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 oh hey i got so distracted uh enjoying the music i didn't even see the countdown get to zero

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 i have no idea i guess i was maybe five or six seconds late on that transition

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 hey it's jeff at the church digital thanks for coming in today let me get my audio up a little

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 bit to make sure i'm good and things are looking great here today i uh i'm a little flustered

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 today coming into the stream i'll be honest it was uh i was off site i was actually working at a

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 physical church uh this morning at some meetings and uh i don't have a setup at the physical church

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 to stream yet and and so kind of rushed home got stuck in traffic let ai do the driving uh so that

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 i could email and and do some things which is not allowed you're not allowed to email while tesla's

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 driving full self-driving like they don't like that uh but uh i i did it anyway just trying to

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 to get everything set for today but hey we're doing a live stream today episode i want to say it's 356

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 356 with the church digital i'm excited about this conversation today we've got marian camacho coming

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 on from cv global christian vision and i i i think this is the first time we've had somebody from

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 christian vision on the show that's embarrassing because i've got some friends in that space just

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 never actually had anybody on so excited to talk to to marian a little bit christian vision

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 hear about some things that they've got coming up with digital day but before we get there

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 yeah i i got i got flat cap saying hype and and listen this is quite literally ladies and gentlemen

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 this is the thing that i need from you today uh we've got to get the word out on the digital

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 missionary conferences the digital missionary summits that we've got coming up this fall uh here in

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 america of course or wherever it is this is september and october we've got four conferences coming up

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 starting september 17th we're two weeks away from the first conference and and we just need help

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 organically getting the word out september 17th you know is the uh digital neighborhoods conference

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 we're excited about that this digital discipleship digital church planting what does that look like

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 we'll be talking about that september 17th wednesday september 17th digital neighborhoods

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 september 24th is our christ-centered recovery conference control out recover uh october 1st is

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 our european conference european summit uh european digital missionary summit and then october 8th

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 wednesday is our uh gaming digital missionary gaming summit now all four of those are free

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 online conference is incredible we've we've actually had close to a thousand people already register

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 across all the conferences which is awesome we're excited about that and excited to see what god's

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 going to do through that situation but we do need your help listen if you're watching this you

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 already know me you know the church digital you're already registered for those conferences and yes

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 the great white beard is here there is lots going on that is true but we need your help to get the word

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 out and so here's what i'm asking you to do friends of the stream i'm asking you i'm typing while i'm

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 doing this which is very hard but i need you to go to share dot missionary dot digital i did it

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 no typos i'm very proud of myself share dot missionary dot digital there's media kits

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 there's graphics there's pre-designed uh posts social media posts

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 uh you know things that you can use for stories whatever platform you're on

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 here's all i'm asking get the word out on these conferences

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 and help get connected to other people that might be interested

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 in doing what you're doing sharing jesus online being uh digital missionaries digital discipleship

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 evangelism being involved in creating a movement

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 of discipleship in digital and virtual spaces we even got our

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 our good friend on today right now mr pete

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 is broadcasting that in virtual reality

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 right now in virtual reality mr pete we got to talk about how you're going to do this

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 do the conferences in um in big screen as well

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 but the heart of this ladies and gentlemen is i need your help

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 to get the word out check out that uh graphic share the website share dot missionary dot digital

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 and help us organically get some people

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 uh more people connected to these conferences we were honestly

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 we were hoping for 2500 across all four conferences

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 we still got time we still got some energy uh but organically we we need your help to do that

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 please share dot missionary dot digital you know what thursday i'm gonna try to do a second stream

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 walking into the other conference i did i did a stream where i really featured

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 each of the conferences and the speakers and the breakouts and talked more about that

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 i'm probably gonna do that i i tried to figure out time

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 based on just chaos right now but we'll figure it out

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 we're excited about the conferences and and what's happening uh with them

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 cool so hey let's uh let's transition

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 i i you know i need some sort of like transition bell alarm button something i can push that'd be like

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 all right announcements over let's get back to the show

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 um so all of a sudden i suddenly am picturing the two muppets in the balcony like the old guys

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 yelling at me to shut up and get on with the thing i don't i what are their names

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 is somebody the guy that looks like white beard and the guy that looks you know more like a shaved me

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 um i i don't know we've got some people watching in uh in chat right now mr pete i see already uh and

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 the soul i appreciate you being on here uh melanie flat cap uh there's tom anybody else that's watching

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 hey thanks for coming on um feel free to throw comments during the show of course you're welcome to do that

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 give that thumbs up or subscribe if you haven't uh but let's get into the show here talking uh with

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 age excuse me uh with marion so hey marion how are you doing today i'm good how are you doing good i

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 started to call you awkwardly adrian which you are not but that was my last meeting okay i am

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 not uh i'm not mentally functioning like i should uh tom has called it out correctly it is staller and

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 and waldorf waldorf the two muppets are you into muppets at all um marion no no i mean no i think i

