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[Jeff Reed] And we're going to start.

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[Jeff Reed] Hey, everybody, how's it going?

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[Jeff Reed] Welcome to episode 380 of Becoming the Church Digital.

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[Jeff Reed] I am Jeff.

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[Jeff Reed] Glad to be hanging out with you all today.

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[Jeff Reed] I am wearing my pirate hoodie, Pirates of the Caribbean.

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[Jeff Reed] I'm going to let the music kind of jam out in the background.

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[Jeff Reed] It's just going to be me today hanging out with y'all.

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[Jeff Reed] We had a change of schedule on some things.

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[Jeff Reed] We've got Chill Hop playing in the background.

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[Jeff Reed] And so it's my new go-to.

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[Jeff Reed] Rest in peace, Stream Beats.

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[Jeff Reed] He didn't actually die, but I can't find any of his stuff.

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[Jeff Reed] So life goes on.

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[Jeff Reed] But going to be hanging out today.

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[Jeff Reed] I want to talk a little bit on a topic.

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[Jeff Reed] off the top of my head.

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[Jeff Reed] I've been wrestling with some ideas.

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[Jeff Reed] And in this new season of my life, I've become a little more unfiltered.

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[Jeff Reed] I know, hard to believe, right?

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[Jeff Reed] But just some things that I've been wrestling with personally.

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[Jeff Reed] And I find it very therapeutic to wrestle with things.

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[Jeff Reed] on a live stream in front of other people.

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[Jeff Reed] And so looking forward to having this conversation with you all.

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[Jeff Reed] We do have some people hanging out with us on this stream.

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[Jeff Reed] First off, we've got Mr. Pete.

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[Jeff Reed] Mr. Pete, it's always good to see you, sir.

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[Jeff Reed] I am here.

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[Jeff Reed] Mr. Pete's a digital missionary, usually a big screen.

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[Jeff Reed] Not sure if today's getting broadcast in big screen or not.

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[Jeff Reed] But he's always good.

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[Jeff Reed] I'm first in line.

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[Jeff Reed] Glad I brought my little chair so I can sit while I wait patiently.

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[Jeff Reed] I appreciate that, Mr. Pete.

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[Jeff Reed] We also got Methos checking in from Ohio.

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[Jeff Reed] Gator wrestling next week.

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[Jeff Reed] I don't know if that's a shot, meaning you're coming down here to Florida.

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[Jeff Reed] Or if you are actually going to wrestle a gator next week.

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[Jeff Reed] I'm assuming there was a shot at Floridians like me and you're coming down to visit.

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[Jeff Reed] If so, great.

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[Jeff Reed] Glad you're coming down.

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[Jeff Reed] But no reason to get it personal.

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[Jeff Reed] I'm just saying.

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[Jeff Reed] You don't have to take shots.

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[Jeff Reed] By the way, I am playing some of the music just in the background.

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[Jeff Reed] I like having a little music in the background.

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[Jeff Reed] If it's too loud, let me know.

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[Jeff Reed] I can adjust the mix.

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[Jeff Reed] But I tried to get it.

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[Jeff Reed] Oh, enjoyed wrestling with things on stream.

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[Jeff Reed] Enjoyed wrestling with things.

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[Jeff Reed] Methos, your comedy is deep, man.

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[Jeff Reed] I don't get your stuff.

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[Jeff Reed] No, it's good.

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[Jeff Reed] That's not me being critical, but your callbacks is very good.

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[Jeff Reed] It just takes me a minute.

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[Jeff Reed] I'm a little slow.

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[Jeff Reed] on these things.

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[Jeff Reed] But thank you.

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[Jeff Reed] Keep it coming.

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[Jeff Reed] That's good.

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[Jeff Reed] And Mr. Pete is hanging out with us in big screen.

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[Jeff Reed] And so if you've got your VR headset on, you want to go look up Mr. Pete in big screen, go by, say hello.

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[Jeff Reed] It'd be a good time.

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[Jeff Reed] Good stuff, good stuff.

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[Jeff Reed] Hey, so some things that are happening this week.

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[Jeff Reed] We launched the Church Digital.

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[Jeff Reed] We launched our Bible study.

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[Jeff Reed] We're going through Scattered.

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[Jeff Reed] We're calling it Scattered, but we're going through 1 Peter.

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[Jeff Reed] And it's interesting.

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[Jeff Reed] We usually do it on Tuesdays.

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[Jeff Reed] Last week was Tuesdays.

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[Jeff Reed] We do the stream.

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[Jeff Reed] It's interesting.

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[Jeff Reed] Somebody's like, I don't understand what you're actually doing.

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[Jeff Reed] We do a stream on Tuesday.

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[Jeff Reed] We record the stream.

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[Jeff Reed] But the recording, it's not necessary for the Bible study, because the majority of the Bible study, all of the Bible study is really asynchronous.

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[Jeff Reed] And so we've got people that are doing the devotionals that are generated literally around the planet, going through and reading 1 Peter together right now.

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[Jeff Reed] And so, but we do the, so like last week, Tuesday, some of you, I believe, were on, we were on Twitch and reading 1 Peter 1, 1 to 12, right?

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[Jeff Reed] And we were supposed to do the next section yesterday, and I've been really sick.

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[Jeff Reed] I've been really, like, under the weather, and that's the reason for the hoodie.

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[Jeff Reed] I'm freezing in my house right now in Miami.

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[Jeff Reed] Never been freezing in Miami in my life, but the past couple days have just been really, really hard.

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[Jeff Reed] And so it was canceled yesterday.

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[Jeff Reed] We'll do tomorrow afternoon, 1 Peter 1, 13 to 25.

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[Jeff Reed] And you're welcome to come on and join us if you want to join the conversation live and help us literally write the Bible study material in the Bible study, doing the Bible study together.

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[Jeff Reed] You're welcome to do that.

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[Jeff Reed] Just reach out, DM me directly, and we would love for you to come in.

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[Jeff Reed] With the Bible study, we use a method called HERE.

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[Jeff Reed] the HEAR method, where we read Scripture and it's an acronym, highlight what's going on in the Scripture.

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[Jeff Reed] E is explain what's happening in the Scripture.

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[Jeff Reed] A is apply.

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[Jeff Reed] How does that Scripture apply to your life?

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[Jeff Reed] And R, what is God calling you?

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[Jeff Reed] What's your response?

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[Jeff Reed] What is God calling you to do?

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[Jeff Reed] And so that is...

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[Jeff Reed] It's interesting.

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[Jeff Reed] I'm seeing my mic settings were all screwed up.

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[Jeff Reed] Hopefully, that's better.

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[Jeff Reed] My defaults are off.

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[Jeff Reed] I need to figure out how to reset the defaults because it keeps defaulting lower.

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[Jeff Reed] Anyway, H-E-A-R, highlight, explain, apply, and respond towards that.

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[Jeff Reed] And so I know we've done this method.

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[Jeff Reed] Speaking of virtual reality, we've done that in virtual reality quite a bit.

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[Jeff Reed] We've done it at VR Church.

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[Jeff Reed] Leighton's done it.

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[Jeff Reed] We've taught it in multiple different formats.

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[Jeff Reed] And so it's really a simple way.

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[Jeff Reed] you normally with Bible studies, especially as a bivocational, like pastors and teachers, the temptation is really to spend like 20 plus hours, 30 plus hours prepping for sermons.

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[Jeff Reed] And to be honest, as a bivocational, we don't often have that kind of time.

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[Jeff Reed] And so falling back on a hear method to help you process, but more than just you processing, to get...

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[Jeff Reed] others to kind of own that philosophy of, okay, how do you hear this scripture and apply it to your life?

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[Jeff Reed] It's really interesting.

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[Jeff Reed] The first talk last week, which we're going through right now, as we're talking about how we, as in 1 Peter, as we're Christians, even though we're scattered, even though we're separated by distance from the initial church in Jerusalem,

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[Jeff Reed] we are chosen by God.

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[Jeff Reed] And it starts to really get into that chosen aspect of knowing who we are, even though we're distanced, which, by the way, should be an incredible comfort as digital missionaries who are often scattered and separated from physical church support or...

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[Jeff Reed] let's be honest, not understood from physical churches, to be able to fall back on the scattered nature, but understanding that even though we are not understood by the ecclesias that meet in physical space, that we are still chosen, and we are exactly where God wants us to be.

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[Jeff Reed] And so what an encouragement.

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[Jeff Reed] At least it has been for me going through that scripture.

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[Jeff Reed] It's interesting.

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[Jeff Reed] I'll say this in the Bible study.

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[Jeff Reed] I wanted to fact-check this.

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[Jeff Reed] I have not had a chance to.

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[Jeff Reed] Actually, I'm doing a... You'll see it coming up here today's Wednesday.

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[Jeff Reed] You'll see it tomorrow.

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[Jeff Reed] I'm actually doing some cartoon reinforcement of what's going on here and kind of a cartoon retelling of the scripture together using AI.

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[Jeff Reed] And it's just doing some interesting things.

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[Jeff Reed] But when I was doing some AI research to generate the cartoon, I discovered some things.

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[Jeff Reed] And the cartoon put in the background of Mount Vesuvius, the volcano.

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[Jeff Reed] And I was surprised.

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[Jeff Reed] And the AI actually called out to be Vesuvius.

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[Jeff Reed] And I was like, you know, sometimes AI, I don't know if you know this, AI kind of hallucinates a little bit.

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[Jeff Reed] But I asked, I was like, it specifically said Vesuvius.

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[Jeff Reed] And I was like, wait, that's Vesuvius there in the background.

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[Jeff Reed] I had just watched, unrelated to this entire thing, there's a documentary on Disney Plus hosted by Loki.

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[Jeff Reed] Tom Hiddlesworth, where he goes back with historians and tracks down, actually, it's a deep telling of many of the personal lives of people that were killed during the explosion of Mount Vesuvius in like, I don't know, 80 AD, I guess somewhere around there.

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[Jeff Reed] And I was like, wait, that's Mount Vesuvius.

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[Jeff Reed] Are you telling me Mount Vesuvius is within context of the people that were in this surrounding area?

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[Jeff Reed] And AI came back and said, yes, the people that read, the Christians that read 1 Peter, their lives were directly impacted by the Mount Vesuvius explosion.

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[Jeff Reed] That knowledge to me, this is not at all what I was going to say today.

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[Jeff Reed] This is funny.

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[Jeff Reed] But that knowledge, when 1 Peter is talking in chapter 1 and saying, you are separated from the church, but you are exactly where God wants you to be.

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[Jeff Reed] And oh, by the way, you're probably going to die by natural disaster within the next 19 years.

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[Jeff Reed] Within this generation, you're probably under lava.

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[Jeff Reed] Think on that for a while.

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[Jeff Reed] Even though death is coming, even though turmoil and difficulties, you've been separated from your church, you're creating almost a new religion, or, you know, okay, not that, but you're definitely going outside the established norm of religiosity by supporting Christ in that time, away from the Sadducees and the Pharisees, and certainly embracing...

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[Jeff Reed] By the way, your god died.

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[Jeff Reed] He did come back to life, but you haven't seen it yet, and you don't have anyone around you that can support you.

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[Jeff Reed] Oh, and you're going to be dead within 20 years by natural... Yeah, like, this is a really powerful, dark moment in the lives of these people.

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[Jeff Reed] Actually, this does feed into what I wanted to talk about.

