid. 00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:34.000 Um, I, I have not told my pastor yet. 00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:35.000 No, they do not. 00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:35.000 Okay. 00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:37.000 I want to wait until we get bigger. 00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:43.000 And then one day, one Sunday, we can be like, um, you know, the pastors up on, up on the, 00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:45.000 the stage and like, here comes the big screen. 00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:46.000 It's just this. 00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:48.000 This and there's an air show going on. 00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:49.000 Surprise air show. 00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:52.000 So I've not told my pastor. 00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:53.000 Yes. 00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:55.000 Um, I'll be good. 00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:55.000 Yeah. 00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:58.000 I'm going to challenge you sooner than later, my friend. 00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:00.000 Um, I, I think you need to tell them. 00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:06.000 Uh, I think they would be surprisingly proud of you because you're a 15 year old doing that. 00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:17.000 They may not understand it, but my, my hope is that they would, um, support you by asking a ton of questions and then not understanding anything you would say after that. 00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:25.000 But, um, I, I, I cuts, I cut someone off who there was a story before I apologize for, for cutting you off. 00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:26.000 Somebody please go ahead. 00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:29.000 Uh, so that's all right, Jeff. 00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:46.000 It is perfectly fine, but I personally, I'm not told my pastor about this endeavor because usually when you tell people about VR stuff, when you're a part of it, you get that idea of just like, oh, this is what you do. 00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:49.000 Or this is not actually real life. 00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:53.000 This is not reaching out to people or physically actually talking to people. 00:51:53.000 --> 00:51:58.000 Um, I've told a few friends, but they're a little leery of just like, sure. 00:51:58.000 --> 00:51:59.000 Would this thing last? 00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:00.000 Will this thing not? 00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:07.000 And, but I usually keep it to myself, but overall, I, I think this would be a good idea. 00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:15.000 Cause I've never seen the VR chat aviation or VR chat community, Christian community, seeing this presence. 00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:17.000 You're on VR chat is amazing. 00:52:17.000 --> 00:52:21.000 And the people you've met, it's, it's incredible. 00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:23.000 And definitely. 00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:26.000 I thought this was like, oh, one off thing. 00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:28.000 No, this is certainly not a one off thing. 00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:29.000 Yeah. 00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:30.000 Ministry. 00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:34.000 I think you can go to Africa and minister to people or go somewhere and minister to people. 00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:44.000 But most importantly, I think being here on VR chat, because there's a lot of people in here that go to these red light districts or whatever, just to get that fun. 00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:56.000 But knowing that these Christians are here and willing to go to these spots and minister in unique ways, like just doing these air shows, people can join and like, Hey, I like the air show. 00:52:56.000 --> 00:53:01.000 And it's like, Hey, let's go minister and talk about Jesus Christ and what he's done for you. 00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:09.000 It's, it's impressive of what void has done and sticking with him with what this means. 00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:11.000 It's very important. 00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:13.000 It's re it's really unique. 