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 watched him when i was a kid a little bit but not really not not not not at all there there's actually

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 it's it's a big deal in muppet culture where they they destroyed the disney removed the the

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 muppet theater in in disney hollywood studios and now the muppets are moving to rock and roller coaster

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 and and like the the muppet community is up in arms over the whole thing like it is it is a it is a

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 travesty but you don't care and and probably the honestly the rest of like america doesn't care

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 or the world doesn't care either but i'm just telling you like from from up from a muppet

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 standpoint like kermit's kermit's feeling a little pain right now so i don't know where to go from

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 here uh i just kind of painted myself in a corner hey thanks for coming on the show marion uh tell

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 all right so your work for work for cv global uh excited to learn about that but tell us a little

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 bit about yourself and and how you ended up working for a a global christian missions organization

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 what's what's your story yeah well first thank you for having me on i love what you're doing here i

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 love the community that you're creating um i did some youtube stalking so i'm trying to catch up a

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 little bit so i think it's great um but yeah as as far as i go i've i've been a christian as long as i

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 can remember i remember accepting jesus when i was really young like five or six on the edge of my bed

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 with my mom right there praying with me um but i would say i really didn't surrender my life and start

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 following jesus until my early 20s um and that was right around when i met my husband in the church

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 um and then today we have four kids they all love god uh thank you jesus and they love his house and so

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 um we are proud parents and um yeah as far as as far as i go my background is actually in tv news

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 and so i graduated college broadcast journalism went straight into tv news here in albuquerque new mexico

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 um and was executive producing our morning show when um i got a call from our pastor here in town

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 and that's where my ministry full-time ministry journey started and so i was a creative director

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 for a while um and then god called my husband and i to england where we spent a year and a half doing

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 ministry in england and that is where i divinely encountered um cv and have been with them for

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 about a year and a half now loving my job i love the people i get to work with the multicultural setting

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 is amazing um so yeah that's kind of the short cliff's note version of my life that's beautiful

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 yeah i i have my degree is in radio tv film as well um and so it's a fun fun fun memories right there i

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 had a professor tell me once jeff you don't watch enough television you need to watch more

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 um like it was it was i when another prof called it the uh what did he call it the uh cocktail party

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 uh degree because you know lots of like ancillary things that really don't matter if you're at a

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 cocktail party you could tell phenomenal stories about actors and actresses and television and tech

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 but nobody really cares uh but at least you put it to purpose uh centered around uh broadcast journalism

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 so so good for you what were you what were you doing in england um so well we went and

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 we knew like for about 10 years before we moved that god was calling us over there we had no idea what

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 that looked like and a lot of times that's what our journey looks like with god you you feel like

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 he's pulling you and calling you to something but what is that so church planting missionaries we

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 didn't know and so we ended up um going on staff at a church there um and just kind of helping through

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 a period of growth and amazing church there in england and um i was on full-time staff at cv

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 and so yeah we're there and then god called us back home so now we're back here in albuquerque new

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 mexico um with family and friends that's beautiful i uh to be honest i'm kind of praying god's going to

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 call me to england um that that is uh my daughter right now she's a she's a junior in uh high school

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 and her number one college that she wants to go to is a school that's outside of london uh that's a

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 really big engineering school and um i think if my daughter ends up going to college to london i feel

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 like god's going to call us to to england as well and maybe live over there for for a couple years

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 i don't know my my son's not too excited about that he's he's a couple years behind her but we'll

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 we'll have to we'll have to discern god's calling in in the midst of that but and that's the thing i mean

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 honestly you know even you may know working i'm sure you're working some level remotely because

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 cv global is global but um it's the beauty of what we do we can do what we're doing pretty much

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 anywhere and uh and and and rocket so well well cool tell us tell us a little bit uh about what

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 you're what you do specifically with with cv global and maybe what is even christian vision let's back up

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 with that what is christian vision and then what's your role with it that's great so yeah cv um started

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 in 1988 um by lord robert edmiston and his wife tracy so he was on the house of lords in um in england

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 and um it's really just centered if i could sum it up it's all about evangelism so we're reaching

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 unreached people groups around the world we are equipping christians just everyday believers how do i

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 share my faith how do i tell people about jesus so how do we partner with individuals in sharing their

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 faith and equipping them to do that and then also equipping the church so we have resources if you go

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 on our website cvglobal.co resources courses um training we also have testimony videos just of how

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 god is uh encountering people around the world and so the the bullseye is just evangelism and how we

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 outwork that is in a lot of different ways um but mainly it's just staying on the forefront in the

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 front lines of innovation and how are we harnessing technology and being innovative in the ways that

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 we're reaching people and i'm going to talk about some of that when we talk about digital day but

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 um not getting left behind as the times change and um you know the digital times change and we get into

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 ai and even quantum computing what does that look like for missions and uh we don't want to be left