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[Jeff Reed] Anyway, I would love to fact check the Vesuvius angle.

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[Jeff Reed] That I'm not sure on.

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[Jeff Reed] But what I am sure on, it's very easy when scattered to fall back into...

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[Jeff Reed] Depression comes to mind.

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[Jeff Reed] But it's more in context, not of depression.

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[Jeff Reed] I think, you know, with me, we talked about this.

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[Jeff Reed] I embrace, I have struggled with depression.

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[Jeff Reed] And that's, in 2026, that's part of who I am.

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[Jeff Reed] But for me, I think there's a difference.

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[Jeff Reed] And this is me processing out loud.

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[Jeff Reed] There's a difference between depression and negativity.

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[Jeff Reed] A difference between depression and negativity.

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[Jeff Reed] uh depression as as a state that i am you know i'll be honest like it's hard for me to get out of bed in the mornings it is a constant state of of fight to to get going to get started in it um

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[Jeff Reed] My body does not want to do what my mind wants to do.

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[Jeff Reed] And as a result of it, it's very, very hard to stay in a depressive state.

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[Jeff Reed] But the thing that helps me to get out of the depressive state, but the thing that helps me...

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[Jeff Reed] And the thing that, it was funny, that stood out for me in this first round of Bible studies, my R, how I'm responding to God.

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[Jeff Reed] My prayer was coming off that was, God, God, please, God, please help me not to fall into negativity.

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[Jeff Reed] No, I don't want this to come across new agey.

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[Jeff Reed] That's not at all.

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[Jeff Reed] That's not at all where I'm trying to go in this.

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[Jeff Reed] And we just need a positive outlook on life and, you know, look at more sunshiny.

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[Jeff Reed] Like, I'm not trying to go pop psychology into that at all.

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[Jeff Reed] But I can tell you.

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[Jeff Reed] that negativity in my life festers.

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[Jeff Reed] It takes me to a dark place.

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[Jeff Reed] It mirrors not only internally where it affects me, but it causes me to bounce that off, to replicate, to show that.

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[Jeff Reed] It's interesting.

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[Jeff Reed] Mr. Pete actually is coming in and saying as well, he's like, hey, I fight some of that too.

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[Jeff Reed] I fight some of the depression.

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[Jeff Reed] of that.

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[Jeff Reed] And man, Mr. Pete, I appreciate you saying that here in chat right now.

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[Jeff Reed] The negative aspects of when I see things, it's very easy for me to replicate it.

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[Jeff Reed] I'll be honest, and this is one of the reasons why I think I make a horrible church employee, because part of so much of what I want to do is countercultural to churches.

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[Jeff Reed] And to be honest, I'm probably a little bit prophet, where I am very quick to say things that...

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[Jeff Reed] probably doesn't really respect the church culture, and I apologize for that.

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[Jeff Reed] But it's kind of challenging them to see some things different.

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[Jeff Reed] And when they don't, it's very easy for me to respond negatively.

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[Jeff Reed] It's easy for me to get sucked in.

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[Jeff Reed] And if I am, these are not positives, these are negatives.

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[Jeff Reed] These are issues that are in my life.

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[Jeff Reed] If I have people that are around me that are spewing negativity, once again, it's very easy for me to not only be taken to a dark place to internalize that negativity.

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[Jeff Reed] but it's very easy for me to replicate, to bounce that negativity off, to show that negativity to others.

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[Jeff Reed] You know, it can even be said in a positive way.

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[Jeff Reed] Oh my gosh, I'm praying that this church would change and then insert, you know, subtweet or, you know, subtle jabs and shots along the way.

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[Jeff Reed] So even negativity can be framed.

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[Jeff Reed] Christians are so good at that.

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[Jeff Reed] You know, I'm guilty.

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[Jeff Reed] Even negativity can be phrased in a positive state.

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[Jeff Reed] And it's something that in my own life I've become aware of that I need help working on.

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[Jeff Reed] I need help to take steps not...

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[Jeff Reed] internalizing the negativity.

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[Jeff Reed] I need help not reproducing the negativity, replicating it onto someone else, whether it's gossip or whether it's full-on attacking in some context, even under the guise of being a prophet or trying to right wrongs.

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[Jeff Reed] There are ways to address and to handle things healthily, and being negative is not one.

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[Jeff Reed] It's interesting.

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[Jeff Reed] Well, actually, I wanted to look at, and so here's what I did.

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[Jeff Reed] I pulled up some scriptures, some points that I wanna talk through in this stream.

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[Jeff Reed] I would love for us to kinda talk through and start to look at maybe some ways in scripture that we see negativity

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[Jeff Reed] being handled.

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[Jeff Reed] And to be honest, I think there is also some depressive states that we're going to see in some of these stories as well.

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[Jeff Reed] So I'm interested in going through the conversation we're doing here.

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[Jeff Reed] If anything, feel free to jump in chat.

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[Jeff Reed] If this resonates with you, if this is on topic, if you feel like you connect with this, if I'm off base, feel free to share it as well.

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[Jeff Reed] I am not...

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[Jeff Reed] I have vocally said many times, I am not the expert.

00:17:08.948 --> 00:17:10.807
[Jeff Reed] I am not the expert on this.

00:17:10.867 --> 00:17:16.150
[Jeff Reed] There are many things I do well.

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[Jeff Reed] This whole state of mind for me, this depression type thing, this is really within the past two years, three years maybe.

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[Jeff Reed] And so to be honest, I don't have much...

00:17:30.315 --> 00:17:31.096
[Jeff Reed] much experience.

00:17:31.695 --> 00:17:37.863
[Jeff Reed] I actually fought that I was depressed for longer, I think, than I've admitted that I'm depressed.

00:17:37.903 --> 00:17:38.884
[Jeff Reed] This is not depression.

00:17:38.903 --> 00:17:41.125
[Jeff Reed] That's not where, no, just my opinion.

00:17:41.145 --> 00:17:43.488
[Jeff Reed] Just say you're depressed and deal with it.

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[Jeff Reed] Better to embrace it.

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[Jeff Reed] Methos, I seem to fight confusion more than depression.

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[Jeff Reed] I'm sure it'll come for me someday.

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[Jeff Reed] Oh, that statement's confusing to me.

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[Jeff Reed] We need to talk about that.

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[Jeff Reed] All right, let's get into it and see where the Lord leads us in this time.

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[Jeff Reed] All right, so look, here's what I would say.

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[Jeff Reed] Number one, negativity limits us.

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[Jeff Reed] I mean, shoot, even Jesus felt that.

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[Jeff Reed] There's an interesting story.

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[Jeff Reed] We've all heard this.

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[Jeff Reed] A prophet is without honor in his own hometown.

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[Jeff Reed] It's a biblical phrase.

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[Jeff Reed] It's interesting.

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[Jeff Reed] I've quoted it and talked to others about it.

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[Jeff Reed] Well, the backstory around that...

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[Jeff Reed] was actually, gee, it's the words of Christ and the context.

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[Jeff Reed] If you go back to Mark 6, it's in context of one of Jesus' calming on the storms.

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[Jeff Reed] Mark 6, I'm reading from, I'm going to scan real quickly through the Berean.

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[Jeff Reed] Jesus went on from there and came to his hometown accompanied by disciples.

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[Jeff Reed] When the Sabbath came, he began to teach in the synagogue, and many who heard him were astonished.

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[Jeff Reed] Where did this man get these ideas?

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[Jeff Reed] What is this wisdom he has been given?

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[Jeff Reed] And how can he perform such miracles like the calming of the seas?

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[Jeff Reed] Isn't this the carpenter, son of Mary, and the brother of James?

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[Jeff Reed] That says Joses and Judas.

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[Jeff Reed] I guess that's, yeah, Joses and Judas.

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[Jeff Reed] I don't recognize the Joses in that.

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[Jeff Reed] And Simon, aren't his sisters here with us as well?

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[Jeff Reed] And they took offense at him.

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[Jeff Reed] It's interesting.

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[Jeff Reed] Like, isn't this, doesn't this feel like the typical Christian answer?

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[Jeff Reed] It's like, you know, being...

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[Jeff Reed] sub-tweeting, maybe being a little positive while being negative, maybe being a little passive-aggressive, you know, towards this.

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[Jeff Reed] This is just a normal guy.

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[Jeff Reed] And Jesus responded and said to them, only in his own hometown among his relatives and in his own household is a prophet without honor.

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[Jeff Reed] Which, by the way, is kind of a little passive-aggressive back, maybe full-on aggressive-aggressive.

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[Jeff Reed] This was early in Jesus's ministry.

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[Jeff Reed] and so he could not perform many miracles there except to lay on a few of the sick to heal them.

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[Jeff Reed] And he was amazed at their unbelief, and he went around from village to village teaching the people.

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[Jeff Reed] Now, it's interesting to me where Jesus heard the negativity, and he, cool, you don't want me around?

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[Jeff Reed] I'm not, I'm not, I'm done.

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[Jeff Reed] That's not the way I'm wired, which to me is a little bit telling.

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[Jeff Reed] Jesus saw the negativity as a limit, that he was not welcome, and rather than fighting it, rather than saying, screw you, I'm still going to do it, and I'm going to do it my way, he heeded the...

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[Jeff Reed] You're not welcome here.

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[Jeff Reed] And went.

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[Jeff Reed] It talks about in Mark 6 that he went on to other villages and went on his way and did not show the miracles.

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[Jeff Reed] But it's interesting.

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[Jeff Reed] He was amazed.

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[Jeff Reed] I love this in verse 6.

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[Jeff Reed] He was amazed at their unbelief.

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[Jeff Reed] Jesus was surprised.

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[Jeff Reed] that the religious leaders, that the people that he had looked up to, the people that he sat underneath, the people that he saw in the temple growing up, the people that knew him, were not able to impress him.

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[Jeff Reed] That surprised him.

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[Jeff Reed] He was amazed at their unbelief, the Bible literally says.

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[Jeff Reed] And so he dealt with it, but what I think is important, he moved on.

00:22:02.811 --> 00:22:07.314
[Jeff Reed] negativity can be a deflator.

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[Jeff Reed] Negativity 100% is a deflator in my life.

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[Jeff Reed] It takes the helium out of the balloon.

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[Jeff Reed] It kills the conversation.

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[Jeff Reed] And for me,

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[Jeff Reed] At this point in my life, Jesus was 30-something, and so he was still young in his ministry career.

00:22:28.256 --> 00:22:33.357
[Jeff Reed] I'm not young in my ministry career, and to be honest, that doesn't surprise me in 26.

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[Jeff Reed] I'm almost reverse of that.

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[Jeff Reed] When there's a positive conversation around digital technology, I met with a digital pastor today of a physical church who told me some great stories, and I was like, dude, congratulations.

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[Jeff Reed] You're one of the few right now.

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[Jeff Reed] of an established church, normal church, that's doing incredible things digitally.

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[Jeff Reed] Keep going and enjoy the season, man.

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[Jeff Reed] It's almost like the reverse of it surprises me.

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[Jeff Reed] But for Jesus, this surprised him.

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[Jeff Reed] For me, I would probably say I'm not that surprised, but we can't let the negativity of it continue.

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[Jeff Reed] It's interesting.

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[Jeff Reed] There was—oh, man, I can't think of the woman's name—

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[Jeff Reed] There's a woman who spoke at Global Leadership Summit.