00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:18.000 Honestly, when have you ever seen a Christian aviation team? 00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:23.000 So dedicated to Christ, so dedicated to everyone and actually respects one another. 00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:24.000 Yeah. 00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:27.000 Usually when you fly these jets, you get an ego. 00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:30.000 You're like, I'm better than everybody else, but not here. 00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:33.000 Everyone understands their position and they want to learn. 00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:35.000 My headset crashed. 00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:38.000 So that's why I'm very stiff on the screen. 00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:39.000 So I'm just keeping the headset on. 00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:43.000 So I do not disappear on your screen. 00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:45.000 So that's funny. 00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:46.000 Dark foids. 00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:47.000 Do it. 00:53:47.000 --> 00:53:50.000 It's so funny right now. 00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:52.000 It could be my arms. 00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:53.000 Oh, my God. 00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:54.000 Oh, man. 00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:57.000 I was kind of wondering what was going on. 00:53:57.000 --> 00:53:59.000 Knowing the headset crashed me. 00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:00.000 That's even worse. 00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:01.000 I'm not now. 00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:02.000 Yeah. 00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:03.000 I'm not. 00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:06.000 I could rejoin, but the instance is closed. 00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:10.000 No, no, it's this is so beautiful at this moment. 00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:11.000 It's it's good. 00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:16.000 I mean, there's so much I love about what I'm seeing here. 00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:20.000 Like I'm I'm not even going to be able to rattle off everything. 00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:23.000 This is such an out of the box idea. 00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:33.000 Let's create a virtual reality Christian flight team to support churches in virtual reality. 00:54:33.000 --> 00:54:39.000 By the way, to it's in it's in VR chat, which is the dark space. 00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:47.000 And so you are rallying Christians on one of the darker spaces of of virtual reality right now. 00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:58.000 Three, it's led by a 15 year old high school kid for who's managed to recruit 18 volunteers, the majority of which are adults. 00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:06.000 Like it's this is a and this is why it's like, you know, when dark boy told me this when I met him a year or so ago, I'm like, yeah, whatever. 00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:11.000 You know, you know, just listen, I hear people tell me crazy stuff all the time. 00:55:11.000 --> 00:55:14.000 And to be to be honest, I like fact checked them a little bit. 00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:17.000 I started digging around and asking, hey, do you know this guy Dark Void? 00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:20.000 And they were like, yeah, they started telling me the story. 00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:23.000 And so I'm like, crap, this guy's really doing this for real. 00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:24.000 I love it. 00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:34.000 It's it's incredible because it is so off the wall, out of the box, so necessary in that space to rally the troops that are doing ministry in VR chat. 00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:42.000 Yeah, the sad thing in all of this and I'm putting on my physical church ministry hat. 00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:57.000 The sad thing is, is that you all don't feel like you're getting support from the church leaders because you've been burned previously, I'm assuming, or you've had conversations with people that are not supportive of this space. 00:55:57.000 --> 00:56:00.000 Oh, yeah, absolutely. 