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 behind because our mission is the most important one and that's to share jesus with people who don't

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 know him and so um how do we do that and staying on the front lines that's what we're we're all about

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 yeah that's that's such a that's such a great calling right to we we've got this this massive

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 opportunity we've we've got this incredible responsibility that that's given to us and

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 yeah i mean just think over the past years uh covid accelerated so much and digital community

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 explodes artificial intelligence is is all over the place like we're not even talking about

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 quantum much yet but they're already carving out what that means in the grand scheme of things

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 and and how how are we bringing the gospel influence into that space and utilizing these tools it was

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 it was interesting i was actually talking with a a pastor the other day and sharing a little bit of

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 of like what we're what we're doing sharing jesus online and really challenging people to be missional and

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 digital virtual spaces and and you know he was funny he the pastor immediately reflected back into the um

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 uh the the bearing of the talents and and it's like you know the the you're you're

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 you're you're not hiding the talent you're using the talent and you're using the the the technology the

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 skill set the influence the culture the tools that are available to do that and and i love it's one

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 of the things that i love about cv global is you guys are really challenging opening up having those

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 hard conversations using your influence to really lead out uh digitally and and virtually into that space and

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 so that that that's that's beautiful what's your what's your specific role with um uh cv global

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 yeah i am the head of communications

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 la-di-da-da cool we're moving up in the world man i thought was uh thank you glad you're here for

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 maybe i should have known that in advance walking in i i just i got an email i didn't read the

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 signature but uh very very cool so and uh so you're you're what do you like what's your basic role uh

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 what does that like look like for uh for you at cv global what's your nine to five look like

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 it's a great question it's um so we're we're splitting it into internal and external communications

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 mostly so it's we have more than you know just around 350 employees around the world so how are

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 we communicating to them internally constantly having this this point of contact and a touch with

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 our people so that culture is strong that we're all on the same page what are we doing where are we

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 going um so that's very important and it and it just involves a lot of things so a lot of internal

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 communication and then external would be um just obviously anything that is facing the public so

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 our social media channels um youtube any sort of testimonies that are going out and then as well as

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 our website so all of the articles and training and courses that we do partnering with our our platform

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 team to make sure that our voice is consistent that our tone our brand and that we're representing

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 ourselves um in a clear way out to the world i gotta i gotta imagine getting getting alignment

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 and and quality control and those things are hard with a 350 employee global organization

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 that's a hundred percent remote there there's a there's a headquarters in australia i'm trying

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 to remember like specifically how the organization is structured yeah so we have we have um a variety

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 of locations actually around the world like physical location so most of our employees would be um within

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 a physical location okay and so our yeah our main um office is actually in soli hole in england so

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 that's uh okay where i was when i was in england and then yeah in australia cape town um zambia

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 miami dallas we're kind of just spread all over the place but yeah a variety of a variety of locations

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 yeah it's it's funny i i know the people in cape town um at least some of the people in cape town

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 i've talked to some people in australia i'm here i live in miami and and i've i've never had any

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 connection with anybody in miami so if you know if you maybe maybe you can introduce me to somebody

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 that that's working here locally would love love to connect up with with them i'm guessing miami

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 does a lot of work in latin and south america yes yeah of course i mean that that's that's the

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 that's the bread and butter here of of miami well cool and so you guys are at the cutting edge of

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 technology and evangelism trying to connect the two together having the hard conversations always

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 looking forward uh to what's ahead and and you're you're doing this digital day coming up in in in

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 november talk talk to me a little bit about what this what this looks like yeah so digital day is a

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 one day basically conference um where we bring in a lot of different speakers from a lot of different

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 areas and backgrounds and it really it's a unique space because we're talking like church leaders

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 and pastors technologists futurists mission practitioners bringing them all in the same room

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 so it's a it's an in-person and also a streamed event which i'll i'll get into a little bit too

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 um which is neat but it's it's this unique space where we're you know we have church conferences

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 we have missions conferences we have um tech conferences but how do we blend the three bring

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 them together in the same room um with the same mission to reach people for jesus and so that's

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 that's like the big overall of digital day is this unique space across you know cross denominations

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 we have all different kinds of denominations in the room um just looking at what are we dealing with

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 in the digital world in technology what's coming up what's happening now and what is next what's on the

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 horizon and how can we harness that to reach more people that's that's beautiful is the the format is

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 more like keynote is is it like a ted talk short is is it dialogue like what what's actually happening

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 during the day yeah i would say both and so it's a it's a good mixture of like keynote speakers um but

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 you know shorter so maybe like shorter format and then we've got a few panels happening and then

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 throughout the day you know because we're big on partnerships you probably know nick parker

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 um in south africa so we're big on okay let's not you know just bring everybody in the room for the

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 sake of bring everybody in the room but let's talk about these different communities that are around the

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 world that you could be a part of and so we'll be highlighting different um communities throughout

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 the day that people can actually practically jump into right there and be a part of so yeah keynote