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[Jeff Reed] You know, this is what comes out of Willow Creek, Life Church now as well.

00:23:22.945 --> 00:23:26.067
[Jeff Reed] Craig Groeschel hosts Global Leadership Summit.

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[Jeff Reed] It happens every August.

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[Jeff Reed] It's like Christian and marketplace leaders come together and leadership development kind of thing.

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[Jeff Reed] There was a woman who spoke.

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[Jeff Reed] at this year's GLS, and she was talking about changing culture.

00:23:49.175 --> 00:23:51.757
[Jeff Reed] And what her, that was her topic, changing culture.

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[Jeff Reed] She's written a book on it.

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[Jeff Reed] It wasn't released at the time, otherwise I would have bought it.

00:23:57.058 --> 00:24:09.022
[Jeff Reed] But the changing, to change culture, you cannot change culture grounded in negativity because negativity shuts down change.

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[Jeff Reed] If you want to change culture, and this is the mistake that I've made in my life, which I think is interesting because Jesus in many ways models this.

00:24:20.028 --> 00:24:21.568
[Jeff Reed] Jesus saw the negativity.

00:24:22.710 --> 00:24:27.471
[Jeff Reed] Jesus shut down, well, Jesus was shut down by the conversation.

00:24:28.551 --> 00:24:34.434
[Jeff Reed] And Jesus said, fine, but he didn't say, I'm going to do it to screw you and prove you wrong.

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[Jeff Reed] He said, I'll go to where I'm welcome.

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[Jeff Reed] I'm not being welcome in my own hometown.

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[Jeff Reed] I'm not being welcome in front of my family, I'm just gonna leave now.

00:24:45.186 --> 00:24:50.990
[Jeff Reed] And I'll do it with someplace that's going to embrace and support what I'm saying.

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[Jeff Reed] I'm gonna go where people are gonna recognize the truth and not be crowded by, not be confused, not be stuck in traditionalism and much of what the rabbis and religiosity was showing at the time.

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[Jeff Reed] So it's really interesting, this idea of being shut down and not even acknowledging it, moving and going to where it is.

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[Jeff Reed] So even though negativity can be a lid, even though it limits, don't let it stop.

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[Jeff Reed] but recognize that your audience may need to change.

00:25:35.023 --> 00:25:37.464
[Jeff Reed] Your support system may need to change.

00:25:38.065 --> 00:25:47.471
[Jeff Reed] You may need to get connected to people who can help you, who can support you, who can encourage you on the road that you're on.

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[Jeff Reed] All right, so one, negativity limits, went through that, Mark six, one through six.

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[Jeff Reed] The other thing, this is 100% me, negativity isolates.

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[Jeff Reed] Am I the only one left?

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[Jeff Reed] I tell you, I can see this in me, and I have felt that way.

00:26:10.635 --> 00:26:14.298
[Jeff Reed] Actually, I felt that way, that's the reason the church digital exists.

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[Jeff Reed] I mean, I've told so many stories, but I was sitting around.

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[Jeff Reed] I was in a physical church environment where I felt like I was the only one left, and I was the only person who believed the way that I believed.

00:26:32.605 --> 00:26:34.606
[Jeff Reed] There was a lot of negativity in the environment.

00:26:35.166 --> 00:26:50.171
[Jeff Reed] And somehow I managed to get around the table with two or three digital pastors and digital savvy Christians, guys like Jay Cranda over at Saddleback Church and a couple other people.

00:26:50.191 --> 00:26:51.592
[Jeff Reed] It was episode 100.

00:26:52.031 --> 00:26:55.692
[Jeff Reed] Actually, it was a reliving of the story, episode 100 of Becoming the Church Digital.

00:26:56.472 --> 00:26:59.413
[Jeff Reed] And so you can go back to that episode and listen to hear the whole conversation.

00:26:59.913 --> 00:27:18.919
[Jeff Reed] But it literally was sitting around a conversation with some people I don't often sit around with and was able to kind of share what God has been doing on my heart when I realized, hey, I need to create the church digital to be the support system to help.

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[Jeff Reed] missionaries like you all and digital pastors like you all to be that solution.

00:27:30.170 --> 00:27:34.294
[Jeff Reed] What's interesting is that the idea of, am I the only one left?

00:27:35.957 --> 00:27:36.917
[Jeff Reed] No one's with me.

00:27:37.659 --> 00:27:38.559
[Jeff Reed] I'm all alone.

00:27:39.361 --> 00:27:41.103
[Jeff Reed] We see this in Scripture, too, by the way.

00:27:41.202 --> 00:27:42.183
[Jeff Reed] And it was interesting.

00:27:42.403 --> 00:27:52.874
[Jeff Reed] I was reading through some different options, and one of the options popped up, and I was like, I've never put this story together.

00:27:53.775 --> 00:27:56.395
[Jeff Reed] the way that it did, the AI did.

00:27:57.217 --> 00:28:01.558
[Jeff Reed] When I was putting this, I was like, oh my gosh, that's a really powerful moment.

00:28:01.878 --> 00:28:04.759
[Jeff Reed] So let's talk about 1 Kings.

00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:07.162
[Jeff Reed] This is Old Testament, okay?

00:28:07.241 --> 00:28:08.261
[Jeff Reed] Let's talk about Elijah.

00:28:09.663 --> 00:28:11.983
[Jeff Reed] Was it prophets of Baal?

00:28:13.825 --> 00:28:17.886
[Jeff Reed] Elijah calls fire down from the sky.

00:28:18.905 --> 00:28:26.111
[Jeff Reed] And fire comes down from the sky, literally eats up the offering.

00:28:26.651 --> 00:28:31.294
[Jeff Reed] Prophets of Baal all have been, was it weeping and gnashing of teeth?

00:28:31.314 --> 00:28:32.714
[Jeff Reed] They're embarrassed publicly.

00:28:33.935 --> 00:28:36.116
[Jeff Reed] Elijah did what they could not do.

00:28:36.237 --> 00:28:41.260
[Jeff Reed] God did what the God, little g God of Baal.

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[Jeff Reed] could not do.

00:28:42.721 --> 00:28:48.630
[Jeff Reed] Queen Jezebel is ridiculously embarrassed.

00:28:49.111 --> 00:28:59.104
[Jeff Reed] At the end of the day, this should have been, this could have been, arguably it was the biggest win of Elijah's life.

00:29:00.429 --> 00:29:05.996
[Jeff Reed] You know, I talk about like the innovator sine wave curve, the entrepreneur sine wave curve.

00:29:06.496 --> 00:29:07.237
[Jeff Reed] I love my life.

00:29:07.336 --> 00:29:08.057
[Jeff Reed] I hate my life.

00:29:08.178 --> 00:29:09.078
[Jeff Reed] I can do this forever.

00:29:09.220 --> 00:29:10.421
[Jeff Reed] I never want to do this again.

00:29:10.922 --> 00:29:13.044
[Jeff Reed] You know, it's that, you know...

00:29:17.760 --> 00:29:23.805
[Jeff Reed] It's just like the up and down emotional curve that I live on at a personal level.

00:29:24.665 --> 00:29:25.767
[Jeff Reed] This is what's interesting.

00:29:25.787 --> 00:29:27.587
[Jeff Reed] You know, I knew that story about Elijah.

00:29:27.968 --> 00:29:33.172
[Jeff Reed] What I didn't realize is actually coming up here in a chapter later.

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[Jeff Reed] Fire calling down from heaven is 1 Kings 18, 1 Kings 19.

00:29:39.391 --> 00:29:42.393
[Jeff Reed] And Elijah was afraid and ran for his life.

00:29:42.973 --> 00:29:44.174
[Jeff Reed] 1 Kings 19, 3.

00:29:44.875 --> 00:29:53.602
[Jeff Reed] And when he came to Beersheba in Judah, he left his servant there while he himself went a day's journey into the wilderness.

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[Jeff Reed] Verse 4.

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[Jeff Reed] He sat under a broom tree and prayed that he might die.

00:30:02.008 --> 00:30:03.087
[Jeff Reed] I have had enough, Lord.

00:30:03.169 --> 00:30:06.290
[Jeff Reed] Take my life, for I am no better than my father's.

00:30:07.111 --> 00:30:07.372
[Jeff Reed] So...

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[Jeff Reed] 48 hours, basically, 48 hours after calling fire from heaven and defeating the prophets of Baal, God, you know, obliterating the God, little g God of Baal, 48 hours later, he is wanting to kill himself because he is all alone.

00:30:34.147 --> 00:30:36.469
[Jeff Reed] There, Elijah entered a cave and spent the night.

00:30:36.888 --> 00:30:39.930
[Jeff Reed] And the word of the Lord came to him and said, what are you doing here, Elijah?

00:30:40.769 --> 00:30:44.330
[Jeff Reed] I have been very zealous for the Lord, the God of hosts, he replies.

00:30:44.371 --> 00:30:50.272
[Jeff Reed] But the Israelites have forsaken your covenant, torn down your altars, and killed your prophets with the sword.

00:30:50.413 --> 00:30:51.453
[Jeff Reed] I am the only one left.

00:30:52.334 --> 00:30:55.275
[Jeff Reed] And they are now seeking my life as well.

00:30:55.755 --> 00:31:01.976
[Jeff Reed] Fast forwarding to verse 11, the Lord said, go out and stand on the mountain before the Lord.

00:31:02.455 --> 00:31:04.777
[Jeff Reed] Behold, the Lord is about to pass by.

00:31:05.777 --> 00:31:11.018
[Jeff Reed] And a great mighty wind tore the mountains and shattered the rocks before the Lord.

00:31:11.499 --> 00:31:14.919
[Jeff Reed] But the Lord was not in the wind.

00:31:15.538 --> 00:31:18.740
[Jeff Reed] After the wind, there was an earthquake, but the Lord was not in the earthquake.

00:31:19.339 --> 00:31:21.861
[Jeff Reed] After the earthquake, there was a fire, but the Lord was not in the fire.

00:31:22.980 --> 00:31:26.702
[Jeff Reed] And after the fire came a still, small voice.

00:31:27.482 --> 00:31:30.585
[Jeff Reed] And when Elijah heard it, he wrapped his face in his cloak.

00:31:31.204 --> 00:31:34.165
[Jeff Reed] He went out and stood at the mouth of the cave.

00:31:34.226 --> 00:31:38.887
[Jeff Reed] Suddenly a voice came to him and said, What are you doing here, Elijah?

00:31:40.189 --> 00:31:43.109
[Jeff Reed] I have been very zealous for the Lord, the God of hosts, he replied.

00:31:43.410 --> 00:31:48.992
[Jeff Reed] But the Israelites have forsaken your covenant, torn down your altars, and killed your prophets with the sword.

00:31:49.413 --> 00:31:51.634
[Jeff Reed] I am the only one left, and they are seeking my life as well.

00:31:52.861 --> 00:31:54.261
[Jeff Reed] By the way, you think you have a bad day.

00:31:55.943 --> 00:32:04.951
[Jeff Reed] You have never been, you know, your prophets have been killed with the sword and I am the only one left and they're seeking my life as well.

00:32:05.452 --> 00:32:09.056
[Jeff Reed] Your bad day does not match Elijah's bad day there, okay?

00:32:09.215 --> 00:32:10.617
[Jeff Reed] Let's just call fact the fact.