00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:04.000 And so like for me, man, I want to like apologize for that. 00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:16.000 Like you, you should be able to have those conversations with, with, with your church leaders and, and those that are spiritually guiding you and, and, and have confidence to be able to, you know, hey, like, this is what I'm doing. 00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:23.000 This is some of the fruit that we're seeing, you know, even if nothing else, if they don't get it, man, listen, I'll be praying for you. 00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:27.000 I want to go off of what you said. 00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:31.000 And I want to, I want to say a scripture. 00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:35.000 And I think, I think that'll, that'll really wrap it around. 00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:41.000 So I knew, I knew once this team started kicking off, I knew how bad VR chat was. 00:56:41.000 --> 00:56:44.000 I knew we weren't going to be liked outside of the Christian community. 00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:48.000 I knew we were going to be attacked and I stuck by a scripture. 00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:54.000 If the world hates you, just know that the world hated me first. 00:56:54.000 --> 00:56:56.000 Yeah. 00:56:56.000 --> 00:57:02.000 I stuck by that scripture and I got through all the pain, all the suffering, all the tears. 00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:12.000 And I, I, I kept, I kept going and I pushed, I pushed, I pushed, I pushed and I pushed and I knew, I knew I was going to get something at the end of the, at the end of the tunnel. 00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:22.000 And, uh, I got to say with the amount of you guys that have been here to support me, support what I've built. 00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:23.000 I thank you. 00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:27.000 There's, there's, there's nothing I can say more, nothing I can do more. 00:57:27.000 --> 00:57:33.000 I mean, I was your age, uh, to be honest, I was a dark void. 00:57:33.000 --> 00:57:35.000 I think this is going to be honest to God truth. 00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:38.000 I was actually probably a little younger than you. 00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:44.000 Um, when I, I can say I first had my calling to be a digital pastor. 00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:49.000 It was, um, it was a summer 19, it was 1992. 00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:59.000 I was 12 years old, maybe 14 years old at that point as a, as a middle school student and, um, eight, maybe seventh or eighth grade. 00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:17.000 Um, and, and I cannot tell you the number of people in spiritual leadership over in my life, over spiritual leadership in my life, pastors, um, friends, uh, people who told me, Hey Jeff, it doesn't work that way. 00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:21.000 You can't be a pastor with, with computers. 00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:22.000 You can't be a pastor. 00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:27.000 Uh, I mean, in the inner, this was so early, like the internet was theoretical. 00:58:27.000 --> 00:58:29.000 It was like military only. 00:58:29.000 --> 00:58:30.000 It wasn't even like released. 00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:34.000 AOL was like beta, uh, in, in, in the early nineties. 00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:45.000 And so, um, it's been, I was not showing the, even the spiritual maturity of what you just shared. 00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:59.000 When, when I was your age, I was listening to those people instead of standing on scripture and saying, if they hate what I'm doing, well, they hated what God was doing, what Jesus was doing. 00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:00.000 The world hated Jesus too. 00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:14.000 And, and, and let me tell you, if, if you continue on in this space or even if it's outside, just life in general, um, as you stand as a Christian, the world will always hate you. 00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:42.000 Um, even, even as a, as a Christian doing the stuff that, that I'm currently doing, there are Christians in the world who hate what I'm doing and have called out, uh, you know, myself by name, my organization, the church digital by name, uh, down, uh, you know, uh, in disgust centered around some of the stuff that we're doing with, um, with digital missionaries and digital ministry. 