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 speakers panels we'll have some people actually zooming in live on the day of that couldn't be with us

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 but we absolutely wanted to hear from them um so yeah it'll be it's dynamic it's fun lots of networking

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 opportunities as well so um just a great thing to be a part of awesome so well let's go ahead and put

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 this this slide up and so digital day 25 um this is in london as well as online and so it's it's a

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 physical london event uh on november 6th um wow it's interesting like you know it's it's funny i'll go

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 and ask the question um it's it's a a physical event talking about digital evangelism and digital

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 culture anytime i talk about doing physical events somebody looks at me like jeff you're a digital guy

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 why are you doing physical and so let me let me flip the script on you you're you're digital people

00:20:44.180 --> 00:20:52.180
 why do a physical event so there's just something i think about coming face to face with people

00:20:52.180 --> 00:20:59.320
 and so a big part of digital day is creating like that unique space where i i might never i mean i'll

00:20:59.320 --> 00:21:06.100
 admit i i am like church girl to the heart i might never meet a technologist or have any idea what

00:21:06.100 --> 00:21:11.400
 they're talking about but there's got to be this bridge that we could build in just meeting face

00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:16.960
 to face having that conversation and who knows the god connections that can come out of of the room

00:21:16.960 --> 00:21:20.820
 when you're meeting people face to face and you know what honestly the same thing can happen online

00:21:20.820 --> 00:21:27.060
 um but there's there's just something you know to be said about looking people in the eye connecting

00:21:27.060 --> 00:21:32.760
 with them being in the room feeling the excitement in the room as people are talking about these new

00:21:32.760 --> 00:21:37.680
 things that are happening um in the digital realm and how we can be a part of it and you know looking

00:21:37.680 --> 00:21:42.560
 to the person next to you during breaks and hey i loved this what do you think and having that back

00:21:42.560 --> 00:21:48.940
 and forth so yeah we want to just we want to create that space that physical space but then not forsake

00:21:48.940 --> 00:21:57.140
 the digital as well so more people can be involved yeah totally can uh can picture that uh i actually i do love

00:21:57.140 --> 00:22:05.060
 the idea of of hybrid events um i i think gathering to people together is uh is is an incredible

00:22:05.060 --> 00:22:10.820
 opportunity to do physically like we don't it's interesting my senior leadership we talk about it

00:22:10.820 --> 00:22:15.340
 all the time we've never actually been in the same physical space at the same time with with the church

00:22:15.340 --> 00:22:20.860
 digital and so we're actually right right now like i'm implement we're putting together a retreat

00:22:20.860 --> 00:22:26.160
 to bring all the our our leadership together like for the first time the board board of directors

00:22:26.160 --> 00:22:31.560
 together and so that we we can be together in the same space because there is benefits to being

00:22:31.560 --> 00:22:38.180
 together in physical space now i we don't have the luxury of doing it like on a regular basis but to do

00:22:38.180 --> 00:22:44.420
 it uh occasionally uh is is beautiful and so like a networking thing to be able to connect together in

00:22:44.420 --> 00:22:50.380
 physical space is great but the reach of cv global like you know not everybody can get to london england

00:22:50.380 --> 00:22:57.720
 i i frankly i wish i i could get to london england on on november 6th but i'll definitely be leaning in

00:22:57.720 --> 00:23:05.300
 in online and so what is that what is the physical what is the online experience like look like um yeah

00:23:05.300 --> 00:23:11.760
 is how similar is it to to like a webinar i kind of what's the format digitally for it

00:23:11.760 --> 00:23:20.280
 yeah so um we have like dedicated live stream hosts that will be interacting with our uh with our stream

00:23:20.280 --> 00:23:25.900
 attendees on the day of so what that'll look like we'll just be you know asking questions engaging

00:23:25.900 --> 00:23:31.780
 and then hopefully we'll have some opportunities to even bring some of the speakers over during some

00:23:31.780 --> 00:23:37.460
 of the breaks to you know maybe just dive a little bit deeper into a subject so that would be something

00:23:37.460 --> 00:23:44.720
 unique for the stream experience that might not be in person you know and until later online um but

00:23:44.720 --> 00:23:50.420
 yeah it would look like just a lot of interaction with moderators with other attendees through the

00:23:50.420 --> 00:23:55.400
 chat and then with live stream hosts and then um we have you know some ways to interact for people

00:23:55.400 --> 00:24:01.200
 through through asking questions even to speakers you know through a thing called slido where they can

00:24:01.200 --> 00:24:07.160
 interact and ask their questions um so just simple things like that where we want to try to make you

00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:12.680
 feel like you're in the room as much as possible love it yeah love love me some slido too that's that's

00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:19.800
 very cool yeah um you know it's online getting a getting a behind the scenes view very popular uh getting

00:24:19.800 --> 00:24:26.100
 getting something exclusive uh added bonus for since they're not there uh love that too and and and