00:32:13.378 --> 00:32:18.799
[Jeff Reed] Nevertheless, I have reserved 7,000 in Israel, all whose knees...

00:32:18.819 --> 00:32:19.380
[Jeff Reed] I'm sorry.

00:32:19.980 --> 00:32:31.364
[Jeff Reed] Nevertheless, Elijah says, I have reserved 7,000 in Israel, all whose knees have not bowed and whose mouths have not bowed to Baal and have not kissed him.

00:32:32.943 --> 00:32:39.326
[Jeff Reed] So Elijah's found the 7,000 and is recognizing that even in the dark moments...

00:32:40.479 --> 00:32:41.578
[Jeff Reed] There are some.

00:32:42.298 --> 00:32:43.298
[Jeff Reed] You know, it's interesting.

00:32:43.660 --> 00:32:46.279
[Jeff Reed] What is it, the Jim Carrey meme?

00:32:46.380 --> 00:32:47.440
[Jeff Reed] So you're saying there's a chance.

00:32:49.641 --> 00:32:51.601
[Jeff Reed] That was, what movie is that from?

00:32:51.840 --> 00:32:55.201
[Jeff Reed] Is that from, somebody will tell me.

00:32:56.402 --> 00:32:58.321
[Jeff Reed] Oh my gosh, it's killing me.

00:32:58.362 --> 00:33:00.682
[Jeff Reed] It's with him and Bridges, right?

00:33:01.903 --> 00:33:07.463
[Jeff Reed] I can just see him in the white tux right now with the animated GIF.

00:33:08.124 --> 00:33:09.763
[Jeff Reed] All right, so you're saying there's a chance.

00:33:11.988 --> 00:33:14.710
[Jeff Reed] With God, yes, I would say there's a chance.

00:33:15.809 --> 00:33:20.393
[Jeff Reed] Historically, when we look at scripture, God has always presented a chance.

00:33:21.093 --> 00:33:24.775
[Jeff Reed] As we've looked at history, God takes care of his people.

00:33:25.315 --> 00:33:28.037
[Jeff Reed] So yes, I would say there's a chance.

00:33:30.798 --> 00:33:33.940
[Jeff Reed] That's really where so much of this comes.

00:33:35.201 --> 00:33:37.061
[Jeff Reed] Negativity does isolate.

00:33:38.001 --> 00:33:50.346
[Jeff Reed] Negativity is very easy to ensnarl, to trap, to make the depression amplified.

00:33:51.205 --> 00:33:56.346
[Jeff Reed] A lot of my depression came from where I was physically unable to move.

00:33:57.768 --> 00:34:05.309
[Jeff Reed] And the negativity of you're all alone, you're all alone was just gasoline on that.

00:34:07.471 --> 00:34:12.715
[Jeff Reed] The negativity when I'm emotionally disconnected, same way.

00:34:13.596 --> 00:34:21.141
[Jeff Reed] Where I had a support system, I had a family, I had loved ones, I had digital relationships I could have fallen back on.

00:34:21.682 --> 00:34:24.804
[Jeff Reed] But the negativity that was internal in me...

00:34:25.706 --> 00:34:31.128
[Jeff Reed] reading the situation, by the way, the situation is rarely as bleak as you really think it is.

00:34:32.748 --> 00:34:36.429
[Jeff Reed] I mean, in context, we hear fear from scripture.

00:34:37.028 --> 00:34:38.269
[Jeff Reed] Oh, I'm all alone.

00:34:38.730 --> 00:34:41.550
[Jeff Reed] Oh, but no, there's probably 7,000, but I'm all alone.

00:34:42.391 --> 00:34:45.554
[Jeff Reed] Oh, you know, yeah, God, you called the fire down.

00:34:45.594 --> 00:34:47.195
[Jeff Reed] Like, you did some awesome work there.

00:34:47.856 --> 00:34:49.217
[Jeff Reed] But kill me now, would you?

00:34:49.277 --> 00:34:53.400
[Jeff Reed] Because even though fire falls down from sky, I'm useless.

00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:58.143
[Jeff Reed] Like, God, like, you can't do anything else for me here.

00:34:58.523 --> 00:34:59.664
[Jeff Reed] I might as well just be dead.

00:35:00.326 --> 00:35:03.387
[Jeff Reed] Could you kill me so that they don't actually get the pleasure of it?

00:35:06.570 --> 00:35:07.532
[Jeff Reed] What would that look like?

00:35:08.789 --> 00:35:09.489
[Jeff Reed] What would it look like?

00:35:09.510 --> 00:35:10.650
[Jeff Reed] What would it say about God?

00:35:11.391 --> 00:35:12.472
[Jeff Reed] If, hey, you know what?

00:35:13.152 --> 00:35:13.693
[Jeff Reed] We will.

00:35:14.614 --> 00:35:15.813
[Jeff Reed] Yeah, I'll go ahead and take your life.

00:35:17.371 --> 00:35:20.474
[Jeff Reed] It really would have wasted all the stuff that I had done before.

00:35:20.934 --> 00:35:22.996
[Jeff Reed] I know I took care of you then, but you're right.

00:35:23.677 --> 00:35:24.838
[Jeff Reed] This is too big for me now.

00:35:26.380 --> 00:35:30.362
[Jeff Reed] We showed up the little G God bail.

00:35:30.623 --> 00:35:33.666
[Jeff Reed] But so we're not going to get, but that's all I can do.

00:35:33.726 --> 00:35:34.106
[Jeff Reed] I'm done.

00:35:35.007 --> 00:35:37.509
[Jeff Reed] What would it say about God if he's like, yeah, you're right.

00:35:38.110 --> 00:35:39.431
[Jeff Reed] This situation is too big for me.

00:35:41.733 --> 00:35:44.235
[Jeff Reed] Man, thank God there's no situation too big for God.

00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:58.047
[Jeff Reed] What does it say about our faith if we go running with the tail between our legs, saying, yeah, just kill me now, God.

00:35:58.146 --> 00:35:59.447
[Jeff Reed] This isn't worth it.

00:36:00.248 --> 00:36:04.331
[Jeff Reed] This isn't... You can't use me.

00:36:04.391 --> 00:36:05.271
[Jeff Reed] You can't fix this.

00:36:05.331 --> 00:36:06.353
[Jeff Reed] You can't solve this.

00:36:15.659 --> 00:36:27.032
[Jeff Reed] What's scary in this instance is that a little negativity in the right environment can snowball all the way down.

00:36:27.373 --> 00:36:33.139
[Jeff Reed] Now listen, I don't want to downplay what's happening to Elijah in this situation.

00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:37.903
[Jeff Reed] where he had, I mean, he's going against the prophets of Baal.

00:36:38.344 --> 00:36:41.728
[Jeff Reed] He's going against, oh, what's her name?

00:36:41.748 --> 00:36:46.833
[Jeff Reed] The queen, Jezebel, and everything in that environment.

00:36:46.914 --> 00:36:50.697
[Jeff Reed] And so dude was thrown through the ringer.

00:36:51.922 --> 00:36:52.402
[Jeff Reed] I get it.

00:36:53.664 --> 00:36:55.806
[Jeff Reed] We talked about Job in the Bible study last week.

00:36:55.846 --> 00:37:02.250
[Jeff Reed] Job was thrown through the ringer and stayed positive to God up until the last minute when he didn't.

00:37:03.010 --> 00:37:05.592
[Jeff Reed] And then God ripped him a new one, Job 41 or whatever.

00:37:06.032 --> 00:37:08.494
[Jeff Reed] God says, where were you when I invented the heavens and the earth?

00:37:08.534 --> 00:37:13.317
[Jeff Reed] And basically the entire chapter is God just reading him the riot act for not having faith in God.

00:37:14.887 --> 00:37:16.347
[Jeff Reed] I see this in Proverbs.

00:37:16.367 --> 00:37:22.112
[Jeff Reed] He who isolates himself pursues selfish desires.

00:37:22.512 --> 00:37:27.295
[Jeff Reed] He who isolates himself pursues selfish desires.

00:37:28.076 --> 00:37:31.597
[Jeff Reed] He rebels against all sound judgment.

00:37:34.914 --> 00:37:36.255
[Jeff Reed] You know, what's the story?

00:37:37.954 --> 00:37:44.137
[Jeff Reed] Jonah even sits down under the tree and the tree dies.

00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:47.260
[Jeff Reed] It withers.

00:37:48.780 --> 00:37:54.802
[Jeff Reed] God just removes life from it because of the negativity that Jonah had in that moment.

00:37:55.483 --> 00:37:59.204
[Jeff Reed] Ecclesiastes, two are better than one because they have a good return for their labor.

00:37:59.565 --> 00:38:02.626
[Jeff Reed] For if one falls down as companion, it's quite literally describing...

00:38:03.416 --> 00:38:03.856
[Jeff Reed] Partnering.

00:38:04.775 --> 00:38:08.157
[Jeff Reed] Two are better than one because they have a good return for their labor.

00:38:08.677 --> 00:38:13.679
[Jeff Reed] For if one falls down, his companion can lift him up.

00:38:13.739 --> 00:38:17.639
[Jeff Reed] But pity the one who falls without another to help him up.

00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:18.880
[Jeff Reed] That's Ecclesiastes.

00:38:19.820 --> 00:38:22.302
[Jeff Reed] Again, if two lie down together, they will keep warm.

00:38:22.641 --> 00:38:24.362
[Jeff Reed] But how can one keep warm alone?

00:38:25.242 --> 00:38:29.304
[Jeff Reed] And though one may be overpowered, two can resist.

00:38:29.864 --> 00:38:33.766
[Jeff Reed] Moreover, a cord of three is not quickly broken.

00:38:33.846 --> 00:38:35.726
[Jeff Reed] That's Ecclesiastes 4, 9-12.

00:38:38.146 --> 00:38:40.088
[Jeff Reed] To do this alone is folly.

00:38:41.748 --> 00:38:51.592
[Jeff Reed] To do this alone gives an opportunity for Satan to come in.

00:38:52.967 --> 00:38:59.630
[Jeff Reed] to allow that negative thought to fester, to become infected, to come to the point where it impacts.

00:39:00.751 --> 00:39:02.132
[Jeff Reed] Not talking new agey here.

00:39:03.432 --> 00:39:04.474
[Jeff Reed] It's interesting.

00:39:04.494 --> 00:39:07.715
[Jeff Reed] I had a pastor many years ago, maybe a decade ago.

00:39:10.356 --> 00:39:13.539
[Jeff Reed] He handed me this book, The Joy Bus.

00:39:16.496 --> 00:39:28.304
[Jeff Reed] And, like, you know, I respect the pastor, but it was very kind of worldly, on finding joy in the moment, kind of worldly pursuit type book.

00:39:29.184 --> 00:39:39.550
[Jeff Reed] And I read it, and I literally, I was like, I was like, I love the ideas of this, but, like, this is a, this was a...

00:39:40.969 --> 00:39:42.670
[Jeff Reed] What am I trying to say?

00:39:43.311 --> 00:39:46.391
[Jeff Reed] It was a secular philosophy type of book.

00:39:46.431 --> 00:39:49.552
[Jeff Reed] It was not grounded in Bible and Scripture at all.

00:39:50.572 --> 00:39:53.353
[Jeff Reed] And he's like, Jeff, find Jesus.

00:39:53.432 --> 00:39:58.474
[Jeff Reed] It was one of the first times somebody ever challenged me, Jeff, find Jesus in the book.