00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:56.000 And virtual reality churches and the like, um, some fun stories on that, that I'll tell for a different day, but I am so proud of you for doing what you're doing. 00:59:56.000 --> 01:00:11.920 I'm so proud of this team, uh, for standing in, in, in a dark space, uh, shedding light, uh, and, and really gathering and rallying Christians who need to be shown some light in the dark space. 01:00:12.160 --> 01:00:16.620 And so, man, thanks for, thanks for doing what you guys are doing. 01:00:16.740 --> 01:00:23.960 Do you guys have any, like, um, what, what are some, what's the next like five years, three years look like? 01:00:24.020 --> 01:00:27.520 Do you have any like big events or, or big rallying points? 01:00:27.660 --> 01:00:31.400 What, what's like going on in the future for, for the holy aces here? 01:00:32.360 --> 01:00:49.680 I think at this moment, we're taking it day by day, but I mean, things, we got a lot of things planned, a lot of things that are unplanned and especially getting our voices out to you and learning, especially to a podcast, because people want to hear more about this. 01:00:49.680 --> 01:01:00.280 And I know just in general showing aviation, aviation is cool in general, but having that package of, Hey, here's some aviation, cool aviation stuff, but here's the ministry as well. 01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:09.920 Like it's not, Jesus does so much, allows us to do so much and gives us so many gifts that these are our gifts to the world. 01:01:10.020 --> 01:01:14.440 We want to show what we can do and also minister to these people. 01:01:14.720 --> 01:01:17.800 So, I mean, that's, I guess that's my final word to anybody else. 01:01:19.680 --> 01:01:22.520 Um, man, I don't even know where to begin. 01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:34.140 Um, I've been doing this on VR chat, the whole aviation and flying around and working with teams and doing the stuff on the outside with the real life aviation team is for quite some time now. 01:01:34.200 --> 01:01:36.000 And I have to admit, it's a lot of work. 01:01:36.280 --> 01:01:37.420 It's a lot of patience. 01:01:37.420 --> 01:01:46.180 And, you know, I think Void said it best, you know, that you have a lot of people there that really try to bring you down and it makes things extremely hard and difficult. 01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:53.400 Uh, and it's, it creates obstacles and hurdles that we as a team all have to get over. 01:01:53.540 --> 01:02:14.840 And, and, and that's been such a hard part throughout this entire journey, but I'm so confident that with what we have to share and what we can bring to people that really want to be aviation enthusiasts, want to be closer to God and, you know, sort of new heights and, you know, set great boundaries and goals for themselves. 01:02:14.840 --> 01:02:21.340 You know, I think, you know, this is going to be a great opportunity and who knows what the future holds for us. 01:02:21.460 --> 01:02:26.040 You know, this can lead to something bigger for the upcoming years. 01:02:26.100 --> 01:02:32.000 So, you know, like Matt said it best, you know, we take everything on a day by day basis. 01:02:32.160 --> 01:02:47.040 I mean, there was a point where we didn't even have our own instance to fly in and, you know, you see what you see in front of you right now and all the work that and support that we have from everybody that's within this team and all the work that we're all putting into this together. 01:02:47.840 --> 01:02:52.100 And, you know, look how incredible this is, you know, what you're seeing in front of you. 01:02:54.440 --> 01:02:54.840 Beautiful. 01:02:56.520 --> 01:02:59.080 So somebody's out there got a crazy idea. 01:02:59.640 --> 01:03:01.020 I mean, maybe it is. 01:03:01.060 --> 01:03:04.440 I want to do a Christian astronaut flight team. 01:03:04.560 --> 01:03:06.200 I want to do a virtual reality. 01:03:06.500 --> 01:03:11.240 I want to do a jet skiing thing where I jump a shark. 01:03:11.400 --> 01:03:12.540 I want to do. 01:03:12.840 --> 01:03:13.800 I don't know. 01:03:14.200 --> 01:03:16.420 But somebody's got some crazy idea. 01:03:16.860 --> 01:03:19.340 Jump the shark thing in jet ski would be pretty cool. 01:03:19.520 --> 01:03:20.220 Put Christ in the center of it. 01:03:20.660 --> 01:03:22.420 Whatever it is, put Christ in the center of it. 01:03:22.700 --> 01:03:24.380 Hey, build on that for two minutes. 01:03:24.920 --> 01:03:25.120 Go. 01:03:28.380 --> 01:03:29.920 Well, okay. 01:03:31.160 --> 01:03:31.640 You got it. 01:03:31.640 --> 01:03:36.080 I think that Christ is everything. 01:03:36.300 --> 01:03:37.520 I think you should make Christ everything. 01:03:37.660 --> 01:03:37.800 Why? 01:03:37.900 --> 01:03:39.060 Because Christ is everything. 01:03:41.000 --> 01:03:42.300 Here's a fine-toothed example. 