00:24:26.100 --> 00:24:31.440
 helping people find the voice so that they're represented that sounds exciting so who do you

00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:37.900
 have speaking at the event gosh i'm so excited um we have a lot of amazing speakers this year

00:24:37.900 --> 00:24:41.940
 and i'll just maybe highlight a few of them i think we might have a slide of some of them but

00:24:41.940 --> 00:24:47.760
 um so al gordon we're kicking the day off um actually going to hear from our managing director

00:24:47.760 --> 00:24:55.320
 first heinz um who's going to just give more insight into cv who we are what we do how people can get

00:24:55.320 --> 00:25:00.220
 involved and so we're going to kick off the day um with him and then we're going to hear from al gordon

00:25:00.220 --> 00:25:07.140
 who is a pastor and leader at saint church in london and um if you've never heard of pastor al gordon

00:25:07.140 --> 00:25:11.900
 i would just encourage you to look look into him maybe follow him on social media because

00:25:11.900 --> 00:25:20.120
 um in my opinion he's just he's on the front lines of creativity and innovation when it comes to

00:25:20.120 --> 00:25:25.280
 the local church so what does that look like why should we be leaning into these types of things

00:25:25.320 --> 00:25:33.220
 so he's going to start the day just from a pastoral and theological perspective on why we as christians

00:25:33.220 --> 00:25:38.420
 should be paying attention to what's happening in the in the digital world and these advancements that

00:25:38.420 --> 00:25:42.980
 are happening so that's really exciting it just kind of sets a tone for the day um and then we have

00:25:42.980 --> 00:25:48.080
 people like june marita who's going to talk about ai and the future of ai what that means for mission

00:25:48.080 --> 00:25:53.900
 nick moretti from brazil is going to be there so we're really excited um alex she is going to talk

00:25:53.900 --> 00:26:00.540
 about quantum computing and um yeah you just say quantum computing to me and i'm like whoo but i'm

00:26:00.540 --> 00:26:07.040
 sure a lot of people know way more than i do um but he's going to talk about um how you know we a lot

00:26:07.040 --> 00:26:12.340
 of us we think ai this is the future but really quantum computing is right on right on the heels

00:26:12.340 --> 00:26:17.960
 and is gonna gonna take over from what i hear so what does that mean for the mission world what does

00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:22.820
 that mean for church pastors and leaders and technologists and so we're super excited to hear

00:26:22.820 --> 00:26:30.720
 from him and then even we have a guy talking about um crypto payments so how do we utilize crypto to pay

00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:37.560
 people in the mission field yeah in hard to reach areas and so just really neat conversations and that's

00:26:37.560 --> 00:26:42.000
 what you know digital day is designed to spark conversations and that's what we're hoping it does

00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:49.100
 yeah i mean it's interesting even the crypto um by the way quantum oh my gosh like trying to

00:26:49.100 --> 00:26:56.240
 understand and a what some of this technology is like like i you know i i am my futurist i don't know

00:26:56.240 --> 00:27:03.400
 but like you know i love examining and being on the cutting edge and quantum how you know is hard

00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:10.220
 enough to process on its own the missional implications of quantum and how we need to start

00:27:10.220 --> 00:27:17.340
 thinking about using this and preparing to go down this way like that's exciting to me um yeah you know

00:27:17.340 --> 00:27:24.220
 the i'm just kind of overstating here a little bit to be silly but like the hey here's how to do a bible

00:27:24.220 --> 00:27:29.080
 study online you know it's like you know i've done that for freaking 25 years like that's that's boring

00:27:29.080 --> 00:27:34.400
 conversation let's let's go over here and explore like the the the untapped resources of quantum

00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:39.600
 computing and and what that looks like so that that's beautiful that aside i mean to be honest right

00:27:39.600 --> 00:27:45.400
 now i'm struggling uh we're organizationally we're trying to figure out how to get money to some of our

00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:51.080
 people that are in the field you know over there and and we've been been wrestling with uh the the

00:27:51.080 --> 00:27:56.120
 crypto conversation even even internally of whether or not we should be doing that and moving in that

00:27:56.120 --> 00:28:01.540
 direction and so it intrigues me even that that you're you're you're talking about that and prepping

00:28:01.540 --> 00:28:09.660
 that so really interesting i love where i love how you're you're you know thinking ahead and kind of

00:28:09.660 --> 00:28:15.380
 helping the church helping missionaries uh wrestle with some of the stuff it's interesting i've got bob

00:28:15.380 --> 00:28:21.540
 here watching the show hey bob uh bob saying in many cases the church is where innovation goes to die

00:28:21.540 --> 00:28:26.420
 unfortunately that's the reality uh you know maybe a little bit more in the west than the

00:28:26.420 --> 00:28:32.020
 than some i don't know i don't want to say that but um it it is true that that there is there is a