00:39:58.554 --> 00:40:06.936
[Jeff Reed] And that's when I started to go back over and reanalyzing some of the philosophies that were secular in mindset, right?

00:40:07.804 --> 00:40:10.847
[Jeff Reed] but matching it up with scripture, aligning where this makes sense.

00:40:10.947 --> 00:40:21.659
[Jeff Reed] And so, whereas negativity and joy, like these are words that are often new agey and have often been secularized in business mantra, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:40:22.601 --> 00:40:26.264
[Jeff Reed] The fact is, is that the theory behind this, once again,

00:40:27.545 --> 00:40:32.827
[Jeff Reed] The secular realm is actually grounded in what the scripture is teaching.

00:40:32.847 --> 00:40:38.688
[Jeff Reed] The book that's irrelevant, quote unquote, to our lives has actually been solidified once again.

00:40:38.768 --> 00:40:40.889
[Jeff Reed] Thank you very much, God.

00:40:42.811 --> 00:40:43.630
[Jeff Reed] So that's where we are.

00:40:45.751 --> 00:40:48.773
[Jeff Reed] It's very easy for negativity in isolation to fester.

00:40:50.396 --> 00:40:57.661
[Jeff Reed] Jesus literally, as he sent people out to share the gospel, he sent them in twos, sent them in pairs.

00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:05.125
[Jeff Reed] Ecclesiastes is saying in here, two is better than one because they have a better return on labor than what one would.

00:41:06.826 --> 00:41:12.889
[Jeff Reed] If you're doing digital missions, if you're a digital missionary, if you're in digital church, don't do it alone.

00:41:13.869 --> 00:41:14.811
[Jeff Reed] Bring somebody with you.

00:41:14.831 --> 00:41:18.492
[Jeff Reed] I mean, literally scripture is telling you that.

00:41:20.188 --> 00:41:21.909
[Jeff Reed] Negativity, number three.

00:41:21.989 --> 00:41:25.251
[Jeff Reed] Negativity, number three, it destroys.

00:41:26.652 --> 00:41:30.054
[Jeff Reed] So number one, let's see, I just said it isolates.

00:41:30.215 --> 00:41:31.054
[Jeff Reed] Number one, it limits.

00:41:31.594 --> 00:41:33.277
[Jeff Reed] Number two, it isolates.

00:41:34.476 --> 00:41:36.958
[Jeff Reed] Number three, it full-on destroys here.

00:41:36.998 --> 00:41:38.920
[Jeff Reed] So let's look at this.

00:41:41.541 --> 00:41:46.224
[Jeff Reed] Let's talk about it destroying in context of grumbling.

00:41:47.742 --> 00:41:52.264
[Jeff Reed] Now it's interesting with grumbling, I'm not even talking about like slander.

00:41:53.264 --> 00:41:55.525
[Jeff Reed] I'm not talking about malice.

00:41:56.005 --> 00:41:57.967
[Jeff Reed] I'm not talking about on the attack.

00:41:59.067 --> 00:42:02.048
[Jeff Reed] Like for me, even just grumbling.

00:42:03.048 --> 00:42:23.208
[Jeff Reed] affects me negatively even grumbling it's it's like the um the front door drug grumbling is marijuana it probably doesn't this is so bad please don't quote me on this but grumbling is marijuana it probably is not going to make me fall into the deep end but it's going to make it's going to start me on something

00:42:24.150 --> 00:42:32.036
[Jeff Reed] It's the thing that opens up the door to allows heavier drug use, heavier into play.

00:42:32.097 --> 00:42:35.639
[Jeff Reed] And if you're doing marijuana and it's legal where you are, good for you.

00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:36.920
[Jeff Reed] Don't do drugs.

00:42:37.981 --> 00:42:39.422
[Jeff Reed] But my larger point.

00:42:40.704 --> 00:42:44.047
[Jeff Reed] hate mail, send it to, you know what, send it to Andy at The Church Digital.

00:42:44.067 --> 00:42:47.168
[Jeff Reed] Let's see if he's still checking that email inbox.

00:42:47.469 --> 00:42:52.554
[Jeff Reed] But the fact is, is that grumbling can start.

00:42:53.315 --> 00:42:56.677
[Jeff Reed] Grumbling is where complaining starts.

00:42:57.117 --> 00:43:06.085
[Jeff Reed] Complaining gets into negative, which affects the spirit, which allows Satan an opportunity to bring even more in.

00:43:08.527 --> 00:43:11.268
[Jeff Reed] Grumbling doesn't do any good.

00:43:12.530 --> 00:43:20.454
[Jeff Reed] Every environment I've worked in, grumbling has never been helpful.

00:43:21.335 --> 00:43:22.414
[Jeff Reed] Now, it's funny.

00:43:22.614 --> 00:43:29.998
[Jeff Reed] I used to, like, a couple times I was on unhealthy staff environments, and I would let people grumble.

00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:36.702
[Jeff Reed] I would let people grumble to me because I thought I can help them work it out.

00:43:38.028 --> 00:43:49.795
[Jeff Reed] So you can grumble to me, you can vent to me, just realize that part of that grumbling, part of that process is gonna be me listening and helping you work through it.

00:43:50.516 --> 00:43:55.599
[Jeff Reed] Like how can we take grumbling and spin it into a positive environment?

00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:59.481
[Jeff Reed] Spin it for good, spin it to reconcile the situation.

00:44:01.063 --> 00:44:05.085
[Jeff Reed] And what I would say is that I had that attitude

00:44:06.382 --> 00:44:09.666
[Jeff Reed] The people who were sharing with me did not.

00:44:11.628 --> 00:44:17.873
[Jeff Reed] Grumbling, there's an attitude to grumbling that is different than reconciling.

00:44:19.735 --> 00:44:26.543
[Jeff Reed] If people are coming to you with a state of grumbling and you're not...

00:44:28.867 --> 00:44:32.708
[Jeff Reed] And you are the only one that's trying to help them reconcile the issues.

00:44:32.748 --> 00:44:38.090
[Jeff Reed] They themselves are not being broken enough yet to help reconcile it.

00:44:38.371 --> 00:44:43.311
[Jeff Reed] That's only putting, and what my experience was, it was added emotional weight.

00:44:44.393 --> 00:44:54.416
[Jeff Reed] And all of a sudden now I'm carrying the burdens of many other people that I don't, I'm trying to help them reconcile, but they're not willing to reconcile and work through.

00:44:55.376 --> 00:45:03.039
[Jeff Reed] You know, it's like the, this is a bad analogy maybe, but it's like the husband and wife going to couples therapy.

00:45:03.940 --> 00:45:07.561
[Jeff Reed] And the wife wants to reconcile, but the husband has no desire.

00:45:07.581 --> 00:45:10.443
[Jeff Reed] He doesn't think anything's wrong.

00:45:11.043 --> 00:45:20.907
[Jeff Reed] As a counselor, as a pastor, maybe some of you have been in that situation on either side, maybe as the counselor, pastor, or maybe you've gone through it with your spouse.

00:45:21.628 --> 00:45:28.295
[Jeff Reed] Either way, you know that it's very hard to get somebody who doesn't want to do something to do it.

00:45:28.356 --> 00:45:34.922
[Jeff Reed] And if the person's not willing to, like, if they're not in a posture of reconciliation, they're not going to.

00:45:36.724 --> 00:45:45.813
[Jeff Reed] if they're in a posture of grumbling and negativity, there is very little that can be done in that moment to reconcile, to shift it.

00:45:46.353 --> 00:45:49.637
[Jeff Reed] By the way, once again, we do, we find this in Scripture.

00:45:49.697 --> 00:45:55.603
[Jeff Reed] We look at 1 Corinthians 10.10, and do not complain, as some of them did.

00:45:57.072 --> 00:45:58.713
[Jeff Reed] and were killed by the destroying angel.

00:45:58.793 --> 00:46:00.393
[Jeff Reed] Okay, things got a little graphic.

00:46:01.195 --> 00:46:02.454
[Jeff Reed] Got a little graphic there.

00:46:03.155 --> 00:46:12.360
[Jeff Reed] You got some people that were complaining and through the complaints, evidently they were tagged by the angel of death and quite literally killed as a result of it.

00:46:13.260 --> 00:46:20.523
[Jeff Reed] Now these things happen to them as examples and were written down as warnings to us on whom the fulfillment of the ages has come.

00:46:20.862 --> 00:46:22.063
[Jeff Reed] What are we talking about here?

00:46:22.867 --> 00:46:23.708
[Jeff Reed] This is what's funny.

00:46:24.309 --> 00:46:28.269
[Jeff Reed] We're actually talking about, in context, the manna falling from heaven.

00:46:30.050 --> 00:46:32.012
[Jeff Reed] We look at Numbers 21.

00:46:32.072 --> 00:46:33.771
[Jeff Reed] They sent them out from Mount Hor.

00:46:35.152 --> 00:46:37.273
[Jeff Reed] If I'm Hor, H-O-R, forgive me.

00:46:39.375 --> 00:46:42.958
[Jeff Reed] and along the route to the Red Sea in order to bypass the land of Edom.

00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:44.219
[Jeff Reed] Old Testament here.

00:46:44.659 --> 00:46:48.204
[Jeff Reed] People of God, the Israelites moving away from Egypt.

00:46:48.744 --> 00:46:53.809
[Jeff Reed] But the people grew impatient on the journey and spoke against God and against Moses.

00:46:53.849 --> 00:46:54.829
[Jeff Reed] You know the story.

00:46:56.992 --> 00:47:02.380
[Jeff Reed] Why have you led us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness?

00:47:02.902 --> 00:47:07.889
[Jeff Reed] There is no bread or water, and we detest this wretched food.

00:47:10.128 --> 00:47:12.208
[Jeff Reed] I don't know, like I've eaten Egyptian food.

00:47:13.009 --> 00:47:17.690
[Jeff Reed] I don't know what's better in context than Egyptian food.

00:47:18.710 --> 00:47:20.891
[Jeff Reed] But, you know, people were dying in Egypt.

00:47:21.612 --> 00:47:23.273
[Jeff Reed] And so they're running.

00:47:24.893 --> 00:47:32.456
[Jeff Reed] And quite literally, people are complaining that they're being negative.

00:47:32.657 --> 00:47:35.538
[Jeff Reed] There's complaining about the quality of the food.

00:47:38.094 --> 00:47:39.954
[Jeff Reed] We read this, Numbers 21.5.

00:47:41.175 --> 00:47:46.677
[Jeff Reed] So the Lord sent venomous snakes among the people and many of the Israelites were bitten and died.

00:47:51.139 --> 00:47:57.402
[Jeff Reed] You know, I often wonder what the Old Testament with God would do.

00:47:58.744 --> 00:47:59.963
[Jeff Reed] I know it's the same God.

00:48:00.824 --> 00:48:03.045
[Jeff Reed] He's a little kinder, gentler in 2026 than 6,000 years ago.

00:48:06.885 --> 00:48:14.972
[Jeff Reed] I really wonder how the Old Testament God would reply to the people of today in situations of that.

00:48:16.713 --> 00:48:23.739
[Jeff Reed] Then the people of Moses came to Moses and said, we have sinned by speaking against the Lord and against you.

00:48:24.219 --> 00:48:27.440
[Jeff Reed] Intercede with the Lord so he will take the snakes away from us.