01:03:42.300 --> 01:03:44.980 You said it yourself, Jeff, a 15-year-old. 01:03:45.500 --> 01:03:47.680 15-year-olds nowadays, I go around my school. 01:03:47.800 --> 01:03:48.380 I see them vaping. 01:03:48.460 --> 01:03:49.320 I see them drinking alcohol. 01:03:49.500 --> 01:03:51.220 I see them having unsafe sex. 01:03:52.080 --> 01:03:53.180 I tried to build something. 01:03:53.980 --> 01:03:57.380 I tried to do something, and I'm still trying, and I'm hoping I can do it. 01:03:57.940 --> 01:03:59.380 But I didn't do it. 01:03:59.760 --> 01:04:00.660 He didn't do it. 01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:01.720 He didn't do it. 01:04:01.980 --> 01:04:02.800 He didn't do it. 01:04:03.520 --> 01:04:04.340 Nobody did it. 01:04:04.560 --> 01:04:05.100 Christ did it. 01:04:05.920 --> 01:04:11.160 I think you put Christ at the center of something, it can become something magical. 01:04:12.100 --> 01:04:21.760 And take it from the 15-year-old who met Jesus on an operation table having heart surgery. 01:04:22.180 --> 01:04:26.100 You can do anything, as long as Christ's in the center of it. 01:04:27.440 --> 01:04:27.880 Sure. 01:04:28.640 --> 01:04:29.880 Well, dang it, bro. 01:04:29.980 --> 01:04:36.540 I'm trying to wrap up the show, and you just told me you found Christ when you were on an operating table having heart surgery. 01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:43.160 Maybe you should lead with that next time so we can have – we're going to have to have you back on because I want to hear that story. 01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:44.720 I didn't know that about you. 01:04:47.740 --> 01:04:49.580 Maybe a part two to the Holy Aces. 01:04:50.600 --> 01:04:54.580 I can make it brief if you want. 01:04:54.720 --> 01:04:56.000 It's not a long story. 01:04:56.540 --> 01:04:57.100 Go for it. 01:04:57.140 --> 01:04:57.660 Let me hear it. 01:04:58.740 --> 01:05:06.420 So about two years ago, I was riding a bike with a few friends, and I noticed my heart started pounding really, really fast. 01:05:06.420 --> 01:05:07.420 And I felt weak. 01:05:07.880 --> 01:05:12.240 I felt like I was about to pass out, like I was about to have a cardiac arrest. 01:05:12.500 --> 01:05:16.680 They took me to the hospital, found out I had WPW, Wolf-Parkinson-White syndrome. 01:05:17.280 --> 01:05:29.160 And what that is is when you get energetic and your heart starts pumping and the blood starts flowing, it gets into a rhythm where it can get upwards of 250 to 300 beats per minute, and that is lethal. 01:05:29.720 --> 01:05:29.940 Yeah. 01:05:31.320 --> 01:05:34.520 I had to be taken into the operation room as soon as possible. 01:05:34.520 --> 01:05:40.120 I had a quick ablation, which is basically they burn off the nerve inside the heart. 01:05:40.240 --> 01:05:42.840 So they made entry in the heart, and they burned. 01:05:45.020 --> 01:05:49.160 They put the gas mask on me, and I heard this ringing just in my ear. 01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:54.080 It got louder and louder and louder and louder and louder until I was just overwhelmed. 01:05:54.900 --> 01:05:59.360 Like I was shedding tears on the operation table of just Christ's presence. 01:06:00.040 --> 01:06:01.460 And during this time, I was young. 01:06:01.860 --> 01:06:05.500 I knew of Christ, but I didn't really, like, know Him. 01:06:05.800 --> 01:06:09.760 But it's one of those feelings where, like, you know it's Him. 01:06:10.240 --> 01:06:15.760 And I just got overwhelmed with His love, His comfort, His presence, His warmth. 01:06:16.380 --> 01:06:20.980 And ever since that day, just right then and there, there it was. 01:06:21.240 --> 01:06:22.400 That's the birth of Darkoid. 01:06:23.160 --> 01:06:23.560 Wow. 01:06:24.580 --> 01:06:27.540 Ever since then, I've been doing okay. 01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:28.360 I'm alive. 01:06:29.260 --> 01:06:33.380 I have a better chance to be struck by lightning five times than to come back. 01:06:34.060 --> 01:06:35.340 So I'm okay. 01:06:36.020 --> 01:06:37.800 I still got to get it checked every once in a while. 01:06:37.920 --> 01:06:39.840 I actually got to get an EKG here in a few weeks. 01:06:40.440 --> 01:06:40.520 Yeah. 01:06:40.940 --> 01:06:42.520 But other than that, I'm alive. 01:06:42.660 --> 01:06:43.680 I'm healthy. 01:06:43.820 --> 01:06:44.400 I can run. 01:06:44.520 --> 01:06:45.760 I can play basketball. 01:06:46.980 --> 01:06:49.020 I'm in peak physical condition. 01:06:49.120 --> 01:06:54.640 And I wanted to ask, since we're, you know, ending off the stream and we're wrapping it up, like you said, 01:06:54.680 --> 01:07:01.320 I was curious if I could really quick go up and just do a few things, just do a few maneuvers, like maybe three or four. 01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:02.800 I was just curious. 