00:28:32.020 --> 00:28:37.880
 little bit of that but what's interesting to me and and i want to i want to poke you on this a little

00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:46.240
 bit see if if you're interested mary and if you can contract with this um it's like i used to work

00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:53.780
 with churches a lot and and i to be honest bob's stance echoes a lot of my experience working with

00:28:53.780 --> 00:29:01.000
 churches but there's there's something different because you know you're a missions organization a

00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:09.160
 global missions organization that is that is not weighed down by some of the church traditions

00:29:09.160 --> 00:29:14.880
 church ecclesiology i don't know what with the church but you don't necessarily have that it doesn't

00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:20.720
 seem to me that missions organizations have that weight they're able to be more aggressive missionally

00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:24.840
 you know there's there's actually a pastor here in america uh over over at life church craig

00:29:24.840 --> 00:29:29.840
 or shell that says everything short of sin should be done and um and you know i don't see churches

00:29:29.840 --> 00:29:35.780
 acting that way but i see missions organizations like yours and and you know some of your uh

00:29:35.780 --> 00:29:44.060
 contemporaries that are leading the way in innovation in in thinking outside the box in in these things and

00:29:44.060 --> 00:29:51.740
 so um how how has that been for you kind of kind of shifting and and and running and working with an

00:29:51.740 --> 00:29:57.340
 organization that's running and and trying to figure out how to communicate effectively like talk a

00:29:57.340 --> 00:30:04.380
 little bit about the innovation side that that you see through cv global yeah i think that's great um

00:30:04.380 --> 00:30:13.440
 because you know i was in the church full time before going to cv and unfortunately we saw a lot of

00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:21.600
 um what he was talking about when covet hit because churches were forced to innovate and to go online

00:30:21.600 --> 00:30:29.380
 to stay um engaged with people and we unfortunately saw a lot of churches die um because they could just

00:30:29.380 --> 00:30:35.700
 couldn't keep up with it or they didn't want to um and so we were forced even to at our church which is

00:30:35.700 --> 00:30:42.100
 which is a large church and i would say at you know further a lot further ahead than where a lot of other

00:30:42.100 --> 00:30:48.500
 churches are we were forced to innovate to go online what's working you know to keep people engaged and

00:30:48.500 --> 00:30:54.040
 and i think the church just cannot be left behind and we have to know that the world is moving on

00:30:54.040 --> 00:31:00.020
 and it's going to keep moving on without us if we don't try to keep up so i think where where the

00:31:00.020 --> 00:31:06.560
 difference is is that we just have to constantly be asking the holy spirit for wisdom and discernment

00:31:06.560 --> 00:31:13.440
 and to guide us and and keeping jesus at the center and because some of these technologies can be scary

00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:19.420
 and i think that's why a lot of churches back off because uh you know ai oh i've seen a lot of people

00:31:19.420 --> 00:31:27.660
 do that and so how do we engage with ai from a biblical perspective and and keeping you know the wisdom and

00:31:27.660 --> 00:31:33.620
 discernment at the center and so with cv i mean that's that's what it is we keep jesus at the center

00:31:33.620 --> 00:31:40.240
 of all that we do and so we have you know the right things in place the right guardrails in place

00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:47.620
 um to make sure that we are navigating that world wisely and not getting left behind at the same time

00:31:47.620 --> 00:31:55.720
 yeah where did thank thank you for that like i do i love the idea of of obviously christ being at the center

00:31:55.720 --> 00:32:05.940
 uh but and and being like there needs to be someone that that's able to move ahead like to almost scout

00:32:05.940 --> 00:32:13.860
 um i'm i'm thinking like the old testament hey who's gonna go in and check out the the army and

00:32:13.860 --> 00:32:20.120
 and report back of of you know the the villain army the enemy and come back and report what's what's

00:32:20.120 --> 00:32:25.280
 going on and and and in many ways i i look at like you know the work that we're doing or the work that

00:32:25.280 --> 00:32:30.760
 cv global is doing where you're you're you're you're paving the road you're you're you're scouting

00:32:30.760 --> 00:32:38.540
 ahead you're reporting and and finding you're even experimenting with what's going on um you know i've i've

00:32:38.540 --> 00:32:43.700
 been i you know i've just i've been the guy in my life that that always seems to be ahead of of

00:32:43.700 --> 00:32:50.760
 the curve and um what what doesn't what we're what we're doing isn't what the the status quo is but

00:32:50.760 --> 00:32:56.620
 it it eventually it gets there you know like i i just it's just as a story i've told it before but i

00:32:56.620 --> 00:33:03.320
 had um i probably had a calling to be a digital pastor in the 90s like 1992 and uh you know i was

00:33:03.320 --> 00:33:08.780
 like when i graduated college 99 i thought oh hey some church in america is gonna like pay me to

00:33:08.780 --> 00:33:13.440
 pastor aol it's gonna be awesome somebody somebody's gonna hire me please please please and nobody would