00:48:28.061 --> 00:48:29.342
[Jeff Reed] We're sorry about complaining.

00:48:31.204 --> 00:48:32.304
[Jeff Reed] Help us get rid of the snakes.

00:48:34.074 --> 00:48:39.297
[Jeff Reed] So Moses interceded, and the Lord said to Moses, make a fiery serpent and mount it on a pole.

00:48:40.617 --> 00:48:43.338
[Jeff Reed] When anyone who is bitten looks at it, he will live.

00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:51.702
[Jeff Reed] It's interesting that one of the churches I'm helping with right now is literally teaching this lesson to kids last week, this week, today.

00:48:51.842 --> 00:48:54.063
[Jeff Reed] Today's the last day.

00:48:54.123 --> 00:48:56.764
[Jeff Reed] So Moses made a bronze snake and mounted it on a pole.

00:48:57.025 --> 00:49:01.666
[Jeff Reed] If anyone who is bitten looked at the bronze snake, he would live.

00:49:05.335 --> 00:49:11.338
[Jeff Reed] Philippians 2, 14 to 15, do everything without complaining or arguing so that you may be blameless and pure.

00:49:12.518 --> 00:49:21.342
[Jeff Reed] Children of God without fault in a crooked and perverse generation in which you shine as lights in the world.

00:49:22.583 --> 00:49:23.282
[Jeff Reed] Isn't that it though?

00:49:25.324 --> 00:49:31.867
[Jeff Reed] When we're negative, does that dim the capacity for our light to shine?

00:49:34.766 --> 00:49:44.389
[Jeff Reed] When we're, I mean, listen, I'm just gonna go ahead and say what came to my mind.

00:49:45.929 --> 00:50:04.213
[Jeff Reed] Regardless, if you're an American, regardless of what side you sign with on the political regime, pro or con, any one person or party, does spouting negativity about the other side, does that make your light brighter?

00:50:08.954 --> 00:50:14.719
[Jeff Reed] Is that helping bring people to God?

00:50:21.224 --> 00:50:23.105
[Jeff Reed] Or is that helping to chase people away from it?

00:50:27.829 --> 00:50:28.248
[Jeff Reed] It's hard.

00:50:31.844 --> 00:50:39.527
[Jeff Reed] It's hard to look into the bifurcated nature of 2026, where we live in extremes.

00:50:41.509 --> 00:50:43.730
[Jeff Reed] It's so hard to live life today and not be negative.

00:50:44.510 --> 00:50:44.969
[Jeff Reed] I get it.

00:50:46.331 --> 00:50:47.050
[Jeff Reed] I understand.

00:50:50.371 --> 00:50:54.474
[Jeff Reed] I truly believe that God cannot live in negativeness.

00:50:55.353 --> 00:50:57.175
[Jeff Reed] I do not believe God moves in negativeness.

00:50:59.126 --> 00:51:15.576
[Jeff Reed] I think that if we're really trying to make ourselves as little Christ, little C Christians, little Christians, little Christ, how can we do that with being negative?

00:51:18.898 --> 00:51:21.980
[Jeff Reed] Maybe sin is, or maybe negativity is the sin.

00:51:24.612 --> 00:51:37.800
[Jeff Reed] And for me, if it is, the sin of negativity is the thing that breaks down the armor of God and allows a whole lot worse things to come in.

00:51:39.282 --> 00:51:42.123
[Jeff Reed] Negativity, you know, I'm going to put on my philosophy hat.

00:51:43.233 --> 00:51:45.896
[Jeff Reed] Negativity is a viceless crime, right?

00:51:46.478 --> 00:51:55.672
[Jeff Reed] I mean, like, if I'm negative and I really don't say anything, I'm not gonna affect, like, if I don't voice my negativity, I sit on it.

00:51:57.465 --> 00:51:58.806
[Jeff Reed] I'm not affecting other people.

00:51:58.947 --> 00:52:00.947
[Jeff Reed] I'm not being negative in front of them.

00:52:02.568 --> 00:52:07.411
[Jeff Reed] But the negativity does affect my mindset.

00:52:08.652 --> 00:52:09.652
[Jeff Reed] It affects my psyche.

00:52:09.672 --> 00:52:11.614
[Jeff Reed] It affects my soul.

00:52:12.873 --> 00:52:15.074
[Jeff Reed] It affects my outlook on life.

00:52:16.795 --> 00:52:23.599
[Jeff Reed] And pretty much that pessimism chisels away to my view of God.

00:52:26.561 --> 00:52:28.742
[Jeff Reed] Jeff, you're telling me if you're negative, it can affect your view?

00:52:28.782 --> 00:52:29.123
[Jeff Reed] Yes.

00:52:30.523 --> 00:52:30.963
[Jeff Reed] Guilty.

00:52:33.065 --> 00:52:40.028
[Jeff Reed] In many ways, the negativity that I let in my life, unkept, festered.

00:52:41.469 --> 00:52:42.050
[Jeff Reed] Infected.

00:52:42.690 --> 00:52:43.510
[Jeff Reed] Like a cancer.

00:52:45.871 --> 00:52:46.893
[Jeff Reed] It affected my marriage.

00:52:46.913 --> 00:52:49.253
[Jeff Reed] It affected my ministry.

00:52:50.614 --> 00:52:54.376
[Jeff Reed] It affected my relationship with my wife, my kids, and my God.

00:52:56.893 --> 00:53:04.054
[Jeff Reed] And as somebody who has had that negativity in his life, I need to cut it out.

00:53:06.074 --> 00:53:07.054
[Jeff Reed] But it's interesting.

00:53:08.454 --> 00:53:11.335
[Jeff Reed] You can't just stop negative thoughts.

00:53:12.635 --> 00:53:13.195
[Jeff Reed] You can't.

00:53:14.436 --> 00:53:14.976
[Jeff Reed] I've tried.

00:53:16.436 --> 00:53:20.356
[Jeff Reed] You've got to put something in its place.

00:53:22.557 --> 00:53:23.597
[Jeff Reed] The negativity...

00:53:24.739 --> 00:53:25.760
[Jeff Reed] left to itself.

00:53:25.940 --> 00:53:27.523
[Jeff Reed] I mean, I said it was a cancer, right?

00:53:28.244 --> 00:53:38.003
[Jeff Reed] And so, quite literally, you need an operation where you cut the negativity out and you remove it like the cancer lump that it is, which leaves a void.

00:53:40.346 --> 00:53:44.268
[Jeff Reed] This is not going to be, it's a God-sized whole kind of cheesy moment.

00:53:44.367 --> 00:53:46.268
[Jeff Reed] I'm not going to do that.

00:53:46.909 --> 00:53:49.331
[Jeff Reed] But I do want to encourage us to look at Scripture.

00:53:49.771 --> 00:53:53.833
[Jeff Reed] Okay, what is Scripture saying in this moment?

00:53:53.873 --> 00:53:54.893
[Jeff Reed] Let's look at two things.

00:53:55.974 --> 00:53:57.614
[Jeff Reed] Let's look at Philippians 4.

00:53:58.034 --> 00:53:59.195
[Jeff Reed] Be anxious about nothing.

00:54:00.056 --> 00:54:01.197
[Jeff Reed] Be anxious about nothing.

00:54:02.306 --> 00:54:07.327
[Jeff Reed] But in everything with prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, prevent your requests to God.

00:54:07.967 --> 00:54:15.190
[Jeff Reed] And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus.

00:54:16.929 --> 00:54:24.211
[Jeff Reed] And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

00:54:25.552 --> 00:54:28.273
[Jeff Reed] So the peace of God is what we need.

00:54:29.967 --> 00:54:31.568
[Jeff Reed] to protect our hearts and minds.

00:54:33.108 --> 00:54:34.188
[Jeff Reed] How do we get the peace of God?

00:54:36.190 --> 00:54:38.670
[Jeff Reed] But in everything by prayer and petition with thanksgiving.

00:54:39.911 --> 00:54:41.891
[Jeff Reed] What's the exact opposite of negativity?

00:54:45.552 --> 00:54:47.494
[Jeff Reed] Prayer, petition, with thanksgiving.

00:54:53.815 --> 00:54:56.137
[Jeff Reed] God, thank you for me getting fired a month ago.

00:54:59.074 --> 00:55:06.117
[Jeff Reed] God, I know I can't really walk real well and I still don't have feeling like below my knees.

00:55:06.577 --> 00:55:13.318
[Jeff Reed] And God, I know that I have trouble sleeping at night because of the pain.

00:55:14.840 --> 00:55:16.300
[Jeff Reed] But God, thank you, I still have legs.

00:55:17.561 --> 00:55:20.541
[Jeff Reed] Like, is that Thanksgiving?

00:55:22.402 --> 00:55:25.483
[Jeff Reed] God, thank you, I still have legs and they haven't had to cut them off.

00:55:27.505 --> 00:55:49.349
[Jeff Reed] God, I know I need, like, I think I need coffee and caffeine, and I'm borderline addicted to this stuff, and everything that I enjoy as a foodie, all the stuff that I enjoy is now gone, and, like, I'm miserable emotionally, but thank you my family is still with me.

00:55:54.510 --> 00:55:56.371
[Jeff Reed] God, I know that I'm a crackpot.

00:55:57.257 --> 00:56:03.019
[Jeff Reed] probably with the majority of pastors who know me.

00:56:03.039 --> 00:56:07.121
[Jeff Reed] And even my own church doesn't know what to do with me.

00:56:10.143 --> 00:56:17.327
[Jeff Reed] But thank you that I get to be the light in other people's lives who have a similar calling to mine.

00:56:20.989 --> 00:56:23.110
[Jeff Reed] How do we find God in these situations?

00:56:25.632 --> 00:56:26.331
[Jeff Reed] Simply put,

00:56:27.784 --> 00:56:28.583
[Jeff Reed] Don't be anxious.

00:56:31.704 --> 00:56:33.485
[Jeff Reed] I can't feel my feet.

00:56:34.246 --> 00:56:46.250
[Jeff Reed] I have an enormous amount of pain on a regular basis, and the medication puts me into drunken stupors, drug stupors, I should say, drug stupors and knocks me out.

00:56:49.210 --> 00:56:53.431
[Jeff Reed] It has changed who I am emotionally and mentally.

00:56:56.356 --> 00:57:03.039
[Jeff Reed] But I get to do, I get to be, I get to show Christ to others.

00:57:04.579 --> 00:57:05.400
[Jeff Reed] God, thank you.

00:57:10.523 --> 00:57:13.244
[Jeff Reed] Finally, brothers, looking at Philippians 4, continuing on.

00:57:13.563 --> 00:57:21.728
[Jeff Reed] Finally, brothers, whatever is true, honorable, right, pure, think on these things.

00:57:23.509 --> 00:57:25.650
[Jeff Reed] Excuse me, all my allergies are kicking in.

00:57:33.373 --> 00:57:34.835
[Jeff Reed] My kids mock me when I sneeze.

00:57:35.994 --> 00:57:38.056
[Jeff Reed] I do have a mute button, but I couldn't reach it.

00:57:42.099 --> 00:57:44.800
[Jeff Reed] My son clocks my sneezes at 112 dB.

00:57:48.583 --> 00:57:49.483
[Jeff Reed] It's the loudest sneezes.

00:57:50.903 --> 00:57:53.485
[Jeff Reed] People often tell me, Jeff, you're the loudest person I've ever met.