01:07:02.940 --> 01:07:04.220 Or if you wanted to come see the Jets. 01:07:04.340 --> 01:07:05.240 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. 01:07:05.300 --> 01:07:07.360 I think that's great. 01:07:09.200 --> 01:07:13.420 You've got 10 more minutes, as long as it's okay with the rest of your team. 01:07:13.940 --> 01:07:17.720 And give me a demo of whatever you want within that 10 minutes. 01:07:17.740 --> 01:07:18.200 I will do that. 01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:19.600 I will do that. 01:07:20.660 --> 01:07:26.460 So, Hoku's going to take this time to readjust the camera and put it into the crowd perspective. 01:07:27.780 --> 01:07:28.140 Okay. 01:07:28.220 --> 01:07:30.680 You may or may not get a little motion. 01:07:31.120 --> 01:07:32.160 I apologize. 01:07:32.720 --> 01:07:33.740 But I'm messing with the camera. 01:07:33.820 --> 01:07:38.120 And while Floyd's doing this, I'm going to do what my job usually is. 01:07:38.120 --> 01:07:46.380 And I'm going to go ahead and say, ladies and gentlemen, flying Holy Ace number one from Nashville, Tennessee. 01:07:46.860 --> 01:07:53.040 Commander, call side, Nebula, Dark Void. 01:07:54.700 --> 01:07:55.320 All right. 01:07:55.380 --> 01:07:55.540 All right. 01:07:55.560 --> 01:07:57.080 It's always so exciting, Zuko. 01:07:57.380 --> 01:07:57.760 Yeah. 01:07:57.760 --> 01:08:00.160 That was beautiful. 01:08:00.800 --> 01:08:02.900 It sounds like you've done it a couple of times. 01:08:03.540 --> 01:08:03.640 Yeah. 01:08:04.020 --> 01:08:04.420 Okay. 01:08:04.600 --> 01:08:06.840 Let me do my settings real quick. 01:08:09.700 --> 01:08:10.660 It's smooth. 01:08:11.620 --> 01:08:12.600 Let me know you're ready, Hoku. 01:08:13.820 --> 01:08:14.540 Affirm. 01:08:14.540 --> 01:08:24.620 So, Jeff, how'd you like to stream? 01:08:25.880 --> 01:08:26.800 I love it. 01:08:26.920 --> 01:08:27.840 Man, this went great. 01:08:29.700 --> 01:08:40.320 I'm telling you, like, I love the fact that you're a kid doing this crazy idea and you conned a bunch of adults into doing it with you. 01:08:41.100 --> 01:08:44.940 And they're, like, responsive and serving together. 01:08:45.060 --> 01:08:50.380 And you're doing it in this weird, crazy space where anything goes. 01:08:51.420 --> 01:08:57.660 And, you know, I love that you're a beacon for, like, the Christians in this space. 01:08:58.100 --> 01:09:07.920 Actually, I find it really ironic that, like, some of the other areas are anti what you're doing as light Christianity as what you're doing baked in. 01:09:09.580 --> 01:09:16.120 You know, it's, man, the metaverse is just so unique right now. 01:09:16.560 --> 01:09:20.320 Like, it's so, especially VR chat, it's the wild, wild west. 01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:33.640 Well, Jeff, I mean, while Nebula is flying in on the state on your audience right side, maybe we could do a live stream of an air show with you. 01:09:34.340 --> 01:09:34.960 Or you can. 01:09:35.700 --> 01:09:37.180 Yeah, I mean, I'd love that. 01:09:37.300 --> 01:09:40.500 We need to, I definitely, well, let me say it this way. 01:09:40.640 --> 01:09:42.240 I definitely would want to. 01:09:42.500 --> 01:09:43.600 We're expanding. 01:09:44.640 --> 01:09:47.060 I'll give a sneak peek as he's doing all this. 01:09:47.080 --> 01:09:47.680 This is great. 01:09:49.980 --> 01:09:55.440 We're doing some unique things here with the show and the stream over the next year. 01:09:56.540 --> 01:10:04.000 And I think there is a great opportunity to feature some of the stuff that you're doing again very soon. 01:10:07.900 --> 01:10:08.680 Oh, yeah. 01:10:09.020 --> 01:10:12.140 And so normally, there's lots of sound effects. 01:10:12.240 --> 01:10:13.340 I know we're hearing it. 01:10:13.740 --> 01:10:18.300 We're just seeing video, not the audio of it for technical reasons. 01:10:18.300 --> 01:10:24.220 But I'm guessing it's all, like, you know, engines blaring in, actually, in VR chat. 01:10:24.420 --> 01:10:25.700 That's a lot of engine noises. 01:10:26.420 --> 01:10:26.640 Yeah. 01:10:26.740 --> 01:10:27.380 No problem. 01:10:27.880 --> 01:10:28.660 It certainly is. 01:10:28.920 --> 01:10:31.720 It is very, very loud with those jets. 01:10:31.800 --> 01:10:33.080 You can barely hear yourself think. 01:10:33.340 --> 01:10:35.260 And not all of them just having four. 01:10:37.160 --> 01:10:47.960 I would certainly love to give you all a video of the entire six because we have a maneuver that is really unique to the Holy Aces. 01:10:48.300 --> 01:10:48.740 Yeah. 01:10:48.740 --> 01:10:49.780 Really, really unique. 01:10:50.300 --> 01:10:53.440 And I think everyone will enjoy it. 01:10:53.760 --> 01:10:54.880 And it'll be awesome. 01:10:55.540 --> 01:10:56.100 Very cool. 01:10:56.600 --> 01:11:03.320 I'll tell you, I, you know, even in, like, basic video games, I can't fly worth anything. 