00:33:13.540 --> 00:33:18.780
 hire me uh and so i was like screw it fine i'll do it myself and built a 40 000 person online community

00:33:18.780 --> 00:33:25.120
 and it was awesome but the idea of you know so many times in my life i've been told it doesn't

00:33:25.120 --> 00:33:30.560
 work that way you know my youth pastor who loved me who mentored me discipled me jeff no one's ever

00:33:30.560 --> 00:33:36.920
 gonna pay you to no church is ever gonna hire you to be a digital pastor my youth pastor jeff you

00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:42.720
 can't do community digital you can't do a church digital you gotta be in physical and and you know

00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:48.580
 organizations thankfully like you are really facilitating those conversations are challenging

00:33:48.580 --> 00:33:55.460
 the status quo are really kind of leading out in that as communications director i'm curious do you

00:33:55.460 --> 00:34:01.180
 because i i get i get the negative feedback i get the flack i get people that that want to like

00:34:01.180 --> 00:34:07.060
 like pick a fight now i'm i'm a small dog and i'm more accessible and so like i get it i understand

00:34:07.060 --> 00:34:13.960
 do you get like negative feedback do you get people that are like like challenging even at the cv global

00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:19.580
 at that the the large level that you are are people kind of negative and pushing back towards a lot of

00:34:19.580 --> 00:34:25.180
 this digital in event and christ and in that what's what's been your experience as communications

00:34:25.180 --> 00:34:32.180
 director yeah for sure um i mean i need to anytime you put yourself out there put things out there

00:34:32.180 --> 00:34:38.780
 people have something to say you know yeah so um we this is just an example but um one of our articles

00:34:38.780 --> 00:34:45.600
 online is about how we have used chatbots so you know you go onto a church website and maybe

00:34:45.600 --> 00:34:51.660
 maybe you're someone who's really struggling and it's the middle of the night and you reach out to

00:34:51.660 --> 00:34:59.060
 a local church on your website no one's responding because no one's awake right so how how can we use

00:34:59.060 --> 00:35:05.240
 you know something like a chatbot to just even begin the conversation and we've built it in a way that it's

00:35:05.240 --> 00:35:11.460
 you know it's as you know biblically sound and would respond the way that we would respond um but then

00:35:11.460 --> 00:35:17.600
 ultimately connect them to a human so you know we've had things like that where we've we've um you know

00:35:17.600 --> 00:35:23.740
 advertised for lack of a better word on facebook this um article that we've put out on how you can

00:35:23.740 --> 00:35:28.760
 build the chatbot and give give some ideas based on our experience on what we've done you know and

00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:34.440
 people asking how can you use you know chatbots can't have conversations with people they're not

00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:40.500
 christians you know it's it's evil that sort of thing so yeah we we do get a lot of that but but

00:35:40.500 --> 00:35:47.180
 we also get a lot of great things said awesome so you negative comes in you just you just brush it off

00:35:47.180 --> 00:35:55.220
 i love that pretty much i mean we respond we can but yeah you're responding grace and love i i as a

00:35:55.220 --> 00:36:01.620
 personal like i just i'm not there like i i i i probably i probably get more quote-unquote fights i don't

00:36:01.620 --> 00:36:04.700
 want to say fights but i'll probably get in more fights than i probably should on that but

00:36:04.700 --> 00:36:11.700
 i'm learning god is god even even last night god's like you know you gotta gotta let it go gotta let

00:36:11.700 --> 00:36:16.720
 it go yeah move it off i always say like write out the response and then that you would want to and

00:36:16.720 --> 00:36:23.380
 then delete it and delete it yeah there was there was uh there was someone who's a well-known christian

00:36:23.380 --> 00:36:31.540
 pastor um wrote a a very negative article about about my organization and and named me personally in it

00:36:31.540 --> 00:36:39.380
 and i wrote the i wrote the scathing reply scathing reply and uh i never i never press send the the

00:36:39.380 --> 00:36:45.200
 best posts are the ones that you never send you know or the worst posts i guess but yeah i i i can

00:36:45.200 --> 00:36:52.720
 totally relate to that that that's cool um where did the like so digital day where did the

00:36:52.720 --> 00:37:01.500
 where did the uh the impetus where where did the idea come from for for bringing everybody together

00:37:01.500 --> 00:37:06.820
 like how how does that that fit into the culture of of what you're trying to do with um

00:37:06.820 --> 00:37:14.560
 uh with cv global yeah i think it was just birth from conversations of starting to get people together

00:37:14.560 --> 00:37:19.560
 in the room who wouldn't normally get together um you know you wouldn't normally see church pastors

00:37:19.560 --> 00:37:24.120
 and leaders in a room with a bunch of futurists and technologists and having conversations you know

00:37:24.120 --> 00:37:30.120
 knowing that they have the same heartbeat for reaching people for for christ um you really wouldn't