00:57:53.985 --> 00:57:54.346
[Jeff Reed] It's true.

00:57:56.844 --> 00:57:59.246
[Jeff Reed] I can casually talk without yelling.

00:57:59.646 --> 00:58:01.425
[Jeff Reed] I can casually talk about 100 dB.

00:58:02.306 --> 00:58:04.907
[Jeff Reed] And so my sneezes, if I really let go, forget about it.

00:58:06.568 --> 00:58:17.391
[Jeff Reed] Finally, brothers, whatever is true, honorable, right, pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think of these things.

00:58:20.112 --> 00:58:21.932
[Jeff Reed] For those of you that are trying to be a bridge,

00:58:23.255 --> 00:58:25.039
[Jeff Reed] to help others reconcile.

00:58:27.567 --> 00:58:29.010
[Jeff Reed] We can't envelop that.

00:58:29.050 --> 00:58:30.233
[Jeff Reed] We can't internalize it.

00:58:31.878 --> 00:58:39.782
[Jeff Reed] If you're exposed to negativity through ministry, I mean, here's the put the life vest on yourself before you put it on others verse.

00:58:40.864 --> 00:58:45.467
[Jeff Reed] You got to save yourself so that you're stable and can help.

00:58:46.467 --> 00:58:50.989
[Jeff Reed] You've got to be thinking true, honorable, right, pure, lovely.

00:58:51.010 --> 00:58:54.853
[Jeff Reed] You got to be grounded in those things or else you will succumb.

00:58:58.108 --> 00:59:04.690
[Jeff Reed] Romans 12.2, don't be conformed to the patterns of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.

00:59:05.791 --> 00:59:12.632
[Jeff Reed] Then you will be able to test and approve what the good, pleasing, and perfect will of God is.

00:59:13.132 --> 00:59:17.914
[Jeff Reed] This is a different translation, so I had to look at the screen for that one, but I was memorizing it in my head.

00:59:17.974 --> 00:59:20.554
[Jeff Reed] Don't be conformed, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.

00:59:21.927 --> 00:59:30.338
[Jeff Reed] That renewing of the mind by keeping the negativity out, by the way, is how you're able to tell what is good, pleasing to God.

00:59:30.659 --> 00:59:41.851
[Jeff Reed] It's how you're able to sense the will of God by not being negative, by being able to separate yourself from the negativity and allowing God to speak through that.

00:59:46.461 --> 00:59:47.282
[Jeff Reed] It's interesting.

00:59:47.403 --> 00:59:48.925
[Jeff Reed] Yeah, I mean, I'll go ahead and say this one.

00:59:49.206 --> 00:59:50.367
[Jeff Reed] Hebrews 10, 24.

00:59:51.009 --> 00:59:56.996
[Jeff Reed] As digital ministry, we should know this one, 24, 25, and let us consider how to spur one another on to love and good deeds.

00:59:57.358 --> 01:00:00.362
[Jeff Reed] Let us not neglect meeting together, as some have been in the habit of doing.

01:00:02.706 --> 01:00:06.668
[Jeff Reed] but to let us encourage one another and all the more as you see the day approaching.

01:00:07.510 --> 01:00:17.556
[Jeff Reed] You know, a lot of pastors would use that, would quote that scripture to us as the reason that we should not be doing digital mission work and that we should not be doing digital discipleship.

01:00:19.487 --> 01:00:21.429
[Jeff Reed] for a lot of me, I still don't see that in the Scripture.

01:00:22.289 --> 01:00:37.994
[Jeff Reed] But what I do see is the opportunity to spur one another on, and the challenge to do that digitally, to use these communications channels, to use these digital communities as a way to spur one another on.

01:00:39.215 --> 01:00:55.389
[Jeff Reed] and to make habits of encouraging one another in these spaces, and to not give up as we see the day approaching, Hebrews 10, 24, and 25.

01:00:58.132 --> 01:00:59.793
[Jeff Reed] And this one I'll end on for today.

01:01:00.853 --> 01:01:01.695
[Jeff Reed] Proverbs 15, 1 says,

01:01:05.762 --> 01:01:09.206
[Jeff Reed] Oh my gosh, what's going on with my nose today?

01:01:09.365 --> 01:01:12.307
[Jeff Reed] I'm not having a good allergy day.

01:01:15.010 --> 01:01:17.771
[Jeff Reed] Proverbs 15.1, a gentle answer turneth away wrath.

01:01:19.213 --> 01:01:21.014
[Jeff Reed] Mean words, harsh words stir up anger.

01:01:28.139 --> 01:01:28.619
[Jeff Reed] It's hard.

01:01:29.681 --> 01:01:30.161
[Jeff Reed] I struggle.

01:01:30.661 --> 01:01:32.282
[Jeff Reed] Because like I said, negativity on the mirror.

01:01:33.322 --> 01:01:34.061
[Jeff Reed] I'll bounce that back.

01:01:34.121 --> 01:01:35.041
[Jeff Reed] I'm rubber, you're glue.

01:01:35.583 --> 01:01:38.402
[Jeff Reed] Whatever you send to me bounces off me and goes right back to you.

01:01:42.864 --> 01:01:43.403
[Jeff Reed] I do that.

01:01:44.405 --> 01:01:46.625
[Jeff Reed] If we're positive, I'm positive.

01:01:47.465 --> 01:01:54.706
[Jeff Reed] If we're negative, it's very easy for me to replicate that anger and to show it back.

01:01:56.389 --> 01:02:11.699
[Jeff Reed] I am not good at the Christ-centered way of bouncing, of not bouncing, of showing Jesus, of being that gentle in that.

01:02:12.780 --> 01:02:17.905
[Jeff Reed] I've learned over the years, it's funny, trolling I can handle.

01:02:18.764 --> 01:02:22.827
[Jeff Reed] Like, you know, something asynchronous or something online, I can be gentle.

01:02:25.702 --> 01:02:45.431
[Jeff Reed] When somebody says something to me, like in a physical environment, oh, I don't wanna be like I'm a different person, but I'm much more likely to respond in anger in a physical conversation, in a face-to-face physical, like breathing the same air molecules conversation than I am online.

01:02:45.771 --> 01:02:49.012
[Jeff Reed] Online, I tend to be much more patient, a lot more calm.

01:02:49.753 --> 01:02:54.335
[Jeff Reed] I've learned over the years, like you gotta step away in separation.

01:02:54.954 --> 01:03:01.900
[Jeff Reed] And online allows for that separation, which allows for level-headedness with me for the most part.

01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:02.800
[Jeff Reed] I know it's interesting.

01:03:02.820 --> 01:03:03.940
[Jeff Reed] Most people are probably the other way.

01:03:04.541 --> 01:03:06.943
[Jeff Reed] Online, they're more likely to go on the attack.

01:03:07.523 --> 01:03:09.704
[Jeff Reed] But I've learned to kind of separate from that.

01:03:12.766 --> 01:03:14.047
[Jeff Reed] I struggle.

01:03:14.507 --> 01:03:15.568
[Jeff Reed] I struggle with doing that.

01:03:16.789 --> 01:03:25.311
[Jeff Reed] And so, man, I would encourage you, pray for me as I'm going through this season, this stretch.

01:03:26.431 --> 01:03:29.213
[Jeff Reed] And I would invite you.

01:03:29.893 --> 01:03:35.853
[Jeff Reed] Listen, we talk about this and more in these scattered Bible studies.

01:03:35.974 --> 01:03:36.954
[Jeff Reed] If you are not...

01:03:37.934 --> 01:03:59.360
[Jeff Reed] doing scattered with us i invite you to do that you can sign up at the church.digital scattered more information is on there uh if you want to like even lead the bible study we'll be producing a leader's guide right now the church digital moving forward we're going to create we're going to always have i think one of these in the hopper scattered we're going to do

01:03:59.920 --> 01:04:02.141
[Jeff Reed] through the end of the year, January.

01:04:02.262 --> 01:04:10.188
[Jeff Reed] I think Leighton's talking about starting up Acts, and we'll probably start to talk with some others as well about doing some other online studies.

01:04:10.608 --> 01:04:22.898
[Jeff Reed] And so, listen, would love to help amplify, help get you connected to God, help encourage you through Scripture.

01:04:24.539 --> 01:04:34.362
[Jeff Reed] A lot of the bluntness that you're hearing from me, a lot of the transparency, I'll be honest, that's the church digital moving forward.

01:04:34.501 --> 01:04:37.161
[Jeff Reed] I don't know how to do it any other way.

01:04:37.762 --> 01:04:50.525
[Jeff Reed] And as I look at Leighton, as I look at Stacey, at Jason, at Anesh, at Ian, at the leadership we currently have, that's who we want to be.

01:04:51.585 --> 01:04:58.416
[Jeff Reed] people who are broken, and even though we're broken, we're finding God and waiting for Him to reshape us.

01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:03.123
[Jeff Reed] And for me specifically, without negativity.

01:05:05.059 --> 01:05:17.083
[Jeff Reed] If that's the one thing I've got to fix, if that's the one thing God's going to help me fix, if that's the one thing I'm going to ask God to fix me on in 2026, it's that right there.

01:05:18.065 --> 01:05:23.806
[Jeff Reed] Help me cut the negativity cancer out of my life.

01:05:24.782 --> 01:05:37.992
[Jeff Reed] and allow me to find you, to find joy, to find thankfulness instead, and to fill my heart, my mind with it.

01:05:38.793 --> 01:05:45.838
[Jeff Reed] In many ways, I'm not the guy at age 50 who's going to be like, well, it all goes back to my parents.

01:05:46.358 --> 01:05:48.880
[Jeff Reed] But the reality is, that's how I was raised.

01:05:50.304 --> 01:05:56.715
[Jeff Reed] And so I've got 50 years of this pre-programming crap, and that's hard.

01:05:57.657 --> 01:06:00.320
[Jeff Reed] It's going to take more than a scalpel to cut that cancer out.

01:06:01.443 --> 01:06:07.284
[Jeff Reed] And prayerfully through God, we'll figure out how to get there.

01:06:07.563 --> 01:06:09.003
[Jeff Reed] So you can pray for me on that.

01:06:09.824 --> 01:06:18.005
[Jeff Reed] I just realized as I was like two ways through that, I totally closed the window that had all of the comments that were going in.

01:06:18.085 --> 01:06:22.447
[Jeff Reed] Oh my gosh, it looks like it was a really active conversation.

01:06:22.467 --> 01:06:24.887
[Jeff Reed] So I'm sorry for ignoring everybody on here.

01:06:27.688 --> 01:06:28.527
[Jeff Reed] That's awesome.

01:06:31.141 --> 01:06:32.922
[Jeff Reed] I was totally going to read it, but I'm not.

01:06:33.182 --> 01:06:40.465
[Jeff Reed] What I will do is we're going to, I would say, go back and look at the chat as you're watching on demand.

01:06:40.704 --> 01:06:49.648
[Jeff Reed] I can, I also, I can, we built it into the Church Digital website, so the chat's on there as well and going up in real time.

01:06:49.668 --> 01:06:55.449
[Jeff Reed] So as you're watching, even on the Church Digital website, the chat can be timed and it will be on the screen.

01:06:56.230 --> 01:07:10.851
[Jeff Reed] engage in the chat um you know lexi it's it's great to see you again my friend mr pete methos flat cap i think's around um salvatore marines i don't think i know you my friend

01:07:11.851 --> 01:07:12.751
[Jeff Reed] Thanks for coming on.