01:11:03.820 --> 01:11:12.020 Like, literally, if I'm, if I'm playing PS5 and I got to fly something, I hand the controller to my son and I'm like, okay, you beat this level because I can't. 01:11:12.020 --> 01:11:12.260 I can't. 01:11:12.260 --> 01:11:22.780 I, I, I am, I'm flight, like, um, it was funny, you know, uh, Journey Rockers, you know, mocking me because I mentioned N64. 01:11:23.220 --> 01:11:28.360 I think the last flying game I was actually good at was Star Fox 64. 01:11:29.020 --> 01:11:35.500 Anything since Star Fox 64, I am garbage on, uh, at the flying levels. 01:11:35.580 --> 01:11:39.880 Other things I can do, okay, but, but nothing, uh, uh, at, at flying. 01:11:40.140 --> 01:11:40.880 All right, Jeff. 01:11:42.120 --> 01:11:44.680 Uh, what are you, like, flying to the Mars? 01:11:44.960 --> 01:11:45.380 Where are you going? 01:11:45.500 --> 01:11:46.060 Speed pass. 01:11:46.540 --> 01:11:47.020 Okay. 01:11:47.120 --> 01:11:47.780 I'm zoomed all the way. 01:11:47.780 --> 01:11:51.680 I am currently gaining altitude to come back down even faster. 01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:56.400 And what you are going to see is a cone of air just in wrap my aircraft. 01:11:57.300 --> 01:11:58.920 I will try to catch it. 01:12:00.140 --> 01:12:01.080 Do your best. 01:12:01.160 --> 01:12:02.300 I'm going to be going very fast. 01:12:04.660 --> 01:12:08.080 It will essentially be going super fast for the speed of sound. 01:12:09.080 --> 01:12:11.460 I'm VRChat's best cameraman, not really. 01:12:15.940 --> 01:12:19.720 We got, we got a lot and we got plenty of ideas. 01:12:19.920 --> 01:12:24.240 I'm, I'm spitting balling right now, but maybe we can get you, Jeff. 01:12:24.680 --> 01:12:27.520 Um, well, you don't have a headset, right? 01:12:27.700 --> 01:12:28.260 I do. 01:12:28.320 --> 01:12:33.260 I've, I've got a, uh, I've got a meta, meta three quest or whatever. 01:12:33.800 --> 01:12:34.600 I've got one. 01:12:34.720 --> 01:12:40.300 I was telling them, I don't use it as much as I used to, but man, I, I would, I would 01:12:40.300 --> 01:12:42.920 say, let me jump into, put it on. 01:12:43.060 --> 01:12:48.880 Let me jump into VRChat now, man, I'll do whatever I can do, uh, there and tie it in. 01:12:48.940 --> 01:12:52.280 But yeah, let's, uh, we can talk offline and, and, and figure it out. 01:12:52.340 --> 01:12:55.200 All right, Jeff, I'm going to do one more and I'm going to bring it in for a landing. 01:13:01.380 --> 01:13:07.000 Jeff, we could actually put you, uh, I would love to take you on a backseat flight of, uh, 01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:11.360 number seven, where you actually can be in the back of my jet and we can actually showing 01:13:11.360 --> 01:13:13.040 you what it's like to be up there with us. 01:13:13.240 --> 01:13:16.700 And you get to see everything from a first person, uh, you know, perspective. 01:13:17.320 --> 01:13:18.120 That'd be fun. 01:13:18.600 --> 01:13:20.860 I, I, yeah, I actually would love to do that next time. 01:13:22.040 --> 01:13:22.400 Absolutely. 01:13:22.780 --> 01:13:23.560 Love to have you. 01:13:23.660 --> 01:13:23.900 All right. 01:13:23.900 --> 01:13:25.560 One more, Jeff, and then I'm bringing it in. 01:13:33.320 --> 01:13:34.920 We're behind the jet here. 01:13:35.780 --> 01:13:37.320 Let me get up a little bit. 01:13:37.960 --> 01:13:38.640 Where'd he go? 01:13:40.260 --> 01:13:41.360 Let me try to. 01:13:48.120 --> 01:14:03.080 The best part of this stream so far has been that dark voids mom or dad has not walked 01:14:03.080 --> 01:14:05.260 in the room asking to talk to him. 01:14:05.360 --> 01:14:05.860 So thankful. 01:14:05.980 --> 01:14:06.640 You have no idea. 01:14:07.080 --> 01:14:11.340 I was, I was really hoping that was going to happen so I could mock you publicly for that. 01:14:11.420 --> 01:14:18.780 But, uh, all right, what journey rocker has is enough right now. 01:14:19.900 --> 01:14:20.700 Sorry about that. 01:14:20.720 --> 01:14:22.080 That was my family calling. 01:14:22.160 --> 01:14:23.680 I just got, no, no worries, man. 01:14:23.720 --> 01:14:25.360 That's just, I'm just making fun. 01:14:28.800 --> 01:14:29.380 Oh yeah. 01:14:29.580 --> 01:14:30.940 Still slow pass. 01:14:33.000 --> 01:14:34.220 I'll try to get this. 01:14:35.180 --> 01:14:35.920 Oh yeah. 01:14:38.120 --> 01:14:40.420 Was he upside down on that or was he right side up? 01:14:41.180 --> 01:14:41.820 No, he was right. 