00:37:30.120 --> 00:37:35.700
 see those people having dinner together and so how can we create that unique space um and so those

00:37:35.700 --> 00:37:42.300
 conversations started and digital day was birthed um 2022 i think was the first one and has just grown

00:37:42.300 --> 00:37:48.380
 every year because we're just seeing a hunger for people wanting to be a part of this a community you

00:37:48.380 --> 00:37:53.500
 know it's a it's a we like to say it's a community of communities yeah so let's let's bring together

00:37:53.500 --> 00:38:00.880
 these these larger groups of communities into one room to have that conversation no i i just i i love the

00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:07.660
 idea of partnering of of connecting of sharing of working together like that has been another thing

00:38:07.660 --> 00:38:14.320
 that i've i've seen not only in cv global but a lot of the other global organizations missions

00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:21.100
 organizations they seem far more you know willing to have the conversation share resources um invest time

00:38:21.100 --> 00:38:30.320
 and and energy into that and so like the the the missions arm just seemed of of of this just seems to be far more

00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:37.820
 open and the the ability to facilitate some of those conversations to bring people together at a global level

00:38:37.820 --> 00:38:48.060
 is is beautiful what's um you know i guess i don't want to get too far behind but like 26 27 this is this is something you all are investing in for the future

00:38:48.060 --> 00:38:57.380
 yes definitely awesome is is is london always the spot london is i don't know that forever will be but it is the

00:38:57.380 --> 00:39:04.200
 spot spot now we do yeah we do have um events throughout the year so earlier this year in may

00:39:04.200 --> 00:39:09.380
 um we had an event in tokyo called future now and it's kind of like a mini digital day

00:39:09.380 --> 00:39:15.400
 um but that was in tokyo yeah and we have we had one last year so hopefully we'll have more of those

00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:22.620
 kind of mini digital day events throughout the year um in 2026 awesome so you tell me i need to i need to

00:39:22.620 --> 00:39:32.680
 plan on flying to uh to london uh sometime 20 november 26 next year yes yep mark it down all right we'll

00:39:32.680 --> 00:39:39.420
 plan on that and if and if you're ever interested in doing something in miami i would love uh to

00:39:39.420 --> 00:39:45.460
 facilitate hope help uh be a part of support something down here tell the miami office we need

00:39:45.460 --> 00:39:52.260
 to do something for latin and south america i sure will that'd be beautiful um what's coming up for

00:39:52.260 --> 00:40:00.680
 for cv global anything else to announce to tease to talk about gosh no i think i think that's it i think

00:40:00.680 --> 00:40:05.660
 if you haven't checked out our website like i would encourage people to do that see what we're all about

00:40:05.660 --> 00:40:11.320
 i love what you you know you know shared about just sharing resources and that's what we're about just

00:40:11.320 --> 00:40:18.340
 free resourcing individuals churches to share their faith and so yeah check it out see how you can

00:40:18.340 --> 00:40:23.580
 partner with us that would be awesome but yeah digital day that's the big one coming up and hopefully more

00:40:23.580 --> 00:40:31.420
 in the future awesome yeah so check out the resources over at cv global.org uh digital day i'm sure is

00:40:31.420 --> 00:40:39.140
 featured uh prominently on the web page click on that get more information on the event uh it's 99

00:40:39.140 --> 00:40:51.960
 dollars for on for physical online is free cost online is free okay cool so register yeah online is free

00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:58.240
 i will be registering and uh being apart from afar and so if you can't make it to london join me

00:40:58.240 --> 00:41:05.620
 uh for digital day uh on november 6th excited about that what's coming up and uh if you want to

00:41:05.620 --> 00:41:12.660
 contribute to the jeff flies to london fund uh you can reach out directly and you can help me be there

00:41:12.660 --> 00:41:18.960
 in 26 i may or may not be kidding but we'll we'll figure that out so marion thank you for for jumping

00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:26.300
 on this congratulations hopefully on a on a successful launch of digital day 25 and uh thank you for what

00:41:26.300 --> 00:41:34.240
 you're doing for um uh through uh for digital missions and and uh evangelism and discipleship through cv global

00:41:34.240 --> 00:41:41.660
 we're very thankful for the support that cv global has shown tcd and other organizations and what you're

00:41:41.660 --> 00:41:47.740
 doing to champion the cause of evangelism in christ and the gospel in in digital and virtual spaces so

00:41:47.740 --> 00:41:54.560
 cool any any as we're wrapping up here marion any closing thoughts no just thank you thank you for

00:41:54.560 --> 00:41:59.880
 having me on thank you for the conversation and i look forward to seeing people online and in person

00:41:59.880 --> 00:42:05.940
 beautiful so hey we're gonna land the plane thank you marion for being here for for marion this is uh

00:42:05.940 --> 00:42:11.280
 jeff uh with the church digital thanks for hanging out on uh the podcast today and uh we'll see you next

00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:13.120
 time on the show y'all have a good one