01:07:15.253 --> 01:07:16.074
[Jeff Reed] It's interesting.

01:07:16.213 --> 01:07:16.653
[Jeff Reed] Amplify.

01:07:16.673 --> 01:07:19.275
[Jeff Reed] You don't hear a lot of Amplified Bible in 2026.

01:07:20.954 --> 01:07:24.235
[Jeff Reed] So I'm always good for an Amplify reference on that.

01:07:24.635 --> 01:07:29.797
[Jeff Reed] By the way, Lexi, you can totally have Grumbling is Like Marijuana.

01:07:31.032 --> 01:07:32.574
[Jeff Reed] That is my gift to you.

01:07:33.195 --> 01:07:37.458
[Jeff Reed] Please, please never give me credit for that quote.

01:07:37.597 --> 01:07:45.023
[Jeff Reed] I would greatly appreciate not having my name next to grumbling is like marijuana.

01:07:47.045 --> 01:07:58.313
[Jeff Reed] Now with this being said, the AI that does a lot of our social media graphics is totally going to analyze this and it's going to hear me say grumbling is like marijuana five or six times.

01:07:58.353 --> 01:07:59.054
[Jeff Reed] So of course...

01:07:59.875 --> 01:08:04.217
[Jeff Reed] the social media graphic is going to say, grumbling is like marijuana, Jeff Reed.

01:08:04.956 --> 01:08:08.418
[Jeff Reed] And so that'll be hitting a social media feed near you, I'm sure.

01:08:10.079 --> 01:08:19.921
[Jeff Reed] But look, we're just a bunch of broken people here who are trying to find and do the will of God and to help others do the same.

01:08:21.782 --> 01:08:22.863
[Jeff Reed] And I hope you'll join us on that.

01:08:24.863 --> 01:08:26.144
[Jeff Reed] And I am...

01:08:27.963 --> 01:08:30.827
[Jeff Reed] Yeah, it's now the most important moment of this stream.

01:08:31.006 --> 01:08:31.327
[Jeff Reed] Thank you.

01:08:37.052 --> 01:08:38.213
[Jeff Reed] And with that, we're going to land.

01:08:39.194 --> 01:08:39.675
[Jeff Reed] Hey, everybody.

01:08:39.694 --> 01:08:40.435
[Jeff Reed] It's been great.

01:08:40.836 --> 01:08:43.278
[Jeff Reed] Check out the church.digital.scattered next week.

01:08:46.902 --> 01:08:47.481
[Jeff Reed] Next week.

01:08:48.422 --> 01:08:49.463
[Jeff Reed] That's what we're doing next week.

01:08:51.886 --> 01:08:52.247
[Jeff Reed] Hold on.

01:08:52.567 --> 01:08:53.307
[Jeff Reed] I'm coming back.

01:08:59.068 --> 01:09:01.208
[Jeff Reed] It was under this book, this really heavy book.

01:09:02.550 --> 01:09:03.610
[Jeff Reed] That's why I couldn't get it easy.

01:09:04.610 --> 01:09:12.536
[Jeff Reed] Next week, we're bringing in this guy, Stephen Lowe, who's a professor of digital ministry over at Liberty University.

01:09:13.015 --> 01:09:21.581
[Jeff Reed] He's written, this is not his first book, I think this is his second or third book, but Biblical Foundations for Ecology of Digital Ministry.

01:09:22.680 --> 01:09:34.470
[Jeff Reed] And so another book written on digital missionary, Dr. Lowe, Professor Lowe, he and his wife Mary, no strangers to the church digital.

01:09:34.490 --> 01:09:35.931
[Jeff Reed] They've been on several times before.

01:09:36.792 --> 01:09:47.761
[Jeff Reed] Very outspoken towards digital missionary in the digital missions, digital missionary, digital ministry in academia circles.

01:09:48.842 --> 01:09:49.484
[Jeff Reed] I'm so excited.

01:09:49.503 --> 01:09:54.347
[Jeff Reed] The book actually comes out, I think, a week from yesterday or a week from, by next week.

01:09:54.688 --> 01:09:56.748
[Jeff Reed] I think day two comes out next week.

01:09:57.350 --> 01:09:59.872
[Jeff Reed] So, okay, tomorrow is now Layton's telling me.

01:09:59.891 --> 01:10:01.073
[Jeff Reed] It comes out actually tomorrow.

01:10:01.632 --> 01:10:01.974
[Jeff Reed] Yay.

01:10:02.654 --> 01:10:05.896
[Jeff Reed] And so we're having Dr. Low on the stream next week.

01:10:06.377 --> 01:10:06.917
[Jeff Reed] Come on.

01:10:07.118 --> 01:10:08.458
[Jeff Reed] It'd be a great conversation.

01:10:08.498 --> 01:10:09.380
[Jeff Reed] Excited about that.

01:10:09.899 --> 01:10:10.520
[Jeff Reed] It's weird.

01:10:10.801 --> 01:10:15.744
[Jeff Reed] I've actually, I've had a lot of conversations with Liberty University students lately.

01:10:15.904 --> 01:10:17.947
[Jeff Reed] I can think of at least two or three within the past year.

01:10:19.127 --> 01:10:22.310
[Jeff Reed] who are coming out of Liberty excited about digital ministry.

01:10:22.371 --> 01:10:23.813
[Jeff Reed] And I've actually, I've been negative.

01:10:24.453 --> 01:10:35.345
[Jeff Reed] I've been critical about Liberty University, about university and seminaries in general, not really emphasizing digital ministry and not understanding digital ministry.

01:10:37.266 --> 01:10:47.373
[Jeff Reed] thanks to some of the efforts by Dr. Lowe, as well as Sam, who we had on a couple weeks, the academia world is starting to pivot a little bit.

01:10:47.673 --> 01:10:51.436
[Jeff Reed] And it's really exciting to me and being positive.

01:10:52.096 --> 01:10:55.920
[Jeff Reed] It's exciting to me to start to see the fruit of that starting to now expand.

01:10:56.199 --> 01:10:58.862
[Jeff Reed] And so, come on, let's talk to Dr. Lowe.

01:10:58.881 --> 01:11:02.323
[Jeff Reed] It'll be Wednesday, 2 p.m. Eastern, same time next week.

01:11:02.423 --> 01:11:05.867
[Jeff Reed] And then we'll also have the Bible study.

01:11:05.947 --> 01:11:07.627
[Jeff Reed] We'll be back on Tuesday.

01:11:07.728 --> 01:11:10.310
[Jeff Reed] Tomorrow, I know I'm doing a stream.

01:11:10.350 --> 01:11:11.590
[Jeff Reed] We're doing the Bible study.

01:11:12.091 --> 01:11:14.511
[Jeff Reed] Flatcap, I know you're on as well right now in chat.

01:11:14.572 --> 01:11:14.953
[Jeff Reed] You're...

01:11:15.733 --> 01:11:19.613
[Jeff Reed] doing a stream recording on Twitch tonight or tomorrow night.

01:11:20.694 --> 01:11:22.594
[Jeff Reed] I vaguely remember seeing that on the schedule.

01:11:23.694 --> 01:11:31.595
[Jeff Reed] I know YouTube's about 15 seconds delayed, so I'll probably see it in 10, nine, eight, seven, six, five.

01:11:32.015 --> 01:11:42.658
[Jeff Reed] I tell you what, you can go to the church.digital slash events, the church.digital slash events, and that's kept up where it'll show you all the schedule of all of our live streams and things like that.

01:11:43.037 --> 01:11:43.738
[Jeff Reed] I'll say it this way.

01:11:45.112 --> 01:11:51.296
[Jeff Reed] We're getting ready to onboard three or four more content creators into the church digital.

01:11:52.237 --> 01:11:53.238
[Jeff Reed] I'll give you a tease.

01:11:54.378 --> 01:11:56.140
[Jeff Reed] Somebody says to me, Methos, was it you?

01:11:57.081 --> 01:11:58.082
[Jeff Reed] No, it was not Methos.

01:11:58.721 --> 01:12:03.105
[Jeff Reed] Somebody says to me, they said, Jeff, I meant to lead with this today and I forgot.

01:12:03.565 --> 01:12:05.847
[Jeff Reed] Somebody said to me, Jeff, you guys are creating too much content.

01:12:06.328 --> 01:12:13.253
[Jeff Reed] Like it was one of these days where Leighton and I did a podcast recording back to back and this guy was trying to keep up with both.

01:12:13.993 --> 01:12:18.738
[Jeff Reed] He was trying to listen to both episodes and was complaining because he didn't have time.

01:12:19.399 --> 01:12:20.619
[Jeff Reed] He didn't have time to listen to both.

01:12:21.381 --> 01:12:28.908
[Jeff Reed] And so where we're going, we're going to be creating so much content globally, you're not going to be able to keep up trying to listen to everything.

01:12:29.068 --> 01:12:30.329
[Jeff Reed] And we're not even going to try.

01:12:31.270 --> 01:12:32.371
[Jeff Reed] We're not going to do...

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[Jeff Reed] what the MCU does where it's like, hey, you know, we're just, we're not gonna create content because you all can't keep up.

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[Jeff Reed] We're not doing that.

01:12:41.274 --> 01:12:43.716
[Jeff Reed] Instead, yeah, flat caps got a stream today.

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[Jeff Reed] You can check the church.digital slash events to keep up with that schedule.

01:12:49.438 --> 01:12:51.797
[Jeff Reed] So what we did, I'm excited about this.

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[Jeff Reed] We released a podcast.

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[Jeff Reed] You can find it by searching for a TCD and it's called You Talk Too Much.

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[Jeff Reed] And so based off of a conversation, I really wish I remember who I was talking with that was not complaining, but was like, how am I supposed to keep up?

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[Jeff Reed] What we've done is we've created a 20-minute cut of every podcast, every stream that we'll do.

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[Jeff Reed] All of Leighton's streams, a 20-minute cut.

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[Jeff Reed] A 20-minute of this stream and every stream that we do, 20-minute cut.

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[Jeff Reed] The Bible studies, a 20-minute cut.

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[Jeff Reed] And any of the future content, DeMarcus's, we'll do a 20-minute cut, everything.

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[Jeff Reed] It's 20-minute.

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[Jeff Reed] That's a commute.

01:13:40.806 --> 01:13:42.167
[Jeff Reed] For the average person, 20 minutes.

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[Jeff Reed] And so if you can listen to us in your car on a commute, you can keep up.

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[Jeff Reed] Because it's true, we talk too much.

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[Jeff Reed] And so you can find the podcast Apple and Spotify on the church, just search for TCD, you talk too much.

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[Jeff Reed] And that'll help you get there.

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[Jeff Reed] I'm pretty sure you talk too much as a show on the website.

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[Jeff Reed] If not, it'll probably be a show on the website within the next 24 hours.

01:14:08.193 --> 01:14:08.412
[Jeff Reed] All right.

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[Jeff Reed] But hey, we're going to wrap up.

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[Jeff Reed] I should have opened with that, but thanks for it.

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[Jeff Reed] Thanks for hanging out and appreciate you all.

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[Jeff Reed] We'll see you next week with Dr.

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[Jeff Reed] Lo.

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[Jeff Reed] Y'all have a good one.

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[Jeff Reed] Bye.