01:14:41.820 --> 01:14:42.740 He was right side up. 01:14:42.860 --> 01:14:43.080 Okay. 01:14:43.180 --> 01:14:43.360 Yeah. 01:14:43.460 --> 01:14:46.800 But I almost, I'm sure my headset trying to go over my head like that. 01:14:50.740 --> 01:14:55.660 Well, Jeff, if you want to continue talking to us and potentially do a part two with the 01:14:55.660 --> 01:15:02.420 Holy aces, I mean, we're, we're more than welcome to love the idea of continuing to talk 01:15:02.420 --> 01:15:02.740 to you. 01:15:03.040 --> 01:15:03.480 Yeah. 01:15:03.640 --> 01:15:09.900 And, and on my side, uh, you know, whatever, and, and flat cap Layton knows this as well. 01:15:09.980 --> 01:15:12.080 He does, he's doing a lot of work on the VR side. 01:15:12.660 --> 01:15:18.940 Um, whatever we can do to, uh, to help you guys ministry, um, you know, count us, count 01:15:18.940 --> 01:15:19.660 us in for that. 01:15:19.740 --> 01:15:25.600 Uh, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a big supporter and a big fan of Holy aces, which you all are all 01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:31.700 about and, uh, am, am happy to help however I can, but yeah, let's plan on doing something 01:15:31.700 --> 01:15:32.220 soon. 01:15:32.900 --> 01:15:35.540 And, uh, yeah, we'll, uh, we'll go from there. 01:15:36.420 --> 01:15:40.940 Probably a little technical, do I get to see a landing here? 01:15:41.220 --> 01:15:43.260 Oh, don't worry about the technical difficulties. 01:15:43.380 --> 01:15:43.920 We'll edit that. 01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:44.880 Let me see a landing. 01:15:47.880 --> 01:15:48.240 Secretly. 01:15:48.280 --> 01:15:51.040 I was hoping for a crash landing, but a safe landing will work. 01:15:51.100 --> 01:15:57.100 Is that bad? 01:15:57.160 --> 01:16:02.360 Does that make me a bad person that I, that I want to see flames really want to, no, no, 01:16:02.360 --> 01:16:02.780 no, no, no. 01:16:02.780 --> 01:16:03.460 Don't do that. 01:16:03.520 --> 01:16:04.200 Don't do that. 01:16:04.200 --> 01:16:05.840 They always want to see the big one. 01:16:06.500 --> 01:16:07.940 Oh, we're about to see it. 01:16:08.940 --> 01:16:10.360 You guys are about to see it. 01:16:10.360 --> 01:16:12.780 I'm having to twist and turn so bad right now. 01:16:13.080 --> 01:16:17.440 Did he land and then take off like immediately before he had on off the taxi? 01:16:17.640 --> 01:16:17.880 All right. 01:16:18.180 --> 01:16:20.380 So what he just did was a test and go. 01:16:20.740 --> 01:16:23.840 Now it's what happens when VR chat doesn't want to cooperate. 01:16:27.520 --> 01:16:27.960 What? 01:16:28.040 --> 01:16:30.340 I'm just getting up back in the air just to crash for Jeff. 01:16:30.800 --> 01:16:31.680 Just for him. 01:16:33.140 --> 01:16:36.720 I don't think it's on the jets in front of you. 01:16:36.800 --> 01:16:38.280 Focus on the jets in front of you, Hoku. 01:16:39.840 --> 01:16:41.200 Like just, just right here. 01:16:41.340 --> 01:16:42.060 Here I come. 01:16:42.300 --> 01:16:42.620 Yep. 01:16:42.900 --> 01:16:43.600 Oh no. 01:16:44.600 --> 01:16:45.200 Oh no. 01:16:45.280 --> 01:16:45.720 Those were. 01:16:48.100 --> 01:16:49.380 They all had a pretty display. 01:16:49.920 --> 01:16:51.120 Well, now we're just. 01:16:51.720 --> 01:16:53.240 The other one was flying. 01:16:55.920 --> 01:16:57.680 Oh my goodness. 01:16:58.000 --> 01:17:01.020 They almost landed perfectly on there and then void right here. 01:17:01.020 --> 01:17:03.020 The best part of the steak was. 01:17:03.080 --> 01:17:04.140 No explosion. 01:17:04.580 --> 01:17:06.400 It was just a ricochet. 01:17:06.740 --> 01:17:07.840 Oh my goodness. 01:17:07.940 --> 01:17:11.280 And no dark voids were killed in the making of this video. 01:17:11.780 --> 01:17:12.980 Oh my gosh. 01:17:13.740 --> 01:17:14.500 All right. 01:17:14.500 --> 01:17:16.560 Well, I'm blacking out after that. 01:17:16.640 --> 01:17:18.260 That was, that was very funny. 01:17:19.540 --> 01:17:25.280 Dark void, uh, Hoku, uh, bricks, uh, journey rocker. 01:17:25.440 --> 01:17:29.360 I'm probably mixing up call signs somewhere in there, but you know, I love you guys. 01:17:29.740 --> 01:17:31.880 Thank you so much for being a part of this. 01:17:31.920 --> 01:17:35.260 Thank you for what you're doing, what you're doing for the kingdom and, and hanging out with 01:17:35.260 --> 01:17:35.840 us tonight. 01:17:35.840 --> 01:17:38.460 Uh, at least tonight for me, but I gotta go. 01:17:38.700 --> 01:17:44.180 And so for the video of this recording, can you do that? 01:17:44.560 --> 01:17:44.760 Yeah. 01:17:44.760 --> 01:17:50.180 I'll send you the whole thing and then, um, we'll, we'll edit it and, uh, off, off some 01:17:50.180 --> 01:17:53.960 of the things and I'll put it on, um, put it on YouTube in the next couple of days. 01:17:54.060 --> 01:17:55.660 I'll just, okay. 01:17:55.940 --> 01:17:56.220 Yeah. 01:17:56.220 --> 01:17:59.860 I'll send it to you here in a little bit, but for dark void and, and, uh, the Holy Ace 01:17:59.860 --> 01:18:01.460 crowd, this is Jeff with the church digital. 01:18:01.920 --> 01:18:03.120 Thanks for hanging out with us today. 01:18:03.140 --> 01:18:04.600 We'll see you next time on the show. 01:18:04.840 --> 01:18:05.380 Y'all have a good one. 01:18:05.460 --> 01:18:05.800 Take care. 01:18:06.000 --> 01:18:06